Brought to you by Jimmie
Dante (Devil May Cry) and Laharl (Disgaea) pair up against Vampire Hunter D and Alucard (Hellsing).
Every one gets all the their gear and this is post-schrodinger Alucard.
The match will take place in the Devil May Cry office.
Team Devil vs Team Vampire – Which side wins?
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That guy was right I’m shocked. Where is this schedule I must look at it.
Ugh this might take awhile…
Okay just finished reading the description and unless anyone on team 1 can soul fuck team 2 stomps because Alucard is omnipresent.
“unless anyone on team 1 can soul fuck team 2 stomps because Alucard is omnipresent.”
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If Laharl doesn’t have soul-fucking, then he’s gonna need something like Balefire or Subtractive Magic to take Alucard out. Considering that those attacks were even debatable in their effectiveness, Laharl better have something big.
This is post schrodinger alucard(the alucard who doesn’t have schrodinger powers)
@Chuck
Post means after so He has Schrodingers powers. If it was Pre-Schrondinger then he wouldn’t have the powers.
It’s the reverse actually, post means after Alucard got his Schrodinger powers.
Oops well I actually meant Pre schrodinger alucard( the one without schrodinger’s powers
This match is unfair I don’t see how Team 1 can win.
The issue here is whether or not anyone has anything to properly harm Laharl.
From what I remember, Disgaea is one of the few series where game-mechanics are actually canon. Such as Laharl summoning a meteor from space and riding it towards his enemy. Along with other planet-busting powers and teleportation
@Cypher
But Alucard can’t die unless you soul fuck him so that’s kind of moot. I mean Laharl will tire out after god knows how long then get eaten or something.
Unless Jimmie decides to change the scenario it stays as post-Schrodinger.
“But Alucard can’t die unless you soul fuck him so that’s kind of moot. I mean Laharl will tire out after god knows how long then get eaten or something.”
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Were using the alucard with the souls. Not the schrodinger powers one
Does Alucard’s supposed omnipresence extend well beyond planetary range or is that a no-limits fallacy?
If the planet’s destroyed and Laharl teleports to another one, does Alucard follow or…?
@Chuck
It’s says Post-Schrondinger so until it’s changed to Pre-Schrondinger we have to use omnipresent can only be killed if soul fucked Alucard.
Alucard is everywhere and nowhere. Just a wave of probability.
@Chuck: So you’re saying you’re Jimmie now?
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From what I remember, Disgaea is one of the few series where game-mechanics are actually canon.
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Really? Dang. All I thought it was about being in Hades and Penguins that explode.
@Cypher
If he teleports that’s BRF and Alucard wins for still being in the area. Also seeing how his works like Schrondingers yes he would be there because he’s everywhere and nowhere.
“It’s says Post-Schrondinger so until it’s changed to Pre-Schrondinger we have to use omnipresent can only be killed if soul fucked Alucard.”
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It was a mistake, I thought post meant before and per meant after. So now I recognize my mistake and corrected it. The new scenario is alucard with souls not the one with schrodinger powers
“@Chuck: So you’re saying you’re Jimmie now?”
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If he is, he’ll have no trouble switching over to the other account and changing the scenario.
“It was a mistake, I thought post meant before and per meant after. So now I recognize my mistake and corrected it. The new scenario is alucard with souls not the one with schrodinger powers”
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But Jimmie was the one who made it.
Why the hell does Chuck have two accounts?
Another question why is Dante even here? I mean Lahark is clearly capable of taking care of this himself so is Dante just here to coattail off Laharl’s victory.
This is start series alucard not end series alucard. The alucard with the souls to be exact
“Another question why is Dante even here? ”
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That’s a silly question, Jimmie made it.
chucks had multiple names, most of any piler i think.
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team 1s pics looks gay while team 2 look awsome
There we go, it took him long enough to actually change the scenario.
either way dante dies like a bitch
“either way dante dies like a bitch”
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Proof, little bitch?
@Jimmie
Well let’s see if Laharl blows up the planet Dante dies, if Alucard Shoots Dante with the Jackal he’ll die, and I’m don’t know how but I’m pretty sure D has some way of killing Dante. So all and all Dante is a non-factor sorry.
Just an fyi, a level 22 character in Disgaea trains with 100 ton underpants on.
Laharl is level 1500. What does he train in?
