Suggested by chuck inglish
Here we have Killy from the Manga series called Blame! making his debut on FactPile up against site favorite and Hall of Famer Kharn the Betrayer from Warhammer 40K.
Most times a WH40K character appears on the site you think that they will have a pretty good chance of winning. But after doing some research on Killy, I’m not sure exactly how this match will play out.
What say you?
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I just read some stuff about this guy the other day looking for sci fi shows. I don’t read most manga so couldn’t get that far into the series. But what’s the best feat of his gun (he has some fancy gun right?)
I agree, the gun sounds interesting.
We need some feats for the weapon and the speed/marksmanship of Killy as well as his “power” reserves. Kharn is fairly well documented/powerscaled already, but we need to put those into context against his opponent.
I heard that Killy’s reaction speeds are relativistic to lightspeed at a point in Blame! so how would Kharn expect to even touch him if he’s that fast?
IF he’s that fast, and IF the gun is strong enough to do anything to Chaos Armour, and IF it bypasses Kharn’s Daemonic Invulnerability, THEN I would say Kharn has little options available to him.
“I heard that Killy’s reaction speeds are relativistic to lightspeed at a point in Blame! so how would Kharn expect to even touch him if he’s that fast?”
Wait till he gets tired?
“IF the gun is strong enough to do anything to Chaos armor”
Those bullets had better be made out of Godmantium then.
I suggested this for CIDE since killy is his favorite character
What happened to Kharn in the latest image sent?
Wait is Killy the main character of the same series with the Safeguard armor? I remember Cide saying that guy has FTL reflexes and a gigaton pistol along with 100+ ton strength and mad regen… If Killy’s the guy he was talking about, and if all that’s true, I’d say he’s got this.
Wasn’t killy up against master chief I can’t seem to find it. I think there were scans there.
killy’s gun GBE is a citybuster on it’s lowest setting and it has 4 settings
take that kharn kock suckers
I’ll gather up scans after I take my dog to the Vet. Until then I’ll outline some feats for Killy.
Strength: He’s personally lifted objects (assuming concrete/steel) in the double to triple digiton tons. He often even reliable wrestles characters that are in the 3-400 ton lifting range themselves.
Speed: His movement speed has been questionable. He however has dodged gravity beams (if we assume the speed of gravity anywhere from .8c-1.2c) and even shot another gravity beam mid travel with his own to halt its travel. He’s also dodged lasers (or called lasers in dialogue) as well as particle weapons.
Durability: He’s been shot several times throughout the series with varying effects. At his weakest (he progressively gets stronger as he ‘upgrades’) he reacted much like a human would when getting shot in terms of damage; though he regularly ignores that and the pain. Further down the road bullets cause little to none flesh damage but with no significant penetration.
His limbs regularly get removed with no ill effect. After fighting the level 9 safeguard he was caught in a city’block’s work of molten steel and concrete that cooled and hardened around him. During a self diagnostic it showed that he had lost 40-50% of his mass that he had eventually regenerated on his own before clawing his way out of the concrete and metal. His gun survived the same assault without any damage.
Near the end of the Manga a Safeguard shows his head and blows the back of it completely off. That still only slows him down.
Experience: As far as can be proven he’s been at it for abou 3,000 years. That’s simply what he remembers. He regularly fights enemies around his own level and sometimes even superior if the 3k years prior to the manga is the same as before. While he does occasionally get beaten it’s usually temporary and he comes back later to defeat the same opponent.
Senses: There are no hearing or smell feats. Visuals however allow him to view a target over 3,000 kilometers away. He was capable of looking at his body suit (which he randomly found) and list off the chemical components and their percentages. He’s even able to look at someone that could pass as human and tell if they’re a Safeguard or Silicon Life.
Weapons: His primary weapon is the aforementioned gravity gun. It has 4 settings as already mentioned. On its weakest it shot a hole through the city maybe 5-10 meters wide and over 70 kilometers long. This is through concrete, steel, and various other unknown materials.
Now, this last one I’m only partially sure of. Iirc Cibo mentioned throwing gigatons worth of explosives at the Super Structure; a barrier between different sections of The City (giant dyson sphere said to be large enough to enclose both the sun and reach to Jupiter) that acts as a barrier. Killy shot a hole through the Super STructure in one shot when the aforementioned explosions didn’t even scratch it.
