Suggested by StealthRanger
Arriving to the scene is two-time Hall of Fame winner Link (Legend of Zelda) up against the might of Carnifex from the Warhammer 40K franchise.
Battle takes place in a large city park
Link is in his Twilight Princess incarnation For this fight, we are using the form of Link from A Link to the Past against Carnifex who has 2 scything talons, a heavy venom cannon and regeneration biomorphs.
Who would win?
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First >:D
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So how far apart are they? I don’t see Link winning in h2h against this beast. Does Link have anything even powerful enough to hurt the Carnifex?
Holy motherf***er, this actually got posted. LMAO, wow
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Hmmm, as far as strength goes, Carnifexes are capable of effortlessly flicking aside Leman Russ tanks and other such vehicles aside with ridiculous ease (those weighing in excess of 66+ tons) and are capable of ripping through heavy tank armor with extreme ease (ceramite being far more durable than any IRL material)
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Durability wise, Carnifexes are extremely durable, invulnerable 40K level small arms fire and even tank based weaponry. The most effective way of killing them is using high powered energy based attacks to their weaker armored locations (ie nothing less works). Basically they’re like insects in the sense that they have an exoskeleton thats armored across their whole body (with several areas being more armoured than others), even heavy bolter rounds and monomolecular melee weapons incapable of breaching their armoured hides.
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And since this is a regen ‘fex, he can rapidly regenerate several organ/head damage near instantly (this extends to peircing damage btw) since OoE, the first regen fex instantly regenerated several extreme wounds after being thawed out, basically kinda like Dante
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Hell, one of them even survived an orbital bombardment and was rapidly regenerating while it was hibernating (it was badly injured), and that wasn’t a regen ‘fex like this one here ie. not sure Link can harm the god damned thing
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As for their charges, where they charge and they gain momentum until they reach top speed, where anything less than a super heavy tank or fortress walls get shredded, and even then those don’t fare very well, which also goes for strength points
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Anywhom I vote for a somewhat tenacious that involves Link getting torn to shreds and eaten by the Carnifex shortly afterwards
Oh and they start about 10m away from eachother
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Oh and the Carnifex also has a heavy venom cannon as well, which can fire supersonic crystals that collapse battle tanks (which can tank hundreds of megajoules of energy btw)
“Holy motherf***er, this actually got posted. LMAO, wow”
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Oh fuck that. How many times on the ‘Topia where you were shouting “My match is getting posted, only 2 days for my speshul match to get posted, look at me and my awsome idea for another spite match”
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There isn’t a facepalm strong enough for this one.
“There isn’t a facepalm strong enough for this one.”
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Very funny, although I hear it was getting cancelled several times
“There isn’t a facepalm strong enough for this one.”
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Maybe, although I find this very fitting.
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Does Link even have anything that can scratch the Carnifex, let alone hurt it?
Can Link time travel?
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That’s one er…realistic picture of Link.
Retarded match-up is retarded.
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We need a refund for a better match.
Does Link get the Ocarina of Time?
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I’ve been researching on the Zelda Wiki, and found that that thing can slow down time.
While I have a feeling that the Carnifex wins this, I will play devil’s advocate and throw out a few things.
1. Link usually has phenomenal aim, and is adept at hitting weak spots with all manner of weaponry.
2. Composite means all gear, right? If so, he could hookshot onto the Carnifex’s head, and slam one of his more powerful swords(Master, ALttP’s Forged Sword or Golden Sword) into its eye, which would be a pretty direct route to its brain.
3. He also has gear which gives him invulnerability, if only for a limited time. Might still be enough for him to line up a shot with bombs or arrows down the Carnifex’s throat.
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That’s all I can think of for now.
“1. Link usually has phenomenal aim, and is adept at hitting weak spots with all manner of weaponry.
2. Composite means all gear, right? If so, he could hookshot onto the Carnifex’s head, and slam one of his more powerful swords(Master, ALttP’s Forged Sword or Golden Sword) into its eye, which would be a pretty direct route to its brain.
3. He also has gear which gives him invulnerability, if only for a limited time. Might still be enough for him to line up a shot with bombs or arrows down the Carnifex’s throat.”
-Carapace that can wade through bolter and laser fire.
-Diamond hard claws
-Venom cannon, pretty much an acid crystal shooter.
And forgot this:
Admin. Use. Some. God. Damn. Common. Sense. This was a blatant stomp.
Compsite Link. Wouldn’t that mean he has access to the Fire Deity Mask? Plus 4 Swords meaning 4 different Links running around?
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Also, being in the Warhammer Universe, doesn’t that mean they follow a specific deity there. And depending on the deity, wouldn’t the Master Sword, Evil’s Bane, actually be effective?
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Not supporting Link yet, but I don’t think it is a straight stomp yet.
