Here we have Pit from the Kid Icarus series going up against Hall Of Fame winner Kratos!
For this battle both fighters have all equipment and Pit doesn’t have any access to any vehicles.
The battle will take place at the Colosseum.
Who wins?
Pit Vs Kratos
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“it’s just still kind of a mess here”
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I kinda figured that out
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““planetary strength” disproves itself since it is a silly idea that is not physically possible. I’ve explained that already like two or three pages back.”
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Yeah I know. Resident fucktard gendrons is trying to say Atlas has planetary strength because his “holding up the world” thing and that GoW Earth is round when canon sources dictate the “Earth” is a flat layer of ground above Tartarus supported by pillars
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“Dude aren’t their like 30 or so other matches more in need of an award?”
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Meh, this is just one match needing an award
@Zolanius
honestly this thing could get completely turned around via one good “life cycle” feat in gow ascension(I’m sure pit could wait one more year considering how long he waited for a sequel lol)
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@Alpha or Omega
if that is so how did he charge his sheild without a light scource? simple answer he didn’t need said light source.
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@stealth
As Ive said many more matches are more in need of awards.
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@theobserver
I have a few unrelated questions for future reference. What is the definition of a stomp on factpile just to be sure. www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wks1GrqTFo&feature=related :does this make the Asuras wrath verse any weaker considering a mere peak human can handle being punched to the moon? at 4:28 and on… If not do you think Asura vs Maxwell for the title of most powerful video game character would be acceptable considering now Maxwell can truly summon ANYTHING he wants: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHxaRMCmjT8
“As Ive said many more matches are more in need of awards.”
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I know. But this is just one match where Pit deserves his FPA
@StealthRanger
Hes waited years for a sequel whats one more for a definitive win?
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So what are your thoughs on asura vs maxwell of scribblenauts? tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Scribblenauts?from=Main.Scribblenauts
-this guy.
“Hes waited years for a sequel whats one more for a definitive win?”
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>Doesn’t deny that Pit deserves his FP Award
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Concession accepted
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And im not waiting ’till next year to decide a winner
@StealthRanger
It is composite so we might as well(happened with Aang vs Kratos too i recall)
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You also didn’t give me your thoughs on my matchup. unless you’ve got a more OP game character to run for the title.
Nobody is going to wait a year. Pit wins. Feel free to revive this old and beaten thing in a year. By that time, nobody would care enough to respond. So mark it on your calender. It’s done.
“What is the definition of a stomp on factpile just to be sure.”
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A stomp is a match where one side is so overwhelmingly superior to the other that there’s no point in making it. Something where you can decide who the victor is within seconds flat without putting that much thought into it.
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“does this make the Asuras wrath verse any weaker considering a mere peak human can handle being punched to the moon?”
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Actually, Asura’s Wrath seems pretty constant with what it considers breakable. Take the moon for example. Augus slices entire sections of the thing without much effort yet Asura can counteract said force by catching it with his arms. The fact that Ryu can survive getting punted into the moon makes his durability immense considering a normal human should have been liquefied pretty much on impact. I think that just proves that he’s anything but a normal peak human in Asura’s Wrath. Too bad it’s probably non-canon. Akuma busting the moon was insanely awesome.
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Right off the top of my head, I’d say that Maxwell gets speed blitzed especially since apparently Asura can go FTL from that scene to Chakravartin.
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Well, back on topic.
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“if that is so how did he charge his sheild without a light scource? simple answer he didn’t need said light source.”
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The thing about the beam Kratos used on those puzzles/on Persephone is that he either needed an extra supply (Helios) or something else to channel the light (the statues). Regardless of the things about charges, Kratos wasn’t able to use the attack on the fly in canon, even when he had the Light of Dawn with the Sun Shield.
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Kratos isn’t an idiot, so if he could do that attack without Helios, don’t you think he would have used it at the start of the match rather than get punted around by Persephone? He wouldn’t have waited for Helios; he would have just blasted her right away if he could. Thing was, he couldn’t, so he fought her the only way he knew how until Helios gave some help. He then took the chance and that’s when he blasted Persephone by reflecting Helios’ magic against her.
“It is composite so we might as well(happened with Aang vs Kratos too i recall)”
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Nobody gives a fuck. As Zolanius said, nobody is waiting a year. Pit wins plain and simple
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Composite characters and no vehicles for Pit is the only reason Kratos can have a chance
a year is too long to wait, if it was fall this year or next month, sure but a year is ridiculous.
Hmmm…. Kratos vs Old One Eye?
@theobserver
“Right off the top of my head, I’d say that Maxwell gets speed blitzed especially since apparently Asura can go FTL from that scene to Chakravartin.”
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^doesn’t time stop while Maxwell is righting though? Not to mention after creating a “universal black hole”(i destroyed about five universe with it” maxwell was only “defeated” and his body was completely fine. so ide figure asura could knock him out but not really kill him.
meh as long as “rematches” are still possible over here ill give my consent for a few months. at least untill a.)we actually powr scale such things in the gow verse b.) i get some tangible proof of using the sun sheild without Helios consistent power. or c.) I find a good aoe magic or ability to use. (considering the size of the battle field)
@stealth wouldn’t hades claws put one eye down for good despite its immense regeneration?
“a.)we actually powr scale such things in the gow verse”
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Considering how powerful enemies Pit faced are…
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“b.) i get some tangible proof of using the sun sheild without Helios consistent power.”
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Intangibility/invisibility from Pit would counter that anyway.
