Suggested By Commander Cross
Here we have Super Dementio from Super Paper Mario going up against Overlord Zetta, who is new to the site!
Who wins from the two?
Super Dementio Vs Overlord Zetta
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You seriously suggested this?
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Zetta is planetary and as such gets stomped if Super Dimentio is multiversal
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Shameful, I would have debutted Zetta against Dark Schneider or Pyron. Oh well
Were these characters made while their creators were high/drunk/sleepwalking?
“Were these characters made while their creators were high/drunk/sleepwalking?”
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Whats that supposed to mean? I for one think Overlord Zetta looks awesome :pek
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As for Zettas powers include super strength (Class 20 beings can go FTL in 100+ ton boxers and Zetta is way more powerful), FTL speed, planet+ level durability, telekinesis, flight, energy projection (can easily planet bust) and teleporatation
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In his book form he has reality warping/wish granting and time travel
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There’s probably more, but since I have to go soon, I’ll check his OBD respect thread later on
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Not that it matters since its an obvious spite thread
Not so much a spite thread as a Spur of the moment thread.
I feel this is a moot point though, rushed match on my part is rushed. T_T’ (feels urged to facepalm over the footshooting!)
@Everyone else barring the 1st and 3rd posts:
Why do I feel so unfocused and off-balance, lately?
How does Dimentio win?
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His powers aren’t exactly destructive, the only real thing he has is durability through invincibility.
Zetta feat. Badass Overdrive!!!!!!!!!(I even like it better then beam):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLkcdsfGT_0&feature=related
Zetta Beam:
Oh, by the way is it just Zetta or Zetta in his Sacred Tome State in this fight?
@Rookie
Depends…what will help make sure the match is a legitimately fair fight for both sides in here to prevent a stomp-fest in either side’s favor?
@Commander Cross
Sacred Tome Zetta supposedly can take Dr.Strange in his prime…
But from that i know for sure about him in that state he can time travel, change past, restore any life, and erase someone with just a wish(although i never understand how last thing work).
Dimentio ROFLstomps.
For shame cross,..
And OMFG Hitman learn to spell DIMENTIO.
@Captain Xeno D.
I shot myself in the foot!!! T_T’
I thought I managed to get a grip on the rushed matches…don’t tell me I have been slipping in suggestions lately!
Anything I can do to make the match a fair fight for both sides, I’ll do it if asked, just know that I’ll be fetching the Bolter to shoot myself in the foot in a literal sense, alright?
@Commander Cross
“Anything I can do to make the match a fair fight for both sides”
Then tell me, will be hurt by something from this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fJ1qZRLW74&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WMJQnkdlwk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBL5TMw2BPE&feature=fvwrel
If not, where is not much to discuss in my opinion, because base Zetta can be hurt by this, and ST Zetta too broken to say for sure.
Also I would like a few Super Dementio feats if someone could provide them, since i dont’t know much about him/her/it.
“Then tell me, will be hurt by something from this:”
Ops, i mean
will Dementio be hurt by something from this:
How about if Super Dimentio stomps this match(albeit honestly unintentional as it is!) otherwise, Zetta will be in his most Powerful form, as well?
@Commander Cross
“Zetta will be in his most Powerful form, as well?”
I don’t how to judje it))… I mean Zetta broken in terms of power in ST state(he can simply wish in theory and his opponent dissapear), but because he….well dumb(i mean he can simply wish his body back, but he didn’t do it because he never think about! Or he could travel back in time and prevent the crisis! Instead he created Hell after Hell, dimension after dimension….), I don’t know how to tell the outcome, and besides i still waiting Dementio feats, or there i could find them.
By the way how do you suggest battle? Could you please tell in detail, since I am a little confuse about it(got in mind match between Szass Tam and Archimonde)/
Dimentio is spelled wrong.
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With that in mind, Super Dimentio babyshakes. He’s easily the most powerful character in the entire Super Mario series.
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He has the Chaos Heart, which allows it’s user to destory existence itself, and then reshape it to how the user see’s fit.
Like I said, spite thread
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Zetta loses. Sad as I was going to debut him against Pyron a Green Lantern or Dark Schneider
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Oh well
How’s this a spite thread and not another mismatched stomp?
