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The protagonist of The Force Unleashed – Starkiller (Star Wars) – against the Queen of Blades and the Zerg swarm (StarCraft).
No calling in reinforcements, standard gear for both.
Battlefield is a flat plain strewn with boulders and spaceship debris.
EU and games are acceptable references.
Who would win?
In one book hydralisks were actually tearing up a terran bunker made of solid neosteel…
Ok, so here’s a question, How does Neosteel stack up against Durasteel? Stormtrooper armor to Terran Marine armor?
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From what I know on Stormtrooper armor, it can suck, but it stands up well to lightsaber attacks (going off in-game stuff there) and blaster fire.
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From what i remember on seeing Durasteel calcs in other parts of this site, Most everything is made out of it, and the Durasteel ship armor can tank Turbolasers in the Gigatonnage range I believe.
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Here’s the counter to Hydralisk spikes, using the force to use them against the Hydralisks or just send them flying with a force push. Starkiller’s been shown to stop Tie fighters mid-flight and then the Star Destroyer feat easily outdoe’s the smaller spikes.
Also, from looking at Galorian’s quotes there is a slight bit of variability with the Hydralisk spines. First it’s tearing through a Neo-steel bunker with ease. Then just scratching, denting, and partially penetrating a vehicle.
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I’m not exactly a Starcraft buff, so that Vehicle may be much tougher. Though I doubt it because that would make little sense unless it was one of those walkers or bigger vehicles. If your vehicle is tougher than your Bunker then there’s something wrong there…
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Then what also doesn’t make sense is if they can fire 100 spikes at a time, those Marines out in the open should have all been dead.
This tells me one thing, the spread is very wide or they can be innacurate…
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Is the hypervelocity calc from them taking down aircraft? because if so, they could have easily just fired a bit in front of it like most people do with AA guns. It doesn’t mean their extremely fast to hit it immediately.
I’m taking a guess here, feel free to tell me otherwise.
“Ok, so here’s a question, How does Neosteel stack up against Durasteel? Stormtrooper armor to Terran Marine armor?
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From what I know on Stormtrooper armor, it can suck, but it stands up well to lightsaber attacks (going off in-game stuff there) and blaster fire.”
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Armor to armor I’m going with the marine. His gun hits like an IFV and his armor is reasonably protective against it. At a low end I know a durasteel pipe can be bent by a normal woman smacking it against a table and the walkers in the movie didn’t exactly display great durability against tree trunks either. Ship durability is going to be because of how much durasteel there is rather than how great it is. Not much data on neosteel. And er since when have stormtroopers been resistant to lightsabers and blasters?
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“Also, from looking at Galorian’s quotes there is a slight bit of variability with the Hydralisk spines. First it’s tearing through a Neo-steel bunker with ease. Then just scratching, denting, and partially penetrating a vehicle.
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I’m not exactly a Starcraft buff, so that Vehicle may be much tougher. Though I doubt it because that would make little sense unless it was one of those walkers or bigger vehicles. If your vehicle is tougher than your Bunker then there’s something wrong there…”
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I’m not familiar with the quotes in question but numbers could explain it. There was only one hydralisk pumping spines into each side of the vehicle, there could’ve been a bunch of them pounding the bunker. You can penetrate armor you really shouldn’t be able to if you shoot it enough times (this is the basis of the Gau-8 Avenger).
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“Then what also doesn’t make sense is if they can fire 100 spikes at a time, those Marines out in the open should have all been dead.
This tells me one thing, the spread is very wide or they can be innacurate…”
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I can’t say I’ve ever seen 100 spike volleys either. Most is dozens (per hydra). They’re accurate enough to bring down fighters, so they at least have the edge on stormtroopers
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“Is the hypervelocity calc from them taking down aircraft? because if so, they could have easily just fired a bit in front of it like most people do with AA guns. It doesn’t mean their extremely fast to hit it immediately.”
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It’s not a calc. The Starcraft manual says the marine’s gun is hypersonic. Hydralisk spines are stronger than that, so they can’t be much slower. Looking at the wiki, apparently the new Ghosts novel has them faster than the C-20A (that’s a ghost issue sniper rifle), so they’re almost certainly hypersonic. That gives them almost tank level firepower.