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“c.) I find a good aoe magic or ability to use. (considering the size of the battle field)”
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Did you considered Pit’s power’s and abilities?
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“wouldn’t hades claws put one eye down for good despite its immense regeneration?”
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Wouldn’t its sheer strength just destroy Kratos’s weapons and Kratos himself?
@Alpha or Omega
“Considering how powerful enemies Pit faced are…”
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^and a universal being in kid Icarus is???
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“Intangibility/invisibility from Pit would counter that anyway.”
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^If he has true light speed reactions sure.
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“Did you considered Pit’s power’s and abilities?”
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^Yes. Did you consider pits not immune to time dickery? like that of life cycle(in gow A sadly)
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“Wouldn’t its sheer strength just destroy Kratos’s weapons and Kratos himself?”
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^I’m sorry. Strength feats for said one eye are???
“and a universal being in kid Icarus is”
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Chaos Kin.
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“If he has true light speed reactions sure”
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Kratos has to activate and charge it though. Pit’s megalaser however can be thought activated and is lightspeed, gameplay and canon.
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“Yes. Did you consider pits not immune to time dickery? like that of life cycle(in gow A sadly)”
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The time slow works close up and time reversal was only shown to work on background objects. Doesn’t counter “virus” “blackhole” “slipshot” “megalaser” “instant death laser” etc. And how is Kratos going to hit Pit when Pit can just turn intangible/invisible. He can’t hit him and he doesn’t even know where he is.
“^I’m sorry. Strength feats for said one eye are???”
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Crushing massive Eldar Wraithbone spires with its talons, flicking 70+ ton battle tanks aside as easily as we swat aside insects. I doubt Kratos could hurt it given weaker ‘fexes can survive orbital bombardment
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And I don’t think OOE has a soul either O_o
Random but, Megamind needs a match on here, how about Megamind and Metroman vs Batman and Superman?
Hmm another strategy.
Pit’s rail-cannon(Rail gun)
Make weapon shots invisible
Shoot invisible projectiles at Kratos
Dead Kratos.
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Or just spam invisible projectiles at Kratos with any homing weapon.
@Alpha or Omega
kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Kin
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^it doesn’t say anything “universal” or atleast what ive read in it.
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“Kratos has to activate and charge it though. Pit’s megalaser however can be thought activated and is lightspeed, gameplay and canon.”
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^destructive capabilities?
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“The time slow works close up and time reversal was only shown to work on background objects. Doesn’t counter “virus” “blackhole” “slipshot” “megalaser” “instant death laser” etc. And how is Kratos going to hit Pit when Pit can just turn intangible/invisible. He can’t hit him and he doesn’t even know where he is.”
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^if it can work on the background it is feasible for it to work on enemies.
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@stealth
“Crushing massive Eldar Wraithbone spires with its talons, flicking 70+ ton battle tanks aside as easily as we swat aside insects. I doubt Kratos could hurt it given weaker ‘fexes can survive orbital bombardment”
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^ill get back to you. gotta go
As for Hades’ Claws, you can resist those if you’re strong enough, hence why Kratos could resist and why Hades had to be weakened beforehand
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Kratos is strong, but Old One Eye is much stronger
“^it doesn’t say anything “universal” or atleast what ive read in it.”
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Can travel in and out to different dimension via chaos dimension.
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“^destructive capabilities?”
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Incinerates enemies. Stronger and bigger than Pit’s beam or kinetic weapons.
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“if it can work on the background it is feasible for it to work on enemies”
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Assumptions. Not to mention, he could have used it when the two people got hit with a spear.
I’ll be back. Going to find something.
Here is a claim that I might regret making. Could Pit have FTL reactions?
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eKVXMtkTAA&feature=relmfu
At the beginning, we see the lightning chariot reach high speeds and dodging blasts and enemies.
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@ 1:38 in the video, Pit hits a warp tunnel, allowing the chariot to hit warp speeds. Now Pit still dodges debris and enemies in the warp tunnel which could mean FTL reactions. And at 2:38 there is a cutscene showing how fast the chariot went without warp speeds (because he left the warp tunnel) to hit Palutina’s temple.
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Now you’re thinking perhaps this, “Now that’s impressive but couldn’t that be considered PIS?” Which is why I bring this.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRnCuNpqiJs&feature=player_detailpage#t=149s
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In this scene, we see Hades and Pit(with great sacred treasure) hit some kind of unimaginable speeds possibly near light speed if not light speed and at 3:51, We see Pit dodging MOST of the beams while he is in the same speed he was going to chase Hades and at 3:56, we see those beams homing and catching up to Pit. So we know The Great Sacred Treasure was going at high speeds and was dodging homing beams that could go as fast as the Great Sacred Treasure.
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However, the counter to the first video could be that the horses have light speed reactions. That could be true, but Pit was steering them. The counter to the second video could be that the vehicle makes Pit’s reaction greater, but by how much is it if it’s true?
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Now this claim I made that Pit has light-speed reactions could be true due to the fact that he was dodging objects and beams while going light-speed or near light speed. (Hides just in case decides to rip my claim into shreds.)
“Wouldn’t its sheer strength just destroy Kratos’s weapons and Kratos himself?”
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Yes
@StealthRanger
Huh i though resisting the claws counted as magic,spiritual resistance.
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“Kratos is strong, but Old One Eye is much stronger”
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^Didn’t Cide give kratos lifting strength of 28’000 tons?
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@Alpha or Omega
“Can travel in and out to different dimension via chaos dimension.”