Later in the manga he gets a hold of a laser. Only feat for this is when he cut the head off a Silicon lifeform at close range with it with a swinging-like motion.
To me this seems like a stomp and something of a spite match. I purposely avoided posting this myself as I originally wanted to.
@Admin: Can I have the stock image you posted for Killy? Full sized if possible? It’s not one I’ve seen before and I wanted to add it to my collection.
@CIDE
I gave admin that pic th00.deviantart.net/fs40/300W/f/2009/024/2/5/Killy_by_e_spine.jpg
I got it from deviant art
“: His primary weapon is the aforementioned gravity gun. It has 4 settings as already mentioned. On its weakest it shot a hole through the city maybe 5-10 meters wide and over 70 kilometers long. This is through concrete, steel, and various other unknown materials.
Now, this last one I’m only partially sure of. Iirc Cibo mentioned throwing gigatons worth of explosives at the Super Structure; a barrier between different sections of The City (giant dyson sphere said to be large enough to enclose both the sun and reach to the Super STructure in one shot when the aforementioned explosions didn’t even scratch it.”
If anyone wants to claim anime/manga is overpowered here would be the appropriate time to do so.
“If anyone wants to claim anime/manga is overpowered here would be the appropriate time to do so.”
IT kind of works though since many of the enemies employ EM technology (A universal force stronger than gravity) in both weapons and defensive measures.
So what I’m getting from Cide’s post is that Kharn can’t speedblitz or aimdodge a guy with FTL reflexes, the gun once fired can’t be dodged because it’s light speed, and that it would WTFPWN Kharn with one shot. If they start at a great distance, Killy will see Kharn first and has a minimum 70km range advantage. Technically it’s irrelevant since Kharn will never get into close quarters anyway, but in melee Killy is potentially stronger than Kharn, definitely has faster reflexes, and regularly wrestles guys that can lift a baneblade at the low end/a baneblade with a land raider stacked on top at the high end. Really don’t see how Kharn can win.
“If anyone wants to claim anime/manga is overpowered here would be the appropriate time to do so.”
Still think comics are worse. The sheer number of galaxy busters in Marvel is staggering, and almost all their cosmics are physically FTL continent/planetbusters and can tank the same. The 100 ton scale is downright inadequate. Calling guys who can punch out planets 100 ton strength is misleading at best given that he can put out around 54,000,000,000 TERATONS with a punch.
““If anyone wants to claim anime/manga is overpowered here would be the appropriate time to do so.”
Still think comics are worse. The sheer number of galaxy busters in Marvel is staggering, and almost all their cosmics are physically FTL continent/planetbusters and can tank the same. The 100 ton scale is downright inadequate. Calling guys who can punch out planets 100 ton strength is misleading at best given that he can put out around 54,000,000,000 TERATONS with a punch.”
Exactly. While Killy would be incredibly potent and dangerous in either comic-verse he’d be several orders of magnitude from the top tier.
lol so is this a stomp??
“he’d be several orders of magnitude from the top tier.”Top tier is infinity plus one and on forth, so dunno how that works. He’s still in spiderman’s varying power range
,so I would say he is about Several x 5 from top tier in terms of tiers.
Marvel pretty much cheated their way to be the most powerful universe.
“lol so is this a stomp??”
Killy is to Kharn as the Silver Surfer is to Killy. Chuck must really hate Kharn.
“Still think comics are worse.”
True, but in this instance I could actually understand if someone went “anime is op” or something like that.
“lol so is this a stomp??”
Not until evidence of these things is shown. Then after that then it’ll be a stomp.
