Rhonin Vs Gavin Guile

Rhonin Vs Gavin Guile

Suggested by Nuredhelion

This fights marks the debut of both characters here on FactPile. While Rhonin hails from the World of Warcraft franchise, Gavin Guile arrives from a book series named The Black Prism, written by Brent Weeks.

I always enjoy learning about new characters and worlds, and after doing some research on The Black Prism, I’ve added it to my reading list.

Anyways, to the battle:

Setting: Midday on a sunny day below Dalaran in the Crystalsong Forest (WOW).

Who would win?

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42 Comments on "Rhonin Vs Gavin Guile"

  1. Lightning February 20, 2012 at 7:21 am -      #1

    FIRST!!!!!

  2. Lightning February 20, 2012 at 7:22 am -      #2

    Don’t know much about Rhonin except hes a good archmage.

  3. Eric Gigliotti February 20, 2012 at 9:01 am -      #3

    FIRST!!!!!

  4. itcheyness February 20, 2012 at 10:04 am -      #4

    Hey Lightning, you know what they say: first is the worst…

  5. Commander Cross February 20, 2012 at 11:43 am -      #5

    Don’t we have a fight to discuss?

  6. Sauroposeidon February 20, 2012 at 11:44 am -      #6

    …seriously lightning?

  7. Commander Cross February 20, 2012 at 11:49 am -      #7

    Can we get the buffs for both sides in there, already?

  8. Soulerous February 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm -      #8

    Hmm, this is interesting. I didn’t expect to see Rhonin, of all people, on this site. I can’t post a lot now, but I do intend on reading up on what I’ve forgotten of his magical feats.
    =
    I know nothing of Gavin Guile.

  9. Commander Cross February 20, 2012 at 2:46 pm -      #9

    Does anyone else want in on this fight?

  10. Lightning February 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm -      #10

    Sry for the minor retardedness I just posted…. Just had to do it once.:D

  11. Murder February 20, 2012 at 8:32 pm -      #11

    Last!!1!!!!

  12. itcheyness February 21, 2012 at 12:02 am -      #12

    After some research I just realized something, The Black Prism is the first book in a trilogy, the other two books in it aren’t out yet…

  13. Commander Cross February 21, 2012 at 12:10 am -      #13

    @Itchey

    You mean…the match arrived far too soon???

  14. itcheyness February 21, 2012 at 12:13 am -      #14

    Yeah, the second book is due out in September and the third book currently doesn’t have a fixed title.

  15. Commander Cross February 21, 2012 at 12:16 am -      #15

    @Itchey

    Yet we ran into another Rushed-up match HOW???
    The ratio for such rushed matches should have been lowered, by now. ;_;

  16. itcheyness February 21, 2012 at 12:30 am -      #16

    Oh well, I guess we could just use the info from the first book. If anyone’s read it…

  17. Commander Cross February 21, 2012 at 12:39 am -      #17

    @Itchey

    Let’s do that.
    In regards to other rushed matches, I find even Jason vs Jace actually better than Jason vs Eragon, actually(but maybe that’s because I got a few people who arrived on factpile to get here!) so what are Guile’s abilities?

  18. Nuredhelion February 21, 2012 at 4:44 pm -      #18

    Woohooo it was posted :D

    @Commander Cross
    Regarding the abilities of Gavin Guile:
    He is the highest instance in Chromaturgy, the art of transforming light into different colored materials called Luxin.

    Some examples:
    Every color of Luxin has special atributes. Red Luxin is is sticky, gooey, and extremely flammable. A ball of red Luxin thrown at a target can be ignited with Sub-Red Luxin wich turns into fire when it has contact with air when it’s coated with another Luxin like yellow which rapidly turns back into light, and like that be used as a bomb.

    Blue Luxin on the other side is hard, strong, and smooth. It can be transformed into blades, projectiles, armor and so on.

    The springy and flexible green Luxin can, beside many other things, used for going green golem.

