Suggested by Mullet man
The fight takes place on a deserted mountain. Every one is blood lusted and akuma is allowed to transform into Oni and also, the feats kenshiro performed in his movies are allowed here.
Kenshiro comes from the Fist of the North Star series. Akuma comes from the Street Fighter series. And Yujiro Hanma comes from the Baki the Grappler series (both making their debut). Kenshiro already is fighting Shin Akuma in another fight, where I determined Kenshiro wins via speed. But with Oni being a factor (and mostly being non-canon as is), this match is going to be a lot different when debating for a winner. And if Yujiro is in this fight, he has to bring a lot to the table.
Which of these superior fighters will come out victorious?
Ah, awesome, Yujiro finally makes it to FP! Very nice!
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I’ll see if I can find some scans for him later on, but he can stop an earthquake with a punch and he’s at least a bullet timer
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And Akuma already lost to Kenshiro so…..
And Akuma already lost to Kenshiro so…..
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Oni is now taken into consideration. And considering Oni is an uncanon character,he has access to feats Akuma doesn’t.
Wait, so we’re using the Asura’s Wrath version of Akuma now? Pretty sure he’s physically a moon buster, so yeah
The only one I know here would be Hanma.
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The most I can remember of him would be biting a guy who was hitting him with punches and kicks from every possible direction at the same time.
He bit his opponent seemingly without moving.
Maaan, I keep telling myself that I’ma watch Baki one of these days..
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Also, Akuma didn’t really lose to Kenshiro, it was just Chuck being a dick and no body caring to deal with his ridiculousness.
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Oni is not uncannon, and he might even be to Akuma as Devil is to Kazuma, an entity which can actually exit Akuma. Akuma’s Street Fighter x Tekken ending implies he is going to fight Oni, and he doesn’t even seem to believe Oni remotely has a chance, unlike past opponents which he specifically fought because he felt they had potential. He seemed only interested in putting Oni down for the sake of putting him down.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI0TTATvsdc
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This cinematic allows us to treat Oni as a separate character, for his own matches perhaps, but I don’t believe that we should ALLOW Akuma to generate or release him in order to let them double team opponents because that’d be… fucked up..
Also.. WHY NO PAGES?!
Oni is not uncannon, and he might even be to Akuma as Devil is to Kazuma, an entity which can actually exit Akuma. Akuma’s Street Fighter x Tekken ending implies he is going to fight Oni, and he doesn’t even seem to believe Oni remotely has a chance
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Street Fighter X Tekken is also not canon to the Street Fighter story. So no, there is no official Oni for story.
“Street Fighter X Tekken is also not canon to the Street Fighter story. So no, there is no official Oni for story.”
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No it’s not canon, but Capcom wouldn’t make a game where Oni and Akuma can fight if they didn’t have that as being a part of the intended Oni character.
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Oni also has no story in SFxT, for the record, it’s just part of Akuma’s ending. Although I suppose when looking at him it might be the Pandora’s power drawing Oni, because we know Oni kind of represents a loss of control Akuma would probably normally never tolerate, making him a negative side of Akuma’s personality. So I suppose it could be argued that with out Pandora, Oni can’t separate from Akuma. However, Oni’s past appearances imply to me that it might not just be a Pandora Gimmick. We never see Akuma become Oni, Oni appears on his own, does his own things, and in no way acts like Akuma, as he’s given in to the rage and killing intent. He is sadistic where Akuma is simply confident. Oni goes out of his way to attack people, while Akuma ignores anyone who lacks the power to be a threat. I believe the shadow cast line is an excellent description of Akuma. It’s his anger, taking manifest in the form of an actual Oni of myth. In many ways Akuma’s equal, and maybe even greater physically, but never mentally.
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The only reason we know Oni is canon is because he is in Street Fighter 4. I still don’t know where you got the idea that he isn’t canon. There’s never been anything out there to say he isn’t canon. The closest you can get is he came out with Evil Ryu, who should have already been conquered by the events of Street Fighter IV. Unlike Ryu, however, Akuma is intentionally left untouched in almost his entire history after murdering Ryu and Ken’s Master in order to leave him as more of a myth, Oni easily fits right in.