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Also, at glance on what you put up with him, I don’t think he’d be a good match-up for Darsh, he seems like he’d be stomped.
Hmm, multiversal guy who can reshape existance at will vs guy whos planetary-star system at best?
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And Cross came up with this idea and he knows that I like Zetta
@StealthRanger
“Dark Schneider”
Base Zetta may have superior speed over Darsh, hell he maybe even more powerfull, since in D4 he is known as the strongest Overlord.
But how he going tp put Schneider down for good? From that i remember Dark restore from almost everything. KO, maybe, i even vote for him, but killing Dark? I don’t believe in that.
Seeing as Darsh can regenerate unless you destroy him on all 3 levels of existence simultaneously….
“albeit honestly unintentional as it is!”
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Bullshit
@StealthRanger
“Hmm, multiversal guy who can reshape existance at will vs guy whos planetary-star system at best?”
ST Zetta? You seems to forget that in that state Zetta returning equal damage he take to the enemy.
Still i don’t see how he is going erase Dark. I mean if Zetta truly can erase everyone, then why he had such a hard time against Baal?
“Like I said, spite thread”
Lol, why the fuck are you, of all people, complaining about a spite match.
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“And Cross came up with this idea and he knows that I like Zetta”
You knew Cross liked Harry Potter……
“Lol, why the fuck are you, of all people, complaining about a spite match.”
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Because this one is the most blatantly obvious (multiversal guy vs planetary guy)
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Plus Cross purposely suggested this to troll me
$15 also says that Cross also suggested Asura and Yasha vs Megatron to troll me
“Because this one is the most blatantly obvious (multiversal guy vs planetary guy)”
Pfffffffttttttttttthahahahahahahahahaha, and you never made suggestion after suggestion of somebody you like vs somebody so obviously below them that it was rediculous?
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“Plus Cross purposely suggested this to troll me”
Pot, meet kettle.
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Now you can go ahead and say I’m “trollbaiting” you now, or whatever new word the OBD is using, but all I’m saying is that you have absolutely no room to bitch about spite matches.
“Pfffffffttttttttttthahahahahahahahahaha, and you never made suggestion after suggestion of somebody you like vs somebody so obviously below them that it was rediculous?”
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Other than Bass vs Darsh and Space Marine vs Harry Potter?
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Not really
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And I don’t think you’re in any place to talk about that either
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“Pot, meet kettle.”
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Hey, you don’t see me crying on a thread to get it locked because my favorite character loses now do you?
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“but all I’m saying is that you have absolutely no room to bitch about spite matches.”
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And neither do you given your antics on Sephiroth vs Dresden
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My $15 is still saying Cross also went ahead with his Asura and Yasha vs Megatron idea to troll me yet again
“Other than Bass vs Darsh and Space Marine vs Harry Potter?”
Almost all of your Megatron suggestions and now all your suggestions for your new character obsession (this “Old One Eye” crab thing). Probably many more suggestions I haven’t read either.
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“And I don’t think you’re in any place to talk about that either”
I’ve only had 1 single match posted for the last many months (Weeping Angels vs Boos), so please, just keep talking.
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“Hey, you don’t see me crying on a thread to get it locked because my favorite character loses now do you?”
I do see it, right now. Albeit you haven’t cried “LOCK NOA!!!!” yet, but you’re still basically bitching. Dry those tears.
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“And neither do you given your antics on Sephiroth vs Dresden”
That was one fucking post. In case you’re like, legit illiterate, you would have seen me debating in the thread last night.
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“My $15 is still saying Cross also went ahead with his Asura and Yasha vs Megatron idea to troll me yet again”
$15 says I don’t care.
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Anyway, maybe you shouldn’t have started it with Cross with your little Harry Potter vs Space Marine match, also you still occasionally rub Harry’s so-called “epic losing streak” in Cross’ face like some kind of autistic jock. Then you wonder why Cross retaliates with matches like this? Hu-larious.
As has been said already, Dimmsdale pwns.
I’ll go with Zetta. I haven’t seen anything special from Dimentio in this respect thread I am reading and the videos I am watching.
