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Akuma from the Street Fighter series takes on Two-Time Hall of Fame winner Kratos from God of War.
This fight starts off near the Grand Canyon.
Both of these characters have monstrous strength, but who would win in a fight?
Suggested by EnigmaJ
Akuma from the Street Fighter series takes on Two-Time Hall of Fame winner Kratos from God of War.
This fight starts off near the Grand Canyon.
Both of these characters have monstrous strength, but who would win in a fight?
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Odd, I had this idea in mind a long time ago. Huh
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Anyways Akuma can karate chop an island and split Ayers Rock in half with a kick, create tidal wvaves with his attacks (although I know little about this in detail) as well as survive at the bottom of the ocean for a long time
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Oh and some technique that can destroy the targets soul with a single punch as well as intangibility/flight
“create tidal waves”
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Stupid typos
Tis is probably going to be my only post on this thread, but I think Kratos wins. Also, mrgendrons is probably going to come and say that Kratos can lift billions of tons so he stomps.
no matter how much i love squantos (kratos), akuma is to powerful for him to even compete
Just listing feats for Akuma
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=z52ZuLMW-Yc&feature=player_detailpage#t=297s
Akuma does this…..
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTZ82NG63uM&feature=player_detailpage#t=6s
Raging Demon
Kills you because of your past sins.
And attacks your soul if you look at his battle against Gouki as well(but he survived by emptying his soul).
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tux_9KaTMfQ
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Stealth already mention this but Akuma sinks an island.
Another Kratos match is exactly what we needed. I don’t know Akuma, but he looks interesting.
“And attacks your soul if you look at his battle against Gouki as well(but he survived by emptying his soul).”
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I did refer to the soul destroying attack earlier, thanks for clearing that up
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And seeing as Akuma’s attack does more damage dependent on the sins the person committed, which Kratos has committed alot, yeah
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I think Akuma has a good chance
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inb4 gendrons Mach 500 Kratos, Class 100000000000 strength and continent+ durability trololo
Akuma has a soul destroying technique, but even without that one shotted what looked like a military ship. Also, Ayers rock feat, island destroying feat from alpha 2, teleportation, energy blasts and waves that seem to be on MOAB levels of destruction. Surviving deep sea pressure.
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I’m siding with Akuma. The stuff I’ve heard from other Kratos threads doesn’t seem like he’s quite on this guys level. And Kratos has commuted lots and lots of sins.
Committed*
“energy blasts and waves that seem to be on MOAB levels of destruction”
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Which put Akuma’s energy blasts at city block+ levels. IIRC Kratos best feat in regards to resisting energy based attacks was that precursor to an eruption, which was claced in Kratos vs Dresden to be in the building+ level DC range (0.05 ish tons)
Didn’t Shin Akuma destroy an asteroid in one of his ending or was that just really good fan art I was looking at?
I did find this for Akuma, of him one shotting a meteor in motion. Although idk if its canon or not
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media.animevice.com/uploads/1/12234/331993-akumameteor_super.jpg
“Didn’t Shin Akuma destroy an asteroid in one of his ending or was that just really good fan art I was looking at?”
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Capcom Fighting Evolution?
fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/tongaridan//capcom_fighting_jam_endings/large/fighting_evolution__akuma_by_udoncrew.jpg?v=133200
Non-Canon since it’s a cross over with Darkstalkers and Red Earth. It’s from Capcom Fighting Evolution
Though maybe it’s plausible?
I mean, Shin Akuma is just Akuma, only stronger?
Wouldn’t that still make it canon as its an official Capcom game art? I mean its not like its fanart or something. The guys at Capcom, the creators felt that Akuma is within his power to do this and put it in their game.
“Wouldn’t that still make it canon as its an official Capcom game art? I mean its not like its fanart or something. The guys at Capcom, the creators felt that Akuma is within his power to do this and put it in their game.”
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…I would kinda argue against that.
Sure that could be true in some cases but the example of the art is only official art for a non-canon game
I feel so bad for the grand canyon right now.
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“…I would kinda argue against that.
Sure that could be true in some cases but the example of the art is only official art for a non-canon game”
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If it’s from capcom it doesn’t matter whether the event actually happened in Street Fighter canon. Capcom still had him do it.
“If it’s from capcom it doesn’t matter whether the event actually happened in Street Fighter canon. Capcom still had him do it.”
