Suggested by Lowk
Making his debut on FactPile is Garrett Hawke from Dragon Age going up against the infamous Harry Potter.
For this battle of mages, the location is in a small deserted town.
Who wins this match?
Suggested by Lowk
Making his debut on FactPile is Garrett Hawke from Dragon Age going up against the infamous Harry Potter.
For this battle of mages, the location is in a small deserted town.
Who wins this match?
SHARE THIS POST
@Lowk
can you give us a list of Hawke’s spells and such. I know he has crushing prison because of that CGI movie with the Arishok as well as flameball and is possibly a blood mage.
It can even be that of your own character. You suggested the match, it is only fair.
*sighs to self and then prays to the ruins of Stonehedge for the following*
WHY SO SOON????? :gonk:
The Old-Owl didn’t even get to Auror training, yet, and already we have to make due, again?
Well i better go and hope that my helmet is not too tightly worn and be ready to do this, or my User!-namesake will kill me. *points to abnormal blood-knight helm still being worn*
Alright, where do we begin on gauging the actual balance in this fight?
I grant you that Hawke’s intro was long overdue, but why does it feel so rushed, in a way?
I don’t think Harry will hesitate to use Avada Kedavra here, seeing as he has used an Unforgivable Curse before in Deathly Hallows,
-
I think it was when he tried to steal Ravenclaw’s Diadem in the Wizard bank whosse name I will not type becuase I don’t know the spelling. He used the Imperius Curse
-
So, what can Hawke do?
@Man
Yeah, he used it to control a Goblin official. But I think that was before they knew the Diadem was a Horcrux; I think they were going for either the Sword of Griff, or the Triwizard Tourney Cup.
@Lieutenant
Its Gringotts.
Since quick learning is rendered next to null in general outside of combat-related purposes, it may come down to whichever one could adapt faster to what the other may wind up throwing at their opponents, among other things.
We know that unless more info on Auror training is provided, Ignotius’ heir is in double-trouble if Hawke can close the distance, successfully, but at the same time in long range, Hawke’s gonna have just as much difficulty if not more, as well.
We might have to await what else Lowk will warn us about this premature confrontation, really.(and yes, i meant premature particularly as in as if 2 16+ year olds were engaged in…you-know-what as in the sort of thing that might make Aphy herself watch!)
What else is there to worry about, barring fields of battle?
@ Commander Cross
Harry can Apparate.
Is that enough to maintain the distance between them?
@Lieutenant
Yes, but something tells me that the degrees of distance permitted in the field of the fighting in question could actually be questioned, here.
He would have also learned a variant of the Protego Charm, so that’s another combat-related damper in things to consider.
In terms of learning faster outside of combat, i would admit to grant it to Hawke, but as far as Combat-rooted learning is concerned, i feel its anyone’s dodgeball game, at this point.
Either way, let’s be glad neither of them are pit against an Asha’man, or i wouldn’t know how to be of help, there, alright?
but the problem with Avada Kedavra and Crucio is that you have to really *want* to kill or torture someone for it to work, to quote Bellatrix Lestrange in the 6th book after Harry tried using Crucio on her “You have to mean it, Harry. You know the spell. She killed him. She deserves it.” So that pretty much puts Avada Kadavra under the “Eat Slugs” curse in usefulness… can somebody tell us how good Hawke is when it comes to magic… and for that matter physical abilities, even that may help him in this fight.
@ Bardian
All moral filters that keep a character from killing is removed.
@Bardain
That’s what we’re trying to find out, depending on what variation of Male!-Hawke Lowk is going to unleash, actually.
Remember when i generally had to hand quick learning outside of Combat-related purposes to Hawke over Mr. Potter, even though i’m siding with the latter for this fight?
That includes the regards that you cannot expect to save everyone, at least not by yourself(with the only possible exceptions being if you’re Superman or Thor, but i reckon even at least the former of the two would have a lot of problems in doing that, by himself!) and to attempt to do it alone would not only burn yourself out before your time, but it leaves you glaring vulnerabilities in combat that would be able to kill you in the long run of things, as well.
It took the 7th novel for Mr. Potter to learn that fact, the hard way(pretty much!), which was basically 7 years, right there, in total.
