Suggested by Commander Cross, Dualgunner, GuardianAngel1911 and Turtle Commando
Haseo stormed into the Kirkwall Gallows, unhindered by the sights around him. The tormented mages only affirmed why he was here, and who he was here for. Atoli. She had recently been captured by warriors known solely as “Templars”, and he wasn’t going to let her suffer at their hands.
He appeared in his third form and brought all of his weapons, from his dual daggers, his gigantic chainsaw-sword known as the Centipede, and his scythe, but his guns have mysteriously ceased to function. He had with him all of his spells, and he was ready to destroy any who got in his way.
Knight-Commander Meredith could only smirk as Haseo neared the fortress of the Templars. “Give her back!” He yelled, drawing the Centipede, letting the chains menacingly race along the blade, creating sparks.
“No. All mages must be dealt with.” Meredith replied, folding her arms. “How about a…game?”
“I’m in no mood for games.” Haseo replied.
“We have a Champion, you know. A warrior of untold power.” Meredith replied. “If you can beat him at his best, you can have your mage back. It will be a battle to the death.”
“What’s stopping me from attacking now?”
“You against our Champion, or you against my entire army? I’d pick my battles wisely, infidel.” Haseo scoffed.
“Bring him on! I’ll tear him apart!” Meredith began laughing.
“He’ll meet you in one hour.”
Hawke prepared for his fight. He was armed with a Rogue’s set of skills, and was trained in the arts of the Duelist and the Shadow. He wielded two swords and a bow, being quite proficient in both arts.
Both fighters entered the courtyard. In a place Haseo couldn’t reach, he saw Meredith and Atoli, watching as blood was about to be spilt on the grounds.
“Kill…” Haseo muttered.
“…or be killed.” Hawke finished, and both warriors charged forward.
Both sides’ abilities + Powers will work for them against their enemy in this fight to the death, operating at optimal potency to the best of their abilities!The Hawke used is based on the Fighter-timeline of the Dragon Age universe, while the incarnation of Haseo is dot.hack//G.U-era Haseo, and should the match risk being a stomp on either side’s favor, it is up to match suggestors to discuss how to ensure it stays balanced!
Who wins?
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@Admiral
Are you ready for this?
Its time to lock and load, then. (goes to develop the goblin-forged guts that I barely had the time to muster!)
This is pretty much the introduction for the ‘former’ Terror of Death in here, I hate to say it but methinks someone forgot to leave the note of introduction. :sweat:
(is trying to use Gallows’ humour at my own expense, until the Admiral arrives)
Well, where to begin?
I knew this day would come.
@Doc Lowk
Are you or are you not in there?
Complicated scenario.
I’ll simply be observing since I have no knowledge of any of the two combatants.
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@ Commander
You’ve been waiting for this match for a long time, now post everything you know about these two characters so people can start debating.
catneycoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/Go-Canucks-Go1.jpg
@Lieutenant
Alright then, I’ll try.
Haseo, the ‘Former’ Terror of Death(we’re using G.U-era for this, pretty much!) is essentially a very famous Badass fighter who was on a warpath to save a few friends already near death’s doors, before, ever since one of them ran into a guy who got infected with Haseo’s world’s equivalent of Phazon and literally sent someone to a hospital for a while.
As you can see, since this is 1st death wins, if he dies here, he dies for real, it’s pretty much hinted at in the past.
Corpsman Dualgunner may assist with the in-depth analysis on Haseo, I am going to take his tale by chunks, but lets just say that Haseo in his past life was actually quite cunning, so whatever you do, do not count him out!
Nice, CC got his match posted. Hope it’ll be good for him.
@Lightning
Trust me, there’s more to the scenario that’s already posted up than meets the eye, between you and me.
I’ll let Corpsman Dualgunner be the one to explain more in-depth about it, because someone would find it obvious that its canon that the guy on Side A would not…be some kind of ‘flavor’ of the Dragon, Mercenary variant for said flavor without good reason, but I’d rather not be the one to explain what I mean, I’ll instead await the other 3 fellow match suggestors.
Meantime, may I go ahead and gather some fighting feats and abilities for Side B in here, many of which were before he has the Xth form, even though its not clear whether or not he’s gonna need it, yet?
www.mangahere.com/manga/hack_g_u/v01/c001/13.html
Yes, I am aware that the games are the highest canon, Yes I am equally aware that Side A in here also is a part of a Multi-verse in here to boot(so is Side B, funny enough), no this does not rule out this scene in the Manga being canon in its own right, as Haseo just jumped really high with that scythe!(This confirms how fast and Agile he can be in combat!)
