Here we have Pit from the Kid Icarus series going up against Hall Of Fame winner Kratos!
For this battle both fighters have all equipment and Pit doesn’t have any access to any vehicles.
The battle will take place at the Colosseum.
Who wins?
Pit Vs Kratos
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Good enough.
That should be ft./hr.
….Still….Good enough?
Why is Pit getting slower as this thread goes on and Kratos getting stronger? This seems bizarre as if this match is getting turned to Kratos favor.
@Your Majesty
I have no idea at all.
All I know is that if Pit can maintain his distance(and I believe that he can) anything Kratos can do becomes a moot point if it can’t hit him in time.
“Why is Pit getting slower as this thread goes on and Kratos getting stronger? This seems bizarre as if this match is getting turned to Kratos favor.”
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Still doesn’t matter, the blade’s width is ten foot long and Kratos isn’t big enough to wield the blade, and only has the strength when he needs both strength and size. If he was God Kratos, I would concede.
That and Pit still has slip-shot.
@The King of Heroes:
“Why is Pit getting slower as this thread goes on and Kratos getting stronger? This seems bizarre as if this match is getting turned to Kratos favor.”
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Because I miscalculated when I said Pit could fly Mach 5.6 to 5.7. His reaction time hasn’t changed, however. He can react to objects traveling Mach 4.6.
I though at post 1512, he had Reactions to a Mach 173+ beam.
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“Even assuming my calculation of the “moon” being 1000 meters away, you still have to factor in the fact that it takes at most 1 frame for the beam to reach Pit. The game runs at 60 fps. That’s 1000(+) meters in 1/60th of a second.
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That’s Mach 173 in case anyone’s interested. If Proto Mind is right about it being 1 mile away that jumps to Mach 283. If my second calculation was correct that would put it at Mach 511.”
-OriginalA
OriginalA is taking into consideration the 60 fps. Note, it’s the game that runs on this, not the actual universe Pit exists in. If such was the case, I would think it would be necessary to consider 60 fps in any battle.
Question. Where is Kratos shown to be as strong as Cronus? What caused this to be thought? I am still highly in doubt of this “city-block” destruction level for Kratos.
@Alpha or Omega
“Of course they meant fire as shoot. Canon says it goes through walls, and it’s up to you to prove it’s radiation. Not to mention, how can it be radiation when it also works on cannons?:”
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^Show me it firing through a lead wall and ill believe its not radiation. remember your debating pit not me.
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“You said it was 10 feet wide, so it would be impossible for him to wield it, even if it was hugged.
Also, it doesn’t matter, when I said Pit can dodge it, I meant it, literally.”
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^ *face palm*….i was referring to the blade its self not the hilt
@The King of Heroes
I know its kinda weird. not to mention im getting the novel for gow shortly so ill soon be able to post cannon feats.
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@Alpha or Omega
““Even assuming my calculation of the “moon” being 1000 meters away, you still have to factor in the fact that it takes at most 1 frame for the beam to reach Pit. The game runs at 60 fps. That’s 1000(+) meters in 1/60th of a second.”
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^Yeah…in the vacuum of space. Thus moot as their on earth…
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@Aelfinn
“Question. Where is Kratos shown to be as strong as Cronus? What caused this to be thought? I am still highly in doubt of this “city-block” destruction level for Kratos.”
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^Did you read the calculations I posted? It all came from cronus thunder clap where he stated something long the lines of:”i will turn you into a bloody stain!”
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All in all kratos has a blade thats a few hundred feet long…. and about ten-20 feet thick (at the blade)
“^Show me it firing through a lead wall and ill believe its not radiation. remember your debating pit not me.”
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Whoa bro, burden of proof goes to you(not to mention, you are making an assumption). It has shown to go through walls both canon and game-play. Also, how would radiation work on kinetic weapons, such as cannons. And are you saying the blade is made out of lead?
