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Today we have a free for all between four powerful fighters!
For this battle Etrigan will be the DC animated version.
The battle takes place in an abandoned castle in winter.
Who wins?
Seras Victoria Vs Arthas Vs Blood Angel Vs Etrigan
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Kinda leaning toward Etrigan given he’s a Superman villain. Even if hes the DCAU version
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Perhaps my next upcoming match might be a birthday surprised :maybe
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Pretty kool Blood Angel and Seras pics tho
Sup Stealth I finished the Megatron Spacebridge thing. It’s in my Blogs on the OBD.
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On-topic.
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I too am leaning towards Etrigan, just because he fights Superman at some point IIRC, which is instantly above the Space Marine at least.
Oh hey Darthgrim, I’ll go check it out
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Other than Etrigan, Im not sure how Seras or Arthas will hurt the Blood Angel much (even more so with the calc on the SM armor :maybe)
Not sure how DCAU stacks up in stats but I don’t recall Etrigan doing anything overly impressive. He fought Supes but DCAU Supes is watered down heavily from comics Supes.
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Until Etrigan gets some more elaboration, I’m voting the Blood Angel to win this as neither Seras or the other guy can touch him while he can curbstomp both of them.
“Not sure how DCAU stacks up in stats but I don’t recall Etrigan doing anything overly impressive. He fought Supes but DCAU Supes is watered down heavily from comics Supes.”
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www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=15830
Forgive me if I’m ignorant to the physics behind that but that looks like a reentry crater to me and didn’t the Blood Angel tank reentry before or was that wank?
Well Etrigan did fight Supes who punted Darkseid through several buildings without Darkseid losing momentum
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And there are several instances of Space Marines tanking re-entry, several without drop pods even. I think I calced the re-entry thing at one point. Got a result of 12 tons of durability (like city block level or so)
Whose to say Supes went all out against Etrigan? Darkseid is far different considering the animosity he holds towards him and how many times he attacked him without restraint in his show and the Justice League series.
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Either way, Etrigan is likely at least double digits in strength even in this incarnation. Depending on how fast he is and how durable he’d be to Space Marine munitions or towards the others’ attacks, he could pull out a win.
Yeah good point, given Superman’s “world of glass” speech in that JLU episode
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Although I’ll wait for other feats of Etrigan
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Theres a quote of a semi-armorless (he had no armor on his fists) Space Marine demolishing a section of a large war factory with several blows for strength points that I think is on either Black Templar vs Dresden or Lara Croft vs Space Marine or something, but I have to go soon so I’ll see if I can get it later
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Although im admittedly in the dark about Space Marine strength feats tbh
I think it was a “world of cardboard” actually.
If the Blood Angel have injected himself with Sanguinius blood he should take down Seras even with her regen. But right now Seras can take him down.
Arthas in his Lich King state or not?
How can Seras take him down? I’m skeptical of the Harkonnen’s ability to tear through his armor let alone even penetrate it unless some Bolter specs can be brought to be used as a base.
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I don’t recall much feats of strength of Seras either. Could she even penetrate the Captain’s skin when they fought?
@Soldier’s Shadow
“I don’t recall much feats of strength of Seras either. Could she even penetrate the Captain’s skin when they fought?”
Well with broken arm she destroyed Captain healthy arm(and her own arm)) in their strike.
“How can Seras take him down? I’m skeptical of the Harkonnen’s ability to tear through his armor let alone even penetrate it unless some Bolter specs can be brought to be used as a base.”
I’m was thinking that BA doesn’t have his helm in this fight)
“Well with broken arm she destroyed Captain healthy arm(and her own arm)) in their strike.”
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How hard exactly was the Captain’s skin? I recall it being able to resist Walter’s wires from cutting him up so I’m thinking stronger than concrete or as hard as steel at best so far.
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“I’m was thinking that BA doesn’t have his helm in this fight)”
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I’m pretty sure helmets are standard issue for all Marines.
@Soldier’s Shadow
“How hard exactly was the Captain’s skin? I recall it being able to resist Walter’s wires from cutting him up so I’m thinking stronger than concrete or as hard as steel at best so far. ”
Yes both young and older Walter can’t harm him with their wires, but there is no other such feat for him. And we really can’t say for sure if he can resist dark Walter. I mean Major choose Walter and not Captain to fight Alucard.