(cocks the proverbal revolver)
In other words, while the overall circumstances had some differences between the Manga and the Games in particular(latter being the highest canon as confirmed) the Manga’s reasons share the basis of Haseo on a Warpath for Tri-Edge(above-mentioned dude who sent too many people on Near-Death Experiences of one form or another) back when he mistook Tri-Edge for being a guy with two Twin Swords that have 3 blades each(he’s actually one of the Azure Knights, which would essentially be the Dresden Files universe’s equivalents of the Knights of the Cross, meaning they are Badasses you have to have the functioning BrainCells to not frak around with, lightly!)
I’ll get the game version here up, shortly.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKpsDJyIL-c
Skip to (3:36) and this is where the REAL fun begins, although there’s no Atoli in there to save, which is somehow fine(given that the Manga, while Canon in its own right, was some kind of ‘beta-test’ for a take on the G.U era’s main storylines!) Also at (5:34) its confirmed that Haseo can use non-verbal spells at the time(why are all the spells verbal apart from gameplay mechanics taking place, I have no idea, just be glad there’s room for quantifiability to a degree, alright?) and yes, its agreed on that much decapitation is to be had, when Haseo was just asking about if they knew where Tri-Edge was, as those who are bested by the guy don’t tend to wake up and are at the very least near death’s door(though being near death’s door can mean many things, I’ll agree that its via entering Comas, it was pretty much happening worldwide!)
In short, the guy on Side B is Haseo, the Terror of Death, Conjure the phrase at your own risk!
Really…this match was posted?
@General
I’m a man of my word, when I made a Promise, I intend to see to it its honoroed to the bitter end!
Question my methods as you see fit, but whatever you do, do not question my motives at this time, I’ll take full responsibility if the match is not worthwhile at all!(Don’t take it out on any of the suggestors but me, I don’t want the Admiral or Corpsman Dualgunner to pay for it either!)
Let’s just say that after a lot of the crap that broke out last November, that this is an improvement of sorts.
“Let’s just say that after a lot of the crap that broke out last November”
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what are you talking about?
I’m putting my money on Haseo
@General
I’d rather not talk about it, I’ll settle for the fact that the Civil War on the top 10 was and always would be one of the ‘only’ good fights from last November I liked, alright?
@Admiral
This probably won’t be an easy fight, to be sure, but then again if all things are considered why would the ‘former’ Terror of Death be expecting an easy fight, to begin with?
Although…regardless, whoever survives from this fight, is not only gonna have to pretty much explain to their hostage as to the ‘why’ in which it lead to the bloodbath that broke out(and let’s try to await Corpsman Dualgunner as to regards to another hostage other than Atoli that’s personal for Side A here) but will have to flip the finger at the likes of Meredith and put an end to this madness.
Otherwise you can just have the White Council vs the D.A Templars(Thedas Branch only, though, but none of Side A’s family in their ranks either way!)
You recall all the fights Haseo here went through?
Its not gonna be a stomp, I’m one of the 4 fighting to avoid that at all costs(which is why in fact BOTH SIDES have equal value in reasons for this fight, otherwise allowing either to have 1 to worry about without the other having likewise would be bogus and generally just not me!) but its not gonna be a fight to easily breathe about when you realize the fridge horror that may await, either.
For now, I await when more people arrive.
Right now, I think the question is more “Is there anyone else here that knows anything about Haseo?”
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Perhaps you could give us the Hawke knowledgables a rundown of Haseo’s abilities?
@Master Sarge
My pleasure to be among those who will do this.
You have already seen the links I showed in one of my last posts, right?
And if you’re siding with Hawke even though you’ve yet to be aware of the someone Hawke’s fighting to save outright, rather than just observing, permission to tip my blood-knight’s helmet, since Its been weeks since I last recalled wearing it and I might have overclocked in it a bit?
@Master Sarge + everyone else in here, so far
From what I understand, no matter what the overall conduct of the match will offer, no matter how this match in particular will end, no matter if even the people BOTH SIDES are fighting to save wind up crying rivers or even lakes of tears, one thing will be without a doubt.
This fight is going to be big…real big!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K96y3MTuV0
(0:49) In the Prequel(to the main storylines of dot.hack//G.U) anime’s take on Haseo vs the guy he thought was Tri-Edge(he’s actually an Azure Knight, AKA one of the 3 counterparts to the Dresden Files’ Knights of the Cross, themselves!!!) Haseo is confirmed to be able to use Non-verbal Spells, and the one aimed at the guy he was facing who weakened him for a while in the end of THAT fight was an offensive spell.
Keep in mind 2 things, One, I probably have to get the dubbed versions of either take on the fight, but in the Prequel Anime and the Games(though for some reason or another, not in the G.U+ Manga, even though the Manga’s canon in its own right, too, just not quite up to par with the above-mentioned Prequel or the Games for the most part…which is a good thing that its confirmed the dot.hack universe is a Multi-verse, like I said before!) Haseo was in the 3rd form for Adept Rogues, meaning he could already wield Scythes or Broadswords(Like the Centipede that was mentioned in the Scenario, a Big Force Chainsword that it is!) right at that time(yet like I said before, the Manga didn’t have him in the 3rd form, yet he could STILL wield Twin Blade Weapons, Broadswords and Scythes just fine despite being badly weakened at the time!)