Also, are variations of Sectumsempra permitted for this fight?
@Lieutenant
While its debatable if it would have been the case for Aang from Avatar:The Last Airbender, in doing this, don’t forget that removing another being’s combat-related powers and prowess completely isn’t out of the question, either.
But i digress, and admit that the functions of the power systems(magic systems in particular for the cases of the two fighters, here!) and how compatable they are will be factors to take note, here.
“Also, are variations of Sectumsempra permitted for this fight?”
Should be, did Lowk put any restrictions?
@man
Who made that rule?
-
Also, would a shielding charm work against Hawkes magic, seeing as he is from another universe?
@ bardian
Admin.
Rule number 8, look up the CIS part.
www.factpile.com/2812-factpile-debating-rules/
@man
I don’t think that would count towards spell casting inabilities… if it did count against it, then we could say on a star wars debate that Padme can wield a lightsabre… which she can’t, I don’t think it has anything to do with morality or anything like that, but if the almighty admin doesn’t allow it, then Avada Kedavra away, my friend
Hawke pops transmutation if Harry is fast enough to do anything before getting Blood Magic’d, then from there he uses any number of killing stuffs I guess. Or just traps Harry in a nightmare via the entropy tree.
@ Mister Teal
“Or just traps Harry in a nightmare via the entropy tree.”
Can’t Harry counter that with Occlumency?
Alright, i have mulitiple play-throughs in Dragon Age 2 and one of them was a Mage. I can saftly say that Hawke comes from the two very powerful magical families, because his dad was a VERY powerful mage, and his mother’s side of the family, the Amell’s are related to The Warden. I have read all of the Harry Potter series and i know that Harry can’t handle the Magic that Hawke is throwing at him… and Harry would NEVER use the killing curse, especially on a man that he doesnt even know.
I doubt it, but it’s highly irrelevant seeing as paralysis, coma or nightmares (entropy tree spells) are probably the nicest outcomes for Harry lol
–
Going with the spirit tree for kicks, assuming Hawke does have or get to use transmutation, then he just corrosive walking-bombs him.
–
That’s if Hawke has to use the dispel in the first place though, again, the blood magic tree could just physically lock Harry down at the start.
last post was at Man’s by the by, why don’t we have post numbers anymore?
@ Broadwine
Where have you been when I explained all moral filters are removed?
-
Harry will not feel any hesitation in killing Hawke, if he can.
Some of the Spells i used as Mage Hawke include:
Arcane Sheild
Healing
Mind crush
Arcane Bolt
he beats the shit out of people with his staff
Fireballs
Some feats of Hawke include: Deafeating entire armies of highly armed and trained Templars and/or Qunari, Killing Demons and Darkspawns, Slaying a High Dragon and a Wyvern, and Getting boning a hot pirate chick
@man
My bad dude, im new to this… give me a chance
and if this were the case… then Hawke may be screwed, but he is still a better overall fighter
Also, assuming Ladi has his Potter information correct, I believe it was said the killing curse can get blocked via tangible barriers. So Hawke’s Rock Armor does away with that. That should probably be verified though, I’ve just heard it mentioned in a few Potterverse threads.
“can you give us a list of Hawke’s spells and such.”
-
I was going to go the route of how most rpg characters and give him full access to his learnable arts and specializations.
“I was going to go the route of how most rpg characters and give him full access to his learnable arts and specializations.”
-
Only under mage class I mean.
Right…I will address the following point:
“Hawke comes from the two very powerful magical families, because his dad was a VERY powerful mage, and his mother’s side of the family, the Amell’s are related to The Warden.”
Ineffectual, being Malcolm’s child means nothing if the social structure surrounding him did not force him to improve his magic. Society imparts its will onto the individuals. Had there been no blight and the only threat to him were the Templars of Lothering, then Hawke would not become as strong as we make him throughout the game.
Part 2 – D
Sorry for the double-post
Part 2 – David Gaider has never stated which Warden was canon. Matter of fact all books released so far are set in an alternative world. I can get the quote if you want.
“Ineffectual, being Malcolm’s child means nothing if the social structure surrounding him did not force him to improve his magic. Society imparts its will onto the individuals. Had there been no blight and the only threat to him were the Templars of Lothering, then Hawke would not become as strong as we make him throughout the game.”
