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Here we have a huge battle between two universes, I know nothing of Naruto so I will have to wait before I can put any input in…
Who wins?
Full Metal Alchemist Vs Naruto
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You fools Naruto curbstomps why is this here?
fullmetal alchemist was an extremely good anime, however it brings me much sorry saying that this is a stomp and teh narutuz wins…*sigh*
Extreeeeeeeeme stomp for Naruto. The only ones that would POSSIBLY be able to fight would be the homunculi, and even they could be taken out by the low-tier fighters…
“You fools Naruto curbstomps why is this here?”
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Because Tau doesn’t fucking listen.
@envoy
serras victoria nice she needs a match.
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zabuza rapes
the real Madara unleashes the true Susannoo which is on par with the tailed beasts, the Jinchuriki all go tailed beast, hell looks like a vacation destination.
@Admiral Envoy
As of late, ain’t that the truth?
-___-’
Anywho, initial bets are on FMA until things on Side A start being worth teeth-gritting, all of a sudden!
Has everyone already forgotten about Father and Truth?
Not to mention who knows what in the Gates….
@Fatazn
I should hope not, otherwise this match becomes bogus for too many bad reasons to quantify. T_T
@Fatazn
even if they get involved they are outnumbered.
““You fools Naruto curbstomps why is this here?”
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Because Tau doesn’t fucking listen”
-You were the only nay-sayer. Everyone else said “Sounds good!” “Do it!”
To be honest I didn’t think it would get posted at all, because I only suggested it once.
@fallstar thief
I gave Admin a fight featuring Seras Victoria earlier
“Bloodchaos”
vs who, out of curiosity
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@tau
limit it to pre timeskip might be a little more even.
I don’t think its a full blown stompfest but FMA is going to go through hell to say the least.
Falstar’s pre timeskip idea might be a good idea, if only because the psychotically powerful characters aren’t involved.
@GA
Don’t lie the tail beast and Madra stomp the shit out of FMA by themselves.
I’ve only seen the anime and only some of that so I can’t say for certain.
@GA
Even though I hate the series I read so I don’t look ignorant when I make fun of it. They are extremely powerful now Madra and Tail Beast take this with little effort.
I meant the FMA anime is all I’ve seen, real Madara just unleashed his full body Tail Beast proportioned Susannoo
i stoped readiing around the time connan died(returned briefly fot the zabuza chaps)
@GA
Ah well I read the manga for FMA it was awesome but sadly they still stand no chance at all.
@Fallstar
Currently, Itachi is shown that he can stick someone in an infinite mindfuck until they accept their own weaknesses. It has the same consequences ass Izanagi, which that alone pretty much makes them win, but still.
bullets and guns, snipers, tank, would any of these be useful?
@Lowk
against some people yes, against the undead, Zetsu’s, Jinchuriki and a skyscraper sized Susannoo? Not unless their really really big weapons
“against some people yes, against the undead, Zetsu’s, Jinchuriki and a skyscraper sized Susannoo? Not unless their really really big weapons”
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Well aren’t they aware of some big transmutation stuff they could preform by using using the underground as a T.circle? Would that be useful against them? Maybe like a trap.
“@Fallstar
Currently, Itachi is shown that he can stick someone in an infinite mindfuck until they accept their own weaknesses. It has the same consequences ass Izanagi, which that alone pretty much makes them win, but still.”
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Didn’t Itachi die though?
Undead Itachi did it and its an Uchiha technique, basically lets him make someone his destiny bitch so to speak. forced Dragon Sage Mode Kabuto to do whatever he wanted.
However I don’t know if their still around, current incarnation and all
@Lowk
against casual mountain levelers?
“against casual mountain levelers?”
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Transmuting works on both people and objects. I think the one Father had made even affected peoples souls. And the circles can be hidden like underground and can get pretty huge.
I meant on the traps part, I assume you mean like a pit trap right?
hmmmm….ive never actually watched the narutu’z, is it any good?
@wera193
No it’s ass don’t bother reading it. the characters are forgettable and easy to hate the plot got derailed and doesn’t make sense any more.
ah, ok.
I stopped following the Naruto Anime after I started following the manga. Did it really slip that badly King of Games?