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….Asura’s Wrath…would count?
@Alpha or Omega:
“Raging Demon
Kills you because of your past sins.
And attacks your soul if you look at his battle against Gouki as well(but he survived by emptying his soul).”
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Hey, my sins were absolved during Yom Kippur. I am immune! Oh, and Jesus is, too.
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I’m curious. People use the Greek definition of the soul, and that’s what this attack has in mind. So what if you’re from a universe where the soul is just another word for “life” or “person” or “self”? In other words, you don’t have a soul, you are a soul.
All right, scrutinizing time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z52ZuLMW-Yc&feature=player_detailpage#t=297s
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It looks like an atomic bomb, but once everything is cleared out, trees about maybe 100 or 150 meters still seem to be intact.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTZ82NG63uM&feature=player_detailpage#t=6s
Raging Demon
Kills you because of your past sins.
And attacks your soul if you look at his battle against Gouki as well(but he survived by emptying his soul).
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It may be a powerful move, but it looks slow.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tux_9KaTMfQ
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It doesn’t say how long Akuma was underwater, let alone how deep he was.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TtwRoLbOAo&feature=player_detailpage#t=29s
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How does this island sink? Does it sink because Akuma lost? Does Akuma do something to it? It’s Akuma Island, so does it have some connection to him, and that’s the reason it sank?
I’m guessing that the attack destroys your ‘essence/soul/ki/life force’ based on how many ‘sins’ you have. Ultimately I think the intent is understood.
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Not a lot of people coming out for Kratos on this one.
“I’m curious. People use the Greek definition of the soul, and that’s what this attack has in mind. So what if you’re from a universe where the soul is just another word for “life” or “person” or “self”? In other words, you don’t have a soul, you are a soul.”
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I have no idea.
I’m not sure if there’s anyone in the SF universe who’s souls follows that definition.
The Asura’s Wrath thing is super non canon. Akuma can not go head to head with Asura at all.
@Tech/Mana:
“Not a lot of people coming out for Kratos on this one.”
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I’m for neither. Kratos has been scrutinized enough, so I think it’s best to see what Akuma can do and see if the interpretations concerning him hold up to scrutiny.
Akuma is one of those lore characters. As in if you go by the games lore he’s this unstoppable killing machine who’s basically god. Also about the soul thing because in the Megaman series or at least in the X/Zero series they kind of have souls…. I think it’s hard to tell. So would the Raging Demon work on them. Considering Omega Zero can use the Raging Demon.
Well, when speaking of souls, people usually have the definition Oxford Dictionary provides: “the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal”. Of course, not all people consider the spirit and soul as one and the same. I think “ethereal” would have been better than “spiritual”.
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In any case, Kratos has a soul, which can be stripped away in the GoW series. So Akuma’s Raging Demon should probably work if he gets hold of Kratos. It just seems so slow, though.
“….Asura’s Wrath…would count?”
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Akuma out right SAYS something like “It’s always fun to kill a god” in Marvel vs Capcom 3 when facing Thor as well as Amaterasu I think. No one even touches him in Street Fighter canon, with only the absolute masters in the world of their art, such as Gen, being able to match him skill wise. He’s still vastly stronger and has continued training as time has gone on. I’m pretty sure Capcom is making it clear that Akuma is super B.A. He’s considered a match for Rugal, and the God of Fighting in other cross overs. The guy sinks entire islands with ONE punch, and meditates in the most extremely hostile environments available.. and you’re questioning what he does in Asura’s Wrath? Islands. One Punch. He was in his holding back state, normal akuma state.
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www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sf3-2aku.htm
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At Ayer’s Rock he uses the mountain splitting punch technique, note the word technique. This is not a strength feat, this is a skill feat. He saw the weak point in the structure of the rock, and struck it, while strength is clearly required this is more of a perception and precision feat. He has perfect understanding of how to deliver a strike which will split his target, breaking it completely, even if his strength might otherwise not normally be able to do such. He did this while in his normal, holding back state.
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www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sf3-3aku.htm
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Akuma’s Hurricane Kick’s whirl wind was strong enough to lift an entire ship out of the ocean from 150 meters down, and then he SHATTERED it with a single kick. Again, he’s not even in his Shin Akuma state.
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www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/d/sfa2aku.htm
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That above is his ending from SFA2, implying he’s not really limited to remaining here, but our world possesses fighters capable enough that he believes he may finally find the fight he seeks, the one that could kill him.