-
I think Hawke was already a powerful mage regardless of what magic you would’ve picked for him. Like the end of the fight with the rock wraith he used what seemed to be an amped version of mind blast. This was only a year after the escape and doing grunt work for which ever group you picked.
-
Potters probably got a defense for this but Hawke also happens to be skilled in the use of the murder knife. So in addition to spells Hawke could launch a surprise simultaneous attack via throwing knife.
@Lowk
Not my point.
@Blood Dancer
I see your point, and i understand that Malcoms situation is what made him great… but it also meant that Hawke had potential. Potential that he definatly lived up to. And if Hawke doesnt have Morals working against him, that means some of the most powerful Blood Magic is at his disposal, something i dont think Harry would know how to deal with… and we still dont know if Avada Kedavera would penatrate Hawke’s sheild magic
“Not my point.”
-
Ah, Then feel free to ignore that part then.
==
” and we still dont know if Avada Kedavera would penatrate Hawke’s sheild magic”
-
Arcane shield: is a protective aura that deflects attacks.
Barrier: repels attacks via telekinetic force.
If magic auras or telekinetic force has been capable of stopping it then Hawke should be capable of repelling or deflecting it.
-
If the use of cover or physical objects can block it then Rock armor should have him covered. Or he could hide behind a building and they have shootout replacing bullets with elements and magic blast.
(first post…give me a break if its doesnt make sense) Exactly what has harry accomplished by himself? I cant think of a battle that Harry managed to take down his apponent without an extreme amount of help from his comrades and and even larger amount of luck. If this fight is taken place one on one, in a nuetral battle field harry has nothing but himself and his wand. If the killing curse is innafective against hawkes sheild..harry literaly has nothing to stops Hawke’s blood magic..
Sorry for all the typing errors…i was in a hurry
I always thought his first name was Ethan…
Mike
harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_spells
This is the arsenal of spells Mr. Potter’s gonna need at his side, here.
That said, i can also take note on General B.D’s point in regards to how blood-lines alone(while i feel they may be a viable factor) may not wind up being the be-all-end-all sort of deal that will determine the overall outcome of this fight, among other things.
Also back on the regards of the magic systems, i was going to list out that the Potter-world magic system has a cousin system in the form of that of .hack’s, actually, but until we see how Dragon Age’s own magical system can compete with either of the two, i am not handing victory in either departments to either system’s representatives, just yet.
I will, however, admit that the Modern Potter-world has problems in power-levels, in general, actually.
I support the dragon age side here. Potter really doesn’t have the arsenal or the strength to even fight off the mid-level spells that Hawke can use.
“but it also meant that Hawke had potential.”
You got my point. Still, do not make statements like that. Genetic predispositions should never be used as a valid argument unless it is proven to be so. More so in RPG’s where we can make the character blow out the Universe in one sneeze
Most offensive spells in DA require little more in the way of movement and gestures than those of HP, and have no vocal component.
-
On top of that the bolts DA mages can shoot out of his staff (the standard staff attacks) are stated to never miss unless the target hides behind cover or gets out of range- dodging them is useless. Without any real armor I don’t see Harry surviving Hawke’s immolating staff attacks, which require nothing more than waving said staff in the target’s direction.
I smell potential for a quick-draw-based scenario or two in the course of the fighting, here.
Maybe i’m getting a bit paranoid, but apart from the regards that Mr. Potter has a canonically unlimited magic score, how else can i word this?
“Hawke’s immolating staff attacks,”
So I assume we’re using the Staff of Parlathan. Also, Harry has shield charms and could be given one of the Weasleys’ charmed cloaks.
@General
What can you tell me about that staff, if i am permitted to ask?
Later on, i may as well look up some of the spells in the Potter-world’s Spellbook arsenal, but perhaps not right away, i might be going somewhere to get something from K-mart.
“What can you tell me about that staff, if i am permitted to ask?”
-
Staff/Spear like combo, shoots fire, looks like this
images.wikia.com/dragonage/images/1/14/Staff_of_Parthalan_icon.png
@Commander
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Staff_of_Parthalan
Its base element is fire.
Also, shield charms:
harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_Charm
I’ll be back sooner rather than later with quotes about harry and other characters using it.