“No it’s ass don’t bother reading it. the characters are forgettable and easy to hate the plot got derailed and doesn’t make sense any more.”
this
its ok until the rescue gaara arc finnishes its all downhill from there.
“I meant on the traps part, I assume you mean like a pit trap right?”
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No I mean setting up hidden transmutation circle around hidden like what Marko did(under snow) or like father did for the whole country(underground). You know like with the dangerous stuff. Like turning blood into iron, ripping away flesh, explosions, etc.
What the fuck is this shit? Current incarnation has Naruto destroying FMA with ease. Even if you take composite, RS would just Izanagi or throw a moon at any enemy.
@GA
Yeah I mean I went from saying Naruto isn’t gay to he wants to marry Sasuke so yeah it’s terrible. It also doesn’t help that Sasuke lost all credibility in seeking revenge and the war delaying the crap out of the story for no reason. I can honestly say this manga disappointed me. I thought it was next in line to inherit the will of DBZ but no I was wrong. The only good manga of the HST that’s any good is One Piece in my opinion.
if anyone hasnt seen FMA or FMA:brotherhood, you should, its a really good anime and its on netflix.
netflix?
why
you can watch it on animefreak.tv for free
The only way FMA can win this is if they have a giant transmutation circle being made secretly around the battlefield.
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At most they can make one in a few days, a few hours if practically every alchemist is involved.
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The five crests of blood isn’t hard to make, just have cannon fodder soldiers be stationed in a pentagon arrangement in the battlefield.
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FMA needs to hold on until that happens.
This will be the hard part, but not impossible.
One advantage of FMA over Naruto is carbon-fiber.
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Ed, using his northern-weather automail, managed to withstand Pride’s shadows, which can cut through solid steel.
www.mangareader.net/116-5256-24/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-70.html
www.mangareader.net/116-5273-32/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-87.html
www.mangareader.net/116-5273-33/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-87.html
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The other advantage FMA has are guns, and when I say guns I mean a cannon/bullet barrage against the cannon fodder.
@Lowk
Oh okay, just recently got into the anime so I’ll have a lot of catching up to do.
@KoG and Fallstar
do you mean the anime or manga?
@wera193 and Fallstar
they are also putting it on Toonami right now, Brotherhood at least.
@Hermit
I don’t see that happening with Naruto packing several mountain busters and few town busters.
@GA
Both the anime sucks because of stupid filler that killed Toonami and the manga sucks because of plot and such.
“do you mean the anime or manga?”
manga
anime should be worse due to filler
manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-589-page-1.html
Madara’s Susanoo begs to differ with some arguments.
@Fallstar
I don’t think the manga has gotten that bad, I’m holding hope for it, not a ton but its there. If nothing else we have some Nine Tails Naruto feats.
I just don’t care for Sasuke (then again I hated him from the beginning so maybe thats why I can see a light at the end of the tunnel) I’m just hoping Naruto hurries up and kills the moody little freak.
@GA
Nah Naruto and him are going to get a home in the country side together. I mean they are going to have round three of their fight and then something will happen. They will then have to team up and then I guess one of them will make some sort of sacrifice. All I know is that it will be super cliche.
About the giant transmutation circle, the FMA group could simply sacrifice themselves to Father.
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THEN the curbstomp begins.
www.mangareader.net/116-48371-16/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-105.html
www.mangareader.net/116-51515-27/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-107.html
www.mangareader.net/116-51515-28/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-107.html
www.mangareader.net/116-51515-34/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-107.html
www.mangareader.net/116-51515-35/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-107.html
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They never pierced the barrier.
“I don’t see that happening with Naruto packing several mountain busters and few town busters.”
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They’re what, buidling the damn circle miles underground.
The circle doesn’t even have to cover the entire battlefield.
The can utilize natural circles (like the shadow of the moon during an eclipse) to make the circle.
@Hermit
I said I’m not that familiar with FMA and I had misunderstood what Lowk meant.
This is insta-war correct? Then they die immediately.
@Hermit
If it’s a neutral battle field what’s stopping the Naruto sides top tiers from speed blitzing the FMA side. Hell and Tail Beast could wipe out everyone on the opposing side in one shot.
“If it’s a neutral battle field what’s stopping the Naruto sides top tiers from speed blitzing the FMA side”
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Pride’s Shadows, these things can reach nationwide size provided the area is under Father’s control.
