Suggested by Negative Zero
Here we have Lara Croft of Tomb Raider up against 2-Time Hall of Fame winner Link from the Legend of Zelda series.
For this match Lara and Link are both given a sword and shield. This is a sword fight only.
No guns for Lara and no magic or gadgets for Link.
This match will use Twilight Princess Link.
Who wins?
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Woah, that was fast…
Lara already got put through worse grinders against samus and that walking forehead from Akira, so win or lose this wont be her worst match at least.
Link also ate shit from Spawn and some others, so he’d be on the up and up himself.
I think its been brought up before TP Link is at least an arrow timer right? Can Croft heft her sword around before the green yelper dices her?
Then Samus returned to finish what she started.
But seriously,
An arrow timer? But I thought Croft mastered just about every kind of martial art, according to someone…
Not only that, but to get through all the traps in her line of business require reflexes to be on peak human level.
She probably has peak reflexes, but I never saw anything about in depth knowledge about every martial art.
It won’t be the worst stomp for either lady in any case.
…………………………………………….(sigh)
I’m not even going to touch this thread.
Since this is just a sword fight, Link probably has this.
Unless croft is a sword god with a bit o crazy technique like Link is.
@ Sparks/Mister Teal
hence “according to someone…”
@Herman
Who said it, and why was it brought up if it’s wrong then lol
@ Sparks
Oh a certain Croft fanboy…don’t think too much about it, I may be wrong about who I accuse.
@ Envoy
What does Link’s super-sword technique do?
Oh okay, you made it sound like that was an actual part of her defense since you had “not only that” subsequent to it.
To start off, the great spin attack gives him the range advantage. 360 sword wave around four feet long is kind of hard to get around.
His charged jump attack also releases an explosion when used. It should easily hit someone who is only avoiding the blade.
Link is an arrow timer, and he does overpower Ganondorf through brute strength, Ganon snaps chain via flexing so Link should be pretty strong.
At close range normal strikes should do well, unless these shields are made of Vibranium, Lara’s gaurd should eventaully fall to these alone. The Helm Spliter is an 8ft front flip over an opponets head to slice it. Mortal Draw is just a quick draw, and Back Slice is him rolling around like Sonic and poking butts.
“To start off, the great spin attack gives him the range advantage. 360 sword wave around four feet long is kind of hard to get around.”
Doesn’t the wave part require magic?
@lowk
Not in TP. nottooshort…………….
“For this match Lara and Link are both given a sword and shield. This is a sword fight only.”
Lara has knowledge of how to use a shield? News to me…
Gimped fight is gimped as Lara lacks the swordsmanship skill to stand up to Link’s in terms of strength or raw ability. Unless she was given that one melee weapon from TR: Underworld, I can’t see her winning this battle against Link.
Prepare for yet another shit storm, gents. 8)
I see this going south…FAST. If Lara really is a martial arts master she could probably just drop her sword and kick Link’s ass just fine. If she isn’t I am going to have to vote for Link.
Couldn’t Lara just pound away on Link with that sword wave thing?
and then lara’s silicoln breast deflects all of links attacks… lol jk
naw i think link is probably going to beat lara. someone who doesnt normally use a sword vs someone who uses a sword all the time id go with experience.
Well, yeah but if she knows advanced martial arts she could easily disarm him and deliver a killing strike, a blow to the trachea mayhaps?
This is going on the assumption that she actually knows them, I don’t know anything about Lara.
If she doesn’t know (which is likely) Link would win due to his experience and skill.
Seems like Iadidala was wise enough to leave this threadf alone. Thats good.
Up next, Lara croft with no weapons against Khorne the Blood God!
“Lara has knowledge of how to use a shield? News to me…”
So a grown woman with no mental disabilities wouldn’t know that a shield was made for blocking shit?
“If Lara really is a martial arts master she could probably just drop her sword and kick Link’s ass just fine.”
Really? If she drops her weapons and tries to come at an experienced swordsman she gets skewered before she’s even in punching distance.
“Couldn’t Lara just pound away on Link with that sword wave thing?”
No, they just get standard ordinary swords and shields (like the sword Link has in his picture).
“yeah but if she knows advanced martial arts she could easily disarm him and deliver a killing strike”
Or Link bashes her in the face with his shield when she gets close enough.