@Lowk
All spells for Hawke?
Narrow it please. Blood Magic should be a given if only because of that Trailer, give him command over primal magic as well (fire, ice,) and whatever else you desire but don’t give him access to all of it.
My opinion anyway.
@Everyone
Yes, I am siding with Harry. His is arguably my favourite universe, second only to the Drenai Universe ( David Gemmell)
and damnit, I hate this box lay-out.
@General
Thanks, i’ll prepare to look up more viable spells, in the meantime.
@Dolphin Lowk(have you joined Delphin’s forces, already?)
THAT.IS.INSANE!!!
*recalls orders to stand my ground*
With the exception of creation and entropy (if we give Harry A LOT of slack on the mind defense) then all of Hawke’s other trees are pretty much a bad day for Potter. Blood and Force are most useful for locking down, spirit has the dispell/transmutation/spell disruptor though.
–
Although both primal and elemental have ways of immediate death and/or neutralization anyway (flashfreeze, rock tomb) or just a nice little lightning knock to his dumb forehead.
–
I’m thinking, Hawke pancakes Harry with gravity manipulation or some other quick death, unless he wants to play it safe and use the dispell first (which does spirit damage itself anyway.) Kind of hard to quantify side-bonus damage, but I don’t think the spirit effect from disrupting Harry would kill him.
@Mister Teal
Then i guess its a good thing Apparation and the Freezing Charm are workable, then.
Still, i suspect it might come down to a quick-draw type of deal, which isn’t entirely out of the question, actually, regardless of whether or not Mr. Potter is permitted non-verbal magic, here.
Nah, movement is required to apparate. Also post feats from the freezing charm, because Hawke also has a wall of ice he impales things with — does it ignore all ice-related damage or just the cold?
–
Also, under Blood Magic, the move “hemorrhage” isn’t even really a casting spell (as in tangible/visible projectile), it just corrupts and erupts the blood of enemies in the area, makes it burst out of their bodies and what not. Probably got some similar stuffs in the spirit tree that I’m overlooking, but I think blood magic would probably be the most useful strictly-offensive attack. Although crushing gravity blasts and cages would also prevent movement lol
harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Freezing_Charm
Then its official, it is going to wind up having plenty of quick-draw-esque snags and other such matters, and can already go either way if enough thought is collected, will it?
harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Undetectable_Extension_Charm
I suspect that depending on where the cover is meant to be taken at, this spell may be of use, via varying degrees.
Oh lol, a movement freezing spell. I was thinking it was like a rune or object that helped against ice.
–
But, Hawke’s got at least two types of barriers that come to mind, possibly another (I haven’t played every tree) as well as a spell-disrupting attack (used to stop other wizards from casting)
–
As well as some other stuffs that don’t really have a discernable “cast time.” I don’t think it’ll be a showdown type fight actually for some of those reasons
Wait, what all spells does Harry get? That says the only or main specified use was from Hermoine. Potter doesn’t get what he doesn’t use
@Mister Teal
We may have to wait for Dolphin Lowk to see what is and what isn’t permitted to either side, here, then.
I feel urged to wish Rowling had dwelled into the combative aspects of the Potter-world, so maybe we could have stumbled upon a sight of actual Auror training, these days.
Since we’re not using Auror-trained Mr. Potter, all the more reason to make due, right?(Don’t want to come across as belly-aching!)
Lowk said Hawke gets access to all his usable spells, so Harry likely gets extended the same courtesy.
“Since we’re not using Auror-trained Mr. Potter, all the more reason to make due, right?”
As much as I’d like that, I have come to terms with the belief that Rowling will not indulge us. Her thing is children, teenagers and scarcely young adult. That kind of rules out us ever reading on the four founders. She said she could go back to the Potter-verse, but given the size and intricacy of it she can create any number of characters and stories.
@Mister Teal
Fair enough.
Good thing that the Sectumsempra Spell is still on the arsenal that he has actually used, i just hope its not out of the question to consider variations of such a spell, these days.
Depending on how Lowk has intended the match, it could go either way, but one of the major things to ask is whether or not Hawke’s conduction of the magic system of Dragon Age can actually get through the unlimited magic score the Potter-world magic system has to offer, before Mr. Potter himself finds a way to outdo Hawke in mystic combat, among other such questions, right?
