Would the Dragonborn be able to stop him?
Would Alduin join forces?
What would happen in Skyrim?
What other impact would his arrival have?
What If…Sauron Was in Skyrim?
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Oh, this’ll be fun to watch.
Indeed. So many variables here
Dragonborn would soil his drawers, that’s what.
“Dragonborn would soil his drawers, that’s what.”
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Because Dragonborn is epic
Is it just Sauron, or did he bring his army with him?
I think Dovahkin would win since he can just start at the most recent save if he dies, so he’d be bound to win eventually. Actually in all seriousness I think he could although I think it would take some serious cojones. I mean if you think about it Isildor did cut off the big bads fingers with a sharpass sword, plus Dovahkin can go invisible although I dunno if that’d help (if you had 100 sneaking i don’t think even sauron could see you).
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Meh alduin should be dead I wtfpwned him. But I don’t think he’d join forces with dovakin anyway.
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Skyrim would become shittier and more depressed looking and there would be shit loads more fighting, and Mehrunes Dagon would cream himself
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Well after you beat alduin you gain the support of several dragons, so I think dovahkin could utilize them to get to sauron. I also feel like people might begin to turn to daedra worship and the imperial legion would mobilize along with the thalmor. I think saurons armies would get stomped, from the sheer numbers of the other races, but sauron would be a problem….
That doesn’t seem to look like Sauron though, unless my eyes are being deceived with the image above.
I actually think Dragons and the Dragonborn are Skyrim’s only chance.
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The population of Skyrim is actually quite small when you think about it, even the Imperial Legion was never shown to be a very massive fighting force.
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If Sauron has his armies? That would be a problem. If Sauron can make new armies? Also, a problem. If Sauron doesn’t use his own forces at all and manipulates people instead?? Skyrim’s worst Nightmare.
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He would most likely deceive the Thalmor into thinking he was some sort of Elf God, come back to Nirn to exact revenge upon the human scum and return the Elves to their rightful place.
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Even if they don’t believe him, once they see how strong he is, and that he wants to kill humans, they’ll join with him in minutes.
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I’m sure the Dark Elves of Morrowind would join him, in order to take land from Cyrodiil and Skyrim.
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The Dragons, would likely join as well in order to enslave humanity again, Alduin and Sauron share similar goals, and since Sauron can’t actually kill them, they will see him as a pawn in their timeless game.
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The only hope I can see for Skyrim really is to send everything the Legion has, make sure the Dragonborn finds every word of power, kills every dragon he can find, and completes the main story arc. That way Alduin is gone forever and the Dragonborn can not only call a dragon, but his ancient dovahkiin brethren.
“The population of Skyrim is actually quite small when you think about it, even the Imperial Legion was never shown to be a very massive fighting force.”
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I’d have to agree with this, I doubt some of the Holds even have an actual armed force aside from their guards… Even with the Legion/Stormcloacks the armed forces of Skyrim seem pitifully small….
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*Dreams of charging the Dovahkin into thousands of helpless npc’s and not even losing half health.*
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I can dream, can’t I?
“I actually think Dragons and the Dragonborn are Skyrim’s only chance.
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The population of Skyrim is actually quite small when you think about it, even the Imperial Legion was never shown to be a very massive fighting force.
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If Sauron has his armies? That would be a problem. If Sauron can make new armies? Also, a problem. If Sauron doesn’t use his own forces at all and manipulates people instead?? Skyrim’s worst Nightmare.
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He would most likely deceive the Thalmor into thinking he was some sort of Elf God, come back to Nirn to exact revenge upon the human scum and return the Elves to their rightful place.
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Even if they don’t believe him, once they see how strong he is, and that he wants to kill humans, they’ll join with him in minutes.
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I’m sure the Dark Elves of Morrowind would join him, in order to take land from Cyrodiil and Skyrim.
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The Dragons, would likely join as well in order to enslave humanity again, Alduin and Sauron share similar goals, and since Sauron can’t actually kill them, they will see him as a pawn in their timeless game.
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The only hope I can see for Skyrim really is to send everything the Legion has, make sure the Dragonborn finds every word of power, kills every dragon he can find, and completes the main story arc. That way Alduin is gone forever and the Dragonborn can not only call a dragon, but his ancient dovahkiin brethren.”