    A quote from the book regarding the green golem:
    “[…]
    Not that she could have done much to help him. At the Chromeria, they called what Kip had done going green golem. At one time, they had taught it as a war magic. No longer.
    There were three problems with going green golem. First, you couldn’t seal the green luxin. If you did, you couldn’t move. Some drafters got around that by making big sealed plates and just holding the joints in open green. What Kip was doing was much harder. He was holding all the magic at once. It took enormous focus, and the armor was only as hard as his will. If someone broke his focus, he’d lose his armor instantly. Second, using that much green luxin burned out drafters fast. In the False Prism’s War, Karris had heard of green drafters breaking the halo after going green golem only three or four times. Third, you had to be strong as a bull. The suit—the armor, the golem, whatever it was—had weight. For the drafter, it was less because their will took part of the weight, but they still had to move an enormous hunk of luxin. That said, using open green in the legs did mean that a skilled user could make enormous bounds, and once they got moving, they were nearly impossible to stop.
    […]”

    Most Drafters (people who can transform Light into Luxin) are able to transform only one color, some, the Bichromes, are able to transform 2 colors, only a few are Polychromes, who have the ability to transform 3 or more colors (never all of them!). But there always (well read the book and you will learn that not exactly always) is only one Prism, who can transform all colors without limitation. (Except for his/her stamnia, of which the Prism in question, Gavin Guile seems to have quite a lot). A special feat of the Prism is, that he/she doesn’t need to “see” the color to create a specific colored Luxin, like the other Drafters. (For example normal Drafters wear glasses colored in their respective color – red drafters wear red glasses etc. – to create Luxin)


    Gavin Guile is used to fight with his abilities and has alone fended of large troups of soldiers as well as many dangerous beeings known as Color Wights, Drafters who have gone cracy and are consumed by their color, but have the ability to constantly alter their physics with their respective colored Luxin. (Color Wights also have almost no limit in creating Luxin of theirs color(s))

    Since it’s quite late i hope i could give you at least a rough overview.

  19. Nuredhelion February 21, 2012 at 4:46 pm -      #19

    Since I am not sure, if it’s allowed, I’ll seperatly post following link, wich shows a bit more information on the topic (I think there are some spoilers too!):
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Prism
    Good Fight, Good Night,
    Nuredhelion