“Also, being in the Warhammer Universe, doesn’t that mean they follow a specific deity there. And depending on the deity, wouldn’t the Master Sword, Evil’s Bane, actually be effective?”
-Closest thing Nids have to a deity would be The Great Devourer. And it’s more of a symbol for the Hivemind
Link stomps with the use of his arrow of light and glove, with his limited invulnerability. If he lets off with his most powerful stuff to begin with, the Carni’s fucked. Not the first time he’s taken on ridiculously huge, powerful monsters that are nigh invincible that completely outclass him in terms of strength.
“Carapace that can wade through bolter and laser fire.”
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It specifically says weak spots.
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“Diamond hard claws”
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What’s that got to do with being hit by a sword? Especially when the sword is being plunged into the eye.
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“He also has gear which gives him invulnerability, if only for a limited time. Might still be enough for him to line up a shot with bombs or arrows down the Carnifex’s throat.”
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I sense NLF, what has Link tanked while being invulnerable?
What a fascinating realistic rendition of Link. I had a feeling that if this did happen, that Link would be in his composite form.
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Link’s Strength
In OoT, Link’s strength alone without any special devices is 76.66428 tons. With Silver Gauntlets, it’s 270 if the block he moved was made of marble. If it’s granite, then Silver Gauntlets grant him 283.5 tons of strength.
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For Golden Gauntlets, there were two different results from Naruto Forums.were 300 tons and 567.9 tons. If the former, Link has a throwing force of 17,272.5 tons. If the latter, Link has a throwing force of 28,070 tons
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Not only does Link have the Golden Gauntlets, he also has the Power Bracelets, so his strength in a composite form is probably 800 to 1,000 tons, maybe a bit higher. That’s just a guesstimate on my part because I never bothered to find out WW Link’s strength.
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Link’s Speed
In the Cloud Strife vs. Link thread, OriginalA calculated Link’s land speed with the use of a Pegasus Seed, the Pegasus Boots, and the Bunny Hood, granting Link the speed of up to half the speed of sound, which is 343 m/s. So Link can run 172 m/s; 563 ft/s; 348 mph; 618.24 km/h.
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As for Link’s durability, well I’m sure he has some magic armors and some enhanced defense from the Great Fairies, as well as the red and blue rings. I’m not sure if I want to bother trying to calculate any of that, though. The question is, does Link have the means necessary to locate this Carnifex’s location?
Forgive me, I just woke up. Does Link have the means necessary to locate this Carnifex’s weak point. Gosh, “location”?
“If the former, Link has a throwing force of 17,272.5 tons. If the latter, Link has a throwing force of 28,070 tons.”
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What the hell?
The Samurai Jack vs Link thread stated that Link can hit a post with an arrow from across a village.
@Hermit:
“What the hell?”
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What?
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“The Samurai Jack vs Link thread stated that Link can hit a post with an arrow from across a village.”
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Impressive. The Sacred Bow should also grant Link better accuracy and damage.
Quoted from the Samurai Jack vs Link thread.
“Negative Zero July 23, 2010 at 6:36 pm – #136
Link was able to hit a pole that was only about an inch and a half wide from all the way on the other side of Kakariko Village. Link’s archery skills will most likely be what gets him the win. Link gets 24 arrows for this fight. Jack WILL get hit by a lot of these arrows. With all the talk of Jack’s sword skills it seems as though everybody forgot that both characters get bows too.”
@Proto-Mind
“Forgive me, I just woke up. Does Link have the means necessary to locate this Carnifex’s weak point. Gosh, “location”?”
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Several, but I want to go with the fan favorite “Hay listen!!!”.
You know, there was one time where I didn’t use the device to get a better shot hitting that pole one time, and I hit it. I was amazed.
@Proto-Mind
“You know, there was one time where I didn’t use the device to get a better shot hitting that pole one time, and I hit it. I was amazed.”
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I remember doing it at least once myself.
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And as far as I know, game characters are normally thought to be at the height of their skills once the idiot with the controller is removed from the picture.
@StealthRanger
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Also before we hit 50, as this is composite it must be asked, and more then one Link has had it.
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The complete Triforce, yes/no?
This battle is more laughable then reasonable. This is a major stomp right here
@Private Khaos:
“This battle is more laughable then reasonable. This is a major stomp right here”
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We don’t know that yet. I would like to see OriginalA’s and Negative Zero’s input if they decide to post something. Link, after all, does have Chateau Milk and the Magic Cape, which means invisible and intangible for three days.
@Shgon Dunstan:
“Also before we hit 50, as this is composite it must be asked, and more then one Link has had it.
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The complete Triforce, yes/no?”
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It’s been discussed before on whether or not the user of the Triforce has unlimited wishes, or if they can only wish for one thing. It hasn’t been in Link’s character to wish away anything he doesn’t like, only specific things, such as the Dark World and Demise.