@Lahari, I’m confused as hell. Killy is far above Spiderman, but he’s still massively less powerful than any of the heralds, skyfathers, abstracts, and multiversal near omnipotents (to say nothing of the true omnipotent). To illustrate, if a gigaton nuke were detonated the radius of total destruction would be around 100km. A galaxy buster can wipe an area 50,000 light years in radii and 1,000 in thickness. Taking only the area into account, this is 16 orders of magnitude above Killy even if his gun were to emit a sphere of destruction instead of a narrow line. Note that this is only the area of effect. The energy you would have to unleash to actually pull this off is extremely likely to be hundreds of orders of magnitude above a gigaton (it takes 13 orders of magnitude above a gigaton just to explode ONE planet). Best case scenario is a targeted attack destroying every star and planet in the galaxy (so you don’t have to actually make a blast big enough to cover the galaxy). To do that, you’re looking at 50 billion planets at 54 trillion gigatons each, let’s say 300 stars (wiki says 200-400) at 160 billion trillion gigatons each, and a whole bunch of unquantified crap like asteroids, dust clouds, and the like. Of course, this is Marvel so even that (as in a genuine blast big enough to cover the galaxy and powerful enough to wipe everything in it, not the targeted attack I just mentioned), puts you far below the top tier (which I consider to be abstracts and above) who can all wipe at least the universe and most of which can easily wipe multiverses. There are around 100 billion galaxies in the area of space THAT WE CAN SEE (so there’s almost certainly more of them). Cide is only wrong in just HOW MANY orders of magnitude the top tiers are above Killy. It’s not an issue of several orders of magnitude, it’s an issue of hundreds if not thousands of orders of magnitude. For the record, if we take several orders of magnitude to mean 5, that’d still only put him at continent busting ie he’d still get bitch slapped by Superman, Thor, pissed off Hulk, etc.
“Not until evidence of these things is shown. Then after that then it’ll be a stomp.”
I was just waiting for someone to ask. I’ll have to see if I can find the manga; a lot of sites don’t host them anymore and I only have about half of it saved to my computer.
“For the record, if we take several orders of magnitude to mean 5, that’d still only put him at continent busting ie he’d still get bitch slapped by Superman, Thor, pissed off Hulk, etc.”
The only one I’d potentially debate against is the Hulk. Even then it’d be a battle of attrition at that.
“Killy is to Kharn as the Silver Surfer is to Killy. Chuck must really hate Kharn.”
nah I just hate overlyhyped tabletop characters
I found a scan where killy shoots his GBE www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?11cbfb9276.jpg
“I’ll have to see if I can find the manga; a lot of sites don’t host them anymore and I only have about half of it saved to my computer.”
www.thespectrum.net/manga_scans/?preview=manga_Blame
All chapters should be present
“Killy is far above Spiderman”He isn’t sadly.
There are spidermans that can own him with ease. I said “He’s still in spiderman’s varying power range”
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That jerk has a lazy eye, what a sucker.
Note for the following scans: I’m just getting started. This is only within the first 13 chapters or so (and actually excluding 1-7). Basically I haven’t hit the good stuff yet. I’m just getting tired of the reading.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c008.2/23.html
He can mess with the power of his shots. He shots while inside a small flying vessel (they call it a “ship”) but clearly no damage to the hull on the other side of the Skivve’s head.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c008.3/9.html
A shot from his gun. Unknown power level but its recoil is enough to launch him back. This changes with the plot though as he has been known to fire full charged shots with just a shrug. Or later he fires a level 4 shot (most powerful) and it blows his arm off.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c008.3/10.html
This is the aftermath of the previous shot.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c008.3/11.html
Also from the same shot.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c008.3/19.html
Durability.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c008.3/20.html
After the previous explosion. This is still an unupgraded Killy.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c009.2/23.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c009.2/24.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c009.3/1.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c009.3/10.html
Killy’s arm removed. It means very little to him. His other arm is shot by the lasers/beams/wtfever and he can still shoot his weapon.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/7.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/16.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/17.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/19.html
The above are all for the explosion. Nothing about the yields, however below are some images to show the scale.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/1.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/2.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/3.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c010/6.html
This is the inside and outside of the tower portrayed in the above image. I can’t find the mention of gigatons and going by that image I kind of doubt that scale also. Still, the gun is still very impressive.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c011/20.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v02/c011/21.html
The aforementioned super structure.
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A single shot from Killy destroyed an area 70 kilometres in length. Considering most of that was solid metal that’s a ridiculous amount firepower
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As we see, the shot goes through the metal wall and once again blows up a skyscraper sized metal structure.
i like killy’s name and his op gun
I haven’t seen it said yet so i’ll say it.
Anime is OP.
(Compared to some)
Durability killy surviving a long fall
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Alright, Some more links and still not even close to done. This is it for tonight though.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c012.2/2.html
He shot a safeguard’s gravity beam before it could hit its intended target (Killy’s ally Cibo).