  20. Soulerous February 21, 2012 at 8:33 pm -      #20

    The following quotes should you give you an idea as to what Rhonin is capable of.
    =
    The two reached the denser area, but the lead rider was nearly upon them. Turning about, Rhonin shouted a single word.
    A blinding ball of pure force struck the night elf square in the chest, sending him flying back off his steed and into the trunk of a tree with a resounding crash.
    ” -The Well of Eternity, page 45.
    =
    Rhonin reached into his belt pouch and from it drew what first looked like a band of glowing quicksilver. The quicksilver swiftly coalesced into a gleaming blade, a gift to Rhonin from an elven commander at the end of the war.
    In the light of the wizard’s blade, the haughty expression of the night elves’ leader transformed into surprise. Nonetheless, he met Rhonin’s sword with his own.
    Crimson and silver sparks flared. Rhonin’s entire body shook. The night elf nearly slipped from the saddle. The panther roared, but because of his rider could not reach their foe with his razor sharp claws.
    They traded blows again. A wizard Rhonin might be, but he had learned over his life the value of being able to fight by hand. Vereesa had trained him so that even among seasoned warriors he could hold his own…and with the elven blade he stood a good chance of success against any one foe.
    ” -The Well of Eternity, page 46.
    =
    And suddenly there was a robed figure with red hair standing next to her. He wrapped his arms around the draenei before she could react.
    “Damn it! You’re not her!”
    Before she could respond, the cavern chamber disappeared. Iridi cried out in frustration. “No!”
    She was outside again. Outside the mount that she had so desperately tried to enter.
    ” -Night of the Dragon, page 91.
    =
    And then, to the utter surprise of everyone—but especially the skardyn—a new menace materialized near the captured dragon, a menace of the likes Grenda could only imagine out of her nightmares.
    A raptor…raptors…
    Grenda counted two, then three, then four or more. She could swear that they literally popped into existence, for what else would explain their sudden, impossible presence in here of all places.
    The raptors faced away from the dragon, striking at the nearest skardyn with wild abandon. Caught off-guard, the nearest skardyn perished in a quick ripping of flesh. And as the reptiles turned the battle to utter chaos, a more familiar figure appeared near the bound leviathan: Iridi, the draenei, but not alone. With her was a human who bore the look of a wizard, a human with thick, red hair.
    ” –Night of the Dragon, page 114.
    =
    Then, from one of the lower passages, half a dozen dragonspawn led by a drakonid charged toward Iridi and Rhonin. A raptor materialized next to one of the dragonspawn and immediately attacked. Grenda noticed that Rhonin had gestured at the same time.” –Night of the Dragon, page 115.
    =
    In order to display his stubborn personality:
    Rhonin and Iridi turned in the direction from which it had come to see the tall, slim lady in black. The scars on the one side of her face were evident to them even through the veil.
    “You’re a dragon,” Rhonin commented.
    Iridi showed no surprise at this; after what had happened to Krasus and Kalec, that this female was more than she appeared made perfect sense.
    “Very good, Rhonin Redhair,” the dragon in mortal guise purred. “And do you know what dragon?”
    The wizard shrugged, his demeanor quite calm considering that he stood amidst a chaotic battle of dwarves, skardyn, dragonspawn, drakonid, and raptors.
    “You have that admirable disposition and manner of dark dress that means you must belong to Deathwing’s flight.” He pursed his lips in thought, then nodded. “And since you’re not the rabid dog or his two worst pups, I’d hazard by your grand posturing that you must be one of his prime bitches….”
    The lady in black scowled, taken aback by the human’s daring affront.
    ” –Night of the Dragon, page 121.
    =
    Sinestra gestured.
    A Shockwave rushed over all there, including the black dragon’s own minions. Not one creature
    was left standing, so powerful was the invisible wave.
    Not one creature…save Rhonin. His face was pale, yes, and his legs wobbled, but he still stood.
    “If you think…me the same impetuous upstart…who came here to deal with your mate,” he rasped. “You’re…you’re only half-right.”
    ” –Night of the Dragon, page 121 & 122.
    =
    Rhonin made no promises, mostly because he hoped to do just that. He stared at the dragon, which had quickly followed them up, muttering the words of power. At the last moment, the wizard glanced at the clouds above.
    A single bolt of lightning shot down, striking at the pursuing giant.
    ” –Day of the Dragon, page 64.
    =
    Yet, just as death came within inches of her, the dragon suddenly pulled back his claws and began squirming in midair. The claws raked against his own torso. In fact, every set of claws was trying to scratch somewhere, anywhere, as if—as if the leviathan suffered an incredibly painful itch. Atop him, the orc struggled for control, but he might as well have been the very flea that seemed to trouble the dragon for all the beast obeyed him now.
    Vereesa stopped and stared, never having witnessed so startling a sight. The dragon twisted and turned as he tried to relieve his agony, his actions growing more and more frantic. His orc handler could barely hold on. What, the elf wondered, could have caused the monster so much—
    The answer came out as a whisper. “Rhonin?”

    And
    All the while, the dragon soared overhead, tearing at its hide. Once Vereesa glanced up and saw that he had even managed to draw blood, his own claws one of the few things capable of ripping through his armored skin. Of the orc she saw no more sign; at some point the tusked warrior must have lost his grip and fallen. Vereesa felt no remorse for him.
    “What did you do to the dragon?” she finally managed to gasp.
    Rhonin, intent on finding the end of the blaze, did not even look back at her. “Something that didn’t turn out the way I planned! He should’ve suffered more than an intense irritation!”
    ” –Day of the Dragon, page 16.
    =
    Rhonin can fire balls of concussive force, teleport himself and others, withstand powerful spells, summon lightning bolts, and has a magical sword, which he is proficient in using. He also can apparently cause intense and painful itching in even such massive and magical beats as dragons, but I can’t say what it would do to a normal human.
    =
    That Luxin stuff sounds pretty creative though, and I don’t know if Rhonin can take Gavin, but he is a powerful wizard as far as Warcraft humans go.