Also, we would have the companions and Stormcloaks, I think the Imperials and Stormcloaks would join up for this. And Odahving is a Red Dragon. Stronger than Alduin and Paarthurnax. And he could ask Shor to send an army, of whom would gladly come. The Imperails and Stormcloaks may hate each other, but both love the world.
So is this full Maiar God Mode Sauron, or the third age version after he had a continent dropped on his face by God and he was banished to the Earth? If he could still shape shift, he could probably trick every faction into believing he was Talos or some other revered God King.
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If Sauron has his Balrogs with him-hell, if he has Gothmog with him, Skyrim is doomed and Sauron is going to spend the next twenty years turning into a fat fucker from all of the sweetrolls he’ll be powering through.
Sauron is a master manipulator. He could convince every insecure person in Skyrim (from cultists, to thalamor, the dark brotherhood, and random hobos that have taken to many arrows to the knee) so this is the situation im seeing.
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Ulfric Stormcloak makes a deal with Sauron in order to beat the imperials, then Sauron’s new massive army lead by the new Witch-King Ulfric decimate the Empire and anything that stands in their way. The dragonborn could wipe out half of their army by himself, but a witch-king cannot be killed by a man (ironically only a woman and a hobbit can do that)
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So now we just have to hope that the dragonborn is a girl (which i think cannon wise she isnt) and that the dragons (if they haven’t joined Sauron) can beat Nazgûl
“Sauron is going to spend the next twenty years turning into a fat fucker from all of the sweetrolls he’ll be powering through.”
I sense a lot of bitter resentment in this statement. let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?
The odds of Sauron’s survival in Skyrim depend completely on the integrity of his knee armor.
“I sense a lot of bitter resentment in this statement. let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?”
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*Sob*
IT WAS SO CRUEL! I DIDN’T EVEN GET TO TAKE ONE BITE! WHY!?
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In all honesty, I didn’t intend to reference that joke, but now that I think of it; that’s hilarious in hindsight.
How strong is Sauron exactly? I’ve only seen the movies, masterpieces that they were, so I don’t know much about his strength. what about the Elder Scrolls, Daedric Princes, etc?
Would any of the above be enough to stop him?
@Grim
He had a continent dropped on his face by God and only lost a little power. That’s one feat I can think of.
He is a member of a race of ancient diety-like beings that can’t officially die unless they do something dumb like put their power into a ring
*The odds of Sauron’s survival in Skyrim depend completely on the integrity of his knee armor.*
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Watch with headphones.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDfxde8fSg
“I WILL EAT YOUR LIMBS!”
God I love that video.
^yes the moment I saw that video, everything made sense in life
So, the question becomes. Do the ‘Fires of Mount Doom’ come with Sauron?
Game mechinic nerf him and DB uses an enchanted steel axe, shouts for time time to slow, then kills him with wild axe swings.
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Would dragonrend work on Sauron, him being immortal and all that.
Well, he isn’t a Dragon really. At best I think they can destroy his body and make him hide until he makes a new one. Trapping him in an object would probably equal the Ring x76 in terms of corruption potential and that would probably end up worse for everybody than at first.
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Sauron probably bides his time corrupting pawns and recruiting the evil races, getting Trolls, Dark Elves, Thalmor, Spiders, hags, Orcs, wolves, Falmer, cults, some dragons and others of bad repute under his banner before actually trying anything.
Here’s hoping Sauron gets shot with an Arrow to that Knee, then, alright?
“The odds of Sauron’s survival in Skyrim depend completely on the integrity of his knee armor.”
-I c wut u did thar
Dragonrend may allow for the dragonborn to kill sauron as the words of power are actually just mortal and other random words that have nobspecific attachment to dragons.
Even though I admit I have only absolute basic knowledge of Skyrim, I agree with Glutenous-Behemoth, Sauron would just corrupt all the races or at least the evil ones or the ones he captured and then he could take over that universe. BTW, Broadwine, only that Witch-King if Angmar couldn’t be killed by a man, he actually could theoretically, it just wouldn’t happen. Also, Witch-King refers to the king of Angmar, so no one not in Middle Earth could become one. Wait a minute, though which Sauron? The pic is Dark Lord Sauron, but the mist recent incarnation is Eye of Sauron. Also, Gothmog is on Sauron’s level of command, they were both Morgoth’s lieutenants.
Why isn’t the Mordorian Coward backing out?