Errr… That link’s pick just make me …sick ><. He's looked even more GAY than JB.
@Proto-Mind
“It’s been discussed before on whether or not the user of the Triforce has unlimited wishes, or if they can only wish for one thing. It hasn’t been in Link’s character to wish away anything he doesn’t like, only specific things, such as the Dark World and Demise.”
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He doesn’t need to “wish away anything he doesn’t like”, he can just wish for something like invulnerability for a year, or infinite magic until the end of the fight, or hundreds of other things that would give him the victory.
Composite includes magic from Zelda 2, right? Doesn’t he have a spell that turns enemies into slime?
@Proto-Mind
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Also, it’s not in a jedi’s “character” to use the Force to directly cause harm to living beings.
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Whens the last time that’s stopped a Vs?
“What’s that got to do with being hit by a sword? Especially when the sword is being plunged into the eye.”
-As a counter to the sword.
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“Link stomps with the use of his arrow of light and glove”
-If anything It’d just plink off the Carnifex’s carapace.
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And you guys are acting like the Carnifex can’t shoot back. Link’s shield won’t stop the venom cannon.
@Shgon Dunstan:
“He doesn’t need to “wish away anything he doesn’t like”, he can just wish for something like invulnerability for a year, or infinite magic until the end of the fight, or hundreds of other things that would give him the victory.”
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Is that Link’s nature?
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“Also, it’s not in a jedi’s “character” to use the Force to directly cause harm to living beings.”
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There is a rule that overrides a character’s nature, if and only if that character must kill the other, and it is not the character’s original nature to do so. For example, Batman doesn’t kill. If he was in a fight on FP that required him to kill his opponent, that would be ignored. He would kill.
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It’s called character-induced stupidity (CIS), and while plot-induced stupidity (PIS) is ignored, CIS for the most part is not. Link will see Carnifex as another creature to kill, so this does not mean Link’s CIS will be ignored. And even then, using the Triforce to win defeats the purpose of any battle.
@Proto-Mind
“And even then, using the Triforce to win defeats the purpose of any battle.”
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Never said it didn’t, I was just trying to get StealthRanger to officially rule it out before post 50.
@tau43:
“And you guys are acting like the Carnifex can’t shoot back. Link’s shield won’t stop the venom cannon.”
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“You got the Hylian Shield! This legendary shield is imbued with heroic power, making it completely indestructible.” – SS Hylian Shield description.
@Shgon Dunstan:
“Never said it didn’t, I was just trying to get StealthRanger to officially rule it out before post 50.”
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Oh. Well again, no one is sure if the Triforce can be used more than once by the same person, and so far on FP (with the exception of Ganondorf vs. Kefka), the Triforce has been ignored. I think.
“If anything It’d just plink off the Carnifex’s carapace.”
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Link’s not going to shoot for heavily armoured areas.
He’s going for the eyes, joints, any major weak spot.
If the Carnifex would dodge or block the attack, then it will, but Link will be going after these weaknesses.
I think that’s what will happen for Link if he is trying to hit Carnifex, Hermit. Link is pretty good at figuring out his opponent’s weakness and looking for ways to get around it. He isn’t the kind of character who rushes in for the kill.
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There is a 10 meter gap, though. That’s 32.8 feet apart, so that should be good if Carnifex doesn’t first try firing from his canon. This image below uses yards, but the gap between 40 and 50 yards is 10 yards total, which is equal to 30 feet.
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That regeneration is going to be a big pain to handle even if Link can hit Carnie’s weak points.
So is the Carnifex stupidly slow or is Link impossibly fast?
Because if a Space Marine can’t handle a Carnifex, how would Link be able to handle it? Assuming a Space Marine can’t handle one.
“You got the Hylian Shield! This legendary shield is imbued with heroic power, making it completely indestructible.” – SS Hylian Shield description.”
-”The Venom Cannon is a Tyranid Bio-weapon used by heavier Tyranid organisms that fires salvos of crystals formed of highly corrosive poison 2 and then coated in a metallic, venomous reside. They are launched with an electrostatic charge at tremendous velocities. A target, if not killed outright by the impact, will be shredded by the hailing shards of shattered crystal, or by the corrosive poison from the shattered crystals. They are also effective against vehicle armour, shattering within the bulkheads of a tank and killing the crew”
“The Heavy Venom Cannon(used here) is a larger and deadlier version of the venom cannon that launches a greater crystal payload at supersonic speeds. The shot collides with enough force to cave in enemy tanks, and also releases a residue of the electrostatic firing charge upon collison in a lethal blast of electrical energy.”
And that poison can eat through Adamantium. If it even hits him, the shield might hold, but the force would probably break his arm.