@Draco
Dark Trooper(v.3+ and above) vs Terran Marine might be another story, though, right?
So while I might contemplate the idea of trying to seek out NovaxSarah fics(due to Lightning Blitz-suggesting the idea, in fact!) the idea of Chubby!-StarkillerxFat Kerrigan would be funny.
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My mind’s eye just went blind due to that post.
In SW:TFU when fighting other force users you had all sorts of debris and weapons flying at you. The main tactic used to counter the makeshift projectiles is Force Repulse which would halt or redirect them back. In the second game you can actually disintergrate them, so those spikes shouldnt be a problem.
@Merc
Ah, right, I forgot about Repulse. Thanks for bringing that up.
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But, we can go a step further and say Starkiller could possibly just cause the spikes to stop midair and redirect them using the force.
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@W00t
“I can’t say I’ve ever seen 100 spike volleys either. Most is dozens (per hydra). They’re accurate enough to bring down fighters, so they at least have the edge on stormtroopers”
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Then Galorian needs to prove that Hydralisks can fire 100 spike volleys as that’s just plain ridiculous.
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“You can penetrate armor you really shouldn’t be able to if you shoot it enough times”
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Well, yes, that’s true. But the difference there is fairly great. It goes from scratching and partially penetrating to OVERpenetrating and ripping apart a bunker (from what Galorian state’s, which I wish to see this…) it’s a great change, even with all the Hydralisk’s pounding on it. If anything the Spike could have penetrated the bunker, but it somehow doesn’t seem to loose much velocity as it decides to rip through a mans leg. If it was the thigh then that’s a lot of bone, flesh, and armor to go through to then imbed itself into a neosteel pipe.
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“It’s not a calc. The Starcraft manual says the marine’s gun is hypersonic. Hydralisk spines are stronger than that, so they can’t be much slower”
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Then I must say this, what kind of round does a Terran marine’s gun usually use? Does it ‘mushroom’ on impact to deliver kinetic impact or is it built for penetration? As the Hydralisk spine could just be extra penetrative, that and I’ve seen that the spines are poisoned as well… this could cause something in the armor similar to Alien blood perhaps.
That’s a bunch of conjecture though and is to be taken lightly.
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“And er since when have stormtroopers been resistant to lightsabers and blasters?”
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In TFU and TFU2 all the stormtoopers never have a scratch on their armor as Starkiller is wailing on them. But he can chop of limbs, heads, and anywhere there is no armor or with a highly powerful/penetrative move get through the abdomen. Simple slashes though seem to do nothing.
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“the walkers in the movie didn’t exactly display great durability against tree trunks either”
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NOOOO NOT THE MOVIE!!!
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Anyways, the battle with the Ewoks was not only heavy PIS, but it was fairly overexaggerated.
Tge most common C-14 ammunition is neosteel tipped depleted uranium spikes.
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After a bit of image analysis of cutscene footage and some math I calculated the minimum kinetic energy of such a spike as being over 60kJ, with the maximum KE being 4 times that.
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For comparison, the vaunted 50 cal shoots rounds with a KE of 17-22kJ (depending on the specific weapon).
At 1,800rpm the C-14 is a beast of a rifle, and in fluff it often fails to penetrate terran CMC armor at most ranges.
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That is the armor that Hydralisk spines are shown to ridiculously overpenetrate.
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Tomorrow I’ll try to find the quote that showed a single hydralisk pincution a zealot with a single volle (which is sumething a squad of marines can’t accomplish with sustained fire) as well as the bunker quote.
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At any rate, Starkiller vs QoB is kind of stompish from the onset. Adding a bunch of Zerg to the mix just drives it home harder by splitting his focus away from the overwhelming psionic power that would’ve crushed him even with his full attention directed at it.
“That is the armor that Hydralisk spines are shown to ridiculously overpenetrate.”
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From what I hear, it was 2 centimeters of Battlecruiser plating.
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“Dark Trooper(v.3+ and above) vs Terran Marine might be another story, though, right?