Lara only has a chance if she were wielding excalibur. Otherwise it’s a stomp. Story, end of.
“So a grown woman with no mental disabilities wouldn’t know that a shield was made for blocking shit?”
You realize you have to be properly trained in order to utilize a shield properly, right? Not any dumb shit can lift up a shield and be as skilled as someone like Link with it.
Fail match is fail. Lara should have gotten Excalibur, and Link the Master Sword to make things more interesting.
“You realize you have to be properly trained in order to utilize a shield properly, right? Not any dumb shit can lift up a shield and be as skilled as someone like Link with it.”
She still would know that it’s used for blocking and if it becomes to much of an inconveinience she could always just drop it. Of course, that would leave her with at an even bigger disadvantage.
“Lara should have gotten Excalibur, and Link the Master Sword to make things more interesting.”
If I wanted that I would have used a Link that knew the Sword Beams move. Either way, the match would be no fucking different.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OydCKdKlbM
“She still would know that it’s used for blocking and if it becomes to much of an inconveinience she could always just drop it. Of course, that would leave her with at an even bigger disadvantage.”
Against a skilled sword and shield fighter like Link, I kind of doubt basic knowledge of a shield would really help Lara out when she has no experience with the weapon whatsoever. Link’s got the experience and skill that Lara lacks which will lead him to crush her almost effortlessly.
“If I wanted that I would have used a Link that knew the Sword Beams move. Either way, the match would be no fucking different.”
That’s because you proably suggested this match to be a spite/stomp thread to begin with…
“To start off, the great spin attack gives him the range advantage. 360 sword wave around four feet long is kind of hard to get around.”
“Doesn’t the wave part require magic?”
In TP it requires Link to have full health in order to get these results (it is empowered when his “life energy is brimming full”). It is also bigger than four feet (unless that is referring to four feet after the sword’s tip, in which case it is about right). That attack has quite the kill zone.
www.zeldawiki.org/images/d/d9/Great_Spin.jpg
This is the great spin attack in Twilight Princess. The red area is the range of the attack. The Spin Attack (regular version that Link can use any time) has a hit area equal to the smaller red area (it isn’t red when it is the regular version though), which is just sword length. This attack also does greater damage than the regular Spin Attack.
I like this attack as an opening move. Good for clearing out mooks and dealing tons of damage to bosses if you have Magic Armor equipped.
““You realize you have to be properly trained in order to utilize a shield properly, right? Not any dumb shit can lift up a shield and be as skilled as someone like Link with it.”
She still would know that it’s used for blocking and if it becomes to much of an inconveinience she could always just drop it. Of course, that would leave her with at an even bigger disadvantage.”
She doesn’t have the muscle built up to use a shield properly or for any length of time – using a shield properly is something that requires extensive training and practice. Frankly, she’s probably better off ditching the shield to retain her agility and focus on avoiding attacks or using the sword.
Still … Croft gets beaten by Link anyways, so it’s a moot point.
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OydCKdKlbM”
Ha, I should have given Link the smashing board!
“Against a skilled sword and shield fighter like Link, I kind of doubt basic knowledge of a shield would really help Lara out when she has no experience with the weapon whatsoever. Link’s got the experience and skill that Lara lacks which will lead him to crush her almost effortlessly.”
There’s still a chance she could block some of Link’s attacks.
“That’s because you proably suggested this match to be a spite/stomp thread to begin with…”
Yeah a little bit, but mostly to try and end the Natla vs Zant thread (admin apparently won’t award and lock it for some damn reason). Look at it, over 1000 comments of mostly nothing but ladidala’s bullshit. A perfect copy of the LC vs ZSS thread. Then again, this could end up the same………well it’s a friggin’ cycle with ladidala anyway that won’t end until admin BANS HIM (hint hint admin).
“There’s still a chance she could block some of Link’s attacks.”
Even if she could block some of them, she’d still be thrown off and harmed by the force behind Link’s attacks because she lacks the physique to properly use a shield as pointed out by Kytheros on Post # 27.
As for Ladi and the shit storms that erupt in Tomb Raider threads nowadays, I don’t think he’d be banned. Yes, he’s a prick. Yes, he’s a snob. Yes, he’s an America hater but if other retard or asshole debaters like Srece didn’t get banned, I doubt he will as he just has to be ignored just like he was on Salt vs Smith vs Croft and it seems to shut him up when CIDE and others ceased responding to him.