Skeith(essentially one of the dot.hack-verse’s equivalents of the Titan gods of Othyrs) or at least what remained of its existence, was already integrated to Haseo’s subconsciousness, meaning he had the potential to sense abnormalities(it is however confirmed that Shino or Atoli, since their Morganna Factor*what’s left of the Phase Monster integrated to their subconsciousness* Innis was the Mirage of Deceit, happened to possess the Sharpest hearing of the Infinity 8, overall, and in Atoli’s case at the start of most of the takes on the main G.U storylines she couldn’t even properly tap into Innis’ powers yet, at the time!) but he couldn’t unleash Skeith’s powers at all, which actually helped to explain for how he got beaten by the dude in red in the 1st fight.
Sure, for the sake of fight I can look up some stuff on Hawke. Maybe I was doing it wrong (Durn backwards Jap Comics!) but I went a number of pages in both directions from the link you posted, and all I’ve discovered is that the people in that universe say “Uwaaaa!” and “Uhhnnn!” way too much. Could you lay Haseo’s abilities out for us directly, that would greatly aid anyone looking to debate here.
@Master Sarge
Well let’s just say that before Haseo had a run-in with a group of illegal dirtbags from his world(regardless of which version of the G.U storyline we’re talking about, the G.U+ Manga had Atoli in there as Haseo killed multiple birds with one stone, even though saving Atoli wasn’t the primary objective so much as it was just a bonus at the time) he sort of took extreme level-ups in Badass, because he found no other way to save Shino(someone who was a predecessor to Atoli as a member of the Infinity 8, powerful dudes who have at least borderline supernatural abilities, or at the very least would be able to detect anything that’s not normal!) when she got into a Coma via Supernatural causes(of at least the Borderline variety!) as the Coma couldn’t be cured via conventional means.
I’m not sure what that means exactly.
www.watchcartoononline.com/hackroots-episode-13-english-dubbed
This is pretty much the episode where Atoli’s predecessor in Shino(in regards to possessing the powers of the Mirage of Deceit) fell into a coma, which pretty much encouraged Haseo to go seek means for level-ups in Badass so he could go on some kind of major Warpath to hunt down the ones who sent Shino to above-mentioned Supernatural Coma to begin with.
Keep in mind that it may or may not have been possible that the warpath in here might make the one in regards to finding the guys who inflicted that Borderline Supernatural Coma(I’ll just say BSC for short) seem somewhat tamer in comparison, which given the legendary field records of slaying a lot of people like any One-Man Army worth their salt would do that Haseo has, gunning for him….well I’ll say its a bad day to be Haseo, no doubt about this, its worse if you’re one of those Templars that were in his way before now, and probably even worse if you’re Atoli(Shino’s successor as the Mirage of Deceit) as should you be the latter, then no matter what you do, you’re gonna have causes to weep in the long run of things, if you’re the middle, get the hell out of his way or be ready to get killed and disposed of, accordingly, and if you’re Haseo…just don’t let me go there, alright?
www.animepalm.com/hackroots-english-dubbed/hackroots-episode-24-english-dubbed/
The English dubbed version of the episode where the Anime’s take on Haseo vs The-above-mentioned-dude-in-red whom Haseo thought placed Shino into a coma is at, more or less, which also sheds light into the extents of Haseo’s foe quality, I’m sure.
@Master Sarge
BSC is what happens when one is in a coma via means that conventional approaches will not snap the unconscious bodies off of.
Meaning all in all, Shino couldn’t wake up until Haseo could successfully wipe the guy who placed Shino and a lot of other people into such a coma like that the biggest beating of his life, which is just what he’d be asking, really!
@Master Sarge
Also in episode 24 above, at (13:51) onward before that big fight happened, Haseo acknowledged that he was forced to become Badass because Ovan thrusted the Circumstances for its occurances at him, actually.
@Master Sarge
At (10:31) of Episode 13, its suspected that Shino was aware of things that went ‘bump’ in The World, so to speak(meaning Supernatural stuff was going on) and at (11:43) there’s a warning Shino left to Phyllo(the guy I mentioned before who requested Anteres to help Haseo with the Lost Weapons!) that if anything bad should happen to her, Phyllo’s to see to it that Haseo would be cared for, (14:27) Did I forget to mention that before his level-ups in Badass to near-ludicrous degrees after visiting and surviving from the Forest of Pain, that Haseo had to take on a couple of scumbags, 2 of whom happened to be among the very 1st he encountered before he met Ovan(Chessmaster who manipulated a great deal of the events of the G.U era!) except at (16:03) a lot of that fight might not have been shown, (16:50) on the other hand that fight between Haseo and above-mentioned idiots isn’t over until the Fat Lady’s Portrait sings, as Haseo was able to either apply a Rengeki(a Melee attack for those with CQC weapons) or an attack Item against one of the idiots, and then he dodged an incoming blow that would have hit him otherwise, only to hit another of the idiots.
