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Here we have Ragnar Blackmane (Warhammer 40K) making his debut on FactPile up against 3 time Hall of Fame winner Wolverine from Marvel.
I know that anything Warhammer powered is pretty strong – but so is Wolverine.
Who would win?
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Im going to go ahead and say Wolverine wins in the long run seeing as the 40K guy has no way to nullify his regen or has no soul raping weaponry to my knowledge
Wolverine kills him….Eventually.
Wait a minute, my research says that Ragnar has psyker powers. If my research is correct, then its possible he could win via BFRing Wolverine into the warp or soul raping Wolverine
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Not entirely certain tho
Oh and btw, why does Wolverine look like Kenpachi Zaraki?
This is a stomp match. Ragnar isn’t even particularly powerful for a Space Marine, at least not in the higher-echelons, and Wolverine is from Marvel which is the single most overpowered universe in the whole history of overpowered universes, give or take a few. Wolverine wins, with ease.
On second thought I take my statement on Post #3 back (for now), appears I misread the Lexicanum page about psyker powers which I unintentionally took out of context (the page said that Space Wolves used psyker powers against the Thousand Sons), oops =S
Didn’t Ragnar kill an Ork warlord by himself. While I don’ tknow Warhammer very well, that seems like a pretty good feat.
“Oh and btw, why does Wolverine look like Kenpachi Zaraki?”
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Because they’re both manly?
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Wolverine definitely wins this. Even if it takes him like two weeks.
What weapons does Ragnar have on him, exactly? I recall a big back and forth in Samus vs Logan and that was because of Samus’ flash-vaporization weapons and seemingly unscratchable armor. Would Ragnar have any of these to help his case?
“What weapons does Ragnar have on him, exactly?”
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Ragnar has a Bolt Pistol and Frostblade.
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He has reflexes faster than those of average marines, but I still don’t see how he can beat Wolverine, pretty sure none of his weapons can defeat Marvel Adamantium.
Weulp, unless part of Ragnar’s repetoir is to turn into a certain space dragon and can toss Wolvie into a Star, I don’t see how he can win this.
That certain space dragon was also capable of flash-vaporizing. I love that universe…
On topic, Logan has this due to superior durability and endurance.
Well shite. This was kinda a waste of a match.
….*sighs*
So I take it that the pistol and blade are incapable of breaking adamantium? What does the blade do? There has to be SOMETHING that gives Ragnar an edge. Strength difference, speed advantage, intellect, anything.
See, he can have all of that, but he has nothing to put Wolverine down permanently, eventually he’ll tire and die.
^Which won’t help against Wolvie’s goddamn regen.
Good Wolverine matches are hard to come by these days… It’s either Wolverine stomps due to superior regen and durability, or the other person stomps by being a super powered being beyond any of Wolverine’s capabilities, or they possess sould fuckery…
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On topic, Wolverine stomps.
Well I tried. So much for that…
*soul
Anyway, is there anything this Ragnar Blackmane guy has that could make this match more interesting?
“Good Wolverine matches are hard to come by these days… It’s either Wolverine stomps due to superior regen and durability,”
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Wolverine never stomps. He gets stomps and just waits until his oponenent is tired so basically he’s a punching bag. Hell even batman can put him down with some pressure points attacks that’ll put him in a coma. (Damn I wish that thread wasn’t locked)
I’m thinking about suggesting Recently Fed Galactus vs the Ben 10 Universe with everything at their full powers. Does that one have any merit?
Would that include the Alien X race that can alter anything within time and space with but a thought and hand gesture?
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But must also get a majority vote among the separate personalities, and have almost no actual feats? Yes, them too.
Well Ben being the “Reason” aspect was just a special case in my opinion. Dr. Paradox feared them because if they caught him within several thousand lightyears of their space, they could unmake him. A race that does nothing but think seems unimpressive, I agree that there aren’t many feats. But given how the personalities of Anger, Passion and Reason could actually agree under extreme circumstances, I think they can be a threat when they want to be.
“I’m thinking about suggesting Recently Fed Galactus vs the Ben 10 Universe with everything at their full powers. Does that one have any merit?”None at all.
@Zolanius
True. Its just that I hate when people introduce supposedly God-Like beings of incredible power, but never show them use it. While I understand the use of not showing too much of a good thing; Alien X just seems like a “Blah-deh-bleh, Plot Device that we hype up intensely but will never show you, but continue to advertise so you keep watching the show.” type of tease. I can’t stand that kind of stuff. If Alien X can erase a universe with a thought, that’s the kind of shit I want to see! Don’t hype me up and then donkey punch me with “He fixed a Dam.” Hell, Twilight Sparkle can fix a dam!