No it’s not canon, but Capcom wouldn’t make a game where Oni and Akuma can fight if they didn’t have that as being a part of the intended Oni character.
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You mean like how Ryu and Akuma fought Asura?
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The only reason we know Oni is canon is because he is in Street Fighter 4. I still don’t know where you got the idea that he isn’t canon. There’s never been anything out there to say he isn’t canon.
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Besides the fact that SF4 timeline is before SF3, who never mentions Oni.
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Oni is an Akuma who has let the Satsui no Hadou fully engulf and consume him. By SF3, he pretty much commands it at will, not letting him absorb it.
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It’s the same thing as Evil Ryu in the Alpha series, just a nice what if with no real bearings to the story.
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Believe me, I’ve been following SF since SF2 in the arcades.
Oh yeah, the SFxT ending wasn’t Oni. It was Pandora taking the form of Oni. Showing him what he could accomplish if he accepts Pandora’s power, but Akuma refusing.
I do believe Kenshiro’s attacks ignore durability. So…
@Lightning
Just as you Blitz your way onto the site once more(Don’t take it the wrong way, its always glorious when you do that!
) it comes down to who hits 1st, right?
“Besides the fact that SF4 timeline is before SF3, who never mentions Oni.”
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I don’t see why SF3 not mentioning a character would render a character noncanon.
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“You mean like how Ryu and Akuma fought Asura?”
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I really don’t have any issue with that.
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“Believe me, I’ve been following SF since SF2 in the arcades.”
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Flat Earthers have been following science for much longer and they’re still wrong. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been following Street Fighter, you simply decided Oni wasn’t canon so now that must be the way it is, but you have no backing. You’ve come to a conclusion with the Pandora but provided absolutely no back up to that conclusion, where as I at least showed my reasoning. I am so far unconvinced. I’m sorry if I’m more swayed by stuff Capcom releases than by your guesses, even if what Capcom releases always puts the story of the franchise well on the back burner.
Yes my fight got posted sweeeeet!!
“Chuck being a dick and no body caring to deal with his ridiculousness.”
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Awe the little street fighter fanboy is mad… To bad you couldn’t defend him on that thread(same with ryu on the ryu vs liu thread) you little shit
Now Bring on the Dante vs Eragon match we might have been asking about, next.
So doesn’t it come down to who hits 1st?
Wow, I like this match, my friend in the university talks alot of shit about Yujiro, he even thinks that Yujiro could beat the Hulk easy, thats alot of bull shit coming from his mouth, because he dislike marvel characters exsept for Spiderman.
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Still this is agreat match, anyway do you people thinks that Link could battle toe to toe or even beat Dante from DMC?
@Pollo
The last question is a toss-up on whether or not Link can, even DivineChaos88 wouldn’t be able to answer it herself if she were here, either way.
But seriously, I smell a bloodbath of a match in here.
“that Link could battle toe to toe or even beat Dante from DMC?”
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Yeah link should be able to give Dante a run for his money. Go suggest it.
“But seriously, I smell a bloodbath of a match in here.”
Yea same here, Im wating for some feats for Yujiro.
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“The last question is a toss-up on whether or not Link can, even DivineChaos88 wouldn’t be able to answer it herself if she were here, either way.”
What does “Toss-up” means?
Sorry is that Im a Ed(Ed Edd N Eddy) and Goku(DBZ) Headed XD my bad.
There is something very wrong with that man’s mouth…
“Yeah link should be able to give Dante a run for his money. Go suggest it.”
I all ready did XD, both of them have averything from there games + no time Stop items XD
@Pollo
There’s a loaded question you just asked.