Link does not get the Triforce. Carry on
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And invulnerability is a no limit fallacy, considering Carnifexes can casually crush heavy tanks, which are more powerrful than mediums, which can tank hundreds of megajoules of energy with ridiculous ease
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As for hitting a ‘fex and dat accuracy feat, theres a difference between hitting a stationary object and a moving object
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Plus the ‘fexes weak spots have only been breached by extremely powerful weapons like lascannons, plasma and melta weapons. Plus this is a regen ‘fex
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As for the mirror shield deflecting the cannon, can it deflectthe energy from it (should be in the gigajoule range at least)?
“Assuming a Space Marine can’t handle one.”
-Generally they can’t.
Tau ninja’d me to the deflecting thing
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“So is the Carnifex stupidly slow or is Link impossibly fast?”
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OoE was tearing apart Tellion’s squad up close. Methinks its a little bit hard to outrun charging Carnifexes /shrug
“We need a refund for a better match.”
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I did not pay for this lol
“As for the mirror shield deflecting the cannon, can it deflectthe energy from it (should be in the gigajoule range at least)?”
Supersonic with a electrostatic residue. Meaning if it hits, Link’s getting a shock as well as acidic gas.
So this match really is a ridiculous stomp?
A hero from a fantasy world in the past vs a mutant monster tens of thousands of years in the future used primarily as a shock trooper to carry out starship boarding actions, frontal shock assaults on entrenched positions and for besieging fortified locations or enemy armour formations and acts as an organic main battle tank for the Tyranid Hive Fleets.
Seems legit.
“A hero from a fantasy world in the past vs a mutant monster tens of thousands of years in the future used primarily as a shock trooper to carry out starship boarding actions, frontal shock assaults on entrenched positions and for besieging fortified locations or enemy armour formations and acts as an organic main battle tank for the Tyranid Hive Fleets.
Seems legit.”
-That actually sums it up pretty well.
As I’ve stated before, I can’t know all the aspects to every battle suggested. If this is a stomp, everyone should declare that, and move on to some other matches that need to be decided…
@tau43:
“And that poison can eat through Adamantium. If it even hits him, the shield might hold, but the force would probably break his arm.”
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Or it might eat through the shield if it can eat through adamantium. I’m not really sure. The Hylian Shield is immune to fire, electricity, and curses, but so is the Sacred Shield, so I’d imagine the Hylian Shield would have more immunity. Immunity to all types of statuses?
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If it did hold, would physical strength allow Link to tolerate the force? Link has like 800 to 1,000 ton strength. This cannon, of course, is supersonic, so even if the shield could resist everything, Link isn’t fast enough to block supersonic objects.
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“Supersonic with a electrostatic residue. Meaning if it hits, Link’s getting a shock as well as acidic gas.”
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The electrostatic things shouldn’t be a problem, since the Hylian Shield is immune to electricity. I’m mostly concerned with the cannon’s muzzle velocity than I am with the acid and electricity. I’m not sure where that acidic gas came from.
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So the question is, do Carnifexes just fire their cannons at every target they encounter? And will Link be able to throw on his Magic Cape before anything else?
Okay, that was two questions.
“So the question is, do Carnifexes just fire their cannons at every target they encounter? ”
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Well the Carnifex would view Link as another human in its way and likely fire its venom cannon off as it charges to close the distance
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“And will Link be able to throw on his Magic Cape before anything else?”
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Would he do it off the bat? And if it takes even a little time the Carnifex would simply snipe him with dat cannon
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“If it did hold, would physical strength allow Link to tolerate the force?”
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Well medium battle tanks can easily tank energy attacks in the hundred megajoule+ range, heavies are far more durable and Carnifexes crush heavies with their strength. And their venom cannons can one shot mediums
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Plus the is a difference between lifting a heavy object and blocking a heavy object moving really are entirely different things. Momentum in other words, like was argued in Cloud vs Link I think
Link also has access to time stopping items, I was actually just puttering about in the first Legend of Zelda and it’s not even that uncommon of a drop. I get the damn time stop more than I do those fucking hearts.. damn hearts.. always dropping when I don’t need them and never showing up when I do. They mock me.
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A composite Link really just seems like too much. He’s got access to too many items, powers, and gear. I think this will go about as well as composite Megaman matches, where Megaman always ends up using a multi-game combination of abilities to do ridiculous things he could never do in any solitary game.
As far as time stopping goes, he had those with the Phantom Orbs or whatever, which he could only use a few times, and only stop time for like 10 seconds or so, which he still needs to harm the Carnifex even with time stopped, so he only has a few shots with them
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And since its a regen ‘fex…..
Here the orbital bombardment thing:
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And that wasn’t a regen fex who was bombarded btw
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Even Tellion’s heavy bolter as well as other bolt shells and monomolecular weapons were incapable of peircing the OoE’s hide
“Or it might eat through the shield if it can eat through adamantium. I’m not really sure. The Hylian Shield is immune to fire, electricity, and curses, but so is the Sacred Shield, so I’d imagine the Hylian Shield would have more immunity. Immunity to all types of statuses?”