“if Alucard Shoots Dante with the Jackal he’ll die, ”
or he could literaly turn dante into his bitch with his “sex beam”
“if Alucard Shoots Dante with the Jackal he’ll die,”
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You talk as if Dante can’t dodge bullets without looking. Try again
@Jimmie
Did you miss the if in that sentence? I never said he would get shot I said if he gets shot.
Oh look its another rigged Dante vs Alucard match
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ZZZZZZZZ
what else do you expect from chuck.
What can Vampire Hunter D do? I heard he was broken and had FTL reactions.
I just wanted to see some of laharl feats. I got him another match later on in the week.
“Oh look its another rigged Dante vs Alucard match
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ZZZZZZZZ”
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At least he paid for it this time so we get something out of it…
@Chuck
So you are aware that Laharl is carrying team 1 to victory right? Dante is a pointless addition that adds nothing to the fight.
still need an oponent for Alucard and nrvnqsr chaos ( tsukihime).
“So you are aware that Laharl is carrying team 1 to victory right? Dante is a pointless addition that adds nothing to the fight.”
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Who cares? Dante can hold his own anyway.
@Chuck
It bugs me is all. I mean that’s like Superman and Batman vs Goku and Vegeta. The hell is Batman there for Superman solos before Batman can even blink? It just seems like Dante is here to get a win under his belt.
what can larharl do?
“It just seems like Dante is here to get a win under his belt.”
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*DING!! DING!!! DING!!!!*
According to someone, Hunter D is half lightspeed.
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Vampire Hunter D Vol.4 “Tale of the Dead Town”
Bowing and excusing himself, the physician did an about face. Just above him, there was a flash of silvery light. A bolt of lightning that was about to strike his head was split in half, and the fragments twitched on the ground. Completely oblivious to what had happened, Dr. Tsurugi raced off.
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That was the event. Here is the context. During this point in the story, “D” is in a floating town, so they are not on ground level, and as we know Lightning actually initially starts at Lightspeed, but by passing through particles in the air is decelerated to about 1/3rd the speed of light by the time it hits the ground. Now, at this juncture the town was passing through a canyon where a permanent Electromagnetic Storm is in place, so there is lightning at all times. Under normal conditions, lowest cloud cover is roughly 6000ft above ground. So normally, a bolt of lightning would hit the ground from 6000ft at about 1/3rd lightspeed. The Conditions “D” is in, the Town is roughly 100+ft off ground level, and the Electromagnetic Storm is within the Canyon itself, so that is perhaps 1000ft between it and the ground below, give or take a hundred feet. So the distance between the point of origin of the Lightning Bolt and Dr Tsurugi’s position was anywhere between 900-1100ft at most. Roughly a 1/6th the distance lightning would normally travel. That means that the Lightning in this instance is traveling faster due to the shorter distance and is thus decelerated a whole lot less than would be normal.
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That is why I said the lightning feat for “D” is about 1/2 lightspeed. Given the evidence I could claim more on that, but I was being more practical because the events cannot be definitively proven. Mostly because of translation and because relative distance is not stated. Thus I can only come to conclusions based off height/distance of Real World places and imagery provided by the artwork of Amano Yoshitaka, the events written by Hideyuki Kikuchi and the artwork inspired by them in the creation of the VHD Manga (which is fairly accurate, if only missing certain parts and information that can only be found in the Novels due to their length). In either case, this is about as accurate as anything can get concerning this particular event.
(Source)
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Can someone confirm this to be true or not?
“Unless Jimmie decides to change the scenario it stays as post-Schrodinger.”
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No according to the rules it says that only the admin can change the match or we have to take a vote.
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@AkumaTh- That was in one event. In another event D has moved at lightspeed and slammed into the ground at lightspeed as well.
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“We’re passing the speed of light!” A hoarse voice called from the left hand D extended. “And we’ve got no wind. Brace for impact!” A tiny mouth formed on the palm of his hand. In it appeared a howling blue flame. Space twisted as the tiny mouth inhaled. The left hand vanished. At the same time, D felt a violent impact.” Pg 182 Vampire Hunter D: Volume 16 Tyrant’s Star part 3
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Basically what happened here is that D was caught in a trap that flung him into space then flung him back to earth at the speed of light. He tried to break the trap with Left Hand as usual but was unable to due to there being no air in the spell. So he had to shoulder it.