  21. Soulerous February 22, 2012 at 8:43 pm -      #21

    Judging by the lack of comments, I take it no one cares to argue. Rhonin wins, then?

  22. Nuredhelion February 25, 2012 at 3:49 am -      #22

    Well, I’d say after a intense fight with much firepower and solid defenses on both side Gavin wins with a booby trap made of several balls made of blue luxin filled with yellow luxin and a opening mechanism triggered by a superviolet string.

    The basic concept can be taken from following quote:

    “You know what superviolet is great for?” Gavin asked. “Tripping people.” Every girl in the class grinned guiltily. All had done that at one time or another. “No, seriously. The pranks are where you learn to apply your color in ways no one else has thought of. You have to be a little bad to make history. Sealed superviolet isn’t as strong as blue or green, but it weighs almost nothing, and for Orholam’s sake, it’s invisible!” Gavin drafted a hollow superviolet egg the size of his hand. He winced for an instant, as if something was paining him. “The trick with yellow, Liv, is to understand how it releases its power. So, into the middle of this egg, draft liquid yellow.” He did. “The important bit is to leave absolutely no air inside the container. It has to be solid.” He closed it while looking at the girls, not paying attention. He’d just left an air bubble in the egg. He hadn’t noticed.

    “If it’s solid, totally airtight, then even if you shake it—”

    Liv raised her hand, opened her mouth, but she was too slow.

    Gavin shook the egg. It exploded with a blinding flash.

    Everyone hit the ground.

    Before Liv even opened her eyes, she heard Gavin laughing. Was he insane? She looked up, but his hair wasn’t even ruffled. “Now,” Gavin said. “If that egg had been made of blue luxin, when it shattered we’d all have been cut to pieces. But as you all know in your heads—if not in your hearts or your bodies, apparently—sealed superviolet frays easily. Not that it can’t be useful.” With a speed and facility that stunned Liv, he drafted another egg and filled it with liquid yellow luxin.

    Rhonin pushing Gavin back with volleys of Fireballs which Gavin fends off with an shield drafted of blue luxin. Avoiding the various, and obviously harmfull blue balls he couldnt see the superviolet strings which connected those balls…

    This trap was a desperate last efford made by Gavin, because after a long fight sunset draw near, and with the sun gone, and only minor light sources left (although there are always lights left in Crystalsong Forest) he would have lost a considerable amount of fightingpower and ultimately the fight.

    So i give Gavin the win, but a close one.

  23. Nuredhelion February 25, 2012 at 4:00 am -      #23

    Sorry i messed with the cursive.

  24. Soulerous February 25, 2012 at 5:07 am -      #24

    Italics.
    =
    How does Gavin survive a lightning bolt striking his head? Or… keep from bursting in to flames, for that matter?

  25. Nuredhelion February 25, 2012 at 5:27 am -      #25

    oh… ok, then i messed with the italics :)

    As much as i got from the book Drafters can cover their whole body in Luxin, and as each Luxin has certain abilities i consider for example blue as fire resistant. In worst case, it is not Fire resistant it can be used to extinguish the fire by seperating it from oxigen by covering it.

    Hmmm I don’t really know what to say about the conductivity of Luxin…

    That said I’ll admit an advantage of Rhonin, because i cant prove Luxin is resistant to electricity.

    Guess Rhonin isn’t archmage because of connections ;)

  26. Messmaker March 21, 2012 at 1:27 pm -      #26

    Gavin wins.
    superchromat.
    if he goes all out,
    which is entirely possible, he can become essentially an invincible, extremely rational/smart opponent.