“, but there is no other such feat for him. ”
Gotta corect myself after re-reading Helsing the Dawn. Cap lost his arm after a shot from Alucard machine gun. So his skin is not that strong.
“Cap lost his arm after a shot from Alucard machine gun. So his skin is not that strong.”
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His gun shoots blessed silver bullets, of course it hurts.
Well I’m going with the Angel or Seras. Mainly because of her speed and the fact that she uses an anti-tank rifle like it is nothing.
And @ Soldier’s Shadow, I’m pretty sure reentry survival has happened somewhere or another, however, they were probably in Terminator armor, as there is no way standard armor could take the impact, and the heat would melt the joints together.
@Envoy
“His gun shoots blessed silver bullets, of course it hurts.”
Can you please give proof to that? I just can’t find there such thing stated. I mean Hellsing: The Dawn is the prequel manga, so Alucard may not have his silver bullet by that time. He even use machine gun not his usual gun.
“And @ Soldier’s Shadow, I’m pretty sure reentry survival has happened somewhere or another, however, they were probably in Terminator armor, as there is no way standard armor could take the impact, and the heat would melt the joints together.”
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Guess that Black Templar stuff was all extrapolated then. /shrug
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Being that you seem to know Seras and 40K, would the Harkonnen be of use against the Space Marine? I hear varying durability feats of their armor and I know that Bolters are like RPGs in machine gun form so how would the Harkonnen stack up?
Harkonnen…From Dune?
What do you know?
The theory of stating Space Marine Chapters to be used is actually showing in positive results!
Now we look to the other 3 fighters to see what they have to offer, so let’s begin, shall we?
@G.B
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Seras’ gun is called the Harkonnen. It fires 120mm DU tank rounds.
Doesn’t Arthas have some pretty strong (as in, insta-kill) magic? Just a thought.
“Being that you seem to know Seras and 40K, would the Harkonnen be of use against the Space Marine? I hear varying durability feats of their armor and I know that Bolters are like RPGs in machine gun form so how would the Harkonnen stack up?”
-Should work well. After all it is just a standard Blood Angel.
“The theory of stating Space Marine Chapters to be used is actually showing in positive results!”
-It’s not a theory, it’s a fact. Just saying “Space Marine” with 40k is like just saying “Force User” with Star Wars.
I’m going to lean towards team 1 due to Arthas and specifically his Death and Decay spell.
@ReDruM
That would be team 2.
@Tau
Either way, methinks this will go a lot better from here on out if we just state the Space Marine Chapter to be used to begin with, saves the site a whole lot of cause for civil war and stuff, among other things, amen?
“@Tau
Either way, methinks this will go a lot better from here on out if we just state the Space Marine Chapter to be used to begin with, saves the site a whole lot of cause for civil war and stuff, among other things, amen?”
-Makes for more specific debating.
“@Envoy
“His gun shoots blessed silver bullets, of course it hurts.”
Can you please give proof to that? I just can’t find there such thing stated. I mean Hellsing: The Dawn is the prequel manga, so Alucard may not have his silver bullet by that time. He even use machine gun not his usual gun.”
Silver bullets are standard for the hellsing organization
They even armed the mercenarys they hired with them
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Any thing to Change befor this hits 50
Are we going by the Assumption that Arthas’ Plot move actually life wipes the area or that it just hurts really bad?
“Guess that Black Templar stuff was all extrapolated then. /shrug”
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Actually at the top of my head, there was a Librarian who tanked re-entry with just his armor. And I have no quote on me but a Marine who was dormant for 10,000 years or so fell from orbit and was unharmed by the impact
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“I think it was a “world of cardboard” actually.”
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Been a while since I seen that episode. Still an epic speech tho
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Anyways, regular Marines take tankbusting grenades with little to no effort:
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“They laughed as they worked, a drywicked laughter that was frightening in its intensity. From behind the circular saws of an industrial rockcutter, a hooded man lobbed a rock at Sica. He heard a whistling sound and he turned the slab of his shoulder pad towards the missile. There was a flash of light. Even with his eyes closed, Sica’s vision strobed red and bright yellow. It had been a grenade. The explosion pushed Sica slightly and made him grunt with annoyance at his own carelessness. He shot the man off the industrial saw, quickly, as if ashamed.”