Greed. having nothing that can pierce your skinhelps immensely.
A wall of lead (bullets). They also have tanks (cannon fodder tanks)
Remote transmutation from Xing, who only need one circle and lots of knives to turn the entire battlefield into a deathtrap.
In addition, a transmutation circle can be any circle as long as they got the shape right (heck, they used the shadow of the moon as one).
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“Hell and Tail Beast could wipe out everyone on the opposing side in one shot.”
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Considering Amestris contains 50 million people and Xing and Drachma are bigger that Amestris, I doubt it.
Then you arm everyone with guns.
@Hermit
Top Tier characters can mountain bust so I don’t see a problem there. Does canon fodder matter when we have our own canon fodder? All important Naruto characters are supersonic to low double digits hypersonic so bullets aren’t really a problem. Note that whenever I talk about speed blitzing and curbstomping FMA I mean important people with names since canon fodder doesn’t matter.
“The other advantage FMA has are guns, and when I say guns I mean a cannon/bullet barrage against the cannon fodder.”
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If it doesn’t work on Ishbalan soldiers, doubtfull it should work on ninjas who actualy use stealth.
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“They’re what, buidling the damn circle miles underground.”
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It wasn’t that deep, it was pretty easy to find it under briggs.
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“The can utilize natural circles (like the shadow of the moon during an eclipse) to make the circle.”
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Profz?
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Also links don’t work.
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Ninja armies were able to sense armies under the earth, and earth jutsu’s fuck up the circle.
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Tens of thousands of shapshifting Zetsus, infiltrating the chain of comand to through enemies into disaray and killing unsuspecting targets.
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Not to mention the army of giants. Or the army of zombies that less than ten members of team 1 can actually kill.
@Admiral
You are not alone in feeling that someone has to strangle Sasuke to perma-death, these days.*
1.) (In fact I find Sasuke’s Alagaesian counterpart in Murtagh to be more tolerable overall, but I digress!)
In any case, anything the FMA forces can do to properly fight back?
“Ninja armies were able to sense armies under the earth, and earth jutsu’s fuck up the circle.”
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Ah, I see. Well I got nothing. Stomp Match?
@Iron Lowk
I am starting to fear this!
Meantime, mind heading back to Sephiroth vs Harry Dresden, since the Admiral has an idea to at least allow Dresden to even the odds of his fight against the One-Winged Angel?
Trust me, this might require asking the mods to modify the match a bit!
“Ninja armies were able to sense armies under the earth, and earth jutsu’s fuck up the circle.”
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Haha, no. Pride maintains the shape of the circle. As long as the area is within Father’s control, Pride’s shadows can reach it.
manga.animea.net/full-metal-alchemist-chapter-78-page-17.html
manga.animea.net/full-metal-alchemist-chapter-78-page-18.html
manga.animea.net/full-metal-alchemist-chapter-78-page-19.html
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If the links doesn’t work, check Fullmetal Alchemist Chepter 78, pages 17-19.
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“The can utilize natural circles (like the shadow of the moon during an eclipse) to make the circle.”
manga.animea.net/full-metal-alchemist-chapter-105-page-22.html
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“Tens of thousands of shapshifting Zetsus, infiltrating the chain of comand to through enemies into disaray and killing unsuspecting targets.”
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People from Xing can sense the whatever of a person. Shapeshifting won’t work on them.
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I want to see Guy square off with Bradley.
Bradley is a bullet timer just so you know.
Bradley’s a bullet timer? That’s cool. Guy in base form is supersonic. And don’t even get me started on the eight gates.
As for shadows controlling the circle, Shikamaru’s clan, anyone? Shadow manipulation?
Madara or Naruto could solo at this point. Madara’s Sussano has 91 megaton casual swings, he annihilates them with ease. Naruto has 1.95 Gigaton+ 23Km Bijuu Bomb. Everyone get’s one shotted.
I like how Naruto is now the top in the HST in firepower when it used to be the last.
whatever happened to handdseals in the latest chapters i read ninja could pull of super moves with 1 seal.
compare that to the start where supermmoves took a shit ton of handseals like zabuzas giant water vortex
“I like how Naruto is now the top in the HST in firepower when it used to be the last.”