(18:10) Haseo in that episode also managed to badly injure another of the idiots until they all fell at his hands, (19:00) I feel for Haseo in there, a comrade-in-arms in Shino finally fell, it also shows that during the Anime prequel(debatable in the games since healing spells aren’t gained in the ‘natural’ manner, they can only be learned via learning items) at (19:51) Haseo could actually cast the most ‘basic’ version of the Repth healing spell, which was doing next to jack in preventing Shino from getting into a Coma.
Which saves the trouble of worrying about whether or not Haseo can cast any spells at all, but I digress.
I’ll go gather more feats as necessary in the meantime, alright?
Datadrain followed by guns.
Since he’s from dragon age I doubt he can do anything about it.
@Master Sarge
In terms to understand, to get hit via D.D would be akin to getting hit with Soulfire from the Dresden Files universe, except rather than actually costing your soul’s stability via draining your life with use of the latter, you don’t want to overuse the former too much in case you drained more life essence than you can deal with.
Let’s see what else can be mentioned in the meantime, otherwise the match would feel too short.
what exactly does a data drain do?
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this might be a quetsion of universes.
as i understand it, haseo’s fighter form exists only in the game, which means that data drain might not work on a actual physical body.
@Mess
For the sake of the match, let’s just say Haseo’s powers are permitted outside their main ‘source’ if you can catch my drift, otherwise it’d be bogus for sure and Meredith either way does not get to die horribly at the hands of whoever survives from this mess, really.
A Wizard did it…again!
okay.
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what about magic items and protective bonuses,
what armor are they wearing?
what weapons is Hawke using?
@Mess
We know that Haseo’s got twin blades(unstated at this time, up to the match suggestors including myself and 3 others to determine as to which ones Haseo will get) and we know that the Centipede is the Broadsword Haseo will carry with him, the Scythe in question is unknown, but I suspect its either Tickling Death or Shadowy Death(if its the latter, Rogue!-Hawke’s allowed to wield Thedas’ response to Starfang whose name eludes me, I’m awaiting Doc Lowk to arrive already so I can be sure that we can progress further and the match won’t feel too short!)
I hope Corpsman Dualgunner’s doing alright, I don’t want him to feel…atrocious because of me, that’s for sure, its already bad enough that I gotta try not to worry about the idea that the people either side’s out to save(family or lovers) will be having causes to cry rivers or even lakes of tears no matter who survives from this thing, and that either way since MAD is to be ruled out from each other, somehow PRAY that someone will remember to kill Meredith horribly for this.
Haseo’s chainsaw, is it like an actual chainsaw or is it a chainsaw that can tear through whatever the plot demands? Still hoping he wins, dragon age was weak.
*crawls into bomb shelter, putting on ear plugs*
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This one’s going to last awhile… A very long while…
what about armors?
@Itis
Its a Big Chainsword, its akin to trying to imagine a 40K Marine wielding a BFS that’s doubling as a Chainsword!
Long story short, getting hit by the thing is the LAST THING you want to be feeling, generally speaking.
@Soldier’s Shadow
Hope the shelter’s not gone.
@T.C and Admiral
You there yet?
@Mess
For Haseo’s end or Hawke’s?
Again methinks one of us needs to contact the Master Sarge for this, not sure if T.C will be around to explain, either.
i was thinking both.
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sorry if i seem a little combative, i’m really tired
@BD
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““Let’s just say that after a lot of the crap that broke out last November”
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what are you talking about?”
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www.factpile.com/6930-garrett-hawke-vs-harry-potter/
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I’ll say Haseo puts a bullet through Hawke’s forehead. I don’t think there’s anything to compare speeds with for Hawke, even if you use DA2 gameplay.
*sigh*
thats probably true
@Mess
Maybe when you’re better-rested you’ll be healthier than ever, I hope.
I’m still withholding on who the hostage in question for Side A is, but know this: No Varric nor Warhounds were harmed in the making of this match!
@Master Sarge and Doc Lowk(if you arrive in time, that is)
www.mangahere.com/manga/hack_g_u/v01/c001/19.html
This cited link from the G.U+ Manga, which the site already knows the copyrights and all that jazz(mixed with further jazz on how its in a lower-tier in dot.hack canon compared to the Prequel Anime or the Games, but its still canon in its own right!) is particularly of use, given how I may grant that its possible that those who have the Fighter!-Hawke instances of bloodlust may or may not have the certification that Hawke may have an overall edge in bloodlust(via control of how to maintain discipline rather than merely weaponization of it) but to say that Haseo is exactly far behind in that regard in here, is either under payroll from someone else or isn’t right in the head.