Doesn’t sound too helpful, again: magic AND physical (rock barriers) along with other attacks (blood magic and spirit) that originate from within Harry.
–
I say Hawke cuts his palm with his dagger (have to spill own blood for blood magic) and Harry’s blood vessels have a circus, /end.
–
Obviously some other stuffs, but I usually stick to the most simple.
–
Going back to that move though for kicks – if Hawke’s blood gets onto Harry, he’ll get turned into a blood slave, which explodes in a gore firework when Hawke’s through.
–
And for whatever kind of use it’ll be, Hawke does have two trees of healing or physical improvement (speed for instance) trees.
**Also, Hawke can use his blood as a projectile. He activates the blood slave by stabbing himself then directs the mist onto the victim, so it’s not only up to luck or anything such as “will he happen to be close enough to drip some blood on Harry.”
@General Blood-Dancer
In which case, unless she actually DOES wind up writing about just Auror-trained Mr. Potter in a combat situation(i promise i won’t complain if it takes place if/when he becomes Head Auror as long as its just Auror-trained Mr. Potter, i’ll settle for that one, really!
) i guess not only is it all the more reason to make due, but we can only depend on the Post-Voldemortian Wars Potter-world R.Ps to make guesswork that has roots grounded in fact, right?
A shame, and one of these days Mr. Shacklebolt needs to be introduced to factpile, but apart from my plans to bring him to the fold in a C.T.F match involving him, Mr. Potter and two others i already listed back at the Topia against 4 representatives of the world of .hack that i selected(Haseo, Atoli, Pi, and Yata!) i have a tough time trying to find workable opponents for Mr. Shacklebolt, really.
In such a C.T.F fight, the .hack side would mostly have to choose between Elder Wand-armed Mr. Potter(who’s basically stuck in his infinity -1 stage and would need the wand to supercede the issue unless that Old-Owl DOES write said combat situation and show feats for his Auror-trained self, there!) and Mr. Shacklebolt, since make no mistake, they will be the heaviest hitters of the 4 Potter-world main players i picked, overall(Mr. Shacklebolt would border on lightning bruiser for the 4 when you consider the extensive knowledge of spells that may be in his own personal arsenal, and Mr. Potter’s statistically balanced, for the most part!)
Not to say that the .hack side has slouches, either(indeed, Xth form Haseo has enough firepower to deal with the mystic forcefields on par with what protected Hogwarts in the final battle of the 2nd war against Mr. Potter’s ‘dear cousin’, eventually, so best not to underestimate the guy!)
I’d provide more info, but you’d have to meet back up at the Topia so we can discuss more about the C.T.F fight in particular, alright?
Right now, we’re back at Hawke(finally getting introduced to the pile itself, which is about time, despite the overall dubious circumstances!) and Mr. Potter, himself, with a bit of idea-tossing for Mr. Shacklebolt’s mono-a-mono opponents, in digression, agreed?
“i guess not only is it all the more reason to make due, but we can only depend on the Post-Voldemortian Wars Potter-world R.Ps to make guesswork that has roots grounded in fact, right?”
—-
Fan Fic is fan fic regardless of how you word it. So, no.
@General
Figures, but that’s why i said Guesswork, actually, because unless Old-Owl Rowling does show us such a combat-related situation(which may make the fighting at hand feel much more fitting in retrospect!) that’s basically what she left us with, really.
I maintain that Mr. Shacklebolt should be introduced to factpile in a vs match, one of these days(albeit not today or tomorrow or even some time this week!) since particularly speaking his appearance feels overdue, in a way.
We have other Potter-world residents to introduce to the pile, but i am not sure where to begin without the digressions having an overflow, really.
So what other potential spells in the Potter-world would Mr. Potter have access to, that we can recall?
What does R.P stand for and what’s Potter’s current incarnation? I never finished the series. Personally never quite thought it was as good as the hype. Quite a few things happened that just made me pause and say “What?” to myself.
“All spells for Hawke?
Narrow it please. Blood Magic should be a given if only because of that Trailer, give him command over primal magic as well (fire, ice,) and whatever else you desire but don’t give him access to all of it.”