@Lizard God
Its easier to ask what isn’t wrong with the so-called ‘Inglishman’s’ Mouth, he’s not even Dr. House so he doesn’t even have a proverbal excuse or justification to fall back on, and I’m doubtful he was raised via U.S Marines, either. =_=’
“Awe the little street fighter fanboy is mad… To bad you couldn’t defend him on that thread(same with ryu on the ryu vs liu thread) you little shit”
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If I recall we all got bored with Ryu vs Liu as well, when you were trying to make it out that virtually nothing in Street Fighter is acceptable but everything in Mortal Kombat is. I just rolled my eyes after a while and sat back to let other people have fun with you. I also never participated in Akuma vs Kenshiro, which would mean your statement is incorrect on that level as well. Couldn’t is not the same as didn’t.
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“Still this is agreat match, anyway do you people thinks that Link could battle toe to toe or even beat Dante from DMC?”
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I would prefer to see Link get some down time after the mess of Link vs Carnifex. Been a while since we’ve had a Gundam match, though. Perhaps Master Asia vs Dante would be a better match up.
@Lizard God
I can agree to that, Link should already be ripping the Carniflex a new Asshole via now that even Travis Touchdown(No More Heroes) would agree and praise Link for it, already!
Master Asia vs Dante could be fun, though!
“There is something very wrong with that man’s mouth…”
If you are talking about my friend from my university, so yea, he even said that Naruto or Ichigo could beat Sonic, really Sonic can beat them easy whit his speed and super sonic or archie Sonic, then one day he say that Naruto or Ichigo could beat Sora and Roxas, really, my friend talks alot of bull crap, but still he is my friend after all.
“If I recall we all got bored with Ryu vs Liu as well, when you were trying to make it out that virtually nothing in Street Fighter is acceptable but everything in Mortal Kombat is”
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No actually. Smashing stone and boulders with casual kicks and punches >>>>> smashing one car with multiple hits under 60 seconds….actually
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” though. Perhaps Master Asia vs Dante would be a better match up.”
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Bring the gundam and it’ll be more interesting
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“There is something very wrong with that man’s mouth…”
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You bad mouthed me so I returned the favor
“I can agree to that, Link should already be ripping the Carniflex a new Asshole via now that even Travis Touchdown(No More Heroes) would agree and praise Link for it, already!”
So, you agree that Link have a chance or can beat/kill Dante?
“So, you agree that Link have a chance or can beat/kill Dante?”
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Yes, go suggest it
@Pollo
Truth be told(NOI to Lightning) I’m doubtful Naruto could go head-to-head against a Jurian Knight, let alone Original!-Tenchi Masaki(Tenchi Muyo’s Ryo-Ohki/OVA timeline version!), really.
If Ichigo had to go up against Sonic, common sense says a Rasputinian Demise is what will await Ichigo at Sonic’s hands, really.(His odds would be better against Domon Kasshu from G-Gundam, frankly speaking!Either version of Kagato from Tenchi Muyo is pushing it, since the guy’s on Ganondorf+*Legend of Zelda* level or even above that, I question if Ganondorf could fight Kagato and I’m flat-out doubtful Ichigo could outright get rid of Ganondorf, really!)
Luffy has better odds against Sora than Naruto does as far as trying to not get speed-blitzed is concerned if I need be frank, and even I have the gut hunch to find those odds questionable, at best.
“You bad mouthed me so I returned the favor”
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No. I mean your gravitar. His mouth. It weirds me out.
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“No actually. Smashing stone and boulders with casual kicks and punches >>>>> smashing one car with multiple hits under 60 seconds….actually”
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I’m not going over the match in a different match with you. If I get bored enough I’ll return to that one. Just keep it set on notify if it matters that much to you.
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“Bring the gundam and it’ll be more interesting”
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I don’t think Dante would have a chance against the Gundam. I don’t think Dante even has any weapons which can hurt it. Tank rounds bounce off them like spit balls.
“Luffy has better odds against Sora than Naruto does as far as trying to not get speed-blitzed ”
I Love You(Not homo and not gay) for saying That, yea Sora and Roxas(There both the same person whit same powers and potencial, some goes for Xion) would kill Naruto and Ichigo in less then 3 sec, or it would last some time for Naruto and Ichigo meets there deaths, same goes for Dante and Link
“. His mouth. It weirds me out.”