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^That it? Giratina could do that and hes FAR from universal. then theirs Thanatos “domain of death”
@Alpha or Omega
Could thoughs objects in the war be going just slower then his chariot? its not like they were being shot at him. plus its all relative. If I flew a jet at mach speeds and flew by a few other planes I wouldn’t have supersonic/hypersonic reactions now would I? but yes the chariots fast but not in the fight. not to mention you act as though the horses on the chariot are incompetent most animal would try and avoid giant rocks. heck they were able to maneuver the chariot without pit after all.
@Alpha or Omega
“Incinerates enemies. Stronger and bigger than Pit’s beam or kinetic weapons.”
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^how big we talking? it more destructive then the flames of apollo killing an island sized being?
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“Assumptions. Not to mention, he could have used it when the two people got hit with a spear.”
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^You know were talking about Kratos right? I’m surprised he saved one of them. heck even via game play he could of put the spears in stasis .
“Could thoughs objects in the war be going just slower then his chariot? its not like they were being shot at him. plus its all relative If I flew a jet at mach speeds and flew by a few other planes I wouldn’t have supersonic/hypersonic reactions now would I? but yes the chariots fast but not in the fight.”
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Did you take the account of the fact that Pit was going warp speed while debris and enemies were firing at him?
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“not to mention you act as though the horses on the chariot are incompetent most animal would try and avoid giant rocks. heck they were able to maneuver the chariot without pit after all.”
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Except they allowed Pit to control them and allowed Pit to ram them against Palutina’s shield around the temple.
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“how big we talking? it more destructive then the flames of apollo killing an island sized being?”
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Bigger than people if you seen my post, post 611 but size is irrelevant. Also, just because the fires cover more area, doesn’t mean anything related to power.
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“You know were talking about Kratos right? I’m surprised he saved one of them. heck even via game play he could of put the spears in stasis .”
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Doesn’t change the fact that the time reverse could have been used on the two dead guys. Not to mention, he could have used time reverse on the simple enemies too.
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“That it? Giratina could do that and hes FAR from universal. then theirs Thanatos “domain of death”
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The chaos kin can do it freely, anytime and anywhere he wants like at Palutina’s temple. I know nothing on Giratina so I can’t say whether he is or not.
“anything related to power.”
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Should be temperature instead of power.
Would the blue line left behind by the Lightening Chariot be an indication of speed? It appears instantly, from the Temple of Palutena and when it broke into Hades’ dimension.
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Also, Chaos Kin and Pandora are interdimensional, the Lightening Chariot travels through space, and the space pirates travel galaxies and capture constellations. No, not stars, but entire constellations. I think Palutena said that destroying the engine to their ship can destroy an entire galaxy. Somebody feel free to correct me, since this is from memory.
@Zol
You sure we aren’t talking about Metroid in here?
“Huh i though resisting the claws counted as magic,spiritual resistance.”
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And you can also resist with strength, hence why Hades had to be weakened in combat beforehand and I severaly doubt Kratos can hurt Old One Eye given his high regeneration coupled with his durability (can survive orbital bombardment)
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“Didn’t Cide give kratos lifting strength of 28’000 tons?”
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Carnifexes can level massive Eldar Wraithbone spires that are way bigger than IRL skyscrapers and Wraitbone is more durable than ceramite which is way more durable that any IRL material
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Yup, pretty confident Old One Eye is stronger
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But back to the match at hand, why is this still being debated when Pit has already won?
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And there are no universal beings in God of War either
@Commander
I’m pretty sure. While Metroid has funky science, Kid Icarus has even stranger science. I mean, Pit can carry an arm-mounted Rail Gun. Stuff like that usually has to be mounted to the ground. Even by Metroid standards.
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Hey guys, aren’t the Aurum universal?
@Zol
You mean they got more firepower than what it would take to blow up an entire New York Bridge(something that a ‘Normal’ Metroid Missile can do if it hits), in fact?
Kid Icarus has moar dakka?
Im pretty sure the “mutli city block busting” Super Missile thing was shot down in Samus vs Old One Eye
I meant a ‘Normal’ Metroid Missile, not a Super Missile.
Can we go back to the feats of the Lightening Chariot? I want to suggest a race with it.
“I meant a ‘Normal’ Metroid Missile, not a Super Missile.”
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You know Super Missiles are more powerful right?. I highly doubt that Normal missiles have that level of destructive capacity when Super Missiles are city block (50 tons) level
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Oh and my gravatar>yours
Lol.
@Zol
Let’s just do that, alright?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfUr6dqTGGk&feature=player_detailpage#t=499s
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It said it can create an enormous explosion if destroyed. I don’t think it can destroy a galaxy. Unless dialogue changes depending on intensity like Halo, I think what Palutina said about the ship generator is true considering she is right most of the time. However @ 9:52-10:02 it showed that the ship really does have stolen constellations by compressing it.
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“Im pretty sure the “mutli city block busting” Super Missile thing was shot down in Samus vs Old One Eye”
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I thought it was un-quantifiable due to the fact we can’t gauge it on the pixels and the epiccenter, or something.
“Can we go back to the feats of the Lightening Chariot? I want to suggest a race with it.”
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I’m pretty sure that if it can go through a warp tunnel, it can go at warp speeds or FTL.
@Omega
I thought it was worth 5 ‘Normal’ Metroid Missles.
“I thought it was un-quantifiable due to the fact we can’t gauge it on the pixels and the epiccenter, or something.”
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Pixel scaling is retarded and I highly doubt that Super Missiles are 1.2 kilotons and I thought it was a figure of 50 tons on Samus vs Old One Eye or something that was attained
You mean to tell me that Metroid’s Super Missiles are now lacking consistent calcs almost as Badly as Bleach’s Speed Calcs lack consistency?