-
All right how about
-Elemental, Spirit, and arcane trees. They seem to be his go to powers for cutscenes(fire, blue energy, mindblast, etc).
-Rock armor, Chain lightning, Heal, and Haste.
-Force and Blood mage specializations.
Sound good?
===
“have you joined Delphin’s forces, already?”
-
Nah, just showing my love for a webcomic about a ninja doctor drmcninja.com
===
“Wait, what all spells does Harry get?”
-
Magic that Harry has shown to do in canon.
If anyone could get a list of that would be nice.
===
Also, the town has a lot of things in which to be used as cover for either sides. Forgot to mention that part.
I didn’t finish the series either, but I looked up Auror on the HPwiki, and it seems like some kind of wizard version of a U.S. Marshal.
–
Which seems interesting enough, but from the sound if it it’s got a lot of unknowns surrounding the abilities, or is lacking in usable feats. That’s the vibe I’m getting anyway.
@Mister Teal
Pretty much expect Aurors to be an intended variant of Super-Soldier for the Potter-world(at least judging via the overall intent!) via way of things along the lines of Jarhead Force Recon or Navy SEAL training(at minimum, at least!), if i have to say anything.
Old-Owl Rowling really SHOULD get around to discussing more things about them via Pottermore, so we can gather feats from their training for here, anyone else agree?
@T.C
Role-plays, in case you had to ask.
Which one of these days i might as well considering introducing one of my R.P party members to the pile and pray it does not come across as an outright Wank!-fest in the process.
I don’t like the series, but if he’s going to pop up on FP a lot, more combat feats would probably be beneficial lol
@Mister Teal
Which one?
You mean Mr. Potter or whoever would be the Role-play party member i would have intended to introduce?
Which of the two would it be?
That’s what I didn’t like about the HP series. Nothing but luck. Harry solos the series with what…two spells? He spends the entire time relying on other pretty much yet he’s the hero. Really?
Not much in the way of combat or actual feats either. The magic is only lightly touched on. Probably to prevent inconsistencies. The only stuff you see other then about ten combat spells at best are parlor tricks.
I dunno if I just have a weird sense of humor, but I find this thread rather funny.
-
“Nah, just showing my love for a webcomic about a ninja doctor drmcninja.com”
-
How dare you bring up a webcomic that is not The Last Days of FOXHOUND!?
eh, it’s not terrible to me. But I’ve seen the first two movies and didn’t like them, and I just don’t read books so I never got into the series from the start. I got nothing against it though, although unless used as a universe it’s characters aren’t that great for FP matches.
@T.C
Let us pray that Potter-more will fix this issue, assuming info from the site can be used, otherwise this is more troubling than i’d thought it would be.
Meantime, what do you think of my planned C.T.F match coming up, sooner or later(once arrangements are all done, which will be more difficult to pull off than the 8-way archery contest i have, later this month!) actually?
I already noted(at least several times over) that the Potter-world and .hack magic systems are of extremely workable compatibility, so they’ll be able to interact with each other, in reason.
Besides, i need to start this C.T.F match as a way to test the possible waters of the Potter-world vs .hack, in addition to .hack vs the Naruto universe being another way to test these same waters.
I read all 7 of the original novel septimology at least once or twice in my life, and i also recalled Liquid luck being very helpful in life-or-death matters.
Depending on whether or not they’re permitted, how much use would they be, in this fight?
@Mister Teal
If i have to hazard a guess in here, should i assume you mean in general in regards to the individual residents?
I don’t know what you’re asking me
I just have one thing to say.
OHMYGAWD webcomics!!!!
I love those things(well some, okay alot of them).
@teal
I believe he was asking whether you were referencing HP as a person or universe in general.
@Mister Teal
I meant in regards to the Potter-world residents, to be sure i am specifying.
Its actually all the more reason for me to wish the cited wikia could flesh out the regards of the list of spells for the individual residents in combat, because by now they should have sections for Harry, the Dumbledores, Mr. Shacklebolt and even Harry’s ‘dear cousin’ Voldemort(Plus Snape) at this point.
Although i find the wikia actually competent, overall, what gives?
@Turtle
Harry Potter as a person isn’t that great in FP matches, I was saying using the whole universe vs. other universes is probably the most useful way to use the series, rather than having Harry or Dumbledore flying solo.