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“^ *face palm*….i was referring to the blade its self not the hilt ”
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Then what’s the blades width? You only told me the blade is hundred ft. long and the hilt’s diameter. You are the one that should be giving me proof about the blade since you brought it up.
@Alpha or Omega
“Whoa bro, burden of proof goes to you(not to mention, you are making an assumption). It has shown to go through walls both canon and game-play. Also, how would radiation work on kinetic weapons, such as cannons. And are you saying the blade is made out of lead?”
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^No it goes to you. the weapons kratos uses are most of the time are enchanted(including ares sword )
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“Then what’s the blades width? You only told me the blade is hundred ft. long and the hilt’s diameter. You are the one that should be giving me proof about the blade since you brought it up.”
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^Ares swords hilt should be no thicker than kratos torso considering the pillar he threw. so in short easily being bare hugged by the god of war.
“^No it goes to you. the weapons kratos uses are most of the time are enchanted(including ares sword )”
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Fine, if it was radiation, then how come it allows physical projectiles such as black club and skyscraper club to pass.(scroll down in link below)
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kidicarus.nintendo.com/uprising/explore-the-game/weapons.html#clubs
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And if it was radiation, why doesn’t it go pass some type of enemies.
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And prove that Aries sword is enchanted since you keep asking me for proof.
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“^Ares swords hilt should be no thicker than kratos torso considering the pillar he threw. so in short easily being bare hugged by the god of war.”
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Assumptions, and I asked for the blade’s width.
Whoa, 20 pages? Seriously? Anyways, Slip Shot isn’t radiation if that’s the argument. Pit has a blade that uses bullets. BULLETS that go through walls. So, fuck that argument.
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Has anyone mentioned this thing in the award thread? This has been going too long. I’m withdrawing with a permanent vote to Pit.
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One last thing…
” OriginalA is taking into consideration the 60 fps. Note, it’s the game that runs on this, not the actual universe Pit exists in. If such was the case, I would think it would be necessary to consider 60 fps in any battle.”
Wouldn’t the fact that they know they’re in a game kinda backup OriginalA’s statement?
@Zol
Bullets that can go through walls at a casual degree?
Cool!!!
Wave Beam goes through walls, does not mean it’s radiation. Ghost go through walls, does not mean it’s radiation.
@DemonicBounty
Still the fact the bullets can do that suddenly gives Pit a level-up in Badass weaponry.
Wonder if Travis Touchdown would have a response to that.
@Alpha or Omega
“Fine, if it was radiation, then how come it allows physical projectiles such as black club and skyscraper club to pass.(scroll down in link below”
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^Could just be pit shooting a enchanted shot the. as for radiation not passing threw enemy’s radiation can greatly effect living things
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Also still doesn’t debunk ares sword. Ill get the quotes eventually(already placed a hold on the novel)
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@Zolanius:
“Wouldn’t the fact that they know they’re in a game kinda backup OriginalA’s statement?”
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Does Pit know he is in a game, or is he just aware of other universes?
During the Aurum Chapters, he states aloud: “I’ve spent this entire game getting shot at.”
“^Did you read the calculations I posted? It all came from cronus thunder clap where he stated something long the lines of:”i will turn you into a bloody stain!””
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And this means that Kratos is as strong as Cronus because…?
@Aelfinn
I never stated he was as strong as cronus i just pointed out he overpowered 4.58 billion tons and Cronus entire upper body via the thunder clap feat.
@Zol
Got vids?
“Could just be pit shooting a enchanted shot the. as for radiation”
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It’s not a spell, it’s an attack enhance. There’s no evidence on why it would be radiation.
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“not passing threw enemy’s radiation can greatly effect living things”
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Not all of Pit’s enemies to have their own radiation if there are any.
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“@Zol
Got vids?”
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eKVXMtkTAA&feature=player_detailpage#t=827s
Viridi-”You’ve been though a lot and you probably want to save your game.”
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Zolanius mention of the video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n94jBb1cpvY&feature=player_detailpage#t=342s
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Pit-”Dangerous? Come on now. I’ve spent the entire game being shot at.”