Proto, go back and read a couple of the comments on this page. The chaos heart lets you pretty much bitchslap all reality into unexistence, then grab some play-do and remake it. And Super Dimples here has the chaos heart. Zetta be gone, baybee.
@Bard:
“Proto, go back and read a couple of the comments on this page. The chaos heart lets you pretty much bitchslap all reality into unexistence, then grab some play-do and remake it. And Super Dimples here has the chaos heart. Zetta be gone, baybee.”
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I haven’t seen Dimention’s character act that way. I haven’t seen him make people cease to exist, either. I’ve seen him place squares around unexpecting opponents, and I’ve seen his super form, which isn’t even remotely impressive.
IIRC, couldn’t Super Dimentio tank the collapse or destructions of the multiverse because his invulnerability was made, created, or something to survive or tank multiverse buster so he can recreate the multiverse? It has been a long time so I probably need to see a walkthrough if I have time.
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Though if we go by current incarnation, wouldn’t Super D have lost his invulnerability due to some deux ex machina?
papermario.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Heart
First two sentences:
“The Chaos Heart is a legendary force created by Count Bleck. It is a heart-shaped object in the Dark Prognosticus that controls The Void, effectively ending the universe. “
If anyone feels there’s anything I can do to make the match a legitimately fair fight for both sides, warn me now while you have the chance, alright?
@Bard.:
That’s great and all, but The Void takes a lot of time, and from your source it says the Chaos Heart can be destroyed by defeating the wielder.
Just how “invulnerable” does the Chaos Heart make SD? We don’t want to commit an NLF. If it is absolute and complete invulnerability, then would that constitute the Pure Hearts being placed in here?
Yes, defeating the wielder would destroy it, but you’d need something akin to the pure hearts to make it to where the opponent can actually touch the heart’s weilder.
I don’t know how invulnerable it makes him aelfinn. I’m sure that he’s not 100% unkillable.
“That’s great and all, but The Void takes a lot of time, and from your source it says the Chaos Heart can be destroyed by defeating the wielder.”
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And they can only manage to do it when Super D loses his invulnerability. Notably the pure hearts counter the invulnerability.
@Bard.:
“Yes, defeating the wielder would destroy it, but you’d need something akin to the pure hearts to make it to where the opponent can actually touch the heart’s weilder.”
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Only when Dimentio was Super Dimentio. The only thing we see used against Super Dimentio in battle, aside from the Pure Hearts to remove his invincibility, is Mario stepping on him. If anyone wants, they can find out how many joules Mario’s jump attack produces.
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@Alpha or Omega:
“And they can only manage to do it when Super D loses his invulnerability. Notably the pure hearts counter the invulnerability.”
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That doesn’t matter, since Luigi is his own person. I don’t know how Dimentio would become Super Dimentio without Luigi. And Luigi isn’t a summon, so that doesn’t help him.
“Just how “invulnerable” does the Chaos Heart make SD? We don’t want to commit an NLF. If it is absolute and complete invulnerability, then would that constitute the Pure Hearts being placed in here?”
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The Chaos hearts only made him invulnerable enough to survive the collapse or desturction of the multiverse.
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“That’s great and all, but The Void takes a lot of time, and from your source it says the Chaos Heart can be destroyed by defeating the wielder.”
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDfH6SzQuk&feature=player_detailpage#t=523s
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Dimentio has shown to store his shadow. When he dies, his shadow comes out and continues the chaos hearts progress. The only way to counter this is this.
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“That doesn’t matter, since Luigi is his own person. I don’t know how Dimentio would become Super Dimentio without Luigi. And Luigi isn’t a summon, so that doesn’t help him.”
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Except this battle says “Super Dimentio vs Overlord Zetta.” And the only way to have Super Dimentio is to have Luigi with Dimentio. Unless you just want to have Dimentio which kinda contradicts this battle.
Then again, I’m not sure how it works, but would the current incarnation rule give Dimentio without his invulnerability? Just wondering.
@Alpha or Omega:
“The Chaos hearts only made him invulnerable enough to survive the collapse or desturction of the multiverse.”
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Please prove this.
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“Dimentio has shown to store his shadow. When he dies, his shadow comes out and continues the chaos hearts progress. The only way to counter this is this.”