So while I might contemplate the idea of trying to seek out NovaxSarah fics(due to Lightning Blitz-suggesting the idea, in fact!) the idea of Chubby!-StarkillerxFat Kerrigan would be funny. ”
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Here Commander, just for you.
www.fanfiction.net/s/6737774/1/Unexpected
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Now go back to the match.
btw, there are different grades of durasteel so using the “angry women smack pipe on table and bent it” doesn’t mean it’s that weak. there is the cheap mass produced grade and the super quality used for military applications.
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But anyhoo, I’m thinking Starkiller is outmatched here if The Queen of Blades gets her Zergs…
I doubt the only Zerg type she has are hydralisks. Don’t forget about all the other things she has..
starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Category:StarCraft_II_Zerg_units
Even max wank Statkiller can’t hope to stanf against the entirety of the Zerg swarm.
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This match is better off as a 1vs1, though still a stomp even then.
Hmmm….can Kerrigan hope to take on Mephiston if we go with Kerrigan at her most powerful?
Darnit, I missed this when it went up, and it is DELIGHTFUL.
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As a point: I’m not sure where the “and the Zerg swarm” line came in, but this fight is JUST Kerrigan against Starkiller. Not so much as a Zergling on the field.
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Second – while the quote from Lightning is…painful to read but fascinating and well-cited, it directly contradicts pretty much everything else in the Star Wars canon, even the other ludicrous-high-end EU stuff.
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Force Sensitives do NOT have relativistic reactions (outside this example, apparently). They don’t even have reflexes outside the subsonic range. A Force sensitive dodges an incoming attack BEFORE it’s released in almost every example we see.
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For an example: the very first time we see defensive precognition at work for Force Sensitives, it’s with Luke Skywalker facing a drone on board the Millenium Falcon. If you time the scene (and I’ll post it if people really want it for the sake of the point), Luke reacts .50 seconds BEFORE the drone fires.
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This same rule also applies to Galen Marek. In the trailer for The Force Unleashed II, Galen reacts .10 seconds before the stormtrooper attempting to shoot him in the face at the end actually fires.
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When we see a Force Sensitive ‘caught off guard’ it can be chalked up to two things. Plot Induced Stupidity IS one of these things (the scene in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine blasts Yoda across the room after sloooowly raising his hands is an example here), but far more often it’s just an example of Force Sensitives being overwhelmed.
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It doesn’t matter that you know where the attacks are going to fall (and bear in mind, the precog is precise enough to let them perfectly block blaster bolts that are what, a few millimeters wide, with a blade not terribly much wider?) if the attacks are coming too fast/ in too much of a spread for you to DO anything about it. The entire battle of Geonosis shows multiple Jedi dying fo exactly this reason.
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Galen has an advantage, even against the proposed assault of Hydralisk spines, in that his powers operate on a scale where if he had sufficient distance from them he could potentially deflect the whole assault by shoving at it with the Force. However, it’s shown repeatedly that it takes time to ‘scale up’ uses of the Force from a certain baseline.
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Which is where the problem comes in fighting Kerrigan. Even if their direct-assault TK powers operate on a similar scale, Kerrigan is going to be able to scale to full strength MUCH faster than he is. Add to this, Galen is stuck on the surface of the battlefield – Kerrigan can tunnel under it if things somehow turn against her, and unlike Galen, she’ll regenerate.
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A last note – I wouldn’t call it an insta-stomp for Kerrigan thanks to how quickly her brain processes information. While it’s entirely possible she can think that fast, we know from scene in SC2 and several books that she doesn’t MOVE that fast – Zeratul is faster, for example.
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Kerrigan’s Executive Processing speed (God I hope I’m using the right term there, it’s been a forever since neuropsych) more likely relates to, well, what she IS.
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Think about this. At ALL TIMES, The Queen of Blades is running hundreds, maybe thousands of simultaneous games of Starcraft in her brain, using one of the most micro-heavy species. And she’s WINNING.
“Hmmm….can Kerrigan hope to take on Mephiston if we go with Kerrigan at her most powerful?”
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Nope, Mephiston owns
Derp. As a rider off my last post – Kerrigan doesn’t move that fast, and it SEEMS like it requires at least some physical movement to execute psychic assaults in the Starcraftverse.