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@Laharl
Awww.
“Anyway, is there anything this Ragnar Blackmane guy has that could make this match more interesting?”
Its a weird one really. Ragnar is stronger, faster, has more experience (not something wolvie loses out on often) and frankly can be far more bestial. However, his advantages in each of those spots pales in comparison to Wolverines advantages in Endurance and close quarters weapons. That said, I don’t think Ragnar is going to lose this due to exhaustion. Its not like it’ll take much for him to hogtie wolverine, he just needs to do it in such a way that Logan can’t use his claws to escape.
Bind the wrists and forearms and jobs over. Wolverine can be knocked out by blunt force trauma, and a Frost blade swinging two-handed into your temple’ll do that handily.
No deaths, advantage Ragnar.
“I’m thinking about suggesting Recently Fed Galactus vs the Ben 10 Universe with everything at their full powers. Does that one have any merit?”
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Does Galactus have the Ultimate Nulifier?
@Darthgrim
I didn’t originally plan to include it no. It kinda depends on what the general consensus on Alien X’s race’s powers are, and if they can effectively fight galactus. If not, no Nullifier; if so, then He’ll have it.
All I was getting at was that when you put an entire universe in a battle, there will omnipotents. The thing with Alien X is that they are deciders. Ben’s Aggression personality wanted to bring back the dinosaurs, and they had about 80 million other topics. So power-wise, they can make anything happen.
I don’t like omnipotents as a tool for debate either, but I’m just making a point.
Ben 10 universe vs Digimon.
Ben10 vs digimon?
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Well, this is how you could decide that one….
Which is better, space ships capable of intergalactic travel? (If my Ben10 knowledge is correct)
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or
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varying sizes of creatures from a digital world.
Because most of Ben10′s infantry arent giant and die easily…
Ben Ten does need a match. Not sure if thats the best intro match though
You’ve got the Sovereigns and Devas from Tamers, as well as the Mega-Biomerged Forms of the Main Cast’s digimon. Then there is the D-Reaper and Yggdrasil. And Diaboromon, Omnimon, and the rest of the Champion/Ultimate types.
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But mostly Diaboromon because he was friggin awesome in his movie.
Yeah, digimon has a lot of powerhouses not saying Ben Ten doesn’t but theres more than one of any digimon
@GuardianAngel1911
What about alien x?
diagon
doctor paradox
asmuth sword
I counted those under Ben Tens power houses.
@GuardianAngel1911
But can those power houses beat digimon power houses?
I have no idea if they could or couldn’t
Hm, depends if Paradox’s time travel/translation through space powers carry over to the digital world. Diaboromon can make potentially infinite copies of himself, and the Sovreigns have some pretty mean firepower. So do the Devas; the horse one’s Horn of Desolation did some pretty good damage I think, and Vikaralamon (Pig Deva) was invulnerable to every attack besides the Yuggoth program.
and there’s more than one Diaboromon if the later seasons of the show are correct, if I recall they showed a couple more of him so multiple Digimon capable of infinitely multiplying and causing massive damage.
I suggested this so here’s One of Ragnars feats
Ragnar was one of the few, if not the only, Space Wolves to completely bypass the rank of Grey Hunter, being elevated from a Blood Claw straight to the rank of Wolf Guard in Berek Thunderfist’s entourage. This incredably rare feat was achieved after Ragnar single-handedly killed Ork Warlord Borzag Khan and his entire retinue in close combat
Scmeh.
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Here’s teh Omnimon from the first Digimon Movie: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9LLiNPW3w4&feature=related
Omnimon could probably do a lot of damage on his own.
and lest we forget Dark WarGreymon.
Given time, Wolverine will eventually win in the same way he’s tanked it through most matches here on the Pile.
This is the first match I’ve seen get this off topic, even though someone posted a legitimate way for Ragnar to win.
What’s it take in this case to merit a BFR?
“Its a weird one really. Ragnar is stronger, faster, has more experience (not something wolvie loses out on often) and frankly can be far more bestial. However, his advantages in each of those spots pales in comparison to Wolverines advantages in Endurance and close quarters weapons. That said, I don’t think Ragnar is going to lose this due to exhaustion. Its not like it’ll take much for him to hogtie wolverine, he just needs to do it in such a way that Logan can’t use his claws to escape.”
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Considering how strong and fast Wolverine is, that isn’t going to happen.
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Here, he lifts an elevator full of people.
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He can jump ridiculously high.