@Mister Teal
We also have group fights to consider for the Potter-world factions, as well, albeit they’re generally not as well-done(with the exception being the siege fight still going on, in which case i still have to find more ways for the besieged to live through this!) as well as that upcoming C.T.F match i’m planning for the Potter-world against 4 representatives of .hack, actually.
Beyond that, and some very well thought-out conditions for some possible duels the residents wind up in, i don’t know how else to help bridge the gaps of issues, sadly.
@ Teal
Agreed
@ CC
Menzoberanzan PWNZ teh N0085. It is okay.
@T.C
Speaking of which i still gotta find more creatures on the Potter-world’s end for the siege when i DO get back to it, but for now, don’t we still got a fight in here to discuss?
Not to mention the idea of testing the waters to see if any possible Potter-world vs .hack universe fight can get the greenlight, because i need to use the C.T.F match between the 4 Potter-world residents i picked against that of .hack’s, and the .hack universe vs the Naruto-verse, for that matter.
So what else does this deserted town have to offer, for both sides in here?
“We also have group fights to consider for the Potter-world factions, as well, albeit they’re generally not as well-done”
-
This was originally going to be a group match between Hawke, Isabela, and Fenris vs Potter and friends but Isabela is a beast in stealth/speed(stealthy speedblitz) and Fenris’ hatered of mages alone should be considered as a superpower(+he’s tattos help negate magic).
===
“How dare you bring up a webcomic that is not The Last Days of FOXHOUND!?”
-
Sir, I read a webcomic about a doctor ninja with a gorilla secretary, and 13 year old sidekick with a mustache, and Raptor named yoshi; I SHALL DO AS I PLEASE!……Also thank you for the webcomic, I shall look it up.
===
On topic
Not sure what spell this was but it should be useful.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YemwBWC5eH8
1:54-1:58
like a combo of shield spell and Mind blast
@Doc Lowk.
If Isabela was the pirate lady who cameo’d in Origins, then wouldn’t she have been hinted if not outright stated to be bi?(not as Bi as Leliana, but still…)
Also, more info on that field of battle, in particular?
“If Isabela was the pirate lady who cameo’d in Origins, then wouldn’t she have been hinted if not outright stated to be bi?”
-
Probably, most of the main cast seems to follow this route.
===
“Also, more info on that field of battle, in particular?”
-
Stone/wooden buildings&structures, alleyways, all the building are open(good cover/places to hide. Was going to say places like Lowtown or Diagon Alley but either of those would’ve given one an unfair advantage over the other.
@Doc Lowk
I don’t suppose, for the sake of imagining the levels of jarring situations within the context of the fighting, it would have made all that much sense had Hawke brought in Isabela and Leliana to make-out and all that jazz, would it?
*does not know whether to be…intrigued by the idea or feel awkwarded out by the idea, as its just a feeling of buzzing confusion in place on the idea*
Also, depending on what else both sides may possess in terms of means of physical defense, we may or may not wind up stumbling upon more snags in the course of the match, right?
Also, is Garrett canonically Hawke’s default 1st name, or does that depend greatly as to what family or class he’s from?
@Dolphin Doc Lowk
What else can you share with us on Fenris, barring the regards that his D.O.M.P-Tanking sounds like the blessings of Merlin or Khorne or that he’s named after the very wolf destined to devour One-eyed Odin, for that matter?
“I don’t suppose, for the sake of imagining the levels of jarring situations within the context of the fighting, it would have made all that much sense had Hawke brought in Isabela and Leliana to make-out and all that jazz, would it?”
-
No, it wouldn’t. However Mid-battle make-out I could actually see Isabela attempting.
===
“Also, is Garrett canonically Hawke’s default 1st name, or does that depend greatly as to what family or class he’s from?”
-
Garrett for default male, I think Marian for female.
===
“What else can you share with us on Fenris, barring the regards that his D.O.M.P-Tanking sounds like the blessings of Merlin or Khorne or that he’s named after the very wolf destined to devour One-eyed Odin, for that matter?”
Tattoos infused with Lyrium(magic substance) gives him powers like increased strength, defense, etc.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_IwwJaRzSg
He’s the one stabbing the guy through the chest…with his bare hand.