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Good here’s a better view of it
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“I’m not going over the match in a different match with you. If I get bored enough I’ll return to that one. Just keep it set on notify if it matters that much to you.”
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Cause you know you’ll be fighting a losing battle. Smart man
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“I don’t think Dante would have a chance against the Gundam. I don’t think Dante even has any weapons which can hurt it. Tank rounds bounce off them like spit balls.”
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Dante’s strength could do the trick. If not, he could just use Yamato
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As for this match I say kenshiro owns with the ability to go intangible in all
You are already dead.
“Cause you know you’ll be fighting a losing battle. Smart man”
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I’m still confident Ryu could win, you know.
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“Dante’s strength could do the trick. If not, he could just use Yamato”
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No, Master Asia is already of comparable strength to Dante, which is why I suggested it. The Gundam enhances it.
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“As for this match I say kenshiro owns with the ability to go intangible in all”
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I’d need to see something to make me think spiritual attacks wouldn’t effect him. I’d also need to see stuff on the Baki guy.
I don’t see why SF3 not mentioning a character would render a character noncanon.
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Again, SF3 storyline came after SF4. Akuma is not Oni in that game. Akuma will never be Oni.
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It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been following Street Fighter, you simply decided Oni wasn’t canon so now that must be the way it is, but you have no backing. You’ve come to a conclusion with the Pandora but provided absolutely no back up to that conclusion, where as I at least showed my reasoning.
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Your two reasonings are a video of Pandora opening and Oni showing up and “he is in Street Fighter 4.”
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My reasoning is that Pandora was in the form of Oni, as it has shown capable of doing as seen in King/Marduk’s ending taking the form of Iron King. Not to mention a bunch of endings in that game has no bearings to anything outside that game, like Heihachi/Kuma, Zangief/Rufus or Guile/Abel.
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Add to that Capcom has done this exact thing before with Evil Ryu in Street Fighter Alpha 3. As Evil Ryu is not officially part of the story. He was simply added as a what if character. If you follow Ryu’s story, this is a proven fact as Ryu never fully submitted to the Satsui No Hadou. Too boot, Gouken sealed it during the events of Street Fighter 4. Thus making Evil Ryu in THAT GAME also not canon.
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I am so far unconvinced. I’m sorry if I’m more swayed by stuff Capcom releases than by your guesses, even if what Capcom releases always puts the story of the franchise well on the back burner.
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Then you don’t pay attention because Capcom pretty much confirmed he’s not canon. Oni’s Intro and Oni’s ending (same for ER’s) adds nothing to the story of SF4 like the others. Add to the fact this makes no sense if you seen Akuma’s story in the game as well as the fact that Gouken doesn’t even make a comment about it.
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This is something Capcom has done. Heck, they added Bad Box Art Megaman and Pacman to SFxT. That should be proof enough.
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Flat Earthers have been following science for much longer and they’re still wrong.
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Because they never used science. They only had beliefs with no backings. I, on the other hand, have the backings as seen above.
If Oni counts for this fight does anyone else have volcano+ punches?
“I’m still confident Ryu could win, you know.”
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I’m not surprised, besides you’re the same guy who thinks Godzilla could beat hulk.
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“No, Master Asia is already of comparable strength to Dante, which is why I suggested it. The Gundam enhances it.”
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Yeah, now I remember, master Asia is the same guy who kicks buildings. Well too bad strength doesn’t decide matches. Speed does.
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“I’d need to see something to make me think spiritual attacks wouldn’t effect him.”
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Akuma has to grab him to affect his soul with raging demon. Kenshiro being intangible makes raging demon null
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” I’d also need to see stuff on the Baki guy.”
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He stops earthquakes with a punch and is a bullet timer. I’m pretty sure akuma is the weakest link here
Sadly, but I think Kenshiro takes this. Just too hax.
Akuma comes second, and Yujiro the last.