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I’m aware of the power of his shadow. However, as Blumiere says, “It won’t last long…but it may be enough to ensure the end of every world…” So if Zetta defeats Dimentio, it really won’t matter if Dimentio leaves the power of his shadow, considering The Void takes a long time to do its intended purpose.
@Alpha or Omega:
“Except this battle says “Super Dimentio vs Overlord Zetta.” And the only way to have Super Dimentio is to have Luigi with Dimentio. Unless you just want to have Dimentio which kinda contradicts this battle.”
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Does that mean Zetta gets help from someone else?
You just went full retard. You never go full retard.
If there’s a match with a megazord VS iron giant, that automatically means that the giant gets multi-colored copies of itself to help out, doesn’t it, proto?
@Bard.:
“You just went full retard. You never go full retard.
If there’s a match with a megazord VS iron giant, that automatically means that the giant gets multi-colored copies of itself to help out, doesn’t it, proto?”
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I see your point.
Also, a quote from the game itself
Dimentio: “Now the Chaos Heart is mine! I will use it to destroy all words…and create perfect new ones! So, shall we get started? Now I have all I need…to become the king of all worlds!”
How do you propose he recreates the worlds if he dies from the universal destruction?
“Please prove this.”
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDfH6SzQuk&feature=player_detailpage#t=128s
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The third time they talk, they say this to Mario+Friends,
“Let it begin with you, as you wallow in helplessness like upside down turtles.”
Meaning that the destruction of the multiverse was going to begin in that dimension, showing that Super Dimentio could survive the destruction of the multiverse, but not Mario and his friends.
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“I’m aware of the power of his shadow. However, as Blumiere says, “It won’t last long…but it may be enough to ensure the end of every world…” So if Zetta defeats Dimentio, it really won’t matter if Dimentio leaves the power of his shadow, considering The Void takes a long time to do its intended purpose.”
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Alright, I’ll concede this.
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“Does that mean Zetta gets help from someone else?”
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Well I’m saying is that it is two vs one, I mean in order to have Super Dimentio, you need Luigi+Dimentio+Chaos Hearts
And if he wanted to, dimentio could go to dimension D and wait until zetta died of old age. xD
“And if he wanted to, dimentio could go to dimension
D and wait until zetta died of old age. xD”
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Actually, that would count as self battle field removal.
No battlefield specified = no ring outs, right?
“No battlefield specified = no ring outs, right?”
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Err, depends.
@Bard.:
“How do you propose he recreates the worlds if he dies from the universal destruction?”
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He sets it up in some other dimension, that is, the one he is in where Mario and Co. are.
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@Alpha or Omega:
“Meaning that the destruction of the multiverse was going to begin in that dimension, showing that Super Dimentio could survive the destruction of the multiverse, but not Mario and his friends.”
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Except, after he said this, he and Mario were still in some other location. He doesn’t succeed in destroying all worlds.
“Except, after he said this, he and Mario were still in some other location.”
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???
Can you show me where I’ve missed this?
They were in the same room, hence the door to the far left. Unless you were referring to the purple void he made earlier. It only made his transformation and added blocks.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=etAgUQc1A0I&feature=player_detailpage#t=102s
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“He doesn’t succeed in destroying all worlds.”
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After Mario and friends stopped him, yes.
@Alpha or Omega:
“???
Can you show me where I’ve missed this?”
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You posted it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDfH6SzQuk&feature=player_detailpage#t=128s
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“They were in the same room, hence the door to the far left. Unless you were referring to the purple void he made earlier. It only made his transformation and added blocks.”
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I wasn’t referring to the purple void he used to suck in Luigi and become his other form. I’m talking about after he says, “Ah ha ha ha. I am now invincible! There is nothing you can do! L-POWER!”
You posted it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDfH6SzQuk&feature=player_detailpage#t=128s
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Are you referring to 4:25? Nothing changed after that, except the positions of the characters.(Mario left, Dimentio right?) The position is always character on the right and Dimentio on the left due to the fact that they made the cutscene like that. They didn’t take account of where the player was going to be after how much time passes.