I think I’ll re-post tomorrow.
Also, food for thought, Hades rips the credits of the game.
I still think it’s silly to use the 60 fps because Pit never shows he’s aware of this.
@Alpha or Omega
Really whats stopping kratos form just hacking pit with the 200ft flaming sword? I’m probably gonna get the novel soon and be actually able to post novel feats.
“I’m probably gonna get the novel soon and be actually able to post novel feats.”
Couldn’t you just read it online somewhere?
@Negative Zero
“Couldn’t you just read it online somewhere?”
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^I tried couldn’t find a site, I also tried that with gow comics. Hence why i haven’t posted that many scans, But i did find a copy at the library and placed a hold.
@Gendrons
Ah, luckily for me I wanted to read The Dresden Files novels, I found a site that has them all lol.
@Negative Zero
Nice. Welp at least ill get some summer reading down XD. Plus the next gow novel(for gow2) comes out in just a few months. So are you planning on debating Dresden or just for fun?
“So are you planning on debating Dresden or just for fun?”
Both. I’ve already been debating a little bit for Dresden.
“I never stated he was as strong as cronus i just pointed out he overpowered 4.58 billion tons and Cronus entire upper body via the thunder clap feat.”
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Where is the video? What post #? I need to see it, but a clap =/= the entire upper body strength of a person. On top of that, do we have other feats from the thunder clap? Because we need absolute, solid proof before we increase Kratos’ strength by the BILLIONS using fan numbers and fan calculations.
“Really whats stopping kratos form just hacking pit with the 200ft flaming sword? I’m probably gonna get the novel soon and be actually able to post novel feats.”
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The video I posted showing Pit moving out of the way from a giant attack.
Also, why are you still assuming he can swing that blade around easily? Even if the hilt is 10ft at minimum for diameter, he can’t bear-hug it and easily swing it. He needed to be God form to do that.
@Aelfinn
“wasn’t that mearly the Minoan eruption. as for the Cronus clap we originally went with cides calcs here bloodrains(AKA NOT mine): “”Cronos weight-
1. 442m;
= 1,480,639,380 kg
= 1,632,125.54 tons
2. 500m;
= 2,143,347,050.754 kg
= 2,362,635.7 tons
For nothing else but to get a scale of things.
Pandora’s Temple weight;
Cronos forearm length
1. = 88m
2. = 100m
images.wikia.com/villains/images/1/1a/Kronos_11.png
Forearm = 1/5 height ]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHtjKDfaTkE
55 seconds ]
Height is 3x forearm
1. = 264m
2. = 300m
Width is 2x forearm
1. = 176m
2. = 200m
Length 2x forearm
1. = 176m
2. = 200m
Volume as a ellipsoid
1. = 4,271,110,321,067.8433 cm^3
2. = 6,267,477,344,730.001 cm^3
x2.5den rock density;
1. = 10,677,775,802,669.608 g
2. = 15,668,693,361,825.0025 g
1. = 10,677,775,802.608 kg | 1.067e10 kg
1. = 11,770,233 tons | 1.177e7 tons
2. = 15,668,693,361.8250025 kg | 1.566e10 kg
2. = 17,271,777.9 tons | 1.727e7 tons
If you can’t tell from above, 1. is if 442m and 2. is if 500m. The Ellipsoid volume was done on an online calculator cuz lazy.
Strength energy/force:
kg * 9.81 = Stationary Newtons
Force the Temple produces:
1. = 104,748,980,623.584 Newtons | 1.047e11 N
2. = 153,709,881,879.503 Newtons | 1.537e11 N
The force in Newtons that the Temple has from just being there. Not needed.
Kratos stopping Cronos’ 40,000,000kg hand at 1,500m/s
= 6e10 Newtons
= 5.12e13 Joules
Just a note on the force of the dead weight, without strength backing. Not needed by itself.