Anyway, here’s Yujiro “speed feat” although I don’t know if it valid
www.mangahere.com/manga/baki_son_of_ogre/c269/14.html
Some strenght and reaction:
www.mangahere.com/manga/baki_son_of_ogre/c258/11.html
Yet he still have to rely on Xiao Lee to survive Akuma’s punch i believe:
www.mangarush.com/manga/new-grappler-baki/229/p-3
Still as i see it, 1-Kenshiro, second Akuma and last(by far) Yujiro.
So the Ogre finally makes it to Fact Pile to claim himself the strongest.
Too bad he doesn’t know that FP opens the gates to the strongest opponents imaginable.
Should he go up against Master Chief first?
There should be a rule that makes all characters face the Chief as their debut.
“Still as i see it, 1-Kenshiro, second Akuma and last(by far) Yujiro.”
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First it’s kenshiro, second is the ogre and lastly it’s akuma
@Chuck inglish
“First it’s kenshiro, second is the ogre and lastly it’s akuma”
Why? I remember something about Akuma stop meteor and jump into heavens or something like that. Sounds way too much for Yujiro to take.
But of course I know little about Akuma.
“Why? I remember something about Akuma stop meteor and jump into heavens or something like that”
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Non canon. Yujiro stops tectonic plates from shifting with one punch. That’s wayyy more impressive than any of akuma’s strength feats. And he’s also faster than akuma
@Chuck inglish
“Non canon.”
Then Yujiro wins.
Can Yujiro learn Kenshiro technice in the way he learn Xiao Lee, if he see how it work on Akuma first?
“Can Yujiro learn Kenshiro technice in the way he learn Xiao Lee, if he see how it work on Akuma first?”
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Probably could. all I know is yujiro would have some problems getting past kenshiro’s had abilities such as making his head explode with a touch.
@Chuck inglish
“Probably could. all I know is yujiro would have some problems getting past kenshiro’s had abilities such as making his head explode with a touch.”
Well he quicly found a way to fight Xialo Lee and then learn it. It’s count for something. But them again he may have to “feel” it personaly to learn, so…
“It’s count for something. But them again he may have to “feel” it personaly to learn, so…”
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Probably
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Before this reaches the 50 mark I would like to clarify that oni’s feats from SSFIV arcade edition are only usable not the asura wraith ones.
Did i get it right? Yujiro dodged lighting speed attack?
www.mangahere.com/manga/baki_son_of_ogre/c263/7.html
I agree with Chuck an going with Yujiro on this one. He stoped an earthquake with a single punch
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQPxPWtPsRA
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And is stated to know every martial arts technique in the series. Plus if Power Scaling is allowed his son has thrown supersonic punches and Yujiro is his superior in every way thus he should be able to as well.
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Here the technique
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfHhDpLgkyY
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and here his son using it at 5:56 excuse the shitty metal music
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbYeK7YrJtY&feature=fvwrel
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Thus Yujiro should be more then capable of using it as well.
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Also here’s a few compilations of YH feats
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK2ihFwjobc&feature=related
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaOvdu2iJY&feature=relmfu
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Here Yujiro catching a titanium arrow at pointblank range from a 200lbs. It doesn’t show it in this video but after he catches it he snaps it in half between his thumb and index finger
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And here’s some videos of Yujiro fighting in the Vietnam war at 16 with just his barehands.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmjh6gL_vQ&feature=plcp
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XsraTKd_wc&feature=plcp
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Y2O_j0THE&feature=plcp
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5RJpl9qgU&feature=plcp
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNlhRoDwsL0&feature=plcp
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=80FYfPnUu80&feature=plcp
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This video proves how much of a badass Yujiro is
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2cZNMq4hoY&feature=plcp
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Non canon. Yujiro stops tectonic plates from shifting with one punch. That’s wayyy more impressive than any of akuma’s strength feats. And he’s also faster than akuma
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Oni is in this fight, so non-canon feats are applicable. (Same for Kenshiro)
“Oni is in this fight, so non-canon feats are applicable. (Same for Kenshiro)”
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go read post 47 no asura wraith oni feats.