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c012.2/3.html
The aftermath of the beams hitting each other.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c012.2/4.html
And killy is just fine after that explosion. And clearly more durable than concrete.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c015/3.html
His eye’s sensors
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c015/4.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c015/5.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c015/19.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c015/21.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c015/22.html
His sensors in action some more.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/11.html
Durability again
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/12.html
X-ray vision
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/13.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/14.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/15.html
He’s wrestling the Safeguard in the 3-400 ton range. I’ll provide proof of her strength later (as it comes up WAY later in the series). I should note that the reason he does virtually no damage is Sanakan’s (the safeguard) regeneration that is incredibly fast.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/24.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/26.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/27.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/28.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/29.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c016/30.html
Sanakan’s regeneration just to support the earlier statement.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c018/3.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c018/4.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c018/5.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c018/6.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c018/7.html
Just one of the kinds of things Killy fights regularly. Yes, it has a giant sized gravity beam emitter.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c018/17.html
And these.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v03/c018/19.html
He can fire quick enough that the previous beam (which if it travels the speed of gravity is within 20% the speed of light plus or minus) is still int he same frame.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v04/c019/7.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v04/c019/20.html
He dodges the GBE shot.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v04/c020/15.html
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v04/c020/16.html
Durability again. His resistance to pain and injury too.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v04/c020/22.html
He has the accuracy to shoot an incoming beam too. Not sure about the scale/size/power of the interaction, that may be PIS. Either way.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v04/c020/23.html
After the previous shot.
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He’s not feeling all that great.
www.mangafox.com/manga/blame/v04/c020/29.html
But the very next scan he’s up and climbing like it’s nothing.
Killy vs Samus?
“Killy vs Samus?”
Like this one another match that I considered and quickly dismissed.
Killy vs Negi Springfield?
“Killy vs Negi Springfield?”
After skimming a respect thread the issue may still be speed. I could easily be wrong though.
How about Killy vs Vampire Hunter D?
Both have similar lightspeed reaction feats and D is a pain to kill also.
Someone give Chuck the pat on the head he so desperately needs. Maybe that way, he won’t have the need to suggest stomp matches just to get his rocks off.
We all loose with stomp matches, folks.
On a side note, Killy sounds neat. Thanks for bringing him to my attention, CIDE. Sounds like this guy is up to go against some high-tiered comic characters.
“There are spidermans that can own him with ease. I said “He’s still in spiderman’s varying power range””
I must’ve missed this, but since when could Spiderman tank a gigaton? Best speed I’ve ever heard for him is mildly supersonic, which is not going to cut it against a guy with light speed reflexes. Like Kharn, he can’t dodge after the GBE is fired. And let’s clear something up, pre-cog does not work on a guy that much faster than you. Pre-cog works by telling you where the other guy’s going to aim, and then you can move to not be there when he fires. The problem with that is if the other guy is significantly faster than you, he’s not STILL going to be aiming where you just were, he’s going to be tracking you while you’re moving. Because the premise is that he’s faster than you, he’s always going to track faster than you can move, ie you can’t aimdodge him. The same deal goes for melee. Even assuming the other guy doesn’t adjust his first slash after you move to block it, he’s much faster than you and will cut you in half before your sword gets in position to block his second swing. On a side note, that latter principle also works on “deflectors” like Jedi. I’d really like to see movie Luke or Obi-wan trying to deflect 20 bullets per second from a MG42. Difference between guns and melee is that in melee the same thing that gives you high “muzzle velocity” also usually gives you a faster “cyclic rate” (if you can swing a sword faster than someone else, you can probably also swing it again before he can); in guns the two are completely independent. I’m not saying pre-cog is completely useless, but it’s not some magic I-win button that will save your ass against a guy orders of magnitude faster than you.
“Someone give Chuck the pat on the head he so desperately needs. Maybe that way, he won’t have the need to suggest stomp matches just to get his rocks off.
We all loose with stomp matches, folks.”