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Firepower is all they got at the moment. OP is the most rounded and the fastest, while Bleach probably has the most hax.
so yeah, Madara could stomp this with his latest susano but he can also pull 2 meteor’s from space and use them to ccrush everyone on the battle field, like this:
www.mangareader.net/naruto/560/16
I just realized this is current incarnation.
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In that case, Naruto stomps.
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No Father means nobody to use the giant transmutation circle.
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So unless Ed or some other alchemist manages to sacrifice enough souls to know everything there is to know, I don’t see them winning.
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For the record, if someone from FMA can achieve something like omnipotency, then I’ll give them the win.
“Haha, no. Pride maintains the shape of the circle.”
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When there are shadows, earth jutsus could just move large amounts of rock and screw it over from above ground.
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““The can utilize natural circles (like the shadow of the moon during an eclipse) to make the circle.”
manga.animea.net/full-metal-alchemist-chapter-105-page-22.html ”
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He travelled around the country to release souls to do this. Also they’d need at least a month to get the placenment and timing for a completely new moon right.
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“People from Xing can sense the whatever of a person.”
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Less than five characters have shown this ability, furthermore Zetsus also copy spiritual energies. The should be able to make it past anyways, it wouldn’t be the first time.
Also, couldn’t “Madara” just Infinite Tsukiyomi them all if they DID manage to cause an eclipse? Because, you know, he’s kind of trying to do that.
For those of you unaware, “Iinfinite Tsukiyomi” is “Madara”‘s plan to reflect his Mangekyou Sharingan off the moon and use it to mind control everyone and then release the 10-tails to cement his place as the ruler of everything. So… Yeah.
@fallstar theif
Against Crona from Soul Eater
The tailed beasts are pretty much all Naruto has that FMA can’t touch.
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Your rank and file ninjas are going to go down to bolt action and semi-automatic gunfire. Shurikens and kunai can kill but they usually wound. Gunshots are usually fatal. A ninja can sneak up on a rifleman but in a head to head fight the man with the gun is going to win.
Tanks would be impossible to kill without ninpo and difficult to kill with it. Fire alone wouldn’t do more than singe the paint. Sufficient amounts would stall the engine but unless the caster can keep the tank flooded the crew would just restart the engine.
Lighting might short the engine but a solid steel tank makes a mighty fine faraday cage.
Wind could cut the tank in two but it would require a very skilled ninja to do so.
Earth element could bury the tank but it could still be dug out.
Overall, we’re talking jounin levels of skill to kill a tank.
Field artillery firing incendiary loads would be enough to flush most ninja out of hiding.
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Alchemy is far more versatile than Ninpo.
With ninpo you can create a fireball or tidal wave.
With Alchemy you can dig trenches, produce medicine, create artillery, alter the battlefield, disintegrate stone and metal, create fireballs or golems, and heal the injured.
Better yet, Alchemy doesn’t require outstanding physical and spiritual strength, just prolonged study.
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On the front line you’ve got living armor like Alphonse Elric. Without an actual body most attacks would be of no use. Shinobi who have spend years learning how to attack each and every vital point on the human body would find their skills not just useless, but a hinderence as they’d have to fight long ingrained habits as well as deal with a neigh invulnerable foe with unusually fast reactions.
Human-animal chimeras like the ones that followed Greed would make great seek and destroy teams whose enhanced senses and abilities would provide an adequate counter to shinobi infiltrations.
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Top level ninja’s like Kakashi and Gai would have to contend with Homunculi and combat specialized state alchemist with philosopher’s stones. Considering how a philosopher’s stone can boost an alchemists power from grenade launcher to fuel-air bomb grade firepower and that most combat specialized alchemists take little to no time to transmute, it’s likely that a man like Roy Mustang could plausibly defeat a man like Kakashi Hatake.
Lol low tier baritone characters can stomp most fma charachters
Al would get his ass handed to him. Fighting any named ninja.
@Belisaurus
But that still doesn’t mean a damn thing when one man can mind control all of your troops and order them to kill each other. Or Kimimaro can impale them all on bones. Or Gaara can drown them in sand. Sure, the cannon fodder ninjas would be out quickly, but any of the main characters would be able to take large portions of the FMA soldiers out fairly quickly. Now the Alchemists themselves would cause some trouble, especially people like Roy, as you mentioned, who can burn people from the inside out, but when we have things like the Tailed Beasts who’s lowest-level attacks can crush mountains, I don’t know how much that can help them.