Cronos’ attack energy/force:
((kg*(speed))+(persons mass*persons attack speed))
1. = 2,847,210,717,759.845 Newtons | 2.847e12 N
1. = 3.22e14 Joules
2. = 4,121,940,971,543.724 Newtons | = 4.122e12 N
2. = 4.726e14 Joules
In GoW it appears as an ellipsoid, in GoW3 its a cone.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ompKbegok&feature=related
^10:34
Height is 3x forearm, width is 2x fore arm. The volume as a cone is 2,141,769,142,857.1409 cm^3, half the volume of the ellipsoid meaning half the weight.
As a cone:
1. = 1,423,605,358,879.9223 Newtons | 1.423e12 N
1. = 1.61e14 Joules
2. = 2,060,970,485,771.862 Newtons | = 2.060e12 N
2. = 2.363e14 Joules
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TL;DR:
-Cronos can lift 1.177e7-1.727e7 tons.
-Cronos strikes at 4.122e12 Newtons and 472.6 Terajoules.
-This is if Cronos is 500m tall and using an ellipsoid for the mass. Not sure if the cone should be used or not.””"
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^My post a few pages back…
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@Alpha or Omega
The hilt of ares blades no bigger than kratos torso,the blades about 10-20 ft wide
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxHk3esxis8
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^6:50 and on….clap feat
Which is 6 meters or so wide. Prove Kratos can get any sort of grip on it with the sheer size disparity
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Besides, has anyone here even confirmed those calcs yet? I think some people are being very dismissive *coughgendronscough*
@StealthRanger
Ares sword is used by kratos in the gow novel. his hand can barley grip the pillar thats no wider than kratos trosso
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“Besides, has anyone here even confirmed those calcs yet? I think some people are being very dismissive *coughgendronscough*”
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^You wanna try debunking it? Go ahead. The calcs i posted show crones lifting feats,size mass etc.
“The hilt of ares blades no bigger than kratos torso,the blades about 10-20 ft wide”
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How did you get that?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mh8Q7CkgTE
According to this battle, they were bigger than buildings and it took their hand to wield it. If it was the size of Kratos torso, the handle and the hilt would be smaller.
Also, how the heck will the blade fit in Kratos’ hammer-space?
I clapped my hand on a tiny beetle the size of a fingernail clipping. But it was still moving around in the center of my palm and didn’t die until I applied direct pressure with my fingers to crush it.
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Guess that means the beetle could have ‘overpowered’ me because it could barely move my hands. And it’s a good thing it doesn’t have a sharp enough bite to make me remove my finger.
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Not.
@Cypher
Your post is the year World War 2 came to an end.
Anywho, Pit’s still winning this thing, right?
Alright, I had a bit of computer trouble, so if this is a double post, I apologize. I looked at the Cronos thunderclap, and I have a few things to say.
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Firstly, Kratos was sheltered in the palm of Cronos, preventing the full weight being applied to him. Secondly, the palm of the top hand was above Kratos, further protecting him. Kratos never, ever, took the full force of Cronos’ hands or anything close to it.
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Futhermore, Kratos’ strength is further lowered during the QTE’s. While Kratos is hopping around on Cronos’ waist, two giant ogre-things pop out with hammers. During the QTE, Kratos takes the hammer and smacks the ogre with it, killing him. However, if Kratos had strength in the billions of tons, the ogre would have been turned into a red mist.
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Kratos isn’t too strong, isn’t too fast, and has a severe disadvantage in terms of range. He loses.
@Aelfinn
“Firstly, Kratos was sheltered in the palm of Cronos, preventing the full weight being applied to him. Secondly, the palm of the top hand was above Kratos, further protecting him. Kratos never, ever, took the full force of Cronos’ hands or anything close to it.”
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^ First off kratos clearly lifts up the entire hand,Second the pressure of a blow like that easily would drop most(have you ever had your ears boxed?)
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“Futhermore, Kratos’ strength is further lowered during the QTE’s. While Kratos is hopping around on Cronos’ waist, two giant ogre-things pop out with hammers. During the QTE, Kratos takes the hammer and smacks the ogre with it, killing him. However, if Kratos had strength in the billions of tons, the ogre would have been turned into a red mist.”