Blood Gorgons, p.63
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Unphased by lasgun fire (which I think can exert megajoules of force behind them, capable of blowing limbs off at the lowest setting as well as punching 2m holes in ferrocrete)
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“A blast from a lasrifle struck Marduks helmet and his head was jerked to the side. Snarling, he turned to face the attaker that dared to shoot him.
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Varus swore as he waited for the laslok to repower. though they fired powerful singles bursts of energy, the weapons were painfully slow between firing. Still the shot had done little more than irritate the towering monster that was leading the power armoured killers.” / Dark Apostle, p.79
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“With a hum, the Las-lok repowered and he fired again at the huge Chaos Space marine. The shot was taken in haste and not on target. Nevertheless, it struck the beast on the wrist, and his accursed bolt pistol fell from his hands.
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Snarling in Anger, Marduk cleaved the long lasrifle wielded by the infidel in two, and reached out and grabbed him around the throat with his empty hand. He felt blood seeping from his wrist where the wretch had blasted him, but it was already congealing.” / Dark Apostle, p.79
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And there are several examples of Marines tanking bolt rounds with no effort (bolt rounds being .75 caliber supersonic+ armor peircing high explosive rounds)
@Stealth: that might have been a Frag grenade instead of a Krak Grenade in the Blood Gorgons quote… I would have to dig out my copy of the novel to be sure…
It would be helpful to know which form of Arthas is being used, since his powers vary greatly from Paladin to Death Knight to Lich King. And Seras is currently my personal choice, since all she needs is a weak spot in the armor of the Blood Angel, and she could get her – what would you call it, tendril? Blood spike? – inside, and then she could blend him from the inside(a la Warp Spider Death Spinners). I also have next to no knowledge of Etrigan(think he showed in an episode of Batman: B&tB, not sure), so any info would be helpful(durability, special powers, etc).
“It would be helpful to know which form of Arthas is being used”
as he was before he died
“since all she needs is a weak spot in the armor of the Blood Angel”
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What weak spot? Space Marine power armor is a fully encased suit of ceramite armor. Said armor heavily resistant to surface temperatures and capable of shrugging off .75 caliber bolt rounds with ease and lasbolts (that have megajoules of force behind him) Even so, how would she know of it right off the bat?
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Also, what kind of equipment does the Space Marine have here? Standard equipment only? Or does he have some heavy weapons too?
standard weapons
So lets see, bolt pistol, bolt gun, combat knife, frag grenades and krak grenades
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Fair enough then
“What weak spot? Space Marine power armor is a fully encased suit of ceramite armor. Said armor heavily resistant to surface temperatures and capable of shrugging off .75 caliber bolt rounds with ease and lasbolts (that have megajoules of force behind him) Even so, how would she know of it right off the bat?”
-Every novel makes a point of the weakness of joints and seals.
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“Actually at the top of my head, there was a Librarian who tanked re-entry with just his armor. And I have no quote on me but a Marine who was dormant for 10,000 years or so fell from orbit and was unharmed by the impact”
-That was Librarian. They could survive due to Psychic talents.
And I know of what you speak of with the dormant Marine. And he was inside of a Battle Barge wreckage.
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“And there are several examples of Marines tanking bolt rounds with no effort (bolt rounds being .75 caliber supersonic+ armor peircing high explosive rounds)”
-120mm rounds are a Hell of a lot bigger than a .75 caliber.
“So lets see, bolt pistol, bolt gun, combat knife, frag grenades and krak grenades
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Fair enough then”
-Angels are assault, most have Chainswords.
“Every novel makes a point of the weakness of joints and seals.”
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Oh ok. Even so, how would anyone figure out this weakness off the bat?
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“120mm rounds are a Hell of a lot bigger than a .75 caliber.”
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I was referring to bolt rounds, which are .75 caliber high explosive supersonic rounds
As for the joints thing, how narrow are these weak spots?
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“Angels are assault, most have Chainswords”
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Oh, awesome then
“Oh ok. Even so, how would anyone figure out this weakness off the bat?”
-The fact that they are bare of armor and generally unpainted(black), would stand out the most.
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“I was referring to bolt rounds, which are .75 caliber high explosive supersonic rounds”
-I know you were, and Seras fires 120mm anti-tank rounds.
“Oh ok. Even so, how would anyone figure out this weakness off the bat?”