“Your rank and file ninjas are going to go down to bolt action and semi-automatic gunfire. Shurikens and kunai can kill but they usually wound. Gunshots are usually fatal. A ninja can sneak up on a rifleman but in a head to head fight the man with the gun is going to win.”
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Nice try but no, this strategy would only work on fodder, any named character has the speed to outrun/dodge bullets.
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“Tanks would be impossible to kill without ninpo and difficult to kill with it. Fire alone wouldn’t do more than singe the paint. Sufficient amounts would stall the engine but unless the caster can keep the tank flooded the crew would just restart the engine.”
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Nice try, but anyone above Mid-Tier can just punch one to bits or throw it back at them.
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“Alchemy is far more versatile than Ninpo.
With ninpo you can create a fireball or tidal wave.
With Alchemy you can dig trenches, produce medicine, create artillery, alter the battlefield, disintegrate stone and metal, create fireballs or golems, and heal the injured.
Better yet, Alchemy doesn’t require outstanding physical and spiritual strength, just prolonged study.”
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Wow, it’s like you don’t know anything at all about Ninjustsu. Averything you just described can be accomplished in some way by Ninjutsu/gentusu/fuinjutsu. That last part you added just seems to be you trying to bog us down with strawmen, not only does it not matter that you don’t need physical strength to perform Alchemy, it makes it worse as they will be fighting a bunch of not even peak humans.
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“On the front line you’ve got living armor like Alphonse Elric. Without an actual body most attacks would be of no use. Shinobi who have spend years learning how to attack each and every vital point on the human body would find their skills not just useless, but a hinderence as they’d have to fight long ingrained habits as well as deal with a neigh invulnerable foe with unusually fast reactions.”
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Yeah no, anyone worth a damn would tear right through a suit of armour.
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“Human-animal chimeras like the ones that followed Greed would make great seek and destroy teams whose enhanced senses and abilities would provide an adequate counter to shinobi infiltrations.”
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Nope, genjutsu operates on all of the five senses, depending on which one it is.
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“Top level ninja’s like Kakashi and Gai would have to contend with Homunculi and combat specialized state alchemist with philosopher’s stones. Considering how a philosopher’s stone can boost an alchemists power from grenade launcher to fuel-air bomb grade firepower and that most combat specialized alchemists take little to no time to transmute, it’s likely that a man like Roy Mustang could plausibly defeat a man like Kakashi Hatake.”
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Lol. First, Gai and Kakashi aren’t “Top level ninja’ they are high-mid maybe low-high for Gai. Second Roy would lose horribly to Kakashi, speedblitz and space-time fuckery stomp fire easily.
“On the front line you’ve got living armor like Alphonse Elric. Without an actual body most attacks would be of no use. Shinobi who have spend years learning how to attack each and every vital point on the human body would find their skills not just useless, but a hinderence as they’d have to fight long ingrained habits as well as deal with a neigh invulnerable foe with unusually fast reactions.”
Right, because Al NEVER had to be rebuilt or suffered horrible damage in a battle, right? One of Naruto’s first Rasengans (like when he and Sasuke fought on the roof of the hospital) would have been enough to rip through him like butter…. Now, Lee could probably kick him and…. Well, actually, he could just kick him. That would probably be it.
“Lol low tier baritone ”
auto-correct damm u this should read low tier naruto characters
@ DarthGrim
When I talk of riflemen, I’m talking fodder vs fodder and in that a rifleman is going to win.
I challenge you to name one chunin level ninja that can smash a tank. Infact, prove that a chunin level ninja can punch through the 7 or so centimeters of steel that you can expect to protect a tank.
While it’s certainly possible to do a great many things with ninpo, we never see this done. Medicines are compounded by hand and the only ninpo equivalent to golems, bushin jutsus, collapse at the drop of a hat. We see ninja that can either build fortifications or create gigantic explosions but rarely do we see ninjas that can do both and we never see them improv a technique on the fly. Finally, I never said it took peak humans to perform ninpo, I said it took outstanding physical and spiritual strength. Why? Because Chakra is created by combining physical and spiritual energy. The ninja must expend his own energy in order to use ninpo techniques and this usage drains his or her reserves. You don’t see most chunin or genin doing many big flashy attacks because it would be exhausting. Naruto is a bad example, he’s got more stamina than most Jounin and was absolutely ripped at 13 (I mean, damn, have you ever seen him without a shit? Freak of nature I tell you).