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^NON CANNON qte’s don’t make an argument.. not to mention kratos has what most call berserker strength in other words he exerts as much strength as he needs to not as much as possible(if this was the case kratos would easily of destroyed every puzzle he touched thus would of been stuck)
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“Kratos isn’t too strong, isn’t too fast, and has a severe disadvantage in terms of range. He loses.”
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^I agree with the speed but kratos still is immense in strength and should easily be able to kill pit
@Aelfinn
Sorry your thinking of the ton-force (still in the multimillions) not tons alone that kratos threw above his head quite easily. It was argued in the thread in which i got the calcs in the first place. Also we should see any one capable of lifting at least 1 ton punching heads clean off if were to go by you ogre argument….
“^ First off kratos clearly lifts up the entire hand,Second the pressure of a blow like that easily would drop most(have you ever had your ears boxed?)”
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No, he doesn’t clearly lift up the entire hand. Cronos just drew it back. Even if he did lift up the hand, though, are you telling me that the hand is 4.58 billion tons?
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“^NON CANNON qte’s don’t make an argument.”
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How are they non-canon? That’s how he would finish them.
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“(if this was the case kratos would easily of destroyed every puzzle he touched thus would of been stuck)”
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Hmmm… so his strength is inconsistent, to say the least? Hmmm…
@Aelfinn
“No, he doesn’t clearly lift up the entire hand. Cronos just drew it back. Even if he did lift up the hand, though, are you telling me that the hand is 4.58 billion tons?”
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^Your thinking of the ton force. Not the ton total. as i sated it was addressed where the sites calcs were done. As fr the withdrawing the hand argument it was going back down on kratos before he stabbed it.
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“Hmmm… so his strength is inconsistent, to say the least? Hmmm…”
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^I hear classic hulk(the father of beserker strength) got ko’d by an anaconda….. Name one character whose strength is always consistent who has it as a super power.
@Aelfinn
“How are they non-canon? That’s how he would finish them.”
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^Well have to wait for the gow3 novel to find out. I’m about to get my hands on the gow1 novel and hopefully find #2 early next year. Heck even the final boss qte’s art always accurate.
“I hear classic hulk(the father of beserker strength) got ko’d by an anaconda”
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Hulk’s been through a lot of changes though, gaining personalities, trying to cure himself, losing personalities, being happy, getting hit with a whole bunch of radiation and growing giant. Lot of weird stories and shit that power him up or giving a reason for being depowered.
“How are they non-canon? That’s how he would finish them.”
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Gendrons is just cherry picking certain things and disregarding things that don’t help his arguments to make his precious Kratos win
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Oh and gendork, 4.5 billion tons was Cronus’ LIFTING strength. If you read those calcs you copy pasted again, you’ll notice they calculated his striking strength to be 472.6 Terajoules
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Converting TJ’s to tons and we get a result of 112.95 kilotons. So town+ level striking strength
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So yeah, Cronus does not have gigaton level (Class T+/mountain+ level) strength like you were trying to imply (gigaton=billion tons jsyk)
@StealthRanger
“Gendrons is just cherry picking certain things and disregarding things that don’t help his arguments to make his precious Kratos win”
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^Yet in the novel they explain how he actually killed his enemy’s……
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“Oh and gendork, 4.5 billion tons was Cronus’ LIFTING strength. If you read those calcs you copy pasted again, you’ll notice they calculated his striking strength to be 472.6 Terajoules”
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^Kratos moved both his arms apart fairly handily. Yeah thats was ton force. not tons alone. He was clearly trying to hold his hands together after the slap.
“Kratos moved both his arms apart fairly handily. Yeah thats was ton force. not tons alone. He was clearly trying to hold his hands together after the slap.”