Try telling that to Negative Zero. We’ve been trying to tell him his personal vendetta is clogging up the site with unwanted garbage and preventing better matches from being posted, but I’m not sure we’re getting through to him. Hell, unlike this one it doesn’t even introduce new characters to the site…
“Someone give Chuck the pat on the head he so desperately needs. Maybe that way, he won’t have the need to suggest stomp matches just to get his rocks off.”
you mad bro?? I just wanted to introduce someone new so instead of using MC I used kharn
“On a side note, Killy sounds neat. Thanks for bringing him to my attention”
you’re welcome bro
Sure…
…or you could have done what was right and propper the first time around and actually give the guy a good matchup. Im looking at the stuff presented for Killy, and he is looking (arguably) somewhat of a Green Lantern level character.
Like I said, no one wins in stomps, but if your ego gets stroked out of something like this, then more power to you.
“stroked out”
lol he said stroked
/applause
The kid actually understood the inuendo. Go get yourself a second pat on the head for being so awesome!
chillout gramps
“chillout gramps”
Here’s a shiny red ball, go play in the street, adults are talking.
“Here’s a shiny red ball, go play in the street, adults are talking.”
lol still on my nuts I see.
“lol still on my nuts I see.”
Until you actually find some integrity. So… for eternity.
Earl, it’s impossible for him to be on anything that small….
it’s not cool for a dude to talk about another dudes dick
Post 42 on is what is becoming typical of many FP matches and it makes me sad….
“After skimming a respect thread the issue may still be speed. I could easily be wrong though.”
I am not sure who to put him against. I already suggested him against Dante from DMC, but am pretty sure that would be a bit of a stomp.
“Best speed I’ve ever heard for him is mildly supersonic, which is not going to cut it against a guy with light speed reflexes.”
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you have no idea
@post 53
you mad bro lol you put killy agianst dante why?
@laharl
cosmic spidey FTW!!
“you mad bro lol you put killy agianst dante why?”
No, I suggested Negi Springfield to go against Dante. Quite clear in the context I was using.
@Chuck
I think Krazy is referring to that Springfield character over Killy for a match against Dante. I could be wrong but I hope it’s not Killy as Dante’s had a good track running recently…
Which Chuck? It gets confusing….
“I think Krazy is referring to that Springfield character over Killy for a match against Dante. I could be wrong but I hope it’s not Killy as Dante’s had a good track running recently…”
Exactly. Although I think Negi may be a bit much for Dante.
@forest
I’ll refer to you as ‘forest’ if you don’t mind lol
@krazy
Depends. Can said character react quick enough to a hypersonic character with massive amounts of strength and durability on his side?
“Depends. Can said character react quick enough to a hypersonic character with massive amounts of strength and durability on his side?”
Negi can move and think at the speed of lightning. I believe that when it said think at the speed of lightning that he is able to perceive and react to things at that speed. I can’t quite give you his strength, but he is able to take what he dishes out easily. I will provide sources if/when he is featured in a fight.
The only reason for this match was so that Earl could see the guy who owned his beloved Dante get beaten for once.
@Tabletop game playing fag
you’re starting to irritate me dude oh and when did dante lose to kharn? last time i checked dante outclasses him in every physical way and on top of that he has control over time.. so please stop being a butt hurt homo
“so please stop being a butt hurt homo”
Look at the battle you posted this in, then go look up the deffinition of both hypocrisy and irony.
@CIDE
Killy vs Guyver 1
“Look at the battle you posted this in, then go look up the deffinition of both hypocrisy and irony.”
what?
“you have no idea”
The only spidey I see int hat picture that could reliably without injury beat Killy is the cosmic. Captain Universe for the win.
“@CIDE
Killy vs Guyver 1″
A friend of mine (known as Pyre on this site) and I were actually discussing this. I’m a fan of Guyver but never had the chance to read the entire series so he was left filling in the blanks. He and I kind of agreed it would likely have to be Gigantic Guyver for the match. Or perhaps one of the stronger Zoalords. That’s just an opinion that one though.
Now, does anyone need me to gather up any more scans for this or is it unanimously a stomp?
“Look at the battle you posted this in, then go look up the deffinition of both hypocrisy and irony.
what?”
Mata is saying that you posted this match just to get back at him for the Dante Vs Kharn debate.
“Mata is saying that you posted this match just to get back at him for the Dante Vs Kharn debate.”
why would i do that? when kharn never even won against Dante.. i suggested this just to introduce killy and i put him up against kharn because he’s this site’s favorite character.. my first choice was MC but i wanted to use someone eles
“why would i do that?”