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But I could be wrong! The rest of the thread seems to indicate that I am. And the point about what all that incresibly-fast processing power is for does kind of fall flat when she only has to center it on a single individual…
So let me get this straight, Starkiller is losing against Fat Kerrigan, because he’s Chubby? o.0′
Yes. That is what is happening, and it is glorious.
@Pyre
How so?
Is it because there’s a chance Fat Kerrigan can lose serious weight if she bests Chubby Starkiller in kombat? 0.o’
Then when will she square off against puny Eragon?
@Commander Cross
These are not questions for mortal minds such as ours.
(No seriously I don’t know. The sheer awesome ludicrousness of this imagery exceeds my ability to respond to it.)
“Nope, Mephiston owns”
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How good are Mephiston’s psychic feats? He vastly overpowers her physically but I’m not sure about psychically. His codex just has him running around punching people.
“How good are Mephiston’s psychic feats?”
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I haz no idea. But im pretty sure hes an Alpha level psyker or something like that
If this is the Mephiston from 40k, we’re already guaranteed to run into the problem where Kerrigan doesn’t fit the neat mold that setting uses.
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If we go by the Orders of Magnitude scale of psychic powers in Starcraft, noting what Nova can do and then scaling up to Kerrigan’s capability, that puts Kerrigan somewhere on the scale on a Beta to Alpha-level Psyker for pure destructive capability (though that’s operating on an assumption, but still).
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For pure mental ability though, Kerrigan is only rivaled, in the ENTIRE 40k setting, by (big surprise) the Tyranid Hive Mind and its ‘lieutenants’. While the sheer number of the Tyranids makes the Zerg swarm like comparing a lake to an ocean, the fact remains that Kerrigan’s mental capability and her control over the Zerg species puts even the God Emperor of Mankind, at his CURRENT Galaxy-touching PEAK, to hilarious, crying shame.
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Problem is, we have no evidence she can actually weaponize that ability against someone. Of course, since several psychic powers in 40k involve touching the mind of the target, any attempt to do that with her pretty much screws over the poor 40k bastard doing it. The Ultramarines Librarian managed it with the Tyranid Hive Mind, but that’s literally the difference between leaping into a storm-tossed ocean, and having that entire ocean rise up and attempt to actively END you.
derp. Comparing an ocean to a lake*. Tyranid swarm is bigger. Sentence structure and I don’t always get along.
@Pyre
If we were talking Tyranids vs Vajra from Macross, that might be another story altogether as it’d be the other way around, or comparing a Planet’s ocean to an entire Aquatic Planet itself, right?
“If this is the Mephiston from 40k”
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Yeah, that one. He’s a Blood Angel
@Commander Cross
I know too little about the Vajra to say!
@StealthRanger
Thought to Google it right after I made the post. Herp. Thank you!
@Pyre
Care to google out the Vajra from Macross, then?
Or shall I get you the link?
@Commander Cross
I shall search them up! BUT, it will have to happen at a later date – work in only a few hours, and I haven’t slept.
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As regards the actual debate here – I should think Galen stands enough of a chance against Kerrigan to keep it from being a total stomp, but not enough to win. Though the rest of the thread seems to disagree, soo….
Fat Kerrigan is beating Chubby Starkiller, still?
@CC
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Aye, her TK ignores tensile strength meaning Starkiller’s fat is no protection against her while the reverse is not true.
@Officer Galorian
If I had to add my piece, whoever suggested the match(No offense intended to you, Pyre) somehow managed to shoot themselves in the foot, in regards to having a reasonably thought-out match in here, is that right?
If it is, the NOI is all the more urgent considering as of late, I tend to shoot myself in the foot when it comes to matches in general, these days, so really, he’s not alone and for me to intend offense would be to conform to outright hypocrisy and double-standards instead of doing the usual triple-standarding like I normally do.
(What’s the most chemically unbalanced creature you could find on wildlife?Because I don’t feel balanced at all!)
*sees my typo taking over the match* my fact pile legacy
@Primus
But…but you’re a genius!!! T_T’
There’s no shame in bringing in a legitimately bright idea to the table at all!
@cross
Lol true enough. As long as humor is found.