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www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sfa2ryu.htm
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And just in case you wanted the picture, again, normal Akuma sinking the island, not Shin Akuma, and sure as hell not Oni. As far as Street Fighter canon is concerned I don’t know if Akuma has ever actually NOT held back.
So Akuma has an attack that works similar to Ghost Rider’s Penance Stare……lets see how many innocents has Kratos slaughtered on his quest to kill the gods cause they didn’t let him forget his sins of killing his wife and child and slaughtering thousands of innocents before that……..if Akuma lands that attack Kratos is so fucked over even the most insane version of Joker wouldn’t laugh at it.
Well I’m not sure how fast he is but here is a video of him doing the raging demon. Kratos could probably hit him.
Oh, I didn’t see that part in the video where he strikes Akuma Island.
“At Ayer’s Rock he uses the mountain splitting punch technique, note the word technique. This is not a strength feat, this is a skill feat. He saw the weak point in the structure of the rock, and struck it, while strength is clearly required this is more of a perception and precision feat. He has perfect understanding of how to deliver a strike which will split his target, breaking it completely, even if his strength might otherwise not normally be able to do such. He did this while in his normal, holding back state.”
So he’s Mace Windu with the shatterpoint ability? jk. But that is an impressive feat on multiple levels
Game mechanics. He’s also got some invinciblity on the start up, which is why its used as a counter and anti-air move. Also, lots of attacks cancel into that, so he can throw a punch and fake into it, and by the time you realize it, its too late. But as far as I know we don’t do game mechanics for feats, so I dont know what the actual speed would be for that technique.
@Sauroposeidon
You can’t use crossover as canon especially when in that very same crossover weak ass Ryu took everything Asura threw at him. I mean one punch from base Asura should have flatted the little pansy ass Ryu but nope he fought pretty well against him.
“So he’s Mace Windu with the shatterpoint ability? jk. But that is an impressive feat on multiple levels”
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Sort of, as Shatterpoint is based on an ooold martial arts concept. The entire stacked bricks breaking you see marital artists do a lot is based on that very concept, not on strength. Shatterpoint is just sort of a force cheat to be able to do that perfectly with out fail if I recall it correctly.
@Tech/Mana:
“Game mechanics.”
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Maybe, maybe not. It being a counter-attack and anti-air doesn’t make it a game mechanic, though. There are plenty of moves in the real world that work best only as a counter. Calling it a game mechanic is an assertion, not a proof. You could probably argue that the invincibility frames are a game mechanic, but the other stuff, not really.
“You can’t use crossover as canon especially when in that very same crossover weak ass Ryu took everything Asura threw at him. I mean one punch from base Asura should have flatted the little pansy ass Ryu but nope he fought pretty well against him.”
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I can use cross overs all I want if they’re applicable. Quit yer bitchin’. Ryu got STOMPED, and only put up a fight when he turned in to Evil Ryu, which was the entire point of that episode. Evil Ryu is supposedly approaching Akuma in power and kill. Asura was clearly holding back even then, as he didn’t really appear to start trying until the finishing blow, and then while fighting Evil Ryu. He didn’t go all out until fighting Akuma, which is what prompted the appearance of Oni. Asura still defeated Evil Ryu, your complaints have no foundation to stand up. Bring up something better grounded or concede. Capcom made the entire thing. Because it never happened in the Street Fighter universe changes nothing.
So much Kratos…. Great to see Akuma on the site though. Is the Asura’s Wrath Street Fighter stuff canon!?
It may be a powerful move, but it looks slow.
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Then you never played the game because you only have moments to counter it. Literally moments before that move hits you. And if you were in the middle of something, that’s when he uses it.
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As far as Street Fighter canon is concerned I don’t know if Akuma has ever actually NOT held back.
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Fight against Gen. Both didn’t held back and hit their best move. Both were able to counter it. Akuma stopped the fight because of Gen’s health. There was also against Oro, but I forget the details.
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You can’t use crossover as canon especially when in that very same crossover weak ass Ryu took everything Asura threw at him. I mean one punch from base Asura should have flatted the little pansy ass Ryu but nope he fought pretty well against him.
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Ryu, canonly, has the same potential as Akuma. He just chooses not to embrace the satsui no hadou like Akuma. I’m not saying it’s canon, because Akuma and Asura continue fighting when the game has to end somewhere, but Ryu is pretty powerful.