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“I wasn’t referring to the purple void he used to suck in Luigi and become his other form. I’m talking about after he says, “Ah ha ha ha. I am now invincible! There is nothing you can do! L-POWER!”
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The room doesn’t change. Only cutscene does.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDfH6SzQuk
Using above as reference.
After the first battle,when he says L-Power, he was referring to the destruction of the multiverse.
They were in the same room though in this second video here. This is the same battle, just played differently, since the above link showed that the player didn’t go all the way left.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=etAgUQc1A0I
At 1:42, you can see the door, which means you’re still in Count Bleck’s Room. The same room where you were facing Count Bleck, Dimentio(with invulnerability), and the 2nd time without invulnerability.
“The position is always character on the right and Dimentio on the left due to the fact that they made the cutscene like that.”
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Meant character on the left and Dimentio on the right.
@Alpha or Omega:
“Are you referring to 4:25? Nothing changed after that, except the positions of the characters.(Mario left, Dimentio right?) The position is always character on the right and Dimentio on the left due to the fact that they made the cutscene like that. They didn’t take account of where the player was going to be after how much time passes.”
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No. I was referring to the thing about SD saying “L-POWER!” That’s when the destruction began. SD and Mario weren’t affected by this. Neither was Blumiere and the others.
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“After the first battle,when he says L-Power, he was referring to the destruction of the multiverse.”
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I know, meaning he wasn’t caught in the destruction. The point is, SD never shows multiversal durability.
“That’s when the destruction began. SD and Mario weren’t affected by this.”
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That’s because the universe/dimension Mario and SD wasn’t destroyed yet. Also, other universes were almost destroyed hence being. Also, just because Dimentio was going to destroy the one Mario was in first doesn’t mean that it is completed instantly.
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“Neither was Blumiere and the others.”
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They were put into a dimension Dimentio made. He was also going to destroy them later he said.
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“I know, meaning he wasn’t caught in the destruction. The point is, SD never shows multiversal durability.”
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While he never showed it, the fact that he was going to stay and see Mario and friends die along with the collapse of the multiverse showed that he can wait and stay for the destruction of the universe. When he lost his invulnerability that he continued fighting Mario and slowly continued the destruction(or halted it), so he can regain his invulnerability after the battle.(If he won.) It wasn’t until he died that the shadow continued the destruction.
“Also, other universes were almost destroyed hence being”
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hence the other universe living when Mario and Friends stopped the chaos heart with the pure hearts.
“That’s when the destruction began. SD and Mario weren’t affected by this.”
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Also, other people weren’t affected by it. Every universe was being destroyed hence each of them being wavy and blurry. Heck, even the one Mario was on was affected.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jnx_zU3LMQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=160s
Only the universes were being affected, this cutscene show that the people were not affected, other than making them in panic or accepting defeat.
@Alpha or Omega:
You do realize that you haven’t proved Dimentio has multiversal durability, do you not? Having control of the Chaos Heart, I see it no less reasonable to think Dimentio wasn’t going to be affected by the destruction, not because he is multiversally durable, but because he has control over what he is destroying.
Ugh, Is it okay that I start to counter (or try to) your posts you’re gonna make after this post tomorrow? I have a busy day tomorrow and I need some sleep.
“You do realize that you haven’t proved Dimentio has multiversal durability, do you not? Having control of the Chaos Heart, I see it no less reasonable to think Dimentio wasn’t going to be affected by the destruction, not because he is multiversally durable, but because he has control over what he is destroying.”
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Ugh, Okay, I concede.
@Alpha or Omega:
“Ugh, Is it okay that I start to counter (or try to) your posts you’re gonna make after this post tomorrow? I have a busy day tomorrow and I need some sleep.”
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Take your time. I’m in no hurry, and I should hope you don’t feel rushed.
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“Ugh, Okay, I concede.”
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Don’t sweat it, Alpha or Omega. We’re cool, you and I.
So wait, why can’t he set the chaos heart off in universe A (with zetta in it) then go chillax in universe B without zetta?
@Bard.:
“So wait, why can’t he set the chaos heart off in universe A (with zetta in it) then go chillax in universe B without zetta?”
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He would be outside of the battlefield.