Correcting the former of the 2 would just be doing business, correcting the latter would be doing a favor to factpile in the long run.
Also, please be aware that I am aware that neither side is invincible, if this is what you are asking, there are beings who can actually wipe either across the floor if they play their cards right with the right skills(John Carter, for one?) but I digress.
So far, the flow of comment conduct is doing alright…somewhat, I can only hope it’ll hold out.
Guess I’m obligated to post.
Hi guys, sorry for my inactivity. Anyway, the way I was believing this was imagined, despite Xth Form Haseo being the picture, was more of a 3rd Form Haseo (no guns) vs Hawke.
@Corpsman Dualgunner
I actually wouldn’t mind if 3rd form Haseo might wind up being used as long as its not a stomp-fest on either side’s favor, either way.(I’m thinking about it, still, just know that its agreed that its Post-2nd form Haseo that’s to be used for sure, NQA=No questions asked, alright?)
Whoever survives from this STILL has to give Meredith the 2nd finger, you know!
Meantime, shall we start with the foe quality for both sides, and just TRY to leave either Cubia or the Ancient Evil out of this, since the former is a counterpart to Typhon, the Father of All Monsters(AKA Big Beast that the 3 sons of Kronos had to deal with) and the latter is, in scope, just as bad a threat albeit maybe or maybe not in scale?
@Corpsman Dualgunner
A surefire reminder I forgot to ask, is it alright if you can explain exactly WHO the hostage Hawke’s fighting to save is?
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightTemplarBigBrother
This is probably a hint for those who might ask.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NobleTopEnforcer
Well I know this much, on Side A, the guy for that is more or less in the position of a ‘mercenary’ variation of the Noble Top Enforcer, which feels fitting, in a way.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDreaded
On the other hand, while above-mentioned dude from Side A may also qualify to a degree, Side B is already famous to such a degree that just attempting, let alone succeeding, to befriend the guy and earn enough of his trust would be a feat all on its own, Pre-Xth form days at least if we’re using that(yes, it would be a feat for Atoli even if its not combat-orientated!Silibus and Gaspard, while good, are just lucky they have Kuhn covering their backs, but I digress!) and as I stated before elsewhere, he fought the-guy-in-red(Azure Kite of the Azure Knights), who’s more or less akin to a Knight of the Cross from the Dresden Files in terms of purpose.(except the Azure Knights seem…deadish, somehow!)
This match might seem rather…frightning to a degree, when one factors in possible fridge horrors that are already happening, isn’t it?
When the bulk of the backing for either side arrives, I’ll know that its when the match can really begin in earnest.
“”No. All mages must be dealt with.” Meredith replied, folding her arms. “How about a…game?””
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lol @Meredith proposing a game.
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““We have a Champion, you know. A warrior of untold power.” Meredith replied. “If you can beat him at his best, you can have your mage back. It will be a battle to the death.””
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Wait, Meredith is complimenting Hawke. The guy that parades around with free mages as friends. I didn’t know she could do that.
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Anyway the only thing Hawke would have here is the arrow rain thing and various types of smoke bomds he could hide behind. Other then that if the guns are actually firing bullets I don’t think Hawke’s armor is going to hold out against it.
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“Datadrain followed by guns.”
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I get the guns.. but Hawke isn’t data, he’s flesh and blood. How would datadrain effect him?
@Doc Lowk
Let’s just say its going to be a very long tale between what happened when and now.
Also as stated before, both sides are allowed to have their capabilities at optimal effectiveness, would you believe me if I said that to get hit with a double trigger in Freeze Shot is the proverbal equivalent of getting an Inverted version of Soul Fire from the Dresden Files, E.G getting hit by it?
As for Meredith…let’s just say that she has sadistic plans for both fighters in here, and like I warned before, whoever survives from this bloody fight, is not only gonna need a reminder to grant the other a proper warrior’s funeral to the deceased they just slain, but will also need to send Meredith the flipper, I’m telling you she has the Sadism to rival Umbridge yet would be like the proverbal equivalent of Pyramid Head if Pyramid Head was a Khornate Berzerker!
And this is coming from a guy who believes that PH has a shot to speed-blitz Sauron.
P.S: By the way, at least you’re here, at least that way things will begin to heat up!
“I get the guns.. but Hawke isn’t data, he’s flesh and blood. How would datadrain effect him?”Since it was stated unlike the itachi vs dante match.
He may not be data, but it’s allowed to work in this match.
“Both sides’ abilities + Powers will work for them against their enemy in this fight to the death,”
“By the way, at least you’re here, at least that way things will begin to heat up!”
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Meh, guns pretty much equals a win unless we take lightning speed literal.
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Speed
In that case you can tell it isn’t.
The bonus is much to small and the description says nothing about moving like lightning.
It’s just the name of the skill.
so has Haseo won yet?
“so has Haseo won yet?”