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Dragonrend would work on Sauron because I assume he is immortal, correct? Dragonrend works by forcing Immortals to acknowledge mortality and coming face to face with that revelation shocks them for a time.
Sauron learns OD Ah Viing and Slen Tiid Vo. Ruins or conquers everything.
Could have used a better pic of Sauron. I liked the ‘black knight’ armor version of him
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But yeah what everyone else said, Sauron corrupts most of the races and tries to go the more subtle approach first
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As for Gothmog, i thought he served Morgoth
@Tau
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Oh crap!
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I forgot that he could most likely learn to shout. All he would have to do is trick Dovahkiin, likely through impersonating a Daedra and giving him some random trinket. Then he could just Fus Ro Dah people off cliffs with reckless abandon.
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Not a huge game changer, but it’s scary to think of Mr. Unrelenting Force Wave Blast Mace, learning Fus Ro Dah, Nobody could get within two feet of him. Without thus flying 40 feet backwards as if being hit by a train.
“Not a huge game changer, but it’s scary to think of Mr. Unrelenting Force Wave Blast Mace, learning Fus Ro Dah, Nobody could get within two feet of him. Without thus flying 40 feet backwards as if being hit by a train.”
-The ones I listed are more powerful than Fus Ro Dah. They are Summon Dragons and Resurrect Dragon.
“The odds of Sauron’s survival in Skyrim depend completely on the integrity of his knee armor.”
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He has +9 kneepads of deflection (As in arrows automatically miss).
Also, I think this would’ve been more interesting to pull form Dragon Age.
“Also, I think this would’ve been more interesting to pull form Dragon Age.”
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Sauron in Dragon Age?
Yeah. Why not? Hell, it’s already a LOTR rip off. And hints of WoT. A few other things there and there too.
“Yeah. Why not? Hell, it’s already a LOTR rip off. And hints of WoT. A few other things there and there too.”
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Aren’t alot of fantasy franchises LOTR rip offs haha
From what I understand, dragon rend weakens dragons because they can’t comprehend mortality, but Sauron does understand it, so from what I’ve heard/seen, he won’t be affected by it.
Sauron is a god isn’t he? He shouldn’t be able to comprehend mortality unless you can find proof.
Also I think it would be sort of hard to corrupt all those races, for instance the thalmor, although bad guys in the game, their actual purpose is to spread worship of aedra which is why they outlawed the worship of Talos as they don’t see him as a true God.
@Grim
But he has been struck down multiple times to the Maiar approximation of death before, and he’s spent centuries living among and learing about the mortal races, so I think he understands it. And before turning over to Melkor/Morgoth, he was a Spirit of the God of Smithing and Craftsmanship, so he has a pretty rounded out view of the universe.
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He was able to corrupt the Numenoreans by playing on their fear of death. Unless every single peasant and scrub of Skyrim is a Grey Knight Chaplain, he’ll find a way to get to them eventually; especially the likes of Stormcloaks and Cultists.
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What about Sauron in both .hack and Dragon Age at the same time?
Unman, sauron might have some resistance in the form of daedric princes, if they even cared enough to fight for skyrim. Their battle might be infinite, as they all would be immortal, and could only hope of banishing he opponent.
“Spirit of the God of Smithing and Craftsmanship”
So he can just out-forge us due to retardedly high smithing skill and perks.
DAMMIT!
At least I know who to go to when I need the highest bars and the coolest weapons and armor!
He’s a Maiar, and when he changed into a wolf to defeat Huan, he was fitting himself into a prophecy about death, so if he knows how to specifically kill someone, then he abviously knows about death. Also just because he’s divine doesn’t mean he can’t comprehend mortality, maybe it does in Skyrim, but he’s IN Skyrim, not OF it, big difference.
Sorry if I just repeated you, Glutonous-Behemoth, I didn’t see your rebuttal.
Whoa. Skyrim is gonna be messed up. I say he just sends the nazgul to the each of the holds and takes them down one-by-one. Mehrunes Dagon will probably be hiding somehwhere in a corner with the other Daedra. the Dovahkin will most likely be nowhere to be found as he tucked tail and just ran for it.
So Sauron’s Knee Armor will get shattered!
Well, seeing as the Daedra are immortal, they’d be a reasonably powerful force to reckon with. Although their physical bodies can be vanquished, their souls would simply resurrect back in Oblivion upon this happening.