  27. Messmaker March 21, 2012 at 1:28 pm -      #27

    has the second book come out yet?

  28. Nuredhelion March 21, 2012 at 2:43 pm -      #28

    Nope, “THE BLINDING KNIFE is the second book in The Lightbringer Series. It will be released in Fall 2012″ Still some time till the release.

    Well Gavins damage output is extreme, but the question wich occurred was, how luxin reacts to for example lightning… it’s conductivity so to say. And Rhonin is no weakling himselfe as Soulerous explained before…

  29. Messmaker March 21, 2012 at 2:51 pm -      #29

    Red luxin would probably blow up, blue would conduct, green & yellow insullate. Orange would probably insulate to.
    What about thermal resistance and physical resistance? Any ideas?

  30. Soulerous September 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm -      #30

    I don’t see Rhonin losing this.
    ~
    “No!”Utilizing raw will, Rhonin countered, throwing up a shield as powerful as any he had ever created.
    The dark flames struck the invisible barrier with their full fury . . . and rebounded back at the golem.
    Rhonin would not have expected the creature’s own weapon to have any effect on it, but the flames not only took hold of their wielder, they coursed over him with hunger. A roar erupted from the golem’s fleshless throat, an ungodly, inhuman roar.
    The monstrous creature quivered—then exploded, unleashing magical forces of hurricane proportion into the tiny mountain chamber.
    Unable to withstand those forces, what remained of the ceiling collapsed atop the defenders.
    ” -Day of the Dragon, page 168.
    ~
    An incredible pressure pushed down on Rhonin’s head, a pressure so immense he felt as if at any moment his skull would burst open. With some effort, he forced his eyes open, trying to see if he could find out what pressed on him and how he could quickly remove it.
    Turning his blurry gaze upward, he gasped.
    An avalanche of rock—literally a ton and more— floated just a foot or so above his head. A dim radiance, the only visible sign of the shield he had cast earlier, revealed the one reason why he had not been crushed to pulp.
    ” -Page 172.
    ~
    Add his powerful shield to his ability to cast lightning, balls of force, and slice with an enchanted sword, I’m fairly confident that Rhonin would triumph over Gavin Guile.

  31. ptaine September 19, 2012 at 9:58 pm -      #31

    ”Add his powerful shield to his ability to cast lightning, balls of force, and slice with an enchanted sword, I’m fairly confident that Rhonin would triumph over Gavin Guile”

    You know, this fight definitely needs to wait until the next book comes out because as it stands right now Gavin gets stomped, hard. Really fun books though.

  32. Soulerous September 22, 2012 at 12:09 am -      #32

    Alright, but as Rhonin has just died in lore, I’m going to take this opportunity to add another item to his feat list.
    ~
    The eight-legged horror leapt around the frozen fire, howling as it charged the human.
    Rhonin cast.
    The earth beneath the abomination exploded, a storm of dirt rising up and covering the lupine creature. It howled again and, despite the intense forces against it, struggled toward the mage. A crust formed over the legs and torso. The mouth shut tight as a layer of rock-solid earth sealed it. One by one, the inhuman orbs were covered by a film of dust.
    Just a few feet from its victim, the creature stilled. To all appearances, it now seemed but a perfectly cast statue, not the actual monster itself.
    ” -The Well of Eternity, page 26.
    ~
    So, some form of entrapment via stony shell.

  33. Nuredhelion January 19, 2013 at 7:26 pm -      #33

    Damnit… the book (the blinding knive) will be here in about 2 days (german edition)… I so fu****g hope Dazen will prevail… but Rhonin – once again – proved to be – (has been) – a hard opponent (see Jaina Proudmore for reference)…damnit – I want to support Gavin!!!

  34. Nuredhelion May 29, 2013 at 4:26 pm -      #34

    Well, To get this to a conclusion:
    Lord Prism will loose this fight since he has no way to counter spells like Petrification (see Soulerous’s post #32) or Polymorph, unless we give any of the spectral colours a “magic-resisting” trait, but that would be mere superstition.