The battlefield wasn’t specified, so there is no ‘outside of the battlefield’
“Almost all of your Megatron suggestions and now all your suggestions for your new character obsession (this “Old One Eye” crab thing). Probably many more suggestions I haven’t read either.”
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I only have one Megatron match actually posted, because it was actually a fair match
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And I only have one Old One Eye match idea against Dante
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“I’ve only had 1 single match posted for the last many months (Weeping Angels vs Boos), so please, just keep talking.”
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I meant overall smartass, Lara vs Link, Daleks vs DragonBall Z and im pretty sure Harry Potter vs Dimentio counts too
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“Albeit you haven’t cried “LOCK NOA!!!!” yet”
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Or bringing up this topic in every single thread thats irrelevant to it, or getting Megatraptor to tell everyone to not take Cross seriously, or incessantly bitching to admin
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Did I miss something?
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“That was one fucking post”
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Orly? What about your “this doesn’t help your claim of it not being a spite thread” post because I asked how Dresden would overcome Sephiroth’s speed advantage
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Or the “>doesn’t deny it being a spite thread” post?
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“$15 says I don’t care.”
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I wasn’t talking to you when I said that
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“also you still occasionally rub Harry’s so-called “epic losing streak” in Cross’ face like some kind of autistic jock”
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Not my fault Potter sucks so much he’s lost every match he’s ever been in
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Anyways back to the topic at hand…. can someone recap the arguments?
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Also im pretty sure that going to another universe/dimension would be leaving the arena, kind of like was argued in Lorgar vs Starrk
Oh and as for ST form Zetta vs Darsh and his reality warping BFRing Darsh, Darsh is immune to hax powers with his dispel bound
“Harry Potter vs Dimentio counts too”
Nope.
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“Orly? What about your “this doesn’t help your claim of it not being a spite thread” post because I asked how Dresden would overcome Sephiroth’s speed advantage
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Or the “>doesn’t deny it being a spite thread” post?”
Ok, 3 fucking posts, nothing changes really.
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“Not my fault Potter sucks so much he’s lost every match he’s ever been in”
Subjective.
I’ll concede the whole Super D has multiverse destroying durability.
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Post 66 is most likely the better idea of how he can avoid being killed when destroying universes.
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At this point, Zetta probably takes this.
“At this point, Zetta probably takes this.”
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Well Zetta is an FTL casual planet buster…..
Oh and in his book form Zetta has reality warping/wish granting powers. How well does Dimentio fare against reality warping and from Zetta fucking around with him that way?
Pure hearts = chaos hearts
It’s the only way to null the invincibility so….
Multiversal durability without being massively weakened maybe?
@Bard.:
“The battlefield wasn’t specified, so there is no ‘outside of the battlefield’”
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Is it Dimentio’s character to do this?
@Proto-Mind
“Is it Dimentio’s character to do this?”
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“8. Plot Shields
These are more commonly known as Plot Induced Stupidity (PIS) and Character Induced Stupidity (CIS), and have varying degrees of relevance to FactPile battles.
CIS is known to be restrictions, limits, and/or tenets inherently held by a combatant as an integral part of his/her persona. These generally stand, but are lifted if they prevent the combatant from reaching victory as explained in rule number “7″.”
It doesn’t matter if it’s in his character to do it. He can do it, that’s all that matters.
@Bard.:
“It doesn’t matter if it’s in his character to do it. He can do it, that’s all that matters.”
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It should matter, as he is always choosing to fight his opponent, rather than running off. He killed Mario and Co. by blowing them up, sending them to Underwhere. I don’t see why his CIS would be removed here.
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If Dimentio was like Batman or Superman, two characters who do not kill, and if it was required for one to kill the other, I could see the CIS being stripped away. But Dimentio isn’t like that, so Rule 8 is irrelevant.
I presented a scenario where Dimentio would undeniably win. Yes, it was slightly out of character, but he would win without a doubt, so CIS is ignored. Dimmy wins.
/thread
@Bard.:
“I presented a scenario where Dimentio would undeniably win. Yes, it was slightly out of character, but he would win without a doubt, so CIS is ignored. Dimmy wins.