The Altmer (high elves) and other races namely Bretons possess a lot of arcane power. Mainly, the Imperial Legion in Skyrim appears to be pretty small – however a large force (similar to the Expeditionary Force that invaded Akavir) might achieve some success.
Other than that – if it really came down to it, perhaps someone in the Emperor’s blood line could merge their soul with that of Akatosh (like at the end of Oblivion) and fend Sauron off that way.
LADI!
OMG!!!! YOU have been gone for so long!! Have you been trolling as a different profile and finally come back to us as your recognized self or have you just come back from a sabbatical?
As for the match, It IS possible for the deadra to become involved if their worshippers summon them. That and all the mages in Skyrim fighting can summon an absolute army of renewable warriors by summoning. This is not including the mages casting magic themselves.
Son of a bitch…….
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Anyway, about Sauron’s knee armor?
@Officer N.Z
Sauron’s Knee Armor will be punched through with a Crossbow Bolt that’s enchanted, enough said, sir.
Meantime I got a factpile match in mind, yet.
If Sauron is brought in in the middle of nowhere, he could spend time corrupting animals and people and have an army before he invades, but if he arrives in a major city, he would probably be automatically recognized as a threat and attacked.
“If Sauron is brought in in the middle of nowhere, he could spend time corrupting animals and people and have an army before he invades, but if he arrives in a major city, he would probably be automatically recognized as a threat and attacked.”
The city would last all of an hour…at best
If Sauron got stalemated by Pyramid Head, why would he conquer Skyrim so easily?
Please read.
So, knee jokes have be used at least 10 times. Any chance it’ll stop there?
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Also Ladi’s back? Maybe factpile will get some traffic on Voldemort vs Link after all.
@Turtle Commando – Well, I haven’t posted a comment since about October I believe. Unfortunately, my computer broke and it took me a few weeks to get a new one. By that time, I was already playing away on Skyrim and Uncharted 3, leaving me little time to run about on FactPile. Not to mention there weren’t any matches that caught my attention. Until now of course.
I think it’s quite likely that if Sauron invaded Skyrim, certain Daedra worshippers would summon the likes of Mehrunes Dagon, Molag Bal and Boethiah, among others. Along with Azura and her infinite knowledge, I personally think Sauron’s outmatched.
And if Sauron managed to take over all of Skyrim, and inevitably Tamriel, I’d imagine even the likes of Akavir and the other continents would be forced to get involved. It’s implied that the Akaviri people may have even greater arcane power than the Altmer in the book “Disaster at Ionith”, which can be read in the game.
@Doc Lowk
I have no idea, you might have to consider a bolter shot at that spot, unless it was a nod to the original Achilles Heel, so to speak.
YIKES!
The psijic order can stop time and seem pretty powerful. Does Sauron have any time control abilities?
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Is Skyrim’s populace small or is that just apart of the limitation of the game?
I’m not entirely certain. I think it may just be because Bethesda didn’t want a repeat of what happened in The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall, when there were over 750, 000 NPC’s to interact with. And because there were so many, they lacked individuality and detail. Therefore, from Morrowind onwards, there are fewer NPC’s (about 1000), but they’re all more detailed. So obviously the enormous difference in populace is a contradiction (a necessary one I think), but I believe it indicates that places like Skyrim do have larger populations than we might think.
I’m not sure Sauron would go in attacking everybody from the get-go. I think he would be more manipulative just as he was in his hey-day in LOTR. Probably make a few rings and give them to the Thalmor, Imperials, and Stormcloaks and then controll all of them.
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The Daedra however, outmatch him.
“The Daedra however, outmatch him.”
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Combined they do (Mehrunes Dagon alone likely gives him a run for his money)
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Although i imagine him getting quite far here
Will all-out war eventually ensure?
Well due to the fact Daedra can’t be killed, it’s kind of unfair, although i’m pretty sure Sauron can take on anything other that them.
“Well due to the fact Daedra can’t be killed, it’s kind of unfair”
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Well Sauron can’t be permanently killed either, but yeah i do agree that Daedra have better regeneration than Sauron does. But Sauron vs Mehrunes Dagon would be a good fight me thinks
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“although i’m pretty sure Sauron can take on anything other that them”
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Yeah im fairly certain too. But he wouldn’t go for the combat approach first, hed go about corrupting everyone. Gothmog was always Morgoths ‘bash ‘em good’ guy
@MuNki
Is this worth a 300-style trailer for the Elder Scrolls, though?