    Gavin/Dazen could counter “elemental”-attacks like Lightning Bolts since – for example – green Luxin clearly has shown gum-like features, wich is an isulator. Still this not enough and it’s no shame to loose vs. Rhonin – he IS a very much underestimated badass mage who never got the attention he really deserved when you look at his feats.

    I hope I’ll find a more compatible opponent for Lord Prism (maybe after book three since right now… no I’m not gonna spoiler any more here ;) The books are worth the time, so read them ‘urselfe :) – At least that’s what i think :D

  35. Epicazeroth May 30, 2013 at 4:20 pm -      #35

    Couldn’t Gavin just block the spells physically, or do they not have a physical presence?

  36. Nuredhelion May 31, 2013 at 2:55 pm -      #36

    @Epicazeroth
    …or do they not have a physical presence?

    That’s what I assume, and what I see as an unbeatable advantage of those Spells vs. Luxin-Drafter. Im quite confident that Gavin is able to counter any elemental attack that Rhonin would throw at him, but Polymorph – a Standard-Spell for Warcraft-Magi is something he can’t really handle…

    During writing this I got a hunch that Polymorph has a casting time, and is no instant… the spell even fades after a certain time, faster when damage is done to the victim…

    Oh come on, I had made my peace with this fight ^^

  37. Soulerous June 2, 2013 at 6:53 pm -      #37

    Polymorph isn’t instant, but fairly fast. This is it used in a cinematic. Rhonin has never used it in combat though, because he has much more direct methods.
    ~
    For example: “Rhonin immediately raised his
    left hand, muttering a spell that he had hoped to save for more dire circumstances.
    The nearest of the orcs, his ugly, tusked face twisting into a berserker rage, reached for the ax slung on his back. Rhonin’s spell caught him directly in the chest, throwing the massive warrior hard against the nearest rock wall.
    As the orc struck the wall, he melded into the very rock. Briefly the outline of his form remained behind, mouth still open in rage, but then even that faded into the wall . . . leaving no trace of the creature’s savage end.
    ” -Day of the Dragon, page 243.
    ~
    Rhonin could also toss Gavin around with telekinesis. They have ways to dispose of each other, it’s just that Rhonin has that shield capable of blocking over a ton of stone and the magical fire that caused said stone to fall in the first place.

  38. Nuredhelion June 3, 2013 at 5:40 am -      #38

    @Soulerous
    Rhonin could also toss Gavin around with telekinesis

    Yeah, as Petrification and Polymorph those spells, without “materia” are the real threats to Gavin.

    They have ways to dispose of each other, it’s just that Rhonin has that shield capable of blocking over a ton of stone and the magical fire that caused said stone to fall in the first place.

    True, but as I said before, I think the more “underhanded” spells and abilities will give the win here. Petrification, Polymorph and, as just added, Telekinesis pose a great thread to Gavin.

    Gavin is able to draft a “Glider” and has considerable flight experience with it, so i think he should at least be able to avoid “falling” damage after a telekinesis attack.

    There are few advantages Gavin has, one is his meele combat experience, he seems to be capable of fighting hand to hand very well too, in addition to be able to draft meele weapons at will, so closing into meele-range could be an option – easier said as done i suppose.

    There are a few open strings after the second Lightbringer-Book, which could offer some help to Gavin:

    Paryl:
    The rare drafters of the colour known as Paryl, a colour not formally acknowledged by the Chromeria, dilate their eyes in a manner not possible for most drafters; Their pupils dilate out to the point that it even the whites of their eyes are no longer visible, leaving their eyes looking completely Black in this state. Paryl cannot be perceived at all by anyone not looking for it in this way. Paryl can be used to mark targets for another Paryl drafter and to look through clothes to see hidden weapons and armour. It is rumoured to be usable in solid form, to kill, via stroke, from afar, leading to fear of Paryl drafters. Paryl is also referred to as “Dark Light.” and its place in the spectrum is far below Sub-Red.

    and
    Chi:
    Chi is the low wavelength counterpart of Paryl, invisible, rare and deadly. Drafters who draft this colour can not expect to live a long life. No current drafters of the colour are known.