Sure, Al has taken damage, even lost some limbs, but it’s usually taken alchemic forces such as Gluttony eating pieces of him or Scar using his brother’s arm to disassemble him.
Genjutsu requires that you know where the enemy is. If they have better senses than you do, then they can ambush you before you can put them under. Granted, you could have a sensory specialized nin with you but those seem to be rather rare.
I don’t think Kakashi would be considered for the position of Hokage if he wasn’t a top tier ninja. At the very least he’s the best jounin in konohagakure.
Kakashi might be able to speedblitz Roy if his ninpo didn’t take a few seconds to make hand seals and Roy couldn’t create explosions at a snap of a finger. But that’s another debate. For now, let’s assume that Roy could kill Hatake and Hatake could kill Roy.
Also, does anyone in Naruto besides the Uchihas have any defense from being sniped at 500 meters?
Oh, and watch out for Father, he can control tectonic plate movement.
“Oh, and watch out for Father”
isnt he dead.
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“I challenge you to name one chunin level ninja that can smash a tank.”
choji
kiba
sugetsu
Those three are actually Jonin-level at this point. And technically speaking, Naruto is still a genin.
And actually, Beli, the Hyuuga’s have a 359 degree field of view thanks to the Byakugan, so, yes, they do. And let’s not forget Pain, who is able to create force fields large enough to destroy the entirety of Konohagakure. Also, Itachi was able to put Naruto under a genjutsu just by Naruto glancing at his ring. And as of the beginning of the 4th Great Ninja War, sensory ninjas seem to be with every squad, so they can’t be THAT rare.
“Those three are actually Jonin-level at this point.”
stoped when they were chunnin
since they could do it then my point stands
Why is Beli bringing up things FMA don’t have currently? Since when do we use composite incarnations?
@Lightning
Usually it never hurts to clarify whether or not composite!-stage universes are permitted, but JIC, state that the Composite universes’ in question will have all factions at the height of their power, alright?
Kind of like that major 3-vs-2 universe fight with the Butcher Side(which includes the Dresden Files!) as the 2 we’re planning is going, in fact, where both sides have to be at their sharpest for such a fight!(Or at least the factions available to the Butcher side that they’d opt for, pretty much!)
“He travelled around the country to release souls to do this. Also they’d need at least a month to get the placenment and timing for a completely new moon right.”
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Example much?
That shows they don’t need to manually draw a circle to do a transmutation. They can use a naturally existing one.
Amestris itself is an example. The entire country is a circle.
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“Yeah no, anyone worth a damn would tear right through a suit of armour.”
Depends on the armor.
Northern-weather automail is extremely durable, to the point that it can withstand attacks from Pride’s shadows.
The shadows can cut through steel with ease.
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“Nope, genjutsu operates on all of the five senses, depending on which one it is.”
Does Genjutsu affect every single soul inside a person?
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@ Beli
Sakura is a chunin.
Oh, and Beli,
Father is currently dead.
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I’d give the win to FMA if he’s still alive. But as it stands, without Father, Naruto will win.
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I’d like to see Last Exile go up against Naruto next.
Even with Father, he would still have to fight all 9 tailed beasts, True Susanoo with Madara, “Tobi”, and the 5 Kages, which, if he was able to be beaten by normal humans, I have a hard time believing he could beat all of those.
madara could solo full Alchemist. he is yet to be physically touched by anyoye other than minato and minato is moving at speed of light. susanoo and izanagi and izanami are too much as well and thats not considering things like sharingon, byakugon, ressurection techniques, tailed beats, etc. theres too much.
Thats not even the real Madara that therealbs is talking about, its…..Masked Man/Tobi/Madara/No One.
Hell even Kabuto is a Dragon Sage now, he’s virtualy indestructible, though no one’s all out tried to kill him just yet.
Assuming composite versions even that just makes the massacre worse.