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Also, I am surprised to see so many Akuma supporters. I thought there would be a ton of Kratos supporters due to the fact he has weapons.
@Sauroposeidon
So you mean base Ryu can not only survive getting punched from the Earth to the Moon, he can also breath in space. I mean I wouldn’t have a problem if it was just Akuma but Ryu did things he clearly can’t so it loses some points with me. I mean Ryu breathing in space that makes no sense he survivng a punch that dragged him from the Earth to the Moon in seconds also makes no sense. Also Asura still didn’t go all out against Akuma so it really doesn’t matter.
“I thought there would be a ton of Kratos supporters due to the fact he has weapons.”
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Akuma’s weapon is the SATSUI NO HADOU!
“So you mean base Ryu can not only survive getting punched from the Earth to the Moon, he can also breath in space. I mean I wouldn’t have a problem if it was just Akuma but Ryu did things he clearly can’t so it loses some points with me. I mean Ryu breathing in space that makes no sense he survivng a punch that dragged him from the Earth to the Moon in seconds also makes no sense. Also Asura still didn’t go all out against Akuma so it really doesn’t matter.”
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Why do you find it hard to believe he survived that? He’s only the one person in the world Akuma thinks has real potential to best him. Why can Akuma fight on the moon but Evil Ryu can’t? You have this preconceived notion of extreme and obvious bias against Ryu which completely negates everything you’ve said against him as it’s all been based on personal opinion with nothing substantial to back it up -at all-, dude. The feats are usable, regardless of whether or not you like Ryu. Give it up already.
@Sauroposeidon
I’m talking about Base Ryu not Evil Ryu. I know Evil Ryu is basically Akuma level but Base Ryu is not. I have no problem with Evil Ryu doing anything it’s Base Ryu that’s the problem. Seeing how Base Ryu is just super human I don’t see how he survived leaving the atmosphere or the impact of hitting the moon. I honestly don’t understand how Ryu survived long enough to change into Evil Ryu.
“Seeing how Base Ryu is just super human I don’t see how he survived leaving the atmosphere or the impact of hitting the moon. I honestly don’t understand how Ryu survived long enough to change into Evil Ryu.”
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The power is always with in Ryu. He doesn’t miraculously increase in ability to survive things when he changes. He just tires out faster, hits softer, reacts slower, ect while he is normal Ryu. Evil Ryu is to Ryu as Shin Akuma is to Akuma. He holds back, controls the killing intent, because he knows it’s evil and doesn’t want to succumb to it and become a one minded killing machine like Akuma. When Asura punched in to the god damned moon, all that was lost, obviously, and the killing intent took over, bringing him to his full power.
Then why the hell does Base Akuma kick the shit out of Ryu all the time if he could just transform to save himself.
“Then why the hell does Base Akuma kick the shit out of Ryu all the time if he could just transform to save himself.”
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“Ryu, canonly, has the same potential as Akuma. He just chooses not to embrace the satsui no hadou like Akuma.”
So Ryu would rather be killed then to kill? Also how does this excuse him in based while exhausted being able to breath in space. Another question how did Akuma end up Asura’s world in the first what can Akuma cross dimension now?
“Then why the hell does Base Akuma kick the shit out of Ryu all the time if he could just transform to save himself.”
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Because if he gave in to the killing intent he’d be as bad as Akuma in his eyes, who he hates because he killed Ryu’s master. Also, Akuma does NOT kick the shit out of Ryu all the time. They’ve only encountered each other a few times over the entire course of Ryu’s life. Akuma doesn’t just show up every saturday morning to punch him in the face and steal a tooth or something.
“So Ryu would rather be killed then to kill? Also how does this excuse him in based while exhausted being able to breath in space. Another question how did Akuma end up Asura’s world in the first what can Akuma cross dimension now?”
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Same way Ryu did. Random wormhole I suspect. Or he can if he wishes maybe. He can drag a person’s soul to hell, after all. And yes, Ryu would rather die than become like Akuma.
@Sauroposeidon
Is there any reason why Ryu can’t learn to control it like Akuma did. Also he can’t just transform to fight Akuma off and then change back.
Akuma is that uber, I see?
It’s kind of like Batman, if Batman were to kill the Joker he would then start going down that path. If Ryu were to embrace the satsui no hadou he would be no better than Akuma in his eyes.