@all
So how fares the match? From all the comments and evidence I’m still of the opinion Kerrigan, either obese or fit, would take this
@Primux
If Starkiller can close the distance without worrying about Kerrigan’s TK, despite his chubbiness duking it out with the fact Kerrigan’s fat, he might have a chance.
Problem though is that Kerrigan’s TK ignores tensile strength.
@Cross
Yeesh, what’s yo beef with Eragon man? Puttin him up against a voluptuous powerhouse like Kerrigan.
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And interesting Avatar, did you draw that yourself?
@Master Sarge
He might have gotten to be more tolerable, but truth be told he’s a lot more deserving of being torn to shreds via Black Templars than most other cases, let alone Iron Warriors(Although if he kills Honusou at the same time…that would be appreciated, thanks!) although for the Admiral’s and Captain Xeno D.’s sake, at least, I’ll try to keep the kill pulses in check and strive to actually make sure he gets a decent-enough fight if I have anyone to send against him in mind.
The Admiral did that for Kratos back at Kratos vs Harry Dresden, sometime after Kratos vs Spawn got posted and my efforts to try to cut the gods of Olympus even a modicum of slack went to any hell you’d name, and if he can do it, so should I!
As to answer your question, no I didn’t draw that myself, she belongs to someone else to summon, and yes she might have met my User!-namesake’s superior officer a few times.*
(Keywords: Might Have!)
Let’s just say that if she ever actually went Ape$hit on anything, it would be generous to imagine 99.99% of the Black Templars in general along with the Iron Warriors to be killed by their own Power Armour, and this is probably as low-ball-worthy as I could manage to describe it unless her summoner(AKA the one who drew this, because she’s her summoned being!) says otherwise.(She could even go though time to kill their Primarchs before the Horus Heresy happened if the Cosmos permitted it!For your sake and mine, pray she doesn’t do this and doesn’t get consented for it outright!)
I wish I knew whether or not I’d be bluffing, or whether or not I’d be right or wrong about it, but she’d give Deadpool or Dimentio a run for their moolah for 4th wall mutilation, last I checked. o.0′
I don’t need to be familiar with her summoner to know she has shreads of honest Mercy either, she’d most likely cut Eragon himself some varying degrees of slack(How much slack exactly, I have no idea!) unless she resorts to toying with his mind 1st.(Yes, believe it or not, take it from personal experience, I recalled hearing her having to do that!)
If you need me to link you to her summoner’s deviantart account, I could do it if you asked, I just hope neither she or the Blonde Witch whose gravatar Image I’m borrowing will kill me for this!
Just trust me when I say she’s potentially FTL, and I know a guy who got constantly outwitted by her who happened to be potentially FTL, yet no matter how hard he tried, he gets outwitted anyway, you got that?
@cross
I understand that but if her tk is that Badass, her tk is thought based and hell even let’s say it has a somatic component, she processes data to such a large degree that she’ll tk/ lift her arm and point tk faster than Galen.
Now cross, in all seriousness and joviality: I can never understand your posts lol. Maybe (I think) it’s because you discuss things I know nothing about, but even when I can recognize a name or two it’s incomprehensible to me. Thanks for making me feel so lost lol
@Primus
So whether or not Galen can close that gap becomes a moot point against Fat Kerrigan, since he’s chubby, right?
Not sure if I should feel thanked or I should feel nervous as ever. 0.o’
I was just telling the truth and explaining to the Master Sarge on what I recalled of the lady on my gravatar whose image I’m borrowing.
Does Kerrigan need to raise her arm to use tk?
@OMEGAMI
I don’t know, any more than I know that the lady whose image I’m borrowing for the Gravatar I’m using might be more uber than Bayonetta(stats!-wise) or not.
@Cross
Oh really? Who is it.
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*Goes past the fifth line.*
Eeeeeeeehhhhhhhh. Wut.
@Master Sarge
In other words, the lady whose gravatar I’m borrowing has her Magical Levels happen to be Over 9,000K!!!!!!!!!
If Eragon had a vs match against her, best he could hope for is that she just makes Eragon her Cosmic Plaything, more or less, is the point!