Or do you mean to tell me that Balefire auto-kills Old-One Eye before regeneration can register?
“Pixel scaling is retarded and I highly doubt that Super Missiles are 1.2 kilotons and I thought it was a figure of 50 tons on Samus vs Old One Eye or something that was attained”
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IIRC EnigmaJ said that we shouldn’t use the 50 tons on post 158.
“E = 10^(1.5M + 4.8)
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E = 10^(1.5(4.4)+4.8)
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E = 2.5×10^11 joules ~ 50 tons
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But that aside, I really don’t think we should use this number anyways. First of all, there’s the issue with the number being calculated from a 16-bit game, and observations used to calculate it are not seen in the later, games with more advanced graphics. This implies that the “2 pixel” shake is the result of game mechanics.”
“But that aside, I really don’t think we should use this number anyways”
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Got it. And the 1.2 KT thing was dismissed too
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So its unquantifiable now then
I guess I’ll take it as the Super Missiles now have calc consistency issues, not quite as bad as Bleach’s Speed Calcs(Yet) but still pretty bad!
So off topic-ness aside, (my fault I guess) nothing other than Pit wins.
“nothing other than Pit wins.”
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Theres pretty much nothing left to discuss seeing as we’ve all come to that conclusion and the only one contesting it is gendrons
“and a universal being in kid Icarus is???”
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And a universal being in God of War i…. oh thats it, nowhere!
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“Wouldn’t its sheer strength just destroy Kratos’s weapons and Kratos himself?”
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Yes
Somebody clarify for me, I had thought that interdimensional beings meant universal. The Chaos Kin was mentioned, and I mentioned Pandora. Hades has a universe in his stomach, according to the game idol itself.
About the super missile, there isn’t inconsistency. I am of the opinion that Samus acquires different types of upgrades with the same name. This is noticeable with the suit upgrades she receives.
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Each suit upgrade has different damage reduction and immunity. The Power Beam in MPC:3 also seems to be different because the information about it is that it has the Charge Beam.
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The calculation made by TheBlackCat was demonstrated to be flawed based on the quake produced by a super missile. Not to mention, there wasn’t a huge explosion. Perhaps that was a game mechanic. I’ll explain why.
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In Metroid Fusion we see the SA-X use a super missile. This is what happens.
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i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p489/Pseudo-Onkelos/sa-xdestroyswall.jpg
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When you play Metroid Fusion and use your missiles, especially your super missiles, nothing like that ever happens. So the only reason for inconsistency is because the upgrades have the same name, but are not actually the same.
@Alpha or Omega
hence not universal…this is : godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Ouranos
“Did you take the account of the fact that Pit was going warp speed while debris and enemies were firing at him?”
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^from what i saw the stuff could of been moving just at a slower rate.
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“Except they allowed Pit to control them and allowed Pit to ram them against Palutina’s shield around the temple.”-
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^So? show me pit forcing them to turn on a dime not to mention didn’t they just appear their after the warp? i figure pit just gave them general instructions and these steeds did the fine movements.
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“Doesn’t change the fact that the time reverse could have been used on the two dead guys. Not to mention, he could have used time reverse on the simple enemies too.”
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^as stated before weve yet to see the life cycles true scale. could be part of that “world changing scenario” who knows maybe he stops time temporarily on a whole island. we wont know untill it comes out so I’m just going by what was seen.
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“Bigger than people if you seen my post, post 611 but size is irrelevant. Also, just because the fires cover more area, doesn’t mean anything related to power.”
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^He incinerated said island sized being. as for your cover more area thing i believe you just gave me the win. i pretty dam sure that island sized being is bigger than the coloseum thus kratos kratos just incinerate the entire battle field and pit with it.
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I don’t see why people are complaining about the pictures chosen it could of been these: www.google.ca/imgres?q=captain+n+kid+icarus&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=cc0&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=826&tbm=isch&tbnid=UWQ3ogflIMhA6M:&imgrefurl=http://www.retrogameage.com/%3Fp%3D4065&docid=hXrEt7dN3NQrVM&imgurl=http://www.retrogameage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/kid-sorry.jpg&w=495&h=369&ei=oVYHUM-hB8HWqgGa55y_BA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=393&vpy=155&dur=1919&hovh=194&hovw=260&tx=209&ty=96&sig=103947818258984418685&page=1&tbnh=145&tbnw=194&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:76 & www.google.ca/imgres?q=kratos+funny&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=826&tbm=isch&tbnid=cFipuT-kXpa50M:&imgrefurl=http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/lmao-dmcs-story-possible-major-dmc-spoilers.250145773/&docid=ckQOiux7IMGxdM&imgurl=http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/mune3b/Gamespot/Afro-Kratos.png&w=310&h=320&ei=Q1gHUIH0LYSjrQGRwuSvBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=182&vpy=109&dur=1547&hovh=228&hovw=221&tx=114&ty=135&sig=103947818258984418685&page=2&tbnh=145&tbnw=140&start=26&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:26,i:176
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^by the way the first ones real(captain n the game master pit)
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“The chaos kin can do it freely, anytime and anywhere he wants like at Palutina’s temple. I know nothing on Giratina so I can’t say whether he is or not.”
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^so can this guy: leagueosuperevil.wikia.com/wiki/Doomageddon and he gets his but kicked by bunnies….
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^see they add the word “universe” to what he did as a touch to actually give scale.