Akuma also has a fantastic theme song:
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTD3LhS7TXE&feature=related
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That always helps.
So Akuma could potentially Punch the Black Templar leader’s, let alone Kharn’s, respective heads clean off, in 1-vs-1?*
YIKES!!!!
I wonder on his odds against Perturabo if he starts off as Shin or Oni Akuma, for that matter. o.0
1.) (Keyword here is ‘could’, I am not saying he would in terms of actually succeeding, that’s up in the air, most likely!)
“Is there any reason why Ryu can’t learn to control it like Akuma did. Also he can’t just transform to fight Akuma off and then change back.”
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Akuma WANTS to be that way. He is the ultimate fighter, the perfect martial artist. He is completely devoted to the art of combat and has committed his life to his continued growth and understanding of it. Because of this and the nature of fighting, he is chaotic neutral, truly and completely with out any morals. The natural result of combat is death, that is the ultimate extreme, and so he only commits to fights which are to the death. Taking on enemies whether they realize they are about to fight or not who he believes may be powerful enough to kill him. That is who Akuma is. Ryu has morals, he sees fighting and martial arts as the path to grow spiritually and mentally. He’s good personified, always helping people he comes across. While Akuma does not go out of his way to hurt people, and will even save people, it’s really none of his concern. He does it out of practicality, Ryu does good because it knows its right in his heart. Akuma murdered his master in a fight to the death, and Ryu never wants to become like that. If Ryu gives in to his dark side he’ll lose control, he’ll give in to hate and a desire for violence and vengeance. He won’t just become like Akuma, he won’t be able to focus his power, and he’ll keep going like a berserker until he’s out. Akuma uses this aspect of himself the way a samurai or knight uses their sword. Guided, with skill and finesse. He’s trained for decades to do such. Ryu has not, and has no desire to harness that side of himself.
Another reason why the crossover can’t be canon is that it has no place in the time line of the main story and the ending contradicts the ending of the game.
Oh, and as was stated earlier. He has a phenomenal theme song. This helps. Trust me.
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“Another reason why the crossover can’t be canon is that it has no place in the time line of the main story and the ending contradicts the ending of the game.”
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No one said it’s canon with in the original story lines. It’s just some alternate universe happening done by capcom.
So it’s an alternate universe where everything happened except the true ending and two random street fighter appeared?
“So it’s an alternate universe where everything happened except the true ending and two random street fighter appeared?”
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You’ll have to ask Capcom to explain things.
So then how can we be sure that the Akuma and Ryu that appear are the same Akuma and Ryu from the main Street Fighter canon.
Whose idea was this?
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also can somebody link me to the gendrons “Kratos iz teh kewleest” thread
“So then how can we be sure that the Akuma and Ryu that appear are the same Akuma and Ryu from the main Street Fighter canon.”
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Because the other choice, and I don’t wish to create a false dichotomy here but I’m not seeing any other choice at the moment, is that this is a Ryu and an Akuma that we’ve never seen before, with different pasts and different powers. We know this never happened to the canon Ryu and Akuma, but that’s all. We can’t say that they aren’t capable of these things. Your entire argument appears to be, and correct me if I’m wrong, “This isn’t from a street fighter game, so we can’t count it.” My response is “Capcom made it, so I see no reason to discount it as something they wouldn’t be capable of. I can not see why Capcom would so grossly misrepresent their own characters.
So Akuma and Ryu aren’t turned to paste when Asura punches them. I mean crossovers always strength or weaken characters so it’s fair or appears to be fair. I mean in UMvC3 you have Phoenix Wright fight being that are far above him. Also yes that is my argument because it’s not from Street Fighter those feats are non canon.
MvC3 has a much more comedic feel to it. So I’m inclined to take it less seriously. Beyond that, you have gameplay mechanics. In the story line Wright would never beat Amaterasu in a fight. With out knowing the canon events of that timeline it’s impossible to know what actually happened. We KNOW what happened in the Asura/Akuma fight, because half the damn game is a cut scene.
To put this in a similar perspective. If you play well enough, Makoto can fight Akuma if I recall. She is no match for Akuma, and yet she can still win and you get her ending. This doesn’t mean she actually beat Akuma in her story line. While I admit I don’t remember anything about her story line, I know Capcom has released official information on it, so we know what actually happens to her. Similarly, we don’t know what actual role Wright played in MvC3. The problem you are citing is not limited to cross overs, but an inherent issue with fighting games in general due to the nature of them having so many characters to play as. A game that follows a single character which has a number of cut scenes and follows a specific narrative does not suffer this problem.