Dio Brando without time freeze should be in this fight
go read post 47 no asura wraith oni feats.
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So you’re telling me that you’re Mullet Man?
“So you’re telling me that you’re Mullet Man?”
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“Yes my fight got posted sweeeeet!!”
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Post #14, Chuck Inglish
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Yup, hes Mullet Man
I’ve seen the same fights being suggested by different people before.
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And if that is the case, why did he decide to request a match as Mullet Man?
“So you’re telling me that you’re Mullet Man?”
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Yes I’m mullet man. I just typed in a random name.
yujiro owns akuma’s weak ass
…I believe the admin needs to put a ruling on this. After all, how can we be sure you are really Mullet man?
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Show a screenshot of the E-mail that shows you requesting this, including date.
“…I believe the admin needs to put a ruling on this. After all, how can we be sure you are really Mullet man?”
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*sigh* here’s another saga of hall monitor bitch boy akumaTH. So what. Now you wanna get another rule made? Besides I have absolutely nothing and I mean NOTHING to lie about
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“Show a screenshot of the E-mail that shows you requesting this, including date.”
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Lol seriously?
*sigh* here’s another saga of hall monitor bitch boy akumaTH. So what. Now you wanna get another rule made? Besides I have absolutely nothing and I mean NOTHING to lie about
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Well, if you are Mullet man, you technically lied about who made the suggestion. And waiting three days to suddenly change the match because Oni has advantages with certain feats. Something you should have noticed because it was said since the original day that the non-canon feats have to be included. Yeah, I can see motive for lying.
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Besides, it prevents matches from being hijacked by people and I’m seeing too many of that recently.
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Lol seriously?
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Yes. There is a “Email yourself a copy?” check box next to the submit button. Easy way to prove certain things like this.
Is this guy serious?
“Well, if you are Mullet man, you technically lied about who made the suggestion”
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I so sorry massa! I just sorry massa! Please don’t beat me.
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“Something you should have noticed because it was said since the original day that the non-canon feats have to be included”
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Yeah too bad I didn’t bother reading your post. I was more concerned about dino balls licker insulting me and responding back to him ASAP than to read your post.
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“Yes. There is a “Email yourself a copy?” check box next to the submit button. Easy way to prove certain things like this.”
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Just checked and nope I don’t have it.
If I recalled what the Marauder noted earlier(I think it was back at War + Kratos vs Kharn, someone may correct me if I’m wrong when he 1st said this), wasn’t Yujiro said to have solo’d both sides of the Vietnam War and drove the U.S out of it by himself at between Ages 16-20, actually?
So who is winning this fight?
@Amm0
No idea, on one hand we have a guy who’s said to have Solo’d the entire ‘Nam war on his own, on another front we have the Martial Arts Counterpart to Wheel of Time’s Rand al’Thor in Kenshiro in here, yet stuck in the middle is Akuma, who embraces the unfiltered Satsu No Hadou on his side.
To say this is gonna take a while might be an understated low-balling of this matter.
Agreed on that,i dont have a person to my monet on.But i wanna say fist of the north star
@Amm0
You got any viable low-balling for how long this showdown will actually take?
So far I got no clue on me.
Well i dont know yujiro but if he solod nam he must be a bullet timer so he could dodge akuma probably Kenshiro can hit pressure points and end people fast. And akuma sank an island and destroyed a boat. So akuma has the power, yujiro probably the speed and kenshiro has the technique so ill give an hour tops
@Amm0
I really think this match-up is pretty much anyone’s game, to be honest.
Now if we can just get a soundtrack from 300: The Movie, for this match-up, it would be best way to describe it.
“So who is winning this fight?”
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It’s a tie between kenshiro and yujiro.
Yujiro was clocked at mach 10 and has stopped an earthquake with a punch. He outclasses akuma in both speed and strength. kenshiro has the whole intangibility thing going for him. So ken probably wins