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Yup
Award time then?
@Doc Lowk
More like its not exactly over, there is still more that needs discussing.
How sharp are their records as one-man armies without factoring in Haseo’s Xth form if we’re talking either 3rd Form!-Haseo or Haseo’s G.U+ Manga incarnations and Hawke’s stated available Rogue trees for the match?
I know that neither are lacking in terms of fighting with CQC weaponry, and actually I wouldn’t mind if the main deciding point in combat comes down to CQC, personally.
I wasn’t out to suggest an outright stompfest, its not my style nor is it my way.
@Admiral
Not yet, this match feels too short, for differing reasons from that case with the prototype for Dresden vs Space Marine, this time.
If I mention before that the hostage Hawke is fighting to save is a surviving sibling of his(and I rather Corpsman Dualgunner is the one to say this!) would you believe me?
“Award time then?”
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Stomp.
Successful spite thread is successful
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Hooray!
Haseo 3rd form has no guns.
Wait wait wait… I’ve been in Mexico all week without Internet, so I haven’t been able to jump to Hawkes aid. But I’m back.
Okay never mind. Fucking idiots made Hawke a rouge… Easily the worst class in the game.
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Commander Cross did this just to irk me didn’t he? Get me a Mage match man. A REAL match, not a spite match
Hooray for successful classic spite threads!
Look, we tried to not make it a spite thread. Apparently that did not work. The reason we chose Rogue Hawke was because Haseo is also a Rogue typed-class, albeit Rogue in his world means “Able to Wield Everything”.
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If it would work as a better match with a Mage Hawke, then he’ll be Mage Hawke.
Regardless of the class or stipulations it doesn’t disguise its purpose as a spite thread to get revenge on Hawke for beating Potter (yeah, that was this threads original purpose)
@Dr. Doctor
Trust me, I never wanted an outright spite match, that is far from my style in general.
I’ll be willing to split the matter into two sub-scenarios, one where Haseo has to fight Rogue Hawke, and the other where he has to fight Mage!-Hawke, and if he’s fighting the latter, he’ll DEFINITELY be using the Xth form and will be using armor modded with the World Mirror Mod, which = forget the tartarus about trying to paralyze Haseo or any other illusion of inflicting negative aliments on him.
Either way, I don’t do spite fights outright, the Master Sarge and the General can testify.
Grief-based matches are worse, and you know this, I know this, a Chamelion would know this.
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@Admiral
You there?
Cross whats the point? You knew Haseo would win handily why did you suggest it in the first place? Honestly I find it pitiful that you dislike Hawke beats one of your favored combatants then suggest a match where Hawke gets owned to make yourself feel better
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Btw, spite threads are easy to spot and stipulations and different classes don’t change anything, nor do they disguise its original purpose
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Either way it changes nothing
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Haseo>Hawke>>>Harry Potter. ‘Nuff said
@S.R
Grief-Based matches are worse.
There’s no room to talk after plotting out a purposefully bad match on your part.
Like I said before, if the match winds up being bad, I’ll pay for it, but I’ll let the Mods or the General deal with me as they see fit, or at least let the Master Sarge do it as a friend(just don’t hold back!)
The reason for that, was to actually plan out the epic match that 2 of the 3 november incidents…just were downright not and desperately should have been!
Trust me, one could tell that 2 out of the 3 on the list(the only possible exception being Shepard vs Fett, which is being somewhat salvaged I hope!) did not feel planned out at all, as well as to ignore regards to equipment.
Next time you plan to have a match, have the decency to try to let the others in on it as well with a word of warning! (facepalm)
I’ll go and get the medication, I’ll be interrogated roughly after this, but just….not now.
Should it be a pure melee/magic fight, instead of allowing haseo’s guns?
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I know it’s over, but I hate stomps.
@Mess
So do I, Mess, So do I.
If we’re still using Rogue Hawke, I agree that it should be a Pure Melee fight, if its Mage Hawke, Haseo gets Data Drain to access(its akin to being hit with an inverted version of Soulfire) I don’t like suggesting outright stomps, the only time when its necessary is either when someone crossed the line or if its aimed at the twilight universe.
You’re welcome to ask the General to interrogate me, I’ll be punished accordingly if he wishes if the mods don’t do it, I wasn’t out to do a stompfight so much as I was trying to do a win-worthy match even if its not awarded.
lol you won’t get punished for creating this spite thread. Some people just find it a waste of suggestions.
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Not me though, I just like chaos so any match’ll do for me, including this one and other poorly thought out ones like Murder’s. Bring them on in spades I say.
Heh. You would like Dresden.
Dresden’s okay, if extremely unimpressive. I’m thinking about looking at the t.v. series or something since I’m not much into books.
I want more Gavin Guile.
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He’s at least Haseo’s equal.
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Before you ask, commander, here is a description of the series.