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Here’s a speed feat.
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Wolverine takes this handily. There’s literally nothing Ragnar can do to actually kill him, and subduing him is extremely difficult.
Stealth Ranger and Private Khaos are the same person.
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Just saying.
“Stealth Ranger and Private Khaos are the same person.”
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they’re both trolls who never debate on FP just bandwagon whichever side that’s winning
“they’re both trolls who never debate on FP just bandwagon whichever side that’s winning”
Pretty much, and they’re both the same person.
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Stealth joined Interstellar Wars Forums a long time ago (a site run by Commander Cross which I’m a global mod at), a little while after he joined he changed his name to Private Khaos.
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I don’t know why he needs 2 accounts here…..
@Enzee
How’s that place doing?
Doesn’t every space marine a knife with a molecule cutting edge?
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Couldn’t he just cut through adamantium?
“Stealth Ranger and Private Khaos are the same person.”
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they’re both trolls who never debate on FP just bandwagon whichever side that’s winning
Hey I don’t even know who stealth ranger is, plus I joined factpile 2 months ago. Im still don’t know all the rules of factpile yet. Plus I try not to troll online. If Im trolling tell me what I’m doing and I’ll just stop.
“Doesn’t every space marine a knife with a molecule cutting edge?
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Couldn’t he just cut through adamantium?”
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Marvel Adamantium is pretty much indestructible. The only way to destroy it is to alter it’s molecular structure.
@Envoy
They do, buuut Marvel Adamantium is Hayaaax in its durability.
“How’s that place doing?”
Ghost town as usual.
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“Hey I don’t even know who stealth ranger is, plus I joined factpile 2 months ago. Im still don’t know all the rules of factpile yet. Plus I try not to troll online. If Im trolling tell me what I’m doing and I’ll just stop.”
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interstellarwars.warsforum.com/t231-kratos-vs-skarbrand
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interstellarwars.warsforum.com/t256-dante-vs-kratos
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interstellarwars.warsforum.com/t232-cloud-link-and-sora-vs-dante-kratos-and-ryu-hayabusa
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Yeah…..I’m not buying that.
It looks like his name is Overlord Khaos there, not Private Khaos…
@Itchyness
That’s only on one thread.
@Itchyness
My bad, he changed it one last time. He was Stealth, Private, and Overlord.
Initial bets are on Wolverine in there, it may be a Badass fight going on, but its Wolverine’s fight to lose until further notice hits.
Marvel Adamantium is probably the most haxtastic metal in common usage in fictional universes. As armor it can tank supernovas, as a blade it’s got some sort of molecular vibrating property that essentially makes it a power weapon. Wolverine’s is even more hax since it can regen itself if it does get damaged, though it’s kind of a moot point since anyone capable of destroying adamantium is at least on the skyfather level.
“hough it’s kind of a moot point since anyone capable of destroying adamantium is at least on the skyfather level.”
adamantium is capable of being destroyed.
i can think of 1 or two street level charachters that can do it
@NKB
Care to list them?
Hmm…Ed Single-D with an Adamantium sword!
@cross
“Care to list them?”
ryougi shiki and tohno shiki
@NKB
Due to the MeODP auto-kill power, right?
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How cute, Negative accuses me of being a sockpuppet, then again he does like to start flame wars. There could be more than one Private Khaos over the internets you know
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Anyways like has been said (and I said on Post #1), eventually Wolverine wins the same way hes won most of his matches here, via his regeneration and adamantium skeleton
“ryougi shiki and tohno shiki”
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Lancer could kill Wolverine
“Lancer could kill Wolverine”
wich are you referencing
f/sn lancer only negates regen on heart shots
f/z lancer its any wound
wolverine couldnt even hurt lancer as he is a herioc spirit
Err both I guess
“How cute, Negative accuses me of being a sockpuppet, then again he does like to start flame wars.”
Not trying to start a flame war, you jump to conclusions far too quickly. Just simply pointing out something that doesn’t make much sense (like needing 2 active accounts on a website). But hey, if you want more then 1 account then do wahtever.
*whatever
Ah, but me and Khaos aren’t the same person
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I just took up that name because it looked cool, but then changed it to Overlord Khaos later on because Overlord looked cooler
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And you jumped in and accused me of being a sockpuppet so yeah
“‘Err both I guess”
depends if gea bolg can find a wat to his heart if so hes screwed
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rider turns him into a statue
This guy’s cannon/gun. What’s it’s best damage feat?
“This guy’s cannon/gun. What’s it’s best damage feat?”