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@StealthRanger
“Carnifexes can level massive Eldar Wraithbone spires that are way bigger than IRL skyscrapers and Wraitbone is more durable than ceramite which is way more durable that any IRL material”
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^show me a hardness scale of ceramite and well talk kratos broke an emeral casually with one hand. it has a hardness scale of 8 mean whuile you ceramite was only stated to be heat resistant.
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@every one else
godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Apollo%27s_Flame
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^Couldn’t Kratos just burn the whole damn battle field(can cover a whole island)? plus it would easily mess up pit aim He probably couldn’t see 3ft in front of him. and his intangibility and invisibility is temporary right?
@everyone
I’m wondering what do you thinks a better buy. A Psvita or a 3ds? if so can you give some reasons I’m kind of torn.
A 3ds so you can actually play Kid Icarus and understand why he’s so much a better fighter.
“show me a hardness scale of ceramite and well talk kratos broke an emeral casually with one hand. it has a hardness scale of 8 mean whuile you ceramite was only stated to be heat resistant.”
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You’re asking for what you can’t have. There is no given hardness for ceramite. Only that it takes attacks that would obliterate modern day battle tanks with ease and .75 caliber RPG rounds. It makes steel look like wet tissue paper. OoE cuts through that like wet tissue paper and wraithbone is more durable than ceramite
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And he broke an emerald which proves…. what? Considering that they’re lacking in tensile strength or other such durability properties. Hardness=/=density
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Still confident that OoE>Kratos strengthwise and durabilitywise
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And nobody in GoW is universal
@Zolanius
i lost faith in pit kinda because of captain n the game master. i like his modern interpretations though.
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godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Flames_of_Apollo
pits not allowed to leave the battle field and this has more the enough range to engulf the whole battle field and possibly blind pit.
@StealthRanger
“You’re asking for what you can’t have. There is no given hardness for ceramite. Only that it takes attacks that would obliterate modern day battle tanks with ease and .75 caliber RPG rounds. It makes steel look like wet tissue paper. OoE cuts through that like wet tissue paper and wraithbone is more durable than ceramite”
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In other words unquantifiable.
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“And he broke an emerald which proves…. what? Considering that they’re lacking in tensile strength or other such durability properties. Hardness=/=density”
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^and emerald has a harness of 8 out of 10(a diamond being ten). Kratos turned it to dust in one second with his right hand.
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“Still confident that OoE>Kratos strengthwise and durabilitywise”
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^strength kratos is possibly stronger if not as strong. Ill give OoE durability but kratos has agility,the weapons and skill for the job.
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“And nobody in GoW is universal”
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godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Ouranos
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^Riiight he just gave life to earth not the “universe” as stasted huh?
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godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Flames_of_Apollo
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^Kratos incarcerates the whole battlefield. pits intangibility soon wears off and he gets burned.
welp I’m done for now ill be back later.
Libra Sponge absorbs damage and lasts for quite a while. Same with Aries Armor. Also, Interference prevents magic. So with Pit’s speed, Kratos won’t be able to pull it off before Pit cancels it.
@Zol
Looks like I might be able to find Pit another worthwhile opponent at some point, after all.
“from what i saw the stuff could of been moving just at a slower rate.”
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Did you considered the fact that Pit was moving as slow showing that it was in slow motion? The camera also pans on him.
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“So? show me pit forcing them to turn on a dime not to mention didn’t they just appear their after the warp?”
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You don’t need to turn on the dime, just dodge. Also, they were in front of Pit shooting at him while Pit was going at FTL speeds, and the enemies appeared, before, during, and after the warp. Did you see only part of the video?
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” i figure pit just gave them general instructions and these steeds did the fine movements.”
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Then why would he need to steer them.
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“as stated before weve yet to see the life cycles true scale. could be part of that “world changing scenario” who knows maybe he stops time temporarily on a whole island. we wont know untill it comes out so I’m just going by what was seen.”
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Assumptions, hence the reason why why I said that on post 1023.
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“He incinerated said island sized being.”
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The surface yes. He burned the surface of an island.
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“as for your cover more area thing i believe you just gave me the win. i pretty dam sure that island sized being is bigger than the coloseum thus kratos kratos just incinerate the entire battle field and pit with it.”
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Invisibility/Intangibility, Mirror Shield, Wings of Pegasus(air born). Also, Pit would incinerate Kratos with Megalaser before he could do anything harmful to Pit. Not to mention, if Kratos burned the whole place, he would catch on fire! That would be an idiotic move.
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“so can this guy: leagueosuperevil.wikia.com/wiki/Doomageddon and he gets his but kicked by bunnies…. hence not universal…”
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Chaos Kin can travel to different dimensions! He only lost because he wasted his energy summoning troops and enemies, and was blocked off by Viridi’s shield.
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“…this is : godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Ouranos”
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He only created life. Also prove that God of War Ouranos can kill anyone.
“For this battle both fighters have all equipment”
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See that line? That means Pit can fly for an unrestricted amount of time. Kratos can burn away the entire battlefield and all he will accomplish is deminish the area in which he can use to dodge Pit’s attacks. Pit, on the otherhand, can just leave the ground and snipe Kratos from afar…. which is exactly what he has been doing since he started winning.
“The camera also pans on him.”
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Should be follow him.
Since Pit has FTL reactions here are some of the following reasons why he wins in the shortest amount of time.
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Invisibility/Intangibility which leaves Kratos’s attacks harmless. From there Pit can proceed to cut him up.