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Shooting at him at other spots when center mass and headshots don’t suffice? The joints even look fairly thinly armored in comparison to the rest of the refrigerator they run around in.
“As for the joints thing, how narrow are these weak spots?”
Generally the knee joints have knee guards. Elbows and neck are generally bare. Thighs and neck are pretty narrow.
“Generally the knee joints have knee guards. Elbows and neck are generally bare. Thighs and neck are pretty narrow”
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Ok then, even so the joints are fairly narrow to be exploited
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“Shooting at him at other spots when center mass and headshots don’t suffice?”
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You got me there. I feel stupid now for asking that question. Even so the Marine is still incredibly fast, strong and is rapidly firing high explosive supersonic RPG rounds at them, which can pop humans apart like wet paper sacks. Thus strategic thinking would be somewhat hard in such a firefight, especially being pestered by such a barrage
“Thus strategic thinking would be somewhat hard in such a firefight, especially being pestered by such a barrage”
true
but serras can fight while pip comes up with the strategy the same way they did when they faught the captain
“Thus strategic thinking would be somewhat hard in such a firefight, especially being pestered by such a barrage”
-Of course she has a sniper rife, and the longest range.
And being that Pip is her familiar, he wouldn’t count as outside help.
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Also, Etrigan might prove to be a good match-up for the Marine between his fire breath, flight and superhuman strength.
Space Marines can resist flamers in their armor which are “white hot” and described as being as hot as two to three thousand degrees celcius for heat resistance points
“Space Marines can resist flamers in their armor which are “white hot” and described as being as hot as two to three thousand degrees celcius for heat resistance points”
-It also records their joints fusing under said heat.
“It also records their joints fusing under said heat.”
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Though the Marines themselves barely felt the heat and the armor istelf was relatively intact without much external damage
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How hot is DCAU Etrigan’s flame breath?
“How hot is DCAU Etrigan’s flame breath?”
-Don’ know.
any one want to give arthas’s magic?
“How hot is DCAU Etrigan’s flame breath?”
turns metal to dust in seconds
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lti_k9TIOAw
“Though the Marines themselves barely felt the heat and the armor istelf was relatively intact without much external damage”
-Though not being able to move, puts a damper on that.
“From somewhere a flamer unleashed a blaze of burning promethium, a gush of flaming orange liquid washed over him, but encased inside his armour he barely felt the intense heat.”
-Imperial Armour Volume 7, p.79 – Siege of Vraks
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Space Marine was barely phased by a flamer
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“”With his left he expelled the last of his flamer. The dark eldar caught in the high pressure stream shrieked and died loudly, their inferior carapaces charring under the chemical flame. Capable of stripping paint off a tankhide in its raw form, when ignited the palmitic acid burned to a glowing white two thousand degrees. Within seconds the dark eldar were melted into stumps of fused plating and flesh. Corrosive fumes billowed out in a thick, cloying raft, driving back those dark eldar who were hounding Gammadin too closely.”
Pg.13 Blood Gorgons”
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Flamer temperature is at least 2000 degrees at least (doesn’t say whether its Fahrenheit or Celsius). Which Space Marine armor casually shrugs off
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“turns metal to dust in seconds”
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Said metal was likely steel. Melting point of (carbon) steel is 1425-1540 degrees. Ceramite can tank temperatures of 2000-3000 degrees
“‘I’ll never forget the noise,’ he said. ‘It was like a thunderstorm had suddenly sprung into existence, and our first five ranks were completely cut down, dead to a man without even the time to scream. The enemy’s bolts tore limbs from bodies or simply burst men apart like wet sacks. I turned to shout something, I forget what exactly, when I felt a searing pain in the back of my head and I fell over the remains of a man who’d had his entire left side blown off. It looked like he’d exploded from the inside out.”
Tales of Heresy, p.353 – The Last Church
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Bolt rounds described as popping human beings apart like wet sacs
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“Barsabbas reacted as he was drilled, pressuring them witha wide spread of automatic fire. The sudden volley of crackling bolt shells cut out in a semicircle. Rounds so heavy that even their passing shockwave haemorrhaged the brains nd organs of any target in a one-metre radius.”