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Well bolt rounds pop peoples apart like wet sacks:
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“’I'll never forget the noise,’ he said. ‘It was like a thunderstorm had suddenly sprung into existence, and our first five ranks were completely cut down, dead to a man without even the time to scream. The enemy’s bolts tore limbs from bodies or simply burst men apart like wet sacks. I turned to shout something, I forget what exactly, when I felt a searing pain in the back of my head and I fell over the remains of a man who’d had his entire left side blown off. It looked like he’d exploded from the inside out.”
Tales of Heresy, p.353 – The Last Church
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They’re also basically rapid firing RPG launchers
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They could damage Wolverine, but they won’t kill him in the long run
“Ah, but me and Khaos aren’t the same person”
I have more proof to support my claim then you do to support yours.
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“And you jumped in and accused me of being a sockpuppet so yeah”
Just wondering why you need 2 accounts is all.
They may not destroy him, but they sure sound like they can BFR him to me. Since it’s a rapid fire he can hit Wolervine into the air with the first. And with the others keep hitting him higher and higher til he’s BFRed……right?
“I have more proof to support my claim then you do to support yours.”
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If you think so, why don’t you ask Mata seeing as he can detect scokpuppets and stuff
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“They may not destroy him, but they sure sound like they can BFR him to me.”
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Wolverine’s regeneration is fairly inconsistent (he can be severly wounded by bullets to regenerating from a nuclear-esque explosion with ease)
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Kinda doubting Ragnar’s BFR-ing here
@Stealth but what about the air pressure? From that scan you posted about guys being blown up and stuff sounds like the actual impact is pretty intense. So he could push Wolverine up with it and then blast him away. Or he could lift him off the ground with a sword slash and then blast
“I have more proof to support my claim then you do to support yours”
it is possible for more than one person to use a name.
example ive seen negative zero used on other forums
Well yes his bolt rounds could damage Wolverine, problem is, due to his skeleton and his regen, Ragnars bolter won’t keep him down (as in Logan can regen from the bolt rounds) and the bolter has limited ammo, which means Ragnar will at one point lose his range advantage and be forced to fight Logan in CQC in which he’ll eventually lose because of Logans regeneration and Logan has taken worse attacks (Hulk, Juggernaut)
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Long story short, Ragnar can’t keep Logan down, which is why I dislike Wolverine being in vs debates
But I don’t mean blast down. I mean blast him skyhigh. Like this
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7erLu1YfJg
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Wolverine may not die, but wouldn’t he be BFRed eventually?
“example ive seen negative zero used on other forums”
Such as?
“Wolverine’s regeneration is fairly inconsistent (he can be severly wounded by bullets to regenerating from a nuclear-esque explosion with ease)”
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That depends on the writer really, some writers just didn’t like Logan and had him punked but things that shouldn’t have been of detriment to him. Same with characters like Thor, Hulk and Lobo.
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Current and more recent feats include the nuke blast and WWH beating him up.
“Such as?”
www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-legacy-discussion/57811-mercurial-greatsword-3.html
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Link’s broken I…..never mind
“That depends on the writer really, some writers just didn’t like Logan and had him punked but things that shouldn’t have been of detriment to him. Same with characters like Thor, Hulk and Lobo.”
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Meh, according to my Wolverine visual dictionary he takes damage from things like exploding cars, headshots, etc and it takes him a little while to regen and the Hiroshima Bomb kept him down for a little while (can’t provide anything as I don’t have it on me atm
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“That depends on the writer really”
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Heh, I notice a similarity between 40K and Marvel here
So guys……..could Wolverine get BFRed by the bolts?
““Such as?”
www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-legacy-discussion/57811-mercurial-greatsword-3.html
post #36″
Whoa…definitely not me. But holy shit that is one old ass comment lol.
……guys
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@DReager
Unlikely.
How come?
They could if we go with Wolverines weaker depictions but, meh
I know Wolverine can’t die, but why wouldn’t he be carried away by the bolts? Or if Ragnar used all of his power to slash Wolverine upwards. You guys saying Wolverine wouldn’t be launched into the air?
Thirty Round Magazine=Just not enough Bolts to come even close to high enough.
And the adamantium skeleton=Wolverine being heavy as fuck.
Oh, it’s not unlimited ammo? Never mind. I guess Wolverine does stomp, I’m not one for stomps so bye guys
Nah, not a stomp, a stomp is when a combatant loses in short order imm
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This battle (like vs Kharn) just goes on for ages like with most Wolverine matches where the opponent goes on for ages but loses inevitably because he can’t kill Logan. Theres got to be a word for it. Gah!