Well…
“take that kharn kock suckers”
I don’t know… just a feeling I guess.
“What happened to Kharn in the latest image sent?”
If I had to guess… he just conquered Heaven. Hence all the holy light.
Earl blatantly has a thing against Kharn and Warhammer in general (since his dreamboy Dante got his ass handed to him), so he pits Kharn against an enemy that he knows he can’t win against just so he can crow over it. The transparency of this act leads me to the conclusion that Earl is either a young child up past his bedtime, or a mentally ill monkey. Perhaps both. Either way, pointless match is pointless and we should all come away knowing why it was created and the fanboy hatred behind it.
@Thousandth son
That match isn’t even decided yet dumbass.. going by your logic admin must have something against Kharn too for this doing this www.factpile.com/2611-superman-vs-kharn/ you’re nothing but a butt hurt kharn fag now please get off my nuts and keep the name EARL SWEATSHIRT out of your posts
Not to defend Earl or anything but just because he pit Kharn against Killy does not mean he has some type of grudge against Kharn. On this website the only way to effectively introduce a character in a thread and get said thread more then 50 posts is to typically put him up against a character that is held in high regard or extreme dislike. Those characters tend to be Kharn, Kratos, and Master Chief respectively especially MC so I understand the method behind the posting.
Plus like he said he can’t be mad about Dante losing cause Dante never lost since its undecided.
What mm said, but I do agree about the young boy and retarded monkey thing. Earl/Chuck/Jimmie/Based God is a pretty stupid fanboy of Dante.
@post 75
Lies and slander
He called you pretty
He STILL believes that a mere peak human can take on a pissed off, super-powered space marine held in high regard by the Chaos god of war.
“He STILL believes that a mere peak human can take on a pissed off, super-powered space marine held in high regard by the Chaos god of war.”
Wait, wait, whoa. Who is the peak human allegedly fighting Kharn? Because I don’t recall ANY peak humans pitted against him in a FP match.
@CIDE
I think he’s referring to Wolverine
Funny that gets brought up considering Wolverine DOES stand a chance at winning. Especially since I still can’t think of a way for Kharn to kill him and no scenario mentioned was a viable Battle Field Removal.
Um Wolverine is definitely superhuman. To say nothing of the fact that “peak humans” don’t have bones that can laugh at planetbusters or regenerate from a skeleton (though I’ll admit his healing factor… varies). I also read somewhere that blades made of adamantium are basically power weapons, which does a lot of explaining as to how Wolverine cuts some of the stuff he does without being massively strong.
“Wolverine cuts some of the stuff he does without being massively strong.”
Wolverine is massively strong though as seen here
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Not even remotely the strongest person ever but there is no human alive that can carry a concert hall piano on his back through a rainforest, swimming up river with it, and a climb a mountain with it with no breaks. Peak human my ass.
Scratch that hardly no breaks. But also no food since animals ate all his food so he survived off bugs for three days straight while carrying that thing and caught and fought off malaria and the ebola virus. Wolverine’s stamina is truly incredible if you think about it.
Wouldnt wolverine be able to opporate at his peak continuously due to his regenerative abilities? By that I mean a peak human could do any individual action in his piano carrying feat, but would knacker himself doing so; but with the regeneration of cells, wolverine could continue to do the actions one after another.
Though in a fight against wolverine your best bet would be to immobilise him and starve him.
@mm
thats due to his regen i think
” By that I mean a peak human could do any individual action in his piano carrying feat”
I dare you show me a man who can mountain climb with a 980lbs(low end for a concert grand)piano held dangling by a rope around his waste and secured by his teeth.
“thats due to his regen i think”
Heavy regen doesn’t allow you to once again swim with a 980lbs piano dangling off your back or any feat shown. His regen allows him to not get tired from doing it and to shrug off all the nasty diseases he’d get from doing it in those conditions.
Looking at the shape and size of the piano that definitely a Steinway Model D piano a 980-990lbs piano. He swam up river, dragged it through a rainforest, and then mountain climbed with it. There are very few people in the world that can even lift that thing over there head let alone carry it any meaningful distance or swim with it. Your gassing what it means to be peak human. Peak Humans can once again not do the things you see in comic books.