Blood Gorgons, p.245
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Bolt rounds create shockwaves with one meter radius’ that create massive haemorrhaging of people inside said shockwaves
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These types of rounds barely even phase Space Marine power armor
“”With his left he expelled the last of his flamer. The dark eldar caught in the high pressure stream shrieked and died loudly, their inferior carapaces charring under the chemical flame. Capable of stripping paint off a tankhide in its raw form, when ignited the palmitic acid burned to a glowing white two thousand degrees. Within seconds the dark eldar were melted into stumps of fused plating and flesh. Corrosive fumes billowed out in a thick, cloying raft, driving back those dark eldar who were hounding Gammadin too closely.”
-Where does it say the Flamer hit him, from the looks it just hit an Eldar, and he got some baskwash.
“Where does it say the Flamer hit him, from the looks it just hit an Eldar, and he got some baskwash.”
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It didn’t. It was an example of how hot the temperature of a flamer is. Which the quote said 2000 degrees at least. Which at least quantifies the heat resistance feat thats on the respect thread
Might as well finish that thought. The example of the heat of it was for quantification so then we didn’t simply get a flame resistance feat with no known temperature thus leaving us to extrapolations to infinity for flame resistance
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Basically to avoid extrapolations
“Might as well finish that thought. The example of the heat of it was for quantification so then we didn’t simply get a flame resistance feat with no known temperature thus leaving us to extrapolations to infinity for flame resistance
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Basically to avoid extrapolations”
-Got it.
“as he was before he died”
Ah, that would be by the time he is still a paladin and is holding Frostmoure.
These are taken from the Warcraft 3 manual, pages 7-8.
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Holy Light: By channeling the positive energies of the Light, paladins can form a wave of healing energy to mend their comrade’s wounds. This holy energy is also capable of causing damage to the undread and their dark masters.
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Divine Shield: Empowered by the Light, paladins can surround themselves with an impenetrable barrier of positive energy. While they are encased in it, physical and magical attacks cannot do them any harm.
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Devotion Aura: The mere presence of a powerful paladin can instill great courage and inner
strength in those around them. This powerful, spiritual surge actually increases
the defensive capabilities of those gathered near the paladin.
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Resurrection: By invoking the grandeur of the Light, mighty paladins can bring recently
slain comrades back to life – enabling them to fight on for justice, freedom
and the glory of Lordaeron.
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I don’t know what Frostmourne can bring to the table, but eh, this’ll do.
www.wowpedia.org/Frostmourne
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I have a question though, Arthas wasn’t dead when he became a Death Knight, so does it also mean he’s still alive when he became the Lich King?
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Tkane from the Warcraft 3 manual, page 38
Death Knight: Death knights were once heroic, virtuous defenders of humanity.
However, they were corrupted by the subtle machinations of the
Lich King and lured to his dark standard. These former heroes were
given untold power and the promise of immortality in exchange for
their loyalties. Although they retained their humanity, their twisted
souls were bound to the Lich King’s will for all time. Bestowed with
black, vampiric runeblades and shadowy steeds, death knights
now serve as the Scourge’s mightiest generals.
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As for the Death Knight’s abilities:
DEATH COIL
Death knights can call upon the forces of darkness at will, causing bolts of
death to issue from their hands. While doing considerable damage to the
death knights’ enemies, the Death Coil also heals their undead brethren.
DEATH PACT
Through the sacrifice of his followers, a death knight can absorb their
unholy energies and convert them into health for himself.
ANIMATE DEAD
Arguably the death knights’ most horrific power is their ability to raise
recently slain corpses into an army of the undead, no matter what their allegiance
in life may have been. Though they are brought back for a time, the
death knights’ recalled warriors will eventually fall, never to be raised again.
UNHOLY AURA
All death knights can learn to exude a dark, raging battle aura that causes
allied creatures around them to move and regenerate life more quickly.
“as he was before he died”
Ah, that would be by the time he is still a paladin and is holding Frostmoure”
i ment lich king but if everyone feels palidin arthas is a better choice then use that version
“Empowered by the Light, paladins can surround themselves with an impenetrable barrier of positive energy. While they are encased in it, physical and magical attacks cannot do them any harm.”
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Impenetrable sounds like a gameplay mechanic. What kind of durability does this shield have? What kind of attacks has it tanked?
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“The mere presence of a powerful paladin can instill great courage and inner strength in those around them. This powerful, spiritual surge actually increases the defensive capabilities of those gathered near the paladin.”
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Im guessing this is an innate ability/passive power. If it affects everyone, wouldn’t this buff the opponents here?