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Actually, Kratos was struggling and also had to use his legs as well to help, not to mention, he used the blade to separate the hands via pain.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZOrFsVXOo0&feature=player_detailpage#t=44s
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“^Yet in the novel they explain how he actually killed his enemy’s……”
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Then wouldn’t that mean that this further supports that video games and novels(comics too) tells the same story in a different way of what happened?
Like Halo?
I.E. Halo Combat Evolved(Video Game) and Halo the Flood(Novel)
@Cypher
“I clapped my hand on a tiny beetle the size of a fingernail clipping. But it was still moving around in the center of my palm and didn’t die until I applied direct pressure with my fingers to crush it.”
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^You like stealth aren’t the nicest of people huh? honestly i would of just flicked the guy away instead of outright killing it.
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@Alpha or Omega
“Actually, Kratos was struggling and also had to use his legs as well to help, not to mention, he used the blade to separate the hands via pain.”
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^Still separated arms that could lift 4.58 billion tons…the stab just gave kratos more breathing space AFTER separating said hands
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“Then wouldn’t that mean that this further supports that video games and novels(comics too) tells the same story in a different way of what happened?
Like Halo?
I.E. Halo Combat Evolved(Video Game) and Halo the Flood(Novel)”
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^Are you insinuating a few alternate universes for the gow verse or something?
“^Still separated arms that could lift 4.58 billion tons…the stab just gave kratos more breathing space AFTER separating said hands”
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Are you going to somehow show that Cronos was pushing his hands together as hard as he possibly could? Because that is nowhere near shown. Cronos thought that Kratos was dead. If anything, Kratos just lifted the hand, not pushed back against a force.
@Aelfinn
When you state you going to turn something into a nothing more “than a bloody stain” between you hands I think its safe to assume you’ll use all your might.
“I think its safe to assume you’ll use all your might.”
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So you have conjecture. Good to know you have no evidence.
@OriginalA
He was still applying force considering the hand went back down quite quickly after kratos lifted it.
“When you state you going to turn something into a nothing more “than a bloody stain” between you hands I think its safe to assume you’ll use all your might.”
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Like OriginalA said, it’s conjecture. But even if it wasn’t, it’d only make sense for him to use all of that force on the first slap. In that first slap, Kratos was hidden in the folds and indents of Cronos’ hand, putting much less force onto him than what you implied with your 4.58 billion ton estimate.
@Aelfinn
So if something the size of a flea was still alive after you first attack you wouldn’t try even harder to kill him? Especially considering what kratos did before said attack(ripping out a finger nail stabbing his fingers blinding him etc)?
“Yet in the novel they explain how he actually killed his enemy’s……”
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Then show us quotes or GTFO n00b
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“Kratos moved both his arms apart fairly handily. Yeah thats was ton force. not tons alone. He was clearly trying to hold his hands together after the slap.”
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Prove that he can exert that much pressure then
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And OA and Aelfinn covered the rest lmao
@StealthRanger
“Then show us quotes or GTFO n00b”
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Still waiting for the liberary book..
“^Are you insinuating a few alternate universes for the gow verse or something?”
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Never said that. Each source of media tells the story in a different ways. Sometimes it can be a retcon or a contradiction.
So no proofs. So ignored
“Still waiting for the liberary book..”
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Can’t you just walk over there and check it out?
“So if something the size of a flea was still alive after you first attack you wouldn’t try even harder to kill him? Especially considering what kratos did before said attack(ripping out a finger nail stabbing his fingers blinding him etc)?”
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If you smashed a flea in between your hands, wouldn’t you assume that it was dead. I watched the video again. Kratos just pushes the hand up (with no reaction from Cronos!) and then stabs it. Only after the stab did Cronos make any response. Sure, Kratos is probably in the tons with that feat, but that isn’t strong enough to make much of a difference in this fight.
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Kratos isn’t strong enough. He isn’t fast enough. He loses.
Why are we debating Kratos strength……again?
Does strength have any relevance in this match?
No, considering Kratos is severely outclassed in terms of ranged ability and Pit likes to fight at range
@StealthRanger
I just found out its at my library right now ill have it today.