This is pretty much where you can find the creator of the image that I’m borrowing, let’s just say that I have to grant credit where its due, otherwise said creator of the image and the Blonde Witch in the gravatar would kill me, mind-screw me and toy with me(or at least the Blonde Witch would!), and If I’m lucky, she’ll do it in that order while the creator of her image greenlights her if I forget to worry about copyright, alright?
Err… I’m totally new here, and English is not my 1st language, so forgive me if I use something wrong.
And, for the match, I think that this’s a not-too-easy victory for kerrigan. Girl who destroys spaceship in second vs guy needs more time to do that than DBZ characters need to power up?
“Now cross, in all seriousness and joviality: I can never understand your posts lol. ”
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Don’t worry about it. None of us can.
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“Err… I’m totally new here, and English is not my 1st language, so forgive me if I use something wrong.”
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You’re doing fine.
““Now cross, in all seriousness and joviality: I can never understand your posts lol. ”
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Don’t worry about it. None of us can.”
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Yep. Usually I get about 2 lines in and then give up.
I become lost after I see my name in it…
Lol I know it’s just humorous to me
“Yep. Usually I get about 2 lines in and then give up.”
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Me too
So we established that Starkiller can’t get passed the Zerg swarm right?
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On a side note, Cross, do you usually speak, talk, and type like that, or do you just do it to confuse us?
“On a side note, Cross, do you usually speak, talk, and type like that, or do you just do it to confuse us?”
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Or to derail threads?
LMFAO it’s reading like an intervention to me. So funny
I can generally understand Cross. Though occasionally it takes a second or like… 5 max, at times.
Well, it took me a dictionary, the google translate (stupid translators by the way, but it give me general idea) and about 5 minutes to understand cross post.
@khazit
If I could I’d give you a prize. You went through more effort than anybody I know to understand him lol
@Alpha or Omega
The Zerg swarm isn’t involved in this matchup (I can’t understand how that snuck into the description, as it was not intended), but even with just Starkiller versus Kerrigan alone, when we know both of them are much slower than people seem to want to insist they are (The vast majority of evidence says unequivocally that Force Sensitives and the Queen of Blades do not have anywhere near FTL reflexes, or even necessarily anything out of the subsonic range) it doesn’t seem he can win.
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Kerrigan’s telekinesis ignores tensile strength, and she thinks much, much faster than him. Add to that the need to ‘scale up’ uses of the Force against things whereas Kerrigan’s power take much less time to do the same effect, and Starkiller’s only option is to get close enough to her to put the lightsabers to work. Which is iffy and an unlikely outcome at best.
@Pyre
So in other words, Fat Kerrigan is still beating out Chubby Starkiller?
Eeyep. Unto it being a stomp, or darn near one.
@Pyre
Did someone do an image of Fat Kerrigan beating out Chubby Starkiller for the sake of memetic mutation?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaQWMot4F-Q
A curious resemblance I see here?
Awesome Starkiller picture.
Now where can we find images of Chubby Starkiller, exactly?
“Now where can we find images of Chubby Starkiller, exactly?”
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What? Chubby Starkiller lol. That would be a pretty funny.
@nomad
Just read the thread bro. It’s my fault there is talk of chubby lol
@Nomad
I know, right?
Chubby Starkiller held his own against Fat Kerrigan, we ought to get an image for him at the very least, agreed?
“@nomad
Just read the thread bro. It’s my fault there is talk of chubby lol”
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I laughed my ass off.
@Nomad
Its also incredibly Badass and even went to immortalize the match itself at an overall basis.
Its so powerful, that it needs its own imagery.
“Hydralisks would ruin Starkiller’s day quite handily – each one can shoot hundreds of spikes simultaneusly with sufficient force to outpreform C-14 spikes (which are hypersonic DU spikes).
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Even a single spike would be problematic due to their size (a single sweep of a lightsaber will not vaporize the entire projectile) and thanks to their poison even a superficial wound from a surviving sliver could prove debilitating if not outright fatal.
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A few hundreds of them at once would be impossible to stop with a lightsabre, regardless of the wielder’s skill or precognition.”
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Two words: Force Repulse. No lightsaber needed. Which can incinerate fully armoured Stormtroopers to ash in it’s stronger form, btw. And trees.
“Kerrigan’s telekinesis ignores tensile strength, and she thinks much, much faster than him”
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How so? Precog?