-If you are talking about the poison it is corrosive as well. If he gets stuck in the vapor his skin will melt off.
The clock lasts an infinite amount of time, if I recall. If Link begins with one of those it’s game, set, match. The arrow of light should one hit kill the Carni anyways, so a 10 second freeze should be plenty of time.
“The arrow of light should one hit kill the Carni anyways”
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Just bounces off the Carnifexes’ exoskeleton, which can shrug off tank based weapons and 40K level small arms fire (although heavy weapons work against its critical locations, which is how ‘fexes were brought down afaik). Plus light arrows are only one shot kill against weaker enemies
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Also, how long does it take him to set up his time stop? If it takes even a few seconds, the Carnifex could snipe him with dat heavy venom cannon. Also he can only use 3 time stops, after that he can’t use anymore of them
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Basically its an endurance match. Either Link *eventually* defeats the Carnifex death of a thousand cuts style, or he gits hit once and get annihilated
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P.S: Like my new gravatar?
“Just bounces off the Carnifexes’ exoskeleton, which can shrug off tank based weapons and 40K level small arms fire (although heavy weapons work against its critical locations, which is how ‘fexes were brought down afaik). Plus light arrows are only one shot kill against weaker enemies”
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My understanding is even things as powerful as bosses only take a few more shots to kill.Evil is evil. It should work.
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“Also, how long does it take him to set up his time stop? If it takes even a few seconds, the Carnifex could snipe him with dat heavy venom cannon. Also he can only use 3 time stops, after that he can’t use anymore of them”
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Or Link could block it, the clock activates as soon as he touches it. If you give him the clock, the Carni CAN NOT win.
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“Basically its an endurance match. Either Link *eventually* defeats the Carnifex death of a thousand cuts style, or he gits hit once and get annihilated”
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That’s.. every single fight Link is in just about, I’m pretty sure.
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“P.S: Like my new gravatar?”
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He’s an interesting character, but I liked Skyquake’s name and coloration more.
“The weapon empowers arrows with sacred light that can easily pierce and destroy evil itself.[3][4][2][5][6] Due to their immense power, they can usually eliminate enemies with just one hit, as seen in The Wind Waker. The Light Arrow, unlike the Fire and Ice Arrow consumes the double of Link’s Magic Meter, with the exception of The Minish Cap and Twilight Princess, due to a lack of a Magic Meter.
It is commonly assumed that these arrows are based off of the Silver Arrow from preceding 2-D games, but they are fundamentally different in that they weaken Ganon’s defenses and stun him so Link can freely strike him with the Master Sword. Behaving in the opposite manner, the Silver Arrows are used to damage Ganon directly and not simply stun him, and are the only weapon capable of truly destroying him.”
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“In Ocarina of Time, Princess Zelda entrusts Link with the Light Arrows in the Temple of Time after all of the Sages have been awakened.[1] Although they do not do any more damage than regular Arrows to normal enemies, they are needed to defeat the King of Evil, Ganondorf, and are useful in stunning the final boss, Ganon. They are also required to dispel the magical barrier that blocks access to the upper levels of Ganon’s Tower. An added bonus is the almost-guaranteed side effect that an enemy killed with the Light Arrow drops 50 Rupees.”
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“These sacred arrows are the ultimate weapon in the game: it performs a one-hit kill on anything (other than bosses), even if it is wearing armor, as is the case with Darknuts. However, like in Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask, they consume Magic Power and must be used with care.”
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“In The Minish Cap, the Light Arrows are received after a few steps in a mini-quest and are entirely optional. To obtain them, Link must fuse Kinstones with Stranger, a man who lives in a house in western Hyrule Town. This will open a portal in South Hyrule Field that leads to the home of the Wind Tribe in the Cloud Tops.[12] Here, Link must use the Gust Jar to suck in the ghost circling Gregal, who will thank the young hero with the Light Arrows for saving his life after Link accesses the Cloud Tops via the whirlwind atop Veil Falls.[13] However, if Gregal isn’t saved by the time Cloud Tops is reached via Veil Falls, he will have died and the Light Arrows will be impossible to obtain. Holding the arrow in the bow will charge up the Light Arrow; if the Light Arrows aren’t charged, they will act as normal arrows.
The Light Arrow is a non-essential item, meaning that the plot will go on unchanged with or without the obtainment of this item.”
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I don’t think the wiki is wrong. So I trust that this 1 shot evil thing only worked in one game. Does that allow it to work against Carnifex just because of one game?
“My understanding is even things as powerful as bosses only take a few more shots to kill.Evil is evil. It should work.”