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@Alpha or Omega
It does when its retarded elephant strength…..
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“If you smashed a flea in between your hands, wouldn’t you assume that it was dead. I watched the video again. Kratos just pushes the hand up (with no reaction from Cronos!) and then stabs it. Only after the stab did Cronos make any response. Sure, Kratos is probably in the tons with that feat, but that isn’t strong enough to make much of a difference in this fight.”
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^Yeah he did he slammed his hand back down. if you noticed your hnds being separated by a pesky ant you would surly try harder to crush it.
I am here to stop any and all forms of unsubstantiated wank.
“I just found out its at my library right now ill have it today”
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Nobody cares. What relevance does strength have anyways when you can’t hit your opponent?
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“It does when its retarded elephant strength”
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Wow gendork I had no idea that “retarded elephant+” was an actual strength level
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:hestonlaugh
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“Yeah he did he slammed his hand back down. if you noticed your hnds being separated by a pesky ant you would surly try harder to crush it.”
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Conjecture
“^Yeah he did he slammed his hand back down.”
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No he didn’t. I just watched the video, and he didn’t.
“^Yeah he did he slammed his hand back down. if you noticed your hnds being separated by a pesky ant you would surly try harder to crush it.”
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He only did that after Kratos lifted his hand when he was off-guard(Didn’t know Kratos was not dead.) and proceeded to stab him in the palm before the hand could reach Kratos and Cronos pulled his hand back.
@StealthRanger
“Nobody cares. What relevance does strength have anyways when you can’t hit your opponent?”
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^I really have no idea..why does aelfinn wanna debate a class 100′s strength any way? But the novel should give me better durability feats incite on other character and possibly new arguments.
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@Aelfinn
even alpha agrees he slammed his hand back down and hes debating pit.
“I really have no idea..why does aelfinn wanna debate a class 100′s strength any way?”
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IIRC my calcs that put Titans at town+ levels of destructive capacity gave you a massive boner so you tried to use said striking strength to give Kratos the win
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“But the novel should give me better durability feats incite on other character and possibly new arguments.”
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I wonder what Cypher will say *grin*
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And yeah sure, whatever *rolls eyes*
“Wow gendork I had no idea that “retarded elephant+” was an actual strength level”
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That deserves every LOL.
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“if you noticed your hnds being separated by a pesky ant you would surly try harder to crush it.”
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This is conjecture, what I am about to say, but no more than yours. If you slapped your hands together on top of an ant, there’s a good chance that you thought it was dead. You stop applying pressure. At that point, your hands rise what? A millimeter? A centimeter? Certainly nothing big enough to garner notice, especially when you realize that your hands naturally separate when you stop applying pressure. Cronos’ only reaction occurred when he got stabbed by the BoO, which would be the equivalent of a fire ant bite. As the only visible reaction happened when Cronos was stabbed, that is the only thing that can be proven.
@StealthRanger
“IIRC my calcs that put Titans at town+ levels of destructive capacity gave you a massive boner so you tried to use said striking strength to give Kratos the win”
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^IIRC I posted calcs before you did……Check your self.
“even alpha agrees he slammed his hand back down and hes debating pit.”
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He TRIED to slam it back down was what I meant to say. There still was the Blade of Olympus there to give Cronos a healthy dose of pain.
“IIRC I posted calcs before you did……Check your self.”
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You copy pasted them from KMC and got a hueg boner over how big those numbers were so you copy/pasted them here in an attempt to give Kratos the win based on this
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Besides, did anyone here even confirm those calcs anyways?
@StealthRanger
.What i mean to say is hes got massive class 100 strength feats. Ah the funnest quote i ever heard for strength which i also believe is true is this: “hes as strong as the plot demands him to be”.-superman thread.
“Wow gendork I had no idea that “retarded elephant+” was an actual strength level”
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^Figure of speech….you may be one of the sharper tools in the shed but still a tool
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Yeah ill probably get the book in a hour or so.