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“I don’t know what Frostmourne can bring to the table”
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I hear it strips souls or something in Sephiroth vs Arthas or Kharn vs Lich King or whatever. If this is true, does this require the sword to make contact with the opponent, or can Arthas do this without touching them?
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“Death knights can call upon the forces of darkness at will, causing bolts of death to issue from their hands. While doing considerable damage to the death knights’ enemies, the Death Coil also heals their undead brethren.”
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Any feats of destructive capacity for these bolts of energy? Or do they ignore durability in one form or antoher?
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Also does Arthas have any feats or strength, speed, reactions, destructive capacity outside of gameplay mechanics?
“Said metal was likely steel. Melting point of (carbon) steel is 1425-1540 degrees. Ceramite can tank temperatures of 2000-3000 degrees”
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What we actually need here is vaporisation, which should be something along the lines of 3000 C.
“What we actually need here is vaporisation, which should be something along the lines of 3000 C.”
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The melting point should be somewhere above 3000 C. I was saying that temperatures that can melt steel would be insufficient to remotely phase ceramite power armor
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The steel melting point used as a quantifiable figure for Etrigan’s flames which melted steel in seconds or so
wasnt just melted it was turned to ash does that change anything?
Well I’d probably say its something akin to vaporisation that being the case unless theres problems with this later on (seems like a more suitable base imo)
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Which Etrigan’s flames are at least 3000 C. Which Space Marine armor has been shown to take. (flamers are at least 2000-3000 C)
Hmm, I’ll see if I can go dig up some strength feats for him then.
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Unfortunately it’s been ages since I watched that show and he’s not a very well known character so chances are there won;t be much for him, within easy reach of course.
Saber>>>>everyone here.
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On a serious note, if Arthas uses his death spells, the SM and Seras die. Dunno if Etrigan has resistance to them. SM has the most strength though and second in speed. Seras is the fastest. Etrigan wasn’t anything that powerful IIRC.
first
“Saber>>>>everyone here.”
qft
second
“if Arthas uses his death spells, the SM and Seras die”
seras is undead wouldnt they heal her? or aleast no affect her?
imagin lanelot with frostmourn
Nah, Arondight is far superior to Frostmourne. It’s as strong as Excalibur.
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Hmm… Yeah, you’re probably right.
“Nah, Arondight is far superior to Frostmourne. It’s as strong as Excalibur.”
arondight might be as poweful as sabers excalibur(gawain has a version of it) all we know about it is it boosts his power its unknown if it has a blast attack like the other fairy made swords
(caliburn,excalibur,excalibur galantine)
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rather than actuly having frostmourn i more enjoy the idea of lancelot kicking arthas’s ass, making him watch as his sword is stolen then killed
this also works with nightmare and soul edge xD
“Seras is the fastest”
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How fast is Seras? Space Marines are casual bullet timers (dodge bolt rounds which are .75 caliber super-hyper sonic armor piercing RPG rounds). I know she’d be at least supersonic
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“I know you were, and Seras fires 120mm anti-tank rounds.”
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Guess I overlooked the point. Oops. Anyways Space Marines take tankbusting attacks with very little damage and lightning stated to have equivalent to penetrator rounds (which one-shot tanks quite nicely)
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“SM has the most strength though”
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Blood Angels are also more bloodlusted than most other chapters (save the World Eaters probably) to boot and the Marine has at least 2 weapons that ignore durability (combat knife and chainsword if they have one here via monomolecular edges)
Haha. You should make a Saber and Lancelot vs *insert team here* submission.
“You should make a Saber and Lancelot vs *insert team here* submission.”
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Dante and Vergil lol
“How fast is Seras”
iirc she blitzed multiple faster than the eye can see (possibly bullet timming) vamps
“Haha. You should make a Saber and Lancelot vs *insert team here* submission”
im considering kiritsugu and saber vs genesis and zack.
also considered lancelot vs soul caliber fighters
Saber at full power would equal Dante in speed. Time artifacts seal the deal though.
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Saber would kill Zack and Cloud several times over.
“Saber would kill Zack and Cloud several times over.”
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But- but- Cloud is Mach 26 tho!
“But- but- Cloud is Mach 26 tho”
saber has mach 26 reactions aparently
and avalon
Mach 28 reactions actually. Not to mention Lancelot should be around the same. Also, both Lancelot and Saber can city-bust when unleashing their weapons.