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I wasn’t contesting that it would be able to harm the Carnifex itself, only that it would have to peirce dat carparace
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“the clock activates as soon as he touches it”
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Which drops whenever Link kills other enemies. Theres only him and the Carnifex. Where were those other enemies again for Link to get a clock?
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“Or Link could block it”
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Even if the shield can take the blast, theres always the kinetic energy behind the cannon. Cannon being powerful enough to one shot mediums, which can tank hundreds of megajoules of energy with ease
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“He’s an interesting character, but I liked Skyquake’s name and coloration more.”
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Skyquake had such potential as a character (he was already badass). I felt sad how they killed him off
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Speaking of which the next TFP episode will be coming out on August 24th. Dat Wheeljack
The Carnifex isn’t really evil. It is just an animal. A smart one, but one all of the same.
Carnifexes are only “smart” because of the guidance of the Hive Mind. Other than that their intelligence is comparable to that of a wild animal
“Carnifexes are only “smart” because of the guidance of the Hive Mind. Other than that their intelligence is comparable to that of a wild animal”
-But still not evil. Just an animal.
Yeah I know, just throwing it out there
While I do think the Carnifex will win, let’s see if Link can.
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Start off with Four Sword to give more targets and they all split up with Pegasus Boots into different directions and under the cover of the Magic Cape.
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Two Links go for Chateau Romani. Another goes for the Inverted Song of Time. Another unleashes Silver-Light-Bomb Arrows as a distraction while under the protection of WW Magic Armor.
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After this is done they switch roles and repete untill all Links are under the effects of Chateau Romani and the Inverted Song of Time.
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All four Links now have effectively unlimited magic energy and move three times faster than normal (Inverted Song of Time slows time down to 30% normal speed; not half). All Links throw up the Magic Cape while not doing anything important.
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At least one Link puts on the Giant’s Mask making him … 33 ft tall I think it was. No, that was for Young Link. An Adult Link should be proportonally taller so closer to 50 ft tall I guess. This guy is the distraction.
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Another Link puts on the Gnat’s Hat and makes himself less than an inch tall. This Link is transported around by a normal sized Link that is using the Stone Mask in an effort to be inconspicuous.
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The last Link runs around under Magic Cape, shooting Silver-Light-Bomb Arrows from behind the general direction of Gaint Link.
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Once the Carnifex starts for Giant Link (since the one with arrows is also in that direction and the other two Links are too small to notice or under magic protection that requires a good spot check roll to see through), Stone Mask Link runs around the back of the Carnifex to deliver Gnat-Link onto it’s body.
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Magic Cape/Arrows-Link stops shooting and starts moving in.
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Giant Link should be in close combat by now.
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All four Links pull the Phantom Sword and stop time then move in with the Master Sword and attempt to seal the Carnifex within a time seal!
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Win?
Okay Im gonna go with link for the following reasons: zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Golden_Gauntlets + zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Giant%27s_Mask =superior strength, www.zeldawiki.org/Phantom_Sword : for time stops and I hear the hylian shield is unbreakable but im not too sure of the last one.
Hey its that match Stealth was talking about.
“Holy motherf***er, this actually got posted. LMAO, wow”
Wait why are you acting surprised? I wouldn’t even know about this if it weren’t for you.
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Going by the crazy ass strength boost Link apparently gets would that be enough to match the carnifex?
“Jack WILL get hit by a lot of these arrows. With all the talk of Jack’s sword skills it seems as though everybody forgot that both characters get bows too.”
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Nostalgic lol.
@Atomic Lowk
“Going by the crazy ass strength boost Link apparently gets would that be enough to match the carnifex?”
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^Depends. can carnifex lift an excess of a 1000 ton?
Lol @OA
Nice story
@PrimusxPilus
Why did OA leave out the golden gauntlets?
Because my stratagy had absolutely nothing to do with arm strength.
@OriginalA
Well it would at least even up the strength ratio if not make an adult giant link the strongest combatant in the match. It’s worth noting.
Well, unless Link can start running for the hills the moment the battle begins, I’m going to say Carnifex wins. Link has the equipment to allow him to be unaffected by Carnifex’s attacks (Magic Cape), but a cannon firing supersonic projectile with acidic properties just ends Link.
At the distance Link is against the Carnifex, his RT would need to be 7 hundredths of a second, or 70 milliseconds, I believe.
well….please tell me we’re getting two matches today.
I seem to remember from another composite Link Vs, that if you stack all of his “!/2 damage” enhancements, it comes to something like “1/64 damage”…
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That’s pretty durable even if he starts at normal human durability(which he almost undoubtedly doesn’t).
@Admiral
If we are, its a Mod!-Send.