/thread”
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CIS was ignored for your interpretation to work, but that is hardly evidence that Dimentio wins.
CIS is supposed to be ignored, retard.
For the record, the first time Dimentio is fought, the very first thing he does is warps to Dimension D.
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Also, it’s the Chaos Heart that protected Dimentio from the destruction of existence.
@Bard.:
“CIS is supposed to be ignored, retard.”
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Where does it say in the rules?
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@Negative Zero:
“For the record, the first time Dimentio is fought, the very first thing he does is warps to Dimension D.”
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Yes, but he doesn’t leave his opponents there during battle.
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“Also, it’s the Chaos Heart that protected Dimentio from the destruction of existence.”
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Proof, please?
“CIS is known to be restrictions, limits, and/or tenets inherently held by a combatant as an integral part of his/her persona. These generally stand, but are lifted if they prevent the combatant from reaching victory as explained in rule number “7″.”
“These generally stand, but are lifted if they prevent the combatant from reaching victory”
“lifted if they prevent the combatant from reaching victory”
“lifted… victory”
Now tell me, has it been dumbed down enough?
“Yes, but he doesn’t leave his opponents there during battle.”
Pretty sure he dumped O’Chunks, Mimi, and that girl with the clipboard (can remember the name) into Dimension D for a while near the end of SPM.
@Bard.:
“Now tell me, has it been dumbed down enough?”
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It amuses me to see someone so roused about a silly discussion. This has already been addressed, and you never addressed what I had said before. Instead, you applied what you would do in that situation. But you are not Dimentio.
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The only reason you regard Dimentio as being unable to reach victory is because you acknowledge that Dimentio has nothing impressive on his resumé. If this was the case for all battles, all you would need, for example, is Superman to fly to the Sun and remain there until his opponent, Metallo, was dead.
@Negative Zero:
“Pretty sure he dumped O’Chunks, Mimi, and that girl with the clipboard (can remember the name) into Dimension D for a while near the end of SPM.”
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He did, but he wasn’t in a battle with them, and he needed Mario’s help to defeat Blumiere. In fact, he was going to kill Blumiere, but Nastasia took the hit instead.
@Negative Zero:
That is actually a good one, though, I’ll grant you that. So it’s not totally out of character, but I still submit that Dimentio is one to fight before anything else.
Ah, Nastasi was her name.
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“He did, but he wasn’t in a battle with them”
Why should that matter. He clearly reconized them as a potential threat. You don’t have to fight a guy to think he could be a potential threat.
@Negative Zero:
“Why should that matter. He clearly reconized them as a potential threat. You don’t have to fight a guy to think he could be a potential threat.”
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It should matter because Dimentio couldn’t do it on his own. Is there some extenuating circumstance for why Dimentio could not remove Blumiere on his own and needed Mario and Co. to help him, if all he needed to do was send them to another dimension and lock them away?
Umm, I don’t know if it important but here’s Zetta durability and ST durability. As i understand it ST survived extincion of the dimension. Zetta body(as reveal later) too, but ha actually was afraid of death. So can we assume that Zetta have same durability in his ST state? And will it matter at all?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VceqYerVw4s
And that happend right after that incident:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-3j5E01Ds&feature=relmfu
And prove that Zetta body survived that:
@Rookie:
May you provide the seconds and minutes for these videos, that way the information can be extracted without spending too much time?
@Proto-Mind
“May you provide the seconds and minutes for these videos, that way the information can be extracted without spending too much time?”
Yup, sorry that i didn’t think about it earlier.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VceqYerVw4s
6:49 and further
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PBKbdF1D60
3:10 and further
All right, so even if Dimentio did remain in some other dimension and waited for the Chaos Heart to destroy everything, Zetta wouldn’t be defeated?
@Proto-Mind
“All right, so even if Dimentio did remain in some other dimension and waited for the Chaos Heart to destroy everything, Zetta wouldn’t be defeated?”
I dont know. That’s why i asked about it.
@Proto-Mind
“All right, so even if Dimentio did remain in some other dimension and waited for the Chaos Heart to destroy everything, Zetta wouldn’t be defeated?”
Wait, remane? Zetta(in ST state) just transport himself to him using wish(or using time travel).