@Marcel
Force repulse takes a while to charge to full, and even longer to replenish after being used. The hydralisks wouldn’t even have to be close to shoot at him (they work against supersonic air vehicles [i.e Wraiths] and Protoss with precog)
“Force repulse takes a while to charge to full”
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Hence why I mentioned the incineration bit being the stronger form. But his no-charge repulse is still VERY dangerous, sending stormtroopers and man-sized metal boxes flying scores of feet. Spikes should be no problem. In addition, he can do a bout four of these before he needs to recharge anything.
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“The hydralisks wouldn’t even have to be close to shoot at him”
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How close would they need to be?
@Marcel
Yes as a psionic she does have precog (fighting Zeratul and not being chopped to tiny pieces)
@Marcel post172
They are able to take out jet fighters and battlecruisers in flight, although I don’t know their typical battle altitude.
So we have two precog individuals…hmm…
They stand still for hours, waiting for the other to move first. Note that Kerrigan does have accurate mind reading as well, along with her psionic storms, ensnaring ability and psi blast (from sc2)
They may just start out like this, huh?
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Are you kidding? one guy – I don’t care what guy, 1 guy – going up against not only the Queen of Blades, the strongest psionic humanity has ever seen, but her entire zerg swarm to boot? Now, I know starkiller is a badass. But. There are billions of zerg, billions if not more, and they come in all sizes from little zerglings which are barely bigger than a large dog but can rip into much larger, armoured marines to the mighty ultralisks which can tank pretty much anything short of a lesser nuclear blast.
Starkiller may kill tens of millions of zerg, but they can just keep coming until he gets worn down to nothing. And no, the force cannot keep him alive forever: a very long time maybe, possibly weeks of constant combat with no sleep, but the zerg can just keep coming until he makes a mistake. Not falls over – makes a mistake. Because one mistake is all it takes.
All this ignoring, of course, that kerrigan is a class 12 psionic who has been known to fight and force into retreat zeratul, (a teleporting badass with a powerful array of void powers) and telepathically control the entire zerg swarm simultaneously. In her more recent Primal Queen of Blades form, she has been shown to cause hurricanes when she gets angry. Starkiller might win in 1 on 1, but with the swarm at her command, Kerrigan can’t lose.
Mandrakk solos
@ Tsubodai
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“But. There are billions of zerg, billions if not more, and they come in all sizes from little zerglings which are barely bigger than a large dog but can rip into much larger, armoured marines to the mighty ultralisks which can tank pretty much anything short of a lesser nuclear blast.
Starkiller may kill tens of millions of zerg, but they can just keep coming until he gets worn down to nothing. And no, the force cannot keep him alive forever: a very long time maybe, possibly weeks of constant combat with no sleep, but the zerg can just keep coming until he makes a mistake. Not falls over – makes a mistake. Because one mistake is all it takes.”
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It helps to actually read the match description before you post anything. This is a one-on-one fight between just Marek and QoB. NO CALLING IN REINFORCEMENTS. No Zerg for QoB, no Empire for Starkiller.
@tsubodai
If you read the thread you’ll see even one on one she stomps him.
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Fat Kerrigan FTW
@ Primus
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What makes it a stomp?
@Marcel
Her thought processing power, rt, and psychic powers (compatible with the force) are leagues better. She also ignores tensile strength, a nice bonus. An example/comparison: Zeratul is better/stronger than Protoss that can ACCIDENTALLY planet life wipe with psionic storms, and she curb stomps him psionic wise.
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She’s on par with Sid and the older Sith, not Galen
Star Craft will be added to the army Im trying to send at Mandrakk
@Primus
I’m fairly certain that tensile strength ISN’T ignored and that this whole “ignores tensile strength” is a mistranslation of a passage in Starcraft Ghost: Nova (which I have and have read. Good book by the way), but I still think her Psionics are stronger and she wins anyways, but if this was in a fight between Kerrigan and adamantium or some other SUPER material, I’d be all over it, but am not right now because this a fight between her and Starkiller.
@vunder
Oh ok. Could you explain how that was mistranslated? I’m very curious and I’ve been under this assumption via others for quite some time