“not to defend Earl or anything but just because he pit Kharn against Killy does not mean he has some type of grudge against Kharn. On this website the only way to effectively introduce a character in a thread and get said thread more then 50 posts is to typically put him up against a character that is held in high regard or extreme dislike. Those characters tend to be Kharn, Kratos, and Master Chief respectively especially MC so I understand the method behind the posting.”
But they are hardly worthy opponents to who I want to introduce…
@MM I know he’s superhumanly strong, there’s a scan where he’s lifting either 12 ninjas or an elevator over his head with one arm while fighting with the other. I’m referring to stuff like cutting the Hulk or massive plates of metal.
I’ve put a suggestion for Killy vs Icool. She might bring enough fire power and durability to this match, and some speed too if she’s bringing Shaian, to match Killy or make it a good fight. We’ll see what Admin thinks..
It’d be cool to have a good match. I’ve found it pretty damn hard to think of someone Killy can fight evenly.
Shaian/Icool are not light timers but they bring a lot of fire power and armor to the match and Shaian’s not a bullet timer but pulls off the same effect due to his speed and range of combat. Because no fight I’ve ever suggested has been put up I’ll just give a link to them in combat and let you decide, as I highly doubt a fight with an extremely unknown character will be matched up against Killy, who’s also fairly obscure, although not nearly as much in comparison to Icool.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NpkeX0gQqU&feature=related
Skip to 3:00
I haven’t taken the time to read the manga, unfortunately, but she still seems like a good candidate. I was originally thinking of pitching her against a Dreadnought or Protomech due to Shaian’s actual size but the sheer power of the gun seems like too much for either.
I was honestly shocked by the fact that Killy was even featured. I’ve actually NEVER met anyone online or in real life (though I did see ONE respect thread) that even know who the hell Killy was.
“I was honestly shocked by the fact that Killy was even featured. I’ve actually NEVER met anyone online or in real life (though I did see ONE respect thread) that even know who the hell Killy was.”
uhh cause he’s lame.. he has no personality or sense of humor. He’s just a lame lifeless android
I’ve never heard of him, and I wouldn’t know who Icool is if Dragon’s Heaven wasn’t on MAHQ.net/ … the exceptional obscurity of both of the characters makes me think my suggestion is likely not going to be accepted. There’s no point in running a site like this if you end up catering to obscure interests that no one visiting is likely to recognize. Maybe once in a while sure but not all the time.
That’s my hypothesis anyways.
@ Earl
Heero has no god damned personality in even the slightest sense and he’s with out a doubt the most popular Gundam pilot in the USA. All you really need to do is be cute enough to appeal to the ladies and have an epic gun.
Also, onto that video…
A direct hit from the beam would probably end Killy. Splash damage likely wouldn’t kill him based on that scene alone but could still possibly provide a win because it’d take a while for Killy to repair himself.
All in all it’d depend on who fires first. Which…I’m pretty sure it’d be Killy. He can see out to 3,000 km and his weapon at a minimum provable range is at 70km. So it’d have to start close for the mech to get to it (based on that video alone).
On that note it’d be a hell of a lot closer than this Kharn BS.
“uhh cause he’s lame.. he has no personality or sense of humor. He’s just a lame lifeless android”
Just because he’s not as animated as Dante doesn’t mean he’s lame or lifeless. He’s also not an android.
“I’ve never heard of him, and I wouldn’t know who Icool is if Dragon’s Heaven wasn’t on MAHQ.net/ … the exceptional obscurity of both of the characters makes me think my suggestion is likely not going to be accepted. There’s no point in running a site like this if you end up catering to obscure interests that no one visiting is likely to recognize. Maybe once in a while sure but not all the time.
That’s my hypothesis anyways.”
I’d agree.
“@ Earl
Heero has no god damned personality in even the slightest sense and he’s with out a doubt the most popular Gundam pilot in the USA. All you really need to do is be cute enough to appeal to the ladies and have an epic gun.”
This.
Blame needs an anime so then I could actually see it in action rather than scour the world for the manga or worse, read it online. I HATE reading manga online….
Don’t ask.
Anywho, it sounds like it’d take a lot to really stand up to Killy in a fight. Would be interesting to see him go against someone that isn’t a whipping boy like Master Chief, Kharn, Dante or Link.