.
@Dolphin Doc Lowk
With Leliana to be sure, provided they find appropriate amounts of cover while Hawke’s got their backs, right?
Speaking of the Orlesian bi, err i mean Spy, methinks she should be introduced in an 8-way archery match one of these days(but after i post in the one i am plotting out, you have to get back at the topia for more info on that, trust me!)
I should have specified for Male!-Hawke’s name, actually. -_-’
Is Fenris some kind of werewolf!-esque dude, or do i have to fully check out the video to find out more info about the guy, one of these days?
*already reads the idea of getting through organs with a fist, something that is only easy to conceive when beings on par with User!-namesake or above said namesake is doing the deed in combat*
*after watching the linked out video*
Gotta hand it to Fenris, even he sees he cannot afford to make a run for it, for eternity and beyond, actually.
I can only hope that if i ever wind up having to enter in any Potter-world-involved fights that i will not attempt to make a run for it, either.
So how much of a long-run factor would subconscious magic be to both sides, assuming if either of them can trigger it and weaponize it well enough, in time?
“So how much of a long-run factor would subconscious magic be to both sides, assuming if either of them can trigger it and weaponize it well enough, in time?”
–
Not much help, it seems like one of those random plot events. But, some spell could possibly fire and bounce off of Hawke’s magic barriers in the brief moment it takes Harry’s insides to not be inside anymore.
@Mister Teal
So in other words, yet another thing that has the potential to lead to a quick-draw sequence, right?
Here’s hoping that regardless of how this fight will end, it will be LESS messed-up than the Quick-draw-resulting fight that Skywalker vs Mephiston wound up being, right?*shudders whenever the attempts to recall that fight is done*
Causing Hawke to bleed would be a VERY bad idea (as the Arishok found out right before he got ripped in half)…
-
Hawke can also shoot lightning bolts out of his staff (seen in a CGI trailer) and is an awesome melee combatant as well.
@Officer Galorian
Where in Tartarus did Hawke himself get ripped in half, literally speaking, if i must ask?
Already aware he can shoot electric bolts from his staff and knows how to fight in Melee(isn’t it a given he’s supposed to be some kind of magic knight, to begin with?) which is all the more reason to use caution in here, really, and why it may come down to equipment and how fast Mr. Potter’s movement speed is.
@Commander Cross
-
Hawke wasn’t the one getting torn apart.
@Officer Galorian
My bad for mis-reading the part, then. *facepalms on those regards, as any other time the urges to grab the pie-gun would have been called for, but in here, not the case*
1. Hawke needs no wand to do magic.
2. Hawke has blood magic (mind control FTW) “Harry, would you kindly kill yourself?”
3. Magic shield and magic resistance FTW.
Harry bites the dust here.
@TrashMan
Due to Occlumency plus having tanked one attempted form of Mind Control in Book 04(but for the life of me i cannot recall which chapter in particular for the Goblet of Fire in question, but it was in a class by Moody’s imposter!) attempting to get Mr. Potter through mind-control is nowhere near as easy as it would sound(although its still possible should Hawke manage to injure Mr. Potter significantly enough, it would not be advisable to try until some of Hawke’s blood is on Mr. Potter’s!)
The Potter-world also has wandless magic, except its shown in less frequency compared to what Dragon Age would offer, in general(not to mention it may depend on how Doc Lowk would ‘customize’ Mr. Potter for the sake of fight-balance, since Old-Owl Rowling’s next to outright reluctant in writing said kind of combat situation i would have maimed to see/read about, actually!)
Is mind-reading still a viable option for either side, here, depending on how Doc Lowk customized the whole fight in general?
@Commander Cross
-
Wandless magic is practically useless, especially in a fight.
-
“Due to Occlumency plus having tanked one attempted form of Mind Control in Book 04(but for the life of me i cannot recall which chapter in particular for the Goblet of Fire in question, but it was in a class by Moody’s imposter!) attempting to get Mr. Potter through mind-control is nowhere near as easy as it would sound”
-
That’s the thing with blood magic (and why it’s rightly universally feared in DA)- it controls it’s victims by controlling their blood and using them like puppets- It’s nearly impossible to resist.