TR threads shouldn’t be posted to avoid all the useless clutter that comes with them…
“I don’t think he’d be banned.”
Because you have to be a racist Nazi to feel the wrath of admin’s rusty dusty ban hammer.
“Yes, he’s a prick. Yes, he’s a snob. Yes, he’s an America hater”
That’s putting it lightly.
“other retard or asshole debaters like Srece didn’t get banned, I doubt he will as he just has to be ignored”
Srece realized he wasn’t wanted and left. Ladidala is incapable of realizing that and therefore will hang around and be a dick until he’s banned. Plus if you ignore him, he thinks he’s won, then starts bragging about how he won.
“TR threads shouldn’t be posted to avoid all the useless clutter that comes with them…”
What if ladidala wasn’t here though?
“Yeah a little bit, but mostly to try and end the Natla vs Zant thread (admin apparently won’t award and lock it for some damn reason). Look at it, over 1000 comments of mostly nothing but ladidala’s bullshit. A perfect copy of the LC vs ZSS thread. Then again, this could end up the same………well it’s a friggin’ cycle with ladidala anyway that won’t end until admin BANS HIM (hint hint admin).”
So to end one bad match you submitted another knowing it could become just as bad as the last? Then made it worse by giving both sides equipment that only your side had any meaningful experience in…. because of Ladi?
“So to end one bad match you submitted another knowing it could become just as bad as the last?”
I’m hoping this one won’t become another “ladidala special” but thats probably hoping for too much.
“Then made it worse by giving both sides equipment that only your side had any meaningful experience in”
Lara knows how to use a sword. That fact that she’s fucking wielding one in her picture would tell you that.
Either way, it looks like ladidala won’t be commenting so this thread may just end up dieing.
“If I wanted that I would have used a Link that knew the Sword Beams move. Either way, the match would be no fucking different.”
It would’ve made a bit of a difference, That sword knocks people a good distance away.
“I’m hoping this one won’t become another “ladidala special” but thats probably hoping for too much.”
For some reason it feels like you suggested specifically for that very purpose.
“Lara knows how to use a sword. That fact that she’s fucking wielding one in her picture would tell you that.”
Note I said meaningful experince. Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Lara use the sword in that picture as a ranged weapon?
” Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Lara use the sword in that picture as a ranged weapon?”
Yeah, but Link has no problems with that. In TP, he deflected magic bolts from puppet Zelda’s sword and hero’s shade’s swords quite nicely. Whether or not he even has the MS, His shield propels magic and projectile attacts back at their intended targets. I hope Lara is able to dodge of repel her own beams…
Sorry, that should be “dodge or repel her own beams…”
“It would’ve made a bit of a difference, That sword knocks people a good distance away.”
No. It would become a match of “who can fling more sword beams at the other”.
“For some reason it feels like you suggested specifically for that very purpose.”
Meh….yes and no in a way. I’m still holding out hope on ladidala getting banned though.
“Note I said meaningful experince. Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Lara use the sword in that picture as a ranged weapon?”
Can’t she at least do a few sword combos?
“Because you have to be a racist Nazi to feel the wrath of admin’s rusty dusty ban hammer. ”
Precisely why Dragon(?) was banned.
“Plus if you ignore him, he thinks he’s won, then starts bragging about how he won.”
It’s called leave a retard to his machinations. If no one else will make him feel special, he does so himself. Instead, you butt in and make him feel even better when he’s ‘beating you with irony’.
“So to end one bad match you submitted another knowing it could become just as bad as the last? Then made it worse by giving both sides equipment that only your side had any meaningful experience in…. because of Ladi?”
This x2.
“Meh….yes and no in a way. I’m still holding out hope on ladidala getting banned though.”
Think about it; if Chuck never got banned when everyone was calling for it, do you really think Ladi will? Granted Chuck’s much more bearable and at least stays on topic with debates that concern characters he’s knowledgeable on so he’s at least debating and relatively entertaining at times.
“Can’t she at least do a few sword combos?”
She’s not Link, Kratos or anyone else like that because she’s still effectively just a human. I mean, Link’s Hylian Batman with his gadgets, skills and bag of tricks but Croft…..not so much.
@Marcel
Was just stating that Lara doesn’t seem to have experince regarding swordsmanship.
“Yeah, but Link