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What exactly can Laharl do?
“No according to the rules it says that only the admin can change the match or we have to take a vote.”
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A new rule was actually added. It says that the suggester is allowed to modify a scenario as long he does it within the first 50 comments.
Refer to here: www.factpile.com/7700-daken-vs-solid-snake/ to see more details concerning the rule in the match’s description.
“Who cares? Dante can hold his own anyway.”
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Based off what I’ve seen Dante is a dead duck with zero chance of survival here.
lol, Dante is the weakest combatant here by a longshot
Ok so according to that all of Chuck’s matches take place in Dante’s shop. That means Laharl is in close range. So D can clear the floor and cut him in half depending on how tough Laharl is and how fast his reaction speed is.
Well technically Jimmie and Chuck aren’t counted as the same people.
“Based off what I’ve seen Dante is a dead duck with zero chance of survival here”
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QS and and alastor gives Dante a fighting chance, but it doesn’t matte anyways since Laharl solos
Lets see a FTL fighter that can lifewipe and destroy planets in seconds and is in a universe of magical beings where everyone can punch 100% real ghosts to death as the weakest form of soul killing.
Nothing can go wrong here.
“So D can clear the floor and cut him in half depending on how tough Laharl is and how fast his reaction speed is.”Can D cut planets in half?
” D cut planets in half?”
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Lol, no he can only cut diamonds
“Can D cut planets in half?”
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Didn’t realize Laharl was as thick as a planet. Besides that what is tht supposed to mean. Laharl is as tough as dirt? Rock? Hardened Carbon? Soft metals? Post some feats for Laharl so we know your talking about.
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“QS and and alastor gives Dante a fighting chance, but it doesn’t matte anyways since Laharl solos”
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It really doesn’t. Dante is dead before he can do anything. He’s way to slow and can’t take not one blow from D.
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“Well technically Jimmie and Chuck aren’t counted as the same people.”
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He already admitted they are one and the same.
I’ll put it in simpler terms. Chuck and Jimmie aren’t the same accounts.
“Post some feats for Laharl so we know your talking about.”Blowing up planets while he’s on them and receiving no damage.
“It really doesn’t. Dante is dead before he can do anything. He’s way to slow and can’t take not one blow from D.”
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Hmm so now D is FTL in movement speed? HA! *blankstare* no. I wonder if you got a quote for that ,Midnite
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Something tells me one has to be a nutcase to underestimate either D or Laharl, in here.
Wow…only reason why Dante and Alucard can suddenly duke it out* is because Laharl and D are too busy fighting each other.
1.) (Provided Dante’s not already getting slain 1st!)
“Hmm so now D is FTL in movement speed? HA! *blankstare* no. I wonder if you got a ”
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So Dante is faster then light now? Never realized that. You got any numbers that prove this?
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““Post some feats for Laharl so we know your talking about.”Blowing up planets while he’s on them and receiving no damage.”
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D can still cut him though. D can alter reality around himself and his blade. D can also tank being slammed at FTL speeds and over 50 million degrees in heat. Thus he should be able to survive whatever Laharl throw at him.
“I’ll put it in simpler terms. Chuck and Jimmie aren’t the same accounts.”
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This is stupid but ok.
I don’t see how D and Alucard don’t take this. Can anyone explain to me why Team 2 can’t hurt Laharl? Has he shown tanking beyond their abilities to break through or get around? If so, could you be specific please?
@Lizard God(Riding said Lizard)
Either way you gotta admit, it is somewhat better than the other of today’s matches, right?
It just leads to confuse when someone has several accounts.
@Sorrow
And not for very legitimately good reasons either, right?
I’m assuming D doesn’t have a defense against a times stop
If Disgaea’s game-mechanics are actually canon, then this is a few of Laharls feat:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhcVWbWErIM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhd8cSeDqjE
If Al in post schrodinger state he will still win(but it will take hell a lot of time, because he’s level in Disgaea’s will be somewere 100-250, at max i think, and such lowelevels have next to zero chances to damage Laharl, if i recall right). If not, Then Laharl solo.
Also too put D’s ability to cut in better terms he has shown the ability to cut through artificially engineered Ancient Ancestor metal which count Braujou had crafted into a spear.