“sharingon, byakugon”
just fixn
sharingan and byakugan
“I challenge you to name one chunin level ninja that can smash a tank. Infact, prove that a chunin level ninja can punch through the 7 or so centimeters of steel that you can expect to protect a tank.”
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Naruto once he gets Rasengan, Sasuke once he gets Chidori, Lee with gates, Sakura with the Strength jutsu. A bunch of Genin and Chunin level ninja. Your move.
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“While it’s certainly possible to do a great many things with ninpo, we never see this done. Medicines are compounded by hand”
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You know there is an entire school of Jutsu that deal with this right? Tsunade is a medic, Sakura is a medic, Ino is a medic.
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“We see ninja that can either build fortifications or create gigantic explosions but rarely do we see ninjas that can do both and we never see them improv a technique on the fly”
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They don’t need to do both because they operate in four man cells. Last part is a strawman by the way, in case anyone was wondering.
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“Finally, I never said it took peak humans to perform ninpo, I said it took outstanding physical and spiritual strength”
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That’s good neither did I. I don’t see how Ninja having to be superhuman is a downside in anyway?
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“Genjutsu requires that you know where the enemy is. If they have better senses than you do, then they can ambush you before you can put them under”
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Good thing most ninja have better senses than normal humans then. Also no, there are Genjutsu that work by sound, if you hear the sound then BAM your under so they don’t really need to care about where you are.
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“I don’t think Kakashi would be considered for the position of Hokage if he wasn’t a top tier ninja. At the very least he’s the best jounin in konohagakure.”
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So? Just because Konoha was weaksauce at the time doesn’t make him top tier. Konoha had literally just lost their two best ninja and nobody likes Danzo, so the only other option was Kakashi. Nice try at leaving out the truth.
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“Kakashi might be able to speedblitz Roy if his ninpo didn’t take a few seconds to make hand seals and Roy couldn’t create explosions at a snap of a finger.”
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Good thing he doesn’t need ninjutsu to own the shit out of him then.
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“Also, does anyone in Naruto besides the Uchihas have any defense from being sniped at 500 meters?”
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Anyone with sufficient durability wouldn’t even notice the bullets. Sufficient durability would probably be around wall level, so pretty much everybody.
““I don’t think Kakashi would be considered for the position of Hokage if he wasn’t a top tier ninja. At the very least he’s the best jounin in konohagakure.””
he was considered because of need. he even stated he wasnt sutible for the job
his reputation along with his fathers also helped with a few council members
“Even with Father, he would still have to fight all 9 tailed beasts, True Susanoo with Madara, “Tobi”, and the 5 Kages, which, if he was able to be beaten by normal humans, I have a hard time believing he could beat all of those.”
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Spamming suns is a good option for beating them.
As is an indestructible barrier that never got pierced in the manga, and was made by a weaker version of Father.
“Spamming suns is a good option for beating them.”
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Proof?
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“As is an indestructible barrier that never got pierced in the manga, and was made by a weaker version of Father.”
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What’s the strongest thing it ever took? Just because it never got penetrated by a verse which is not heavily focused on destruction means almost nothing.
@ Darth
I posted some links in this thread, just look through some of my earlier posts.
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Post 49.
Mini Sun is not an actual sun. if that was an actual sun then it would have collapsed into a black hole or Neutron Star.
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That barrier is Weaksauce to anyone mid-high tier and up.
“That barrier is Weaksauce to anyone mid-high tier and up.”
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There is no way to know that.
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“Mini Sun is not an actual sun. if that was an actual sun then it would have collapsed into a black hole or Neutron Star.”
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Uh, did you look at the next pages? Because Hohenheim clearly stated that that was Nuclear Fusion.
Also, I should have made myself a little clearer, Father would not be making a Sun, he would be making a star. There is only one Sun.
www.mangareader.net/116-48371-17/full-metal-alchemist/chapter-105.html
Nuclear Fusion, that process where all stars get their power?
Nuclear fusion on a small scale does not mean he can create a real star.
“Nuclear fusion on a small scale does not mean he can create a real star.”
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So, what do you call that glowing ball of fire that he, and Hohenheim, clearly stated to be made from nuclear fusion?
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You know, if Father actually succeeded in detonating that thing, the explosion would also affect him.
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