If that’s not the case, let’s leave it to the Mod Council to dictate how to best deal with this mess accordingly, and pray onward that we aren’t talking Post-Endor Luke vs Original!-Tenchi Masaki or anything just as bad if not worse than that, okay?(We don’t need a redux of Dr. Fate vs Dr. Strange going on, we need it like the site needs a server wipe!)
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Carnifex#.UDKcEKllS1o
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I don’t know what 4b .5m means but I think the Carnifex is about 40-50 feet tall. It weighs 8-9 tons. And it uses itself as a battering ram.
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Random pictures of a city parks.
www.fcgov.com/golf/golf-images/webbanner_citypark9.jpg
twoseasmedia.com/images/allblogs/2005/SheepsMeadowCentralPark110805_1.JPG
us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/trainman32/trainman321009/trainman32100900008/7756763-large-quiet-lawn-in-the-city-park.jpg
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Not sure how fast either combatant runs, but this place is fairly flat with no real hiding spots, or good cover.
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“The Heavy Venom Cannon is a larger and deadlier version of the venom cannon that launches a greater crystal payload at supersonic speeds. The shot collides with enough force to cave in enemy tanks, and also releases a residue of the electrostatic firing charge upon collison in a lethal blast of electrical energy.1″
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waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait…
I looked at post #18.
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I’d like to revise my post #50.
“A hero from a fantasy world in the past vs a mutant monster tens of thousands of years in the future used primarily as a shock trooper to carry out starship boarding actions, frontal shock assaults on entrenched positions and for besieging fortified locations or enemy armour formations and acts as an organic main battle tank for the Tyranid Hive Fleets. Emphasis on fantasy.
Seems legit.”
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If Protomind’s statements are true and OriginalA’s post is right, then Link’s land speed can be 573.3 m/s after using the Inverted Song of Time also.
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So Link can run at Carnifex breaking the sound barrier and flipping it over with one hand. Over. And over. And over and over and over and kill it.
This fight seem to me to be one of Speed Vs Hax.
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So I have a question, what is Links “base durability”?
“Which drops whenever Link kills other enemies. Theres only him and the Carnifex. Where were those other enemies again for Link to get a clock?”
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Game Mechanics. If this is composite link he has access to all of his items, abilities, and gear. Which means unless you’re providing him with low level enemies to kill then he either already has the Clock or it’s laying around somewhere already for him to pick up.
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“Even if the shield can take the blast, theres always the kinetic energy behind the cannon. Cannon being powerful enough to one shot mediums, which can tank hundreds of megajoules of energy with ease”
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I tend to lean towards “bull shit magic” in this case, since his shield is magical or whatever, so I think it’d be able to ignore the kinetic impact like Cap America’s, unless we’ve seen instances of it failing to do stuff like that. As is probably known by a few people around here, though, I’m more of an old school Link fan, so I don’t know much about how the shields currently act, only how they used to, which is to say if something hit them, it got stopped.
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It looks to me like you didn’t so much as suggest what should be a fair match, but instead a brain teaser. We know Link has a shit ton of over powered, ridiculous stuff. Now we just have to find the right combination of stuff to most easily achieve victory the quickest. Does the first person to figure this out get a prize?
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“Skyquake had such potential as a character (he was already badass). I felt sad how they killed him off
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Speaking of which the next TFP episode will be coming out on August 24th. Dat Wheeljack”
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I would like to see him brought back somehow if his brother ever defects to the Autobot side, just to give him a real counter and a pull to rejoin the cons. Can’t wait for the new episode.
Also, as this.
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“My e-mail to admin.
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“Sorry to bother you, but I’ve got a question about rule #3(as the subject of the E-mail says
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According to some if equipment is self aware, then it counts as “outside help” by rule 3, and so can’t be use.
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I don’t agree, but the rule isn’t very clear when it comes to things like living swords, and for that matter stuff like Magic users who channel/invoke the power of others(gods, spirits, etc.), and I’m talking about stuff like clerics who use their gods power, not actually summoning the “others”.
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So I was just wondering if you could clear this question up a little, when you have the time
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Also if I may ask, why does the rule singled out the power to summon things? Why not just say batman can’t call superman, and leave magic powers alone? Not saying you should change it or anything, just wondering why.”
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His answer.
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“The reason Batman can’t just call Superman is that every battle would be a constant one-upping of calling for other help. The point of the matches is to see how Batman could beat Master Chief on his own merit.
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In the case of summoning, unless stated, the characters can use what they typically have. For example, Drizzt typically has Guenhwyvar (his panther) available to him for just about every battle.
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A cleric’s powers are part of what gives them power, so as long as it’s not invoking some God-like summonation to end the fight, those powers should be allowed.”
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Would seem to say that Link has characters like Navi and Midna with him, just how many people is that?
Composite Link sounds fun.