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He can equip invisibility to weapon attacks. Why not the rail-cannon. Kratos can react to rail-gun, but not an invisible rail-gun.
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Mega-laser incinerates him.
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He uses the Mirror shield or the power “reflect” and reflects Kratos’s attacks, while Pit can shoot with the arrows of light.
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These are four ways Pit can end a battle in a short amount of time, while Kratos can’t do anything useful to attack back at Pit. There are more, but these are the ways that Pit can win easily. Pit stomps…
“In other words unquantifiable.”
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Tanks things that would make short work of modern day materials
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“and emerald has a harness of 8 out of 10(a diamond being ten). Kratos turned it to dust in one second with his right hand.”
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Emeralds are more brittle than ceramite because while they may be hard, they’re not very dense
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“strength kratos is possibly stronger if not as strong”
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Well when Kratos levels structures bigger than IRL skyscrapers and constructed out of materials far more durable than steel like OoE does I’ll be there, until then, nope
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“agility”
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Which required certain things in the battlefield such as pillars or rubble to work to its effect with the chain blades, other than that he’s a beserker who basically swings his blade around like a crazy person
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Still not convinced he can hurt it remotely
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“weapons”
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Useless when he can’t hurt OoE or match him in strength
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“skill”
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Useless when your outclassed physically
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“Riiight he just gave life to earth not the “universe” as stasted huh?”
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Oooh, a statement, which proves nothing. Which fails considering that GoW takes place across one planet and not a universe and said statement was likely a figure of speech
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“Kratos incarcerates the whole battlefield. pits intangibility soon wears off and he gets burned.”
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All equipment. Pit can fly indefinitely and snipe Kratos with insta-death lasers. Or use his Great Sacred Treasure to disintegrate Kratos (I wish, sadly its not allowed, otherwise Kratos would be uber stomped with it)
Are you sure the GST isn’t allowed? I asked in earlier pages if it could be treated as a summon and not a vehicle, since its able to pilot itself. Nobody seemed to disagree.
Well it says no vehicles and seeing as Pit pilots the GST… yeah
@Zolanius
keep talking.
unless pit wants to deal with such fire.
“Libra Sponge absorbs damage and lasts for quite a while. Same with Aries Armor. Also, Interference prevents magic. So with Pit’s speed, Kratos won’t be able to pull it off before Pit cancels it.”
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^You act as though pit can do all these things at once. Have any been able to handle an attack that can incinerate an island?
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@Alpha or Omega
“You don’t need to turn on the dime, just dodge. Also, they were in front of Pit shooting at him while Pit was going at FTL speeds, and the enemies appeared, before, during, and after the warp. Did you see only part of the video?”
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^That shows he doesn’t have good control of the steeds thus they get the rt feat not the steeds. not to mention how was that light speed? Was it stated?
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“Then why would he need to steer them.”
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^game play maybe you playing as the steeds.
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“Invisibility/Intangibility, Mirror Shield, Wings of Pegasus(air born). Also, Pit would incinerate Kratos with Megalaser before he could do anything harmful to Pit. Not to mention, if Kratos burned the whole place, he would catch on fire! That would be an idiotic move.”
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^i belive this was covered in kratos vs harry that if you can cast such magic your immune to its powers . So nope kratos would be fine while pit can see 3 ft infornt of him due to the fire and after his intangibility wears off he gets incinerated.
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@StealthRanger
“Emeralds are more brittle than ceramite because while they may be hard, they’re not very dense”
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^show me ceramite being harder then daimond of at least emerald and we will talk.
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“Tanks things that would make short work of modern day materials”
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^ www.newscientist.com/article/dn16610-diamond-no-longer-natures-hardest-material.html
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^Riiiight
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“Useless when your outclassed physically”
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^batman and bane……
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“Oooh, a statement, which proves nothing. Which fails considering that GoW takes place across one planet and not a universe and said statement was likely a figure of speech”
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^more universal then anything proven in kid Icarus… and cannon.
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@OriginalA
“See that line? That means Pit can fly for an unrestricted amount of time. Kratos can burn away the entire battlefield and all he will accomplish is deminish the area in which he can use to dodge Pit’s attacks. Pit, on the otherhand, can just leave the ground and snipe Kratos from afar…. which is exactly what he has been doing since he started winning.”
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^also which i believe counts as bfr….
Sure, he piloted it, but he didn’t before. He had to fight it to pilot it. I say if it can fight on its own, it should be treated as a summon. If nobody else agrees, I guess I would have to concede this point.
I had no other way to argue against your point, Zolanius.
if you can drive it I’d consider it a vehicle. sort of like you would megas xlr.
“show me ceramite being harder then daimond of at least emerald and we will talk.”
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Takes .75 caliber high explosive super-hypersonic rounds, above surface temperatures, normal weapons are incapable of peircing it, taking hundreds of megajoules of energy like flies on a windshield, tanking attacks that annihilate modern day battle tanks, Class 5 superhumans failing to even dent it. now you
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Even so, diamond and emerald are quite brittle and anything that can break it will simply break/shatter it
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“keep talking.”
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Which proves what exactly? Fucktard?
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“batman and bane……’
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Considering Bane has an easily exploitable weakness and Batman has as much PIS as Squirrel Girl your point fails
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Kratos’ skill is useless when the Old One Eye sorely outclasses him in strength, durability and regen
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“more universal then anything proven in kid Icarus… and cannon”
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Universe is likely a figure of speech considering GoW takes place across a single planet and not a whole universe. Show me a feat of him creating a universe and I’ll believe you. Until then, no dice faggot
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“also which i believe counts as bfr”
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He’s flying and sniping Kratos from afar, how the fuck does that count as BFR?