This is the problem I have with lore characters because when a crossover comes out and they do shit they’ve never done before people believe it because they are constantly holding back. seriously wish we could get a straight answer on Akuma’s power but nope he’s so boss no one in his franchise can even touch him.
“This is the problem I have with lore characters because when a crossover comes out and they do shit they’ve never done before people believe it because they are constantly holding back. seriously wish we could get a straight answer on Akuma’s power but nope he’s so boss no one in his franchise can even touch him.”
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The problem is that we’re not given any reason to NOT believe it, and given a lot of reason to actually accept it as something which is plausible. The straightest answer you’re ever going to get may have been that fight.
That why I have problems with lore characters as long as we get no limit to what they can do almost any feat is usable but when a character with a known limit does something that could imply growth it’s played off as non canon.
Sorry for double post but doesn’t Ryu have an established limit?
“That why I have problems with lore characters as long as we get no limit to what they can do almost any feat is usable but when a character with a known limit does something that could imply growth it’s played off as non canon.”
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That’s because a lot of characters have been around for a long time, and many cross over versions of them are younger, displaying abilities they didn’t get til they were older while still holding all the benefits of their youthful vitality, or using moves which have been altered for gameplay mechanics or just to look “cooler” (such as Ryu’s super damaging fire ball being turned in to kind of a low damage, short lived, but very wide beam in MvC2.) We know Ryu doesn’t ever use that beam in canon, because it was invented solely to match the visual style of the game, and even if he did eventually have it, he’s old enough to have grey hairs in Street Fighter III and doesn’t use it, so we know his younger self couldn’t possibly have obtained it. We have bench marks. There are none with Akuma. We only know a small fraction of what he’s capable of when just practicing techniques. We can immediately tell when something is off or wrong with characters that are so set in stone. Characters like Akuma are likely INTENTIONALLY left as they are, to keep them as being as flexible as Capcom needs them to be in order to continue fulfilling the role of ultimate bad ass. Evil Ryu, as I see it, is Capcom’s way of doing that with Ryu, so they can keep him grounded, and keep the story closely following him, but they can also just go BAM! Evil Ryu! Noncanon but still super BA! Watch this! whenever they want with him so he can “match” to stronger characters or more difficult situations.
” I’m not saying it’s canon, because Akuma and Asura continue fighting when the game has to end somewhere, but Ryu is pretty powerful.”
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Chakrablahblah, never said how long it would take for him to make his new “universe” it could have happened during that time.
@Envoy
Several problems with that. Why don’t we see Chakravatin in the sky like we’re suppose to? Why is Asura randomly walking around when he was meditating? Why would Chakra wait 500 years for to recreate the universe while Asura was frozen? He would have destroyed the planet if Asura was frozen for 500 years.
@AkumaTh:
“Then you never played the game because you only have moments to counter it. Literally moments before that move hits you. And if you were in the middle of something, that’s when he uses it.”
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I have, actually, SFIV and SSFIV. I’ve played SF other times growing up. Akuma only moves in one direction. If the game permitted it, you could easily walk off screen and avoid it.
Seth killian said that akuma is way too good to even be in the SF universe, he also said that if he could enter the DBZ universe he could have an excellent fight with SSJ3 Goku
@Q
Your joking….. can I have a link to this because if that’s true how can he fight anyone without blowing them to bits? I mean you can only hold back so much if he was at that level then even holding back people should die in one punch.
Who is Seth Killian?
Some guy who basically does work on Street Fighter. He’s one of the higher up people in Capcom if I remember correctly.
@King of Heroes
one problem with the blowing to bits thing. Superman could bust planets and holds back enough not to smear people on the wall. Thor same thing. Why wouldn’t Akuma be able to?
@GA
I like how you say as if I don’t think that’s stupid. I find it hard to believe one can pull their punch back so much. Mostly because as DBZ has shown even holding back is too much for normal human which for the most part is what these guys encounter. I mean I don’t get how any of the cosmic characters are able to not smear people into the wall by accident.
i doubt akuma would wont to hold back
I cant find the link to the interview but im not kidding you he really said that
i hink evidence points to say akuma has this in the bag.
off topic: akuma vs demitrii maximoff
@commander
It best not to compare Oni Akuma to warhammer 40k, unless the fight is between an extremely powerful greater daemon or daemon prince in the immaterium where they can alter their strength and size, Akuma is a BAMF!