@StealthRanger
“You copy pasted them from KMC and got a hueg boner over how big those numbers were so you copy/pasted them here in an attempt to give Kratos the win based on this”
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^Well to be fair hellboy linked the thread I just pasted the calcs here to make it easier for some of the lazier debaters.
“He TRIED to slam it back down was what I meant to say. There still was the Blade of Olympus there to give Cronos a healthy dose of pain.”
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And to add on, that was after he clapped on Kratos not using his full strength because he thought Kratos was dead.
“even alpha agrees he slammed his hand back down and hes debating pit.”
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He’s wrong as well, then (no offense alpha). I just watched the video. It doesn’t get slammed back down.
“Figure of speech”
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I was mocking you you fucktard
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“Ah the funnest quote i ever heard for strength which i also believe is true is this”
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Nobody cares. This is a debate, theres no plot involved. Kratos is as strong as he’s shown to be, he has defined physical limits. Considering he exerts effort into dealing with his foes throughout the series
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And I don’t recall anyone ever confirming those calcs. Oh and again, that thunderclap was calced at 112.95 KT. Town+ level in other words
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And prove Cronus can exert as much pressure as he can lift weight
“^Well to be fair hellboy linked the thread I just pasted the calcs here to make it easier for some of the lazier debaters.”
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…..And who are the lazy debaters?
“Well to be fair hellboy linked the thread I just pasted the calcs here to make it easier for some of the lazier debaters.”
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And since nobody has confirmed these, stop spouting them
“He’s wrong as well, then (no offense alpha). I just watched the video. It doesn’t get slammed back down.”
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I never said he did. I said he tried to, hence the hand moving back down a little bit before being stabbed.
@Aelfinn
I have the game i know what happens.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxHk3esxis8
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^His hand quite clearly goes back down.
@StealthRanger
“And since nobody has confirmed these, stop spouting them”
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^Welp who’s on this site whose good at math? Is dr docter still debating?
No, Cronus was simply pressing down on Kratos after the thunderclap. And you have yet to prove he can exert billions of tons of pressure given that lifting strength and pressing hands together are different applications of strength
“^His hand quite clearly goes back down.”
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You mean after Kratos stopped pushing on it? There’s gravity in this game? My God! Stop the presses! It most certainly was not a “slam”. It, at most, practically floated back down. There was certainly enough time for Kratos to pull out the sword, swing it around, and stab Cronos.
Oh and btw, if you’re going to send us vids, at least provide the specific mm:ss to where said events happen!
@StealthRanger
Not to mention Cronus afterwards casually breaks his harnesses by gliding his hand along his arm….. going by the feats of those kinds of binds(see steeds of time,atlas etc) in the gow verse clap feat stands
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*blank stare*
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So much stupid. Its almost like you don’t even read our posts
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Prove he can exert as much pressure as he can lifting strength motherfucker!
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And prove their the same binds too
@Aelfinn
“You mean after Kratos stopped pushing on it? There’s gravity in this game? My God! Stop the presses! It most certainly was not a “slam”. It, at most, practically floated back down. There was certainly enough time for Kratos to pull out the sword, swing it around, and stab Cronos.”
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^Going by kratos other strength feats(throwing the colosus of rhodes,leviathans,lifting the labyrinth etc) and that the hand only lifted a few feet from where it was thrown cronus should of actively been pushing his hand back down otherwise it would of gone much farther up than that….
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@StealthRanger
You sir are lazy. PLus i altready posted the vid and time wearlier on this thread so i thought i didn’t have too.
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676 more comments until this thread gets retarded….
@StealthRanger
“So much stupid. Its almost like you don’t even read our posts”
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^I read them that what im doing now isn’t it?
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“Prove he can exert as much pressure as he can lifting strength motherfucker!”
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^Its arm strength my calcs were talking about.. can you stop swearing bud. :roll
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My bets on Kratos because Kratos is the guy that killed all the roman gods including zeus what difference will pit make?