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Otherwise by your retarded logic in a Full Frontal vs Kratos match if Frontal (in his Gundam) flew and bombarded Kratos with beam weapons that would be BFR
“Have any been able to handle an attack that can incinerate an island?”
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Just to make it clear, this island was covered in perfectly combustible material such as trees. I don’t know if fire will spread very well in a stone Colosseum. Another thing to note is the traveling time:
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images.wikia.com/godofwar/images/9/9f/Apollo%27s_flames_4.jpg
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Much slower than sound, and much slower than Pit’s projectiles. It really doesn’t change the outcome of Pit sniping Kratos before he can even get an attack in. Flying wouldn’t be BFR since Pit can just fly over the flames. It’s not like the fire consumes every inch of the Coloseum. Hell, the scene where Kratos uses it proves that the flames themselves don’t really burn higher than a few meters.
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images.wikia.com/godofwar/images/5/56/Apollo%27s_flames.jpg
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Hardly enough for Pit to have to resort to flying out of the arena, and still more than enough visibility to spot a target.
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“more universal then anything proven in kid Icarus…”
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Yet still featless. Can’t do anything with a simple title.
So does that mean that if he were to conjure a horse somehow, it’d still be a vehicle since he has the ability to ride it?
@StealthRanger
home.earthlink.net/~kstengel226/astro/meteor/impact_phys.html
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^most hader then daimond materials are created from such strikes.
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“Considering Bane has an easily exploitable weakness and Batman has as much PIS as Squirrel Girl your point fails”
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^by PIS you mean “weapons” right?
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“Universe is likely a figure of speech considering GoW takes place across a single planet and not a whole universe. Show me a feat of him creating a universe and I’ll believe you. Until then, no dice faggot”
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^I’m going from a quot of a several eons years old being. and the writers who stated it.
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“He’s flying and sniping Kratos from afar, how the fuck does that count as BFR?”
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^Kratos incarcerates the battle field thus pit leaves it.
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Speaking of emerald and hardness, its toughness (resistance to breaking) is very poor, as in, it doesn’t take much force to break an emerald, so Kratos breaking it isn’t that significant
“That shows he doesn’t have good control of the steeds thus they get the rt feat not the steeds.”
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Whoa, how does it show he does not have good control over the steeds?
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“not to mention how was that light speed? Was it stated?”
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…Did you see the warp tunnel scene part? Where it allows the lightning chariot to go warp speed, which is FTL?
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“game play maybe you playing as the steeds.”
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Can you prove it?
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“i belive this was covered in kratos vs harry that if you can cast such magic your immune to its powers . So nope kratos would be fine while pit can see 3 ft infornt of him due to the fire and after his intangibility wears off he gets incinerated.”
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Question, how would Kratos survive survive it?
Intangibility allows Pit to be safe.
Also, health bar is canon!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD9HmsXIR4&feature=player_detailpage#t=603s
@10:45 Pit: “Floor ice cream gives you health!”
Said by fourth wall breaker Pit
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD9HmsXIR4&feature=player_detailpage#t=603s
In this @10:15, Pit can survive catching on fire without intangibility, sure it hurts, but not a lot. But with the health bar, Pit can tank it!
“by PIS you mean “weapons” right?”
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You replied to my skill statement. Besides, not that any of Kratos’ weapons could dent OoE, whereas OoE would crush Kratos with his strength and eat him (no srsly)
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“most hader then daimond materials are created from such strikes.”
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Btw, modern day steel and tungsten have equivalent hardness to emerald, and seeing as ceramite is far more durable than any IRL material and has extreme toughness and strength, etc, yeah
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“Kratos incarcerates the battle field thus pit leaves it”
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Kratos incinerates the battlefield, killing himself as he’s the only one on it. Pit hovers above the battlefield. Way to kill your argument dumbass
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“I’m going from a quot of a several eons years old being”
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And yet still featless until you can show him doing anything on a universal scale, you claim must be taken with a grain of salt
@Zolanius
Then kratos is allowed Pegasus,the sun chariot etc.
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@theobserver
“Just to make it clear, this island was covered in perfectly combustible material such as trees. I don’t know if fire will spread very well in a stone Colosseum. Another thing to note is the traveling time”
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^Doesn’t matter if kratos aims at the ground.
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“Just to make it clear, this island was covered in perfectly combustible material such as trees. I don’t know if fire will spread very well in a stone Colosseum. Another thing to note is the traveling time:”
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^also like titans this living island creal;y had rocky skin yet still got incarcerated.
www.google.ca/imgres?q=flames+of+apollo&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=826&tbm=isch&tbnid=4wogAwg4sXJ7QM:&imgrefurl=http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/File:Apollo%27s_flames.jpg&docid=E-j-9BSfzGk06M&imgurl=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110316023833/godofwar/images/5/56/Apollo%2527s_flames.jpg&w=1224&h=860&ei=73kHUKvQL4airAGlk9WyBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=969&vpy=157&dur=431&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=152&ty=128&sig=110795324267790837910&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=189&start=0&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0,i:88
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“Hardly enough for Pit to have to resort to flying out of the arena, and still more than enough visibility to spot a target.”
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^depends the common hight of a tree in the area. from an esttimate I’d put it at around 100 ft above the target zone going from the corner blast in the pic. and i dough pit could properly aim though such a blaze.
Ugh, Health Bar is canon.