“I’m not sure Sauron would go in attacking everybody from the get-go. I think he would be more manipulative just as he was in his hey-day in LOTR.”
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Isn’t there a deadra of secrets and lies. I wonder if that one will know about this.
Exactly. Why would he attack everyone when he could just fuck-em over from the inside out.
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@CC – All out war? Eventually, but Sauron would most likely have others doing it for him.
“Exactly. Why would he attack everyone when he could just fuck-em over from the inside out.”
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Indeed. Plus if he decides to attack later on, he’ll have corrupted so many beings and combined with his own massive force (if he has Balrogs too… maybe)… yeah
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Plus Sauron should be able to take down anyone short of a Daedra in one-on-one combat
Well if you think about it (not literally, not insulting you), Sauron was outmatched by the Numenoreans and other armies, but he tricked them or, later, had built his armies so he didn’t have to fight them himself.
@Epicazeroth
Which is why I think Sauron would take the smarter approach and corrupt the majority of Skyrim’s armies.
So………I’m no LotR buff….but can’t Sauron only be harmed if he is seperated from his ring?
“So………I’m no LotR buff….but can’t Sauron only be harmed if he is seperated from his ring?”
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It one-shots him but other than that hes virtually invulnerable rly
So then it’s just a matter of how long Skyrim lasts?
“So then it’s just a matter of how long Skyrim lasts?”
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Well technically the Daedra outmatch him combined so i think Sauron would lose in attrition (Mehrunes Dagon alone would give Sauron a run for his money)
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But i think Sauron could defeat anyone short of a Daedra in combat anyways
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But he wouldn’t go for combat first
Ah, what about the dragons? I remember Sauron having a dragon of his own.
“Ah, what about the dragons? I remember Sauron having a dragon of his own.”
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Smaug i think
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And i think he had a Balrog or 2 as well
Well he had Gothmog who was his right hand man. I wonder, if Sauron made new rings of power and gave them to the men in Skyrim and waited a thousand years or so(He has the time and patience)couldn’t he make a new Nazgul?
“Well he had Gothmog who was his right hand man. I wonder, if Sauron made new rings of power and gave them to the men in Skyrim and waited a thousand years or so(He has the time and patience)couldn’t he make a new Nazgul?”
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If they were humans or whatever he could
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As for Gothmog, i thought he was Morgoths champion, but he did have a Balrog. Possibly more
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As for Dragons. Im not sure, but Smaug i think was affilated with Sauron
“As for Gothmog, i thought he was Morgoths champion, but he did have a Balrog. Possibly more”
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My mistake, Gothmog was Morgoths champion alongside Sauron although I don’t think he would be much help seeing as he’s dead and all.
“My mistake, Gothmog was Morgoths champion alongside Sauron although I don’t think he would be much help seeing as he’s dead and all.”
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In his current incarnation he is, but theres still Durin’s Bane
Was Durin’s bane even allied with Sauron?
@MuNki
Not sure if its stated outright in the original Middle-Earth novels, to be honest.
Smaug is completely unrelated to Sauron. Also, Sauron got thrown into an abyss by Eru and it only got rid of his ability to create a fair form. And this is when Eru was making the world go from flat to round,
Um….. for anyone wondering who would win DB vs a large group of orcs….. You ever seen what an Ice Storm spell does to fodder?
@Fang
Its alright, we knew Sauron was gonna get an Arrow to the Knee.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1C3H_9fNY
Why do you keep talking bout him getting shot in the knee!?!?!?
And what was the point of that video? I didn’t understand it.
It’s a reference to the Skyrim “arrow to the knee” joke/meme.
What’s that joke?
“What’s that joke?”
“I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.”
Every single guard, if you talk to them long enough, will say that. Sometimes, I walk around talking to guards til they say that so I can laugh and walk away
I used to have an outdoor life, but then I took Factpile to the Knee.
-It can also be used like that.
I used to be more eager to meet any factpile match, but then I took a heartstab to the Knee.
-Also for that.
Batman used to be just another kid, until he took a bullet to the parents.
The General used to be a dedicated factpiler, until he took a college to the brain!