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“The swipe D made with his blade in midair was fearsome; a heartbeat later, the spears apparently metal shaft had been severed a foot and a half from the end and was sailing through the air. D’s left hand rose, and a black glint screamed through the air to pierce the base of the giant’s throat with unerring accuracy.”-Vampire Hunter D Volume 16 part 1 pg 14.
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Now for the durability of said spear.
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“The walls were closing on them from the front and back. The long spear was bent to its limits. The ever-shrinking confines of the hastily constructed shack-cum-black-hole must have put hundreds of trillions of tons of pressure on either end of the weapon. Both this trap and the spear were mind boggling.” Vampire Hunter D Volume 16 part 2 pg 146
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So basically unless Laharl has the durability to withstand a fucking black hole he’s getting cut.
“I’m assuming D doesn’t have a defense against a times stop”
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Then you assume wrong.
“Then you assume wrong.”
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Proof is required. For you to call me wrong
@CC
I’ll never get the reason behind making multiple accounts.
Redrum it’s all depend that level and stat grow will have D in Disgaea. He can launch even black hole attack on Laharl, but unless he have any stat close to Laharl’s he won’t even damage him, at all. On the other side if D can count as,let’s say a 3000 level character, then he can kill Laharl even with his regular attack. I truly know little about D, so i don’t know how to count him right.
So Vampire Hunter D vs Futurama as a universe fight has potential?
In the meantime, who has the edge thus far and has this fight be theirs to lose?
D or Laharl?
@Sorrow
Unless you’re under assassination warrants or suspect you might be, I wouldn’t recommend something like this, personally.
Not sure which wants to make me throw up in my mouth more… VampD wank, or Laharl wank….
“It was a odd piece of geography. A mile and a quarter in diameter at the base and roughly sixty or so feat high, it looked like any ordinary hill from both the ground and the air. Those who set foot on its slopes with an aim to reach the summit would find that it took several hours to do so no matter how great they were at hiking. Black ruins rose from the summit of the hill. That’s where the men were headed. However, that simple goal, glowering down at the surrounding landscape from a scant altitude of sixty feat, was not unlike the mirages that were said to occur in the Frontier’s desert regions-it taunted these men as they tried to reach it, and would do the same to anyone else who excepted the challenge. The distance never decreased. Their feet clearly trod the slope, and their bodies told them they were steadily gaining elevation. And yet, the further the reaches of the incline and the ruins they sought never got any closer. Taking the accounts of all who’d experienced the phenomenon into consideration, it was estimated to take a man in prime condition thirty minutes to climb three feet.” Vampire Huner: D Raiser of The Gails pg 3-4
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Also what Midnite Marauder said in another thread
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“D’s world are uneffected by chrono manipulation. In fact they use it in many of there dark science/sorcery. Products of that is the Time Bewitching ?Incense. Vampire discovered they are not effected by time manipulation but they are effected by the effects of that manipulation this the TBI changes night to day and vice versa allowing vampires to walk under sunlight while under it effect. Has nothing to do with the debate at hand but whatever. D is not effected by Time “
“Redrum it’s all depend that level and stat grow will have D in Disgaea. He can launch even black hole attack on Laharl, but unless he have any stat close to Laharl’s he won’t even damage him, at all. On the other side if D can count as,let’s say a 3000 level character, then he can kill Laharl even with his regular attack. I truly know little about D, so i don’t know how to count him right.”
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This makes no sense. So because D and Alucard does not have a Disgea Power level they cannot fight Laharl?
RedruM, if game-mechanics are canon for Disgaea, that sadly it.
Didn’t finish the above quote
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“And just how did you know that. Come to think of it, when did you get here, anyway? Could it be you can walk up the hill like normal could it?”Vampire Hunter D: Raiser of The Gales pg 13
“RedruM, if game-mechanics are canon for Disgaea, that sadly it.”
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According to the rules its neutral environment and everything works as it should so D
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“Certain combatants may or may not have inherent restrictions or other unique conditions for their demise. Examples of this are Superman’s weakness to Kryptonite, and Sauron’s Ring of Power being unmade only by the elements that made it (Mount Doom). In these situations, certain elements may be compatible with similar items from other franchises/universes. However, said exclusive elements will be made available in the neutral arena. See rules number “9″ and “10″ for details regarding No Limit elements and compatibility between these.”
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Thus power levels are unnecessary.