@ 10:45
@StealthRanger
“You replied to my skill statement. Besides, not that any of Kratos’ weapons could dent OoE, whereas OoE would crush Kratos with his strength and eat him (no srsly)”
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^Going by your avatar i call fanboyism. show me a legit strength feat that’s quantifiable and beyond 28kilotones. and we’ll talk.
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“Kratos incinerates the battlefield, killing himself as he’s the only one on it. Pit hovers above the battlefield. Way to kill your argument dumbass”
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Covered in harry vs kratos. not to mention hes immune to such flames. the battle feild destroyed pits the first bfr’d. or he just leaves due to the intensity.
Post 1084 proves that health bar is canon, and bottom half of post 1081 proves that Pit can survive being on fire.
Would said Pegesus be actually conjured? Or just called from a specific point? Besides, there’s probably nothing that GoW has that can contend with the GST.
@Alpha or Omega
Can kratos target it?
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Zeus broke his health bar to pieces(literally) and he survived fine.
@Alpha or Omega
“Post 1084 proves that health bar is canon, and bottom half of post 1081 proves that Pit can survive being on fire.”
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^hurts him and thoughts flames have not much for destruction feat now do they?
@Zolanius
Power feats of the gst? Other then taking money out of my pocket?
“Covered in harry vs kratos. not to mention hes immune to such flames. the battle feild destroyed pits the first bfr’d. or he just leaves due to the intensity.”
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Or Pit’s FTL reaction allows Pit to use the Mega-laser and kill Kratos.
Or Pit uses invisibility/intangibility and uses meteor shower during the fire.
kidicarus.nintendo.com/uprising/explore-the-game/powers.html#special-attack
Kratos will also be affected by the fire and be blinded as well since you have posted no proof on how Kratos will not be affected by fire.
“hurts him and thoughts flames have not much for destruction feat now do they?”
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Considering there was trees on the island, also, prove that the fires are hotter.
Go read Megatron vs Great Sacred Treasure for GST feats in detail. I can promise you, it’s much more durable and faster and has more firepower than Kratos would know what to do with.
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Speaking of that topic, anyone want to bring it back from the dead? Or did we finally decide that it was even?
@Alpha or Omega
“Or Pit’s FTL reaction allows Pit to use the Mega-laser and kill Kratos.
Or Pit uses invisibility/intangibility and uses meteor shower during the fire.
kidicarus.nintendo.com/uprising/explore-the-game/powers.html#special-attack
Kratos will also be affected by the fire and be blinded as well since you have posted no proof on how Kratos will not be affected by fire.”
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^charon fight gow coo. plus pit will be blined while kratos Doesn’ need sight if he controls the whole battle field with flames now does he? he also has impressive regeneration. Wouldn’t said meteorites just get disintegrated?
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you act as though THIS never happened….: www.google.ca/imgres?q=pit+captain+n&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=ftN&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=826&tbm=isch&tbnid=UIEsa98XhzslxM:&imgrefurl=http://silverssimstuff.wordpress.com/tag/captain-n/&docid=_dIBl5gvBg5jZM&imgurl=http://silverssimstuff.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/kid-safesimon.jpg%253Fw%253D495%2526h%253D371&w=495&h=371&ei=yH0HUOuqLoHVqgGh8bzfBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=205&vpy=161&dur=449&hovh=163&hovw=232&tx=156&ty=133&sig=110795324267790837910&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=212&start=0&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:73
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^at least he’s out of his rut. Is captain N considered cannon even?
@Alpha or Omega
“Considering there was trees on the island, also, prove that the fires are hotter.”
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^the living island was surrounded by water and he was still fully engulfed by the flames and eventually got incarcerated. now your turn.
“charon fight gow coo. plus pit will be blined while kratos Doesn’ need sight if he controls the whole battle field with flames now does he? he also has impressive regeneration.”
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Charon doesn’t even come close to FTL speeds thanks to you’re links, also you do know burden proof falls on YOU.
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“said meteorites just get disintegrated?”
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Meteorites don’t really get disintigrated.
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“you act as though THIS never happened….: www.google.ca/imgres?q=pit+captain+n&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=ftN&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=826&tbm=isch&tbnid=UIEsa98XhzslxM:&imgrefurl=http://silverssimstuff.wordpress.com/tag/captain-n/&docid=_dIBl5gvBg5jZM&imgurl=http://silverssimstuff.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/kid-safesimon.jpg%253Fw%253D495%2526h%253D371&w=495&h=371&ei=yH0HUOuqLoHVqgGh8bzfBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=205&vpy=161&dur=449&hovh=163&hovw=232&tx=156&ty=133&sig=110795324267790837910&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=212&start=0&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:73
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^at least he’s out of his rut. Is captain N considered cannon even?”
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Question, how is Captain N relevant?
“the living island was surrounded by water and he was still fully engulfed by the flames and eventually got incarcerated. now your turn.”
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It only burned the surface of the island. It never went into sea. Guess what? The Pyroblaster was able to burn Pit despite the fact that he was in space. Also, can you show Kratos tanking the fire again?
Pyhron vs Helios anyone?
“Pyhron vs Helios anyone?”
Heck no.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD9HmsXIR4&feature=player_detailpage#t=1001s
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Phyron was able to push a factory that can make continent sized ships.
Flying characters are allowed to fly in matches without it counting as BFR. See any match with any version of Rildey vs a non-flying character (John 117 and Wolverine both come to mind immediately).
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BFR is achieved by completely removing the enemy from the field of battle in such a manner that the enemy cannot in any way return. Pit CHOOSING to fly off of the ground does not satisfy that criteria.