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Black_Prism&useformat=desktop
Go to the bottom, that’s where the powers n’ stuff is.
The book Dresden is way more BA.
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Not to brag, but he might kick haseo’s but.
I wasn’t out to suggest an outright Spite match, its a wonder how it was even CONTAINED to not wind up being an exploded Grief-Based match, which I warned Doc Lowk on how much worse Grief-Based matches are, in terms of volume!
Grief-Based Matches>>>>….>>>Mere Spite matches in terms of which is worse in the long run of things, but either way=Cold mugs to drink out!
@Mess
I still like Dresden.
‘People are looking for something…they just didn’t know what’-Storm Front, Chapter 01.
Either way, this is another no-award needed ordeal, that part I can live with, what I may not be able to do without contentment is to find meaningful completion, like bringing up non-combat feats in the things both sides DID do right, and PRAY that neither side will ignore them.(for instance, I agree to throw the hounds in here bones used to play fetch with, I feel I’m already a shade of Gray to begin with…not like I wasn’t feeling gray last year since Summer, but I feel grayer!)
The fact that I’m willing to accept that either side would have to have even a shred of badassery at minimum to come here, should be enough to confirm I am willing to grant credit where its due.
If Mata is reading this, I pray he is aware that none of the 4 match suggestors(myself included, in fact whatever faults Mata may find in the others may he take it out on me as he sees fit if he likes!) intended for an outright stomp!-fest so much as we were at least aiming for a fairly decent match. T_T
If he does not find me trying, he has the right to just simply say so, and I’ll willingly leave the topia for 1 day of my own free will, no Tempo-ban necessary.
If he does and is aware that I was fighting to prevent myself from allowing this to be the Grief-Based match it would have been(or at least MORE outright a case, anyhow) then I wish for his assistance or at least his assurance to know I am trying to be the best that I can be as an honest factpiler, even if my methods are….dissonant from everyone else.
Why lie.
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“Hawke requires a beating from Haseo before I can suggest having either against Dresden”
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“I may want to see Haseo just go ahead and mutilate Hawke with Overkill, but a little justification for that can go a long way, frankly!”
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“…having a Modicum of respect for Hawke, when he gets smashed to a bloody pulp by Haseo, until then, he’s about as bad as Richard Rahl in terms of offenses”
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“What’s that got to do with Haseo castrating Hawke literally, ripping his head out”
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“Haseo decapitating Hawke and robbing him of his arms all blood-lusted and such” (this was a picture suggestion, so not quite the same as others)
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– Topia Nuggets.
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I say just tape a picture of Hawke to your punching bag.
That is a little harsh, isn’t it?
Maybe you could play to the end of Dragon Age 2, and then just sit your controller down on the last boss fight lol
@Mess
Maybe, but that’s neither here nor there.(I’d agree that Dresden, no doubt, is a bigger man than Haseo is, overall at a personal level, and the latter in Xth form can hold his own against children of the 3 sons of Kronos, mono-a-mono if the match is done right!)
Gavin’s series isn’t completed, yet, don’t want to rush things now and risk a Energy-Drench match(where one is hyped up on too much energy drinks to think clearly) in this case, do we?
I’ll just await Mata’s confirmation to determine if he finds my fellow match suggestors and I to be telling the truth that we weren’t trying to suggest an outright spite match(or far worse than that, a Grief-based one, which I fear that this match might have became anyway, albeit more borderline than the outright example it would have been!) if I must choose between helping to balance out the match for sake of the feeling of completeness(regardless if we’re still using Rogue Hawke or Mage Hawke, but I already made my warnings on the latter quite clear) and letting things go unchecked like they are and get left with an incomplete feeling, I’ll stick with the former more than the latter, alright?(Hey, at least it means we can beat out Boba Fett vs Shepard in terms of turning the overall direction of the match in terms of worthwhileness around if this pulls through!)
Either way, its already made explictly clear Side A isn’t fighting Ill-equipped and relatively barely-trained reckless cases in here, he’s fighting properly-equipped, properly field-tested and properly-trained reckless cases like Side B is consisting of!
@Mess
I felt too much grief…90% of Past me feels akin to what Doctor Nine is to Doctor Ten….who am I, now mentally rather than emotionally speaking, I don’t know.
I cannot afford to run away from my past, I must make peace with it, or it will kill me for sure.
“Dresden’s okay, if extremely unimpressive.”
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The man can incinerate a people to bones/ash, knock the flesh from your face in a single shot, and can take a beatings from monsters day after day and keep going.
He’s like a reinforced glass cannon.
@Doc Lowk
I don’t want to run away from my past.
I want to end the fact my past is pursuing me so I can find a way to earn the right to make peace with it, one way or another.
Which is another reason among others why I had to suggest the match(yes, there’s truth to this, too) there are too many demons in my own past I want to set straight.
Didn’t I also warn that in outright deathmatches, I tend to be ‘a bit’ of a pragmatist of the reluctant kind?