“Why don’t we see Chakravatin in the sky like we’re suppose to?”
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He wasn’t visible from Gaea’s surface.
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“Why is Asura randomly walking around when he was meditating?”
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Because he had to walk to the waterfall first.
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“Why would Chakra wait 500 years for to recreate the universe while Asura was frozen?”
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Because he didn’t wait, he never said how long it would take, it obviously took a long time.
He also said that when a SF character enters another universe(Mvc3,Asuras wrath)their power level is multiplied 10 times, that’s why in SSF4 the shinkuu hadouken is a simple fireball, but in MvC its more of a kamehameha type of move.
It’s simple follow through really, real life martial artists can shatter bricks with their punches yet when they fight they aren’t instantly shattering bones even though they can hit with more than enough force, it’s more about intent and follow through than actual strength, I’ve seen guys that are big strong guys hit a concrete block over and over and just get a bruised hand then a sixteen year old girl in the same martial arts class come up and shatter one. It’s intent and follow through, you can’t punch a brick and break it you have to punch through it, if you punch it your hand stops if you punch through you break it. It’s applied force and mind over matter everyone has a mental block that its almost impossible to break a brick, but there were girls in my martial arts school that looked like they wouldn’t be able to lift the bar on a bench press let alone any weight on it that could break those bricks in one hit, if you put enough thought into not breaking the board or brick or bones then you won’t break them. Same concept much bigger scale. They focus and don’t follow through, if they followed through they could but they exert just enough to not destroy the target.
87 is at King of Heroes
@Envoy
But we can see him from Gaea surface so why didn’t we see him then? Also he could have still destroyed the planet while Asura was frozen for 500 years so why would he do that?
Man, akuma is way too good, in my book he stomps all over kratos
@Crimson Sentry at #84
Fair point is fair, it seems.
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Even Shin Akuma is more reasonable than this in terms of needed requirement, but I digress.
@Admiral at #79
That kind of reminds me of my User!-namesake’s superior officer, said officer is capable of smearing the wall from where anyone he punches to dust, but Cosmic-level PIS(or what I like to call Fate-Induced Stupidity) and to a lesser degree, general CIS prevents him from doing this, actually.
If you’re of a lower power rank than he is, you’re allowed to do more, in general.
“But we can see him from Gaea surface so why didn’t we see him then?”
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Gaea is a round planet, you know?
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“Also he could have still destroyed the planet while Asura was frozen for 500 years so why would he do that?”
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Obviously he could not have done it at any time. Either that or he chose not to.
@Envoy
So even though Asura right after his fight with Yasha went into space to fight God he somehow found 500 years of spare time to fight Ryu and Akuma? It’s not canon to the main story it has no place in the time line and also has no real effect on this match. So Let’s just agree to disagree all that peaceful jazz and that Akuma pretty much rips Kratos a new one.
Can Akuma go Oni?
shoryuken.com/2011/10/12/kevin-slackie-interviews-seth-killian/
The link talks about E.Ryu and O. Akuma(Not AW versions) being canon.
The pictures are badass.
This take on the theme everyone’s linking is better-suited!
Next thing you know is I mention Kratos vs Pyramid Head even if I didn’t mean anything via it, yet they take it seriously anyway.
This picture, say it all.
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fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/099/3/2/akuma_vs_kratos_by_magion02-d3dmq9q.jpg
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Akuma wins.
“It best not to compare Oni Akuma to warhammer 40k, unless the fight is between an extremely powerful greater daemon or daemon prince in the immaterium where they can alter their strength and size, Akuma is a BAMF!”
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As far as 40K goes, only the likes of the Primarchs, Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes (and other such beings) could evenly fight Akuma
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Anyways Akuma beats Kratos
Uhh… Anyone think they can sum this debate up for me? I mostly see arguing in favor of the lore surrounding Akuma and such rather than these two really going at it.
Lets see, Akuma can level small island with a karate chop, level sections of forests by flexing his energy, split Ayers rock in half with a kick, has a technique that can destroy the soul on contact (that works similar to Ghost Riders penance stare in the sense that more sins=more effective), has intangibility
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At least from the more relevant comments