Does it mean that he can wear:
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Golden_Gauntlets
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Handy_Glove
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Titan%27s_Mitt
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Bracelet
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Glove
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Handy_Glove
and gain enough strength to lift and cut through buildings >.>
Then throw hundreds of bombs/bombchus/bomblings because of his numerous bomb bags using his super speed.
Run and throw arrows at supersonic speed.
And if he has 4 of himself, he can do all of these…
I’m probably wrong though
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Does Link even have anything remotely close to CIS?
@Tarbel
Doubtful on the last question, Sideous has better odds of having hindering CIS than Link does is where IB stands.
Relevant.
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@Shgon
This image is so Badass, it makes Badass seem normal!
@Sauroposeidon:
“I tend to lean towards “bull shit magic” in this case, since his shield is magical or whatever, so I think it’d be able to ignore the kinetic impact like Cap America’s, unless we’ve seen instances of it failing to do stuff like that.”
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Link still receives knockback, but he can deflect attacks to give him an opening. In the case of Carnifex, Link isn’t capable of reacting to supersonic movement.
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@Tarbel:
Those are all the strength upgrades Link does receive, but I don’t know how Link would be able to wear multiple gloves without hindering himself. He doesn’t use the Silver Gauntlets once he has the Silver Gauntlets, just like he doesn’t use the Silver Scale when he receives the Golden Scale.
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Link can be granted the Power Bracelets and possibly wear multiple bracelets, though. I just left Link with the Golden Gauntlets and Power Bracelets from WW, though..
*He doesn’t use the Silver Gauntlets once he has the Golden Gauntlets.
I need to stop with the accidental posts.
Wait a moment, as the Hero’s Shade in Twilight Princess is The Hero of Time(aka Oot Link), is he part of the composite?
@Shgon
Technically he is, as far as I’m aware.
“Would seem to say that Link has characters like Navi and Midna with him, just how many people is that?”
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I just looked it up myself.
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www.zeldawiki.org/Link%27s_Partners
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I’m not sure about Linebeck, but the rest seem like they can be used(what use he’d find for a boat in this fight, I don’t know.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_m5AsTPaPw&feature=player_embedded
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Link is cool >.>
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Well Link could wear Handy Gloves on his left hand and the Golden Gauntlet on his right (he uses his sword with his left hand).
Then wear the Power Bracelets.
Then wear Blue Bracelets: zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Blue_Bracelet
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zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Potion
-Basically a revive…
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Purple_Potion
-same thing..
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zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Pegasus_Seed
speed increaser
zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Pegasus_Ring
increases length of time of speed increase
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zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Roc%27s_Feather
jumping distance + height
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zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Roc%27s_Cape
gliding capability
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zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Bunny_Hood
speed increase about 68% faster specifically
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zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Giant%27s_Mask
defense and size
“Game Mechanics. If this is composite link he has access to all of his items, abilities, and gear. Which means unless you’re providing him with low level enemies to kill then he either already has the Clock or it’s laying around somewhere already for him to pick up.”
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No, they sound more like bonus pick up items to me considering he never uses them again after they are used. Plus they also seem to wear out after you change screens, which suggests a time limit or a limited range
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“I tend to lean towards “bull shit magic” in this case, since his shield is magical or whatever, so I think it’d be able to ignore the kinetic impact like Cap America’s, unless we’ve seen instances of it failing to do stuff like that”
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Not how it works. You claim that it can shrug off kinetic energy, you show proof that it does
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Anywhom, as for these strength enhancements, I came up with my own theory that they only seem to activate in certain moments given that we never see him showcase this kind of strength in combat and judging by the gaunltet’s purpose in the game (lifting/pushing heavy objects amirite?) leads me to the conclusion that they only grant him strength in lifting things. And I’d also like proof the Giants mask and the Golden Gauntlets stack among other things involving stacking
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Furthermore, even if Link can lift several hundred tons, it doesn’t mean he can block such force as argued in Link vs Cloud. Momentum in other words. I can pench press 100 lbs. Doesn’t mean I can catch a 100 lb object being flung at me at high speeds (but fast enough for me to see)
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As for the Carnifex’s strength. They can easily swat aside heavy battle tanks, tear apart huge fortress walls with their talons and topple massive wraithbone spires (way bigger than IRL skyscrapers btw)
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As far as reflexes go…. eh, not sure, but they can easily tag Space Marines who can deflect supersonic bolter rounds with their chainswords and easily hit them with their talons
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As for outnumbering the Carnifex, it always has those spines it can fire from it’s body in all directions (kind of like bullets). Good way of tagging Link since they’re omnidirectional
Oh and btw, Link cannot use the Giants Mask outside of the Twinmold Arena. In other words it would be a biased battleground to be able to use its effects properly
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Which kinds of rules that trinket out
Thanks to the Hero’s Shade, can Link even die?(what with being dead and all)
Hero’s Shade is a separate character. What does he have to do with Link and a Carnifex?