    Truth be told there was no indication, that Gavin is able to use those colours… There is one example of a kill with Paryl which was quite frightening in its inevitability…

    Another feature, which was not throughly explained until now is:
    White & Black:
    White luxin is a rumored, possibly mythical, luxin which many have attempted to draft, though no one is known to have succeeded. If it exists, or is possible, its qualities and the qualities of those who draft it are unknown. Black Luxin is an equally mysterious form of Luxin, viewed as the inverse of White and supposed to be in some way related to Obsidian (Hellstone). Gavin Guile may possibly have the ability to draft white luxin, as claimed by commander Ironfist.

    (Information on those colours taken from wikipedia)


    Although only hints ’til now, there could be an advantage within this, but as a pity no nearer explanation was given, everything mere speculation… Maybe after Lightbringer 3 ;)

    Sidenote explanation: Obsidian (Hellstone) is a material that cancels all Drafting efforts. It disables all Drafting-abilities, and weakens drafters, maybe even kills them if contact is established for too long.

  39. Soulerous June 3, 2013 at 9:18 am -      #39

    Gavin is able to draft a “Glider” and has considerable flight experience with it, so i think he should at least be able to avoid “falling” damage after a telekinesis attack.
    -I’d be more worried about him being shoved into the ground and knocked out.
    ~
    There are few advantages Gavin has, one is his meele combat experience, he seems to be capable of fighting hand to hand very well too, in addition to be able to draft meele weapons at will, so closing into meele-range could be an option – easier said as done i suppose.
    -Especially since Rhonin has teleportation powers, and can easily knock foes back. But even then, he can hold his own in melee combat. He’s got his elven blade.
    ~
    By the way, did you suggest that picture of him?

  40. Nuredhelion June 3, 2013 at 10:16 am -      #40

    I’d be more worried about him being shoved into the ground and knocked out.

    Well there is still that green golem thing, wrapping oneselfe up in green luxin which would work as a puffer with it`s gum-like features…
    — —
    … But even then, he can hold his own in melee combat. He’s got his elven blade.

    Hmmm… still that is the one thing I don’t think Rhonin would have a chance. Gavin has shown some serious Fighting/Martial Arts skills and experience, and in his little chamber in the Prism Palace he does train those skills regulary…
    — —
    By the way, did you suggest that picture of him?

    Nope, none of them, I even just reallized that there is a possibility to suggest pictures, too ^^

    But the picture you added to the Factpile wiki roxx (factpile.wikia.com/wiki/Rhonin)

  41. Soulerous June 3, 2013 at 11:03 am -      #41

    Well there is still that green golem thing, wrapping oneselfe up in green luxin which would work as a puffer with it`s gum-like features…
    -But how long does it take to do that? Something tells me it’s not an instant thing, or overly close to it.
    ~
    Hmmm… still that is the one thing I don’t think Rhonin would have a chance. Gavin has shown some serious Fighting/Martial Arts skills and experience, and in his little chamber in the Prism Palace he does train those skills regulary…
    -Fair enough.
    ~
    I bring up the picture because Rhonin looks quite ugly in the one above. The one on the wiki is indeed much better.

  42. Nuredhelion June 3, 2013 at 12:31 pm -      #42

    But how long does it take to do that? Something tells me it’s not an instant thing, or overly close to it.

    Well luxin is “pouring out” of his body, as was seen when he made the yellow luxin wall… the harder part seems to be staying focused while using the green golem to not loose is, when beiing tossed around…
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    I bring up the picture because Rhonin looks quite ugly in the one above. The one on the wiki is indeed much better.

    Legit claim ;)

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