“So Vampire Hunter D vs Futurama as a universe fight has potential?”
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No it does not.
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I’ve still yet to see anything worthwhile at all of Laharl. He has a meteor attack big whoop.
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“Redrum it’s all depend that level and stat grow will have D in Disgaea. He can launch even black hole attack on Laharl, but unless he have any stat close to Laharl’s he won’t even damage him, at all. On the other side if D can count as,let’s say a 3000 level character, then he can kill Laharl even with his regular attack. I truly know little about D, so i don’t know how to count him right.”
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Lol no, that’s not how this works. That’d be like if I said only someone with a power level of whatever could kill Goku, even though they have better feats. Black hole level attacks murder Laharl like the pussy he sounds like.
ReDruM, then how at which level of damage you will put this attack(Dark Liberation) in compare to D attack(above or below to put it simple) and also if D can survive such attack:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhd8cSeDqjE
Just so i can get the idea of D power.
Darthgrim, so win for Team 2 then?
Oh, for more Laharl feats also i found this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z9cu4rBnlQ
“ReDruM, then how at which level of damage you will put this attack(Dark Liberation) in compare to D attack(above or below to put it simple) and also if D can survive such attack:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhd8cSeDqjE
Just so i can get the idea of D power.”
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D doesn’t fight like that. D cuts shit, throws shit at shit, or absorbs energy attacks and throws them back. His key ability is to do things he should be able to. For example his sword is made out of simple steel yet is able to cut through things like diamond and metal that can withstand the pressure of a black hole aka he alters reality a bit. Nothing so major as turning oxygen to chocolate but certain things about himself or direct contact with opponents like turning of healing factors.
I don’t know. Speaking from my experience in this thread, all 86 posts of it. I would say team 2. Because I don’t know who Laharl is and all I have seen for feats is a meteor and claims of planet busting. Given He seems to have no speed feats I would say 1/2 lightspeed D should take it.
ReDrum, that I get and understand about his fight-style. I was ask about how Seven Sins or Dark Liberation can compare to D attack in terms of power in your opinion. Because if Laharl can withstand an attack he can kill D in counterattack(sorry for grammar, I not at home so can’t watch for this).
I also intrested if D can survive Seven Sins from Laharl.
Dartgrim, that is that i dislike in canon for games. It’s almost impossible to get the idea for character’s speed. But so far I am agree with about speed, unless someone prove otherwise.
Oh, can we count Laharl jump to meteor(in attack) as a speed feat? Or count this as a teleport feat?
“ReDrum, that I get and understand about his fight-style. I was ask about how Seven Sins or Dark Liberation can compare to D attack in terms of power in your opinion. Because if Laharl can withstand an attack he can kill D in counterattack(sorry for grammar, I not at home so can’t watch for this).
I also intrested if D can survive Seven Sins from Laharl.”
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I wouldn’t know because no numbers are given. We know D can cut through substances that can resist a black hole so that is beyond planet busting. However I can’t tell what those attacks do since its an 8bit video game. Do you have any actual numbers for us to compare? Without those I can’t tell you if those attacks will kill D. D has survived heat surpassing that of the sun since according to google the sun is 28,259,540.3. D has survived 50,000,000 Fahrenheit without even sweating. D has survived being slammed into the ground at FTL speeds. He can survive in space since the cold doesn’t effect him, he doesn’t need to breathe, and he doesn’t need to eat.
Quick thought, how heavy would you guys say the thing D was in + D + whatever is?
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Assuming 100kg then it makes the feat just over a gigaton on impact. 200Kg then it’s 2.1 gigatons. 1 metric ton makes it 10 gigatons.
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How damaged was he after tanking this?
When I said beyond planet busting I meant he can cut through objects that can resist planet busting attacks.
“How damaged was he after tanking this?”
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Not damaged at all actually. As for his weight I think that’s about right. D according to pics in this book is about 2 heads taller then a female and the average female is about 5’3-5’8 so I’d say he’s about 6’1 or 6’2. Thus average weight for him would be about 168lbs.
oops mean’t 178lbs
Okay so now we know that D can tank 1 gigaton directly into his arm or whatever hit the ground first.
“Why the hell does Chuck have two accounts?”
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He’s got like a billion accounts.
So even though this match was rigged for Alucard to lose he still has a chance of winning? Is that sad or really awesome?