“city-bust when unleashing their weapons”
thought it was multi-city block not city?
lancelot is unknown if he can do it at all
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reletivistic combat speed is a plus though
Nah, city. I asked several Nasuverse experts on the OBD already. They confirmed it.
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By hype, Arondight should have similar attacks similar to other high-level NPs like Excalibur and EA.
“By hype, Arondight should have similar attacks similar to other high-level NPs like Excalibur and EA.”
maybe but it already has the buffing property
like i said its likely but its still guessing.
I like Arondight more though. And Lancelot’s death was just overwhelming.
personly i prefered diramuids death.
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iskanders death was meh but waver standing up to gilgamesh was good
I liked how Lancelot confessed his guilt and died a happy death next to his king.
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Yeah, even Gil said he respected Rider and that’s a huge accomplishment.
“I like Arondight more though”
my favorit weapon is gae bolg
“Yeah, even Gil said he respected Rider and that’s a huge accomplishment.”
of course he did its broskander the great were talking about after all
“Impenetrable sounds like a gameplay mechanic. What kind of durability does this shield have? What kind of attacks has it tanked?”
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I’ve never played World of Warcraft, but in the Warcraft 3 game it makes you invulnerable for a short (45 seconds) amount of time.
Arthas was still alive when he was the Lich King, so his abilities as a Paladin are no longer useful. I’ll now stick to his Death Knight abilities.
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“Also does Arthas have any feats or strength, speed, reactions, destructive capacity outside of gameplay mechanics?”
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He raised a powerful dragon (Sapphiron was level 15 in a campaign where heroes only go up to level 10) back from the dead. He was still a Death Knight when he did this and he was already weakened from travel and the decreasing powers of his master.
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Question, Seras is undead, Arthas controls undead, is the two connected?
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If Arthas can survive long enough for one of the other fighters to die, he can reanimate their bodies to fight for him, or turn them undead and still fight for him.
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Joan of Arc was really a nice addition to Caster’s past too.
“Question, Seras is undead, Arthas controls undead, is the two connected?”
seras technichaly has a master already alucard
so im not sure how this would work
Seras also isn’t a mindless zombie if that changes anything.
“Joan of Arc was really a nice addition to Caster’s past too.”
its actuly part of the legend(although rais was real)
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Gilles de Rais, was a Breton knight, a leader in the French army and a companion-in-arms of Joan of Arc. He is best known by his reputation and conviction as a prolific serial killer of children.
.Gilles served as a commander in the Royal Army, and fought alongside Joan of Arc against the English and their Burgundian allies during the Hundred Years’ War, for which he was appointed Marshal of France.
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joan is also a servant of the ruler class though saber is also an option
“I’ve never played World of Warcraft, but in the Warcraft 3 game it makes you invulnerable for a short (45 seconds) amount of time”
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Invulnerability is still a gameplay mechanic regardless of how you slice it. Similar to several video game characters’ “invulnerability” (which is a gameplay mechanic). The shield still has a limit to its durability outside of gameplay mechanics
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What kind of attacks has the shield taken?
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“He raised a powerful dragon (Sapphiron was level 15 in a campaign where heroes only go up to level 10) back from the dead.”
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Not bad, can he utilize this kind of power on the fly, or does he require prep time.
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I was asking for feats of strength, speed, reactions, durability, destructive capacity, etc though
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As for movement speed, Space Marines can move at 45km/h in brutal terrain (which they are slowed down as such), capable of blitzing and shredding several Imperial Guardsmen in seconds before they can blink or get a chance to react for speed points
“Not bad, can he utilize this kind of power on the fly, or does he require prep time.”
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On the fly and even when severely weakened.
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“I was asking for feats of strength, speed, reactions, durability, destructive capacity, etc though”
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Strength, speed, reaction, are most likely peak human unless I am sorely mistaken.
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No idea about durability, Arthas’ armor has never been shown to tank any kind of attack that I know of. It would help if a World Of Warcraft player would come along, please?
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Destructive capacity is also a mystery to me, there are those who say Arthas knows the Death and Decay spell, but I can’t tell for sure.
Just refer to the list of Death Knight abilities that I put up earlier, specifically to the Death Coil, which I’m sure is not hampered by any armor.
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