@Lowk
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Standards. I say if you can’t go FTL or physically planet bust, you may as well put on a dress.
Seriously though Dresden stinks. I do however like the revolver-toting wizard shtick, and did happen to find the first (only?) season on a streaming website, so I’ll probably have a look at it in a little.
@CC
That was a bit dramatic. Chill man.
images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/8415049.jpg
I don’t’ think anyone is.
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This will probably just fade. Then Haeso will have a new (maybe better match) then this will all be forgotten like the other forgotten introductory matches that didn’t do to well.
“Standards. I say if you can’t go FTL or physically planet bust, you may as well put on a dress.”
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lol
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“Seriously though Dresden stinks.”
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goldenbookwyrm.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/harry-dresden-on-a-zombie-t-rex.jpg
Well he’s a wizard on an undead t-rex. He can’t be all that bad.
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“and did happen to find the first (only?) season on a streaming website, so I’ll probably have a look at it in a little.”
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I remember it being on scifi and passing it up as one of there horrible ideas. If it’s anything like the book though it should be pretty good.
Ok, so I read up on this and think I have a fairly good idea on what’s what here. Keep in mind, though, that I am not familiar with either of these combatants, but I do indeed feel like there was no intent on suggesting an outright stomp.
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So… how do we go from here? You guys tell me how you think this could be balanced out – if at all – and I will do my best to accomodate. I’d like to hear from both the original suggesters, and those who disagree with their determination.
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Once we sort this out, I’ll change the scenario with whatever we decide is fair here.
@Teal
Don’t judge based on the series, its far from faithful.
Thats why I only ever use the book version, he’s far more powerful than in the show.
@Mata:
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Thank you for giving us a second chance. Based on what has been said here, Haseo should be in Third Form, not Xth Form as depicted by the image. Also, “all powers work” should be removed from the scenario, so Haseo cannot use Skeith or Data Drain on Hawke.
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We chose Rogue Hawke, which contradictory to what Broadwine said is my favorite class of Hawke, because we felt it would be the best match for Haseo. That was not so, so Mage Hawke would be a better candidate for this match.
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Just in case it wasn’t clear, my username is Dualgunner on the topia, that one was used on the suggestion for whatever reason.
@Mata
Thanks a lot.
@Corpsman Dualgunner
You ready to fight this thing through to the bitter end?
I sure as Hell itself am!
Hey, I’m starting to feel like Yusuke Urameshi after his heart grew 3+ sizes.
In preparation for this fight (for I knew it would one day come) I had watched some .hack stuff on YouTube (all posted on the topia by our friend CC)
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I believe the only way to un-stomp this match would be to take guns away from Haseo, and that he can only be in his most regular form… And I’m not sure what that is… But nothing like he would be in say, a final boss fight.
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Hawke should be a Mage, because we can get feats and what not easier that way, but he could also be a warrior, and I think we could make this work. NOT A ROUGE! Dragon Age rouges are retarded.
@Broadwine:
My playthrough as a Rogue was my best playthrough in DA2. Personal preference plays out there. But like I’ve said a few times, Mage Hawke and gunless Haseo to make it fair.
@Corpsman Dualgunner
Either way, I’m aiming for as fair a fight as I can manage, believe me Corpsman.
Rogue Hawke vs Haseo with mainly CQC weapons and skills would be a fun match to think about, because then they both have loved ones who are Mages to go and save, respectively(Fighter!-Hawke*Rogue or Warrior* has Bethany Hawke, Mage!-verse gets Carver, whom I can’t say I’d like as much, if I ever hear more about him, but either way, let’s just say I can tolerate the surviving Sibling in question more than I can tolerate the rest of their family in general…you’re a better person than me, Dr. Doctor!)
Mage!-Hawke on the other hand…still no mercy, except Haseo also fought against things that’s more or less AKIN to BloodMancy before, during the G.U era.(AIDA infused beings, anyone?)
How would Dovakiin have done against this Haseo guy?
@Officer N.Z
It’d be a cool fight, to be sure, but just in case, guns or not, if the Dovahkin can keep enough of a meaningful distance against Haseo for the Dragonshouts, then Skeith’s use can be badly weakened if Haseo’s unleashed him in the method used in the Games(highest canon overall) and vulnerable if he uses the method shown in the G.U+ Manga(still canon in its own right)
Either way, I’d save it for another time, Officer N.Z, I’d take you on the offer for consideration, just not yet.
Eh, I was just wondering.
@Officer N.Z
True enough.
But JIC, between you and me, I’m hoping for Haseo to get the chance to fight Harry Dresden, to be honest.
You and General Blood-Dancer notwithstanding….Dresden also made me wish I had a dad like that.
You….wish I was your dad?
@Officer N.Z
Words to that effect, yes.
Admittedly I’m terrible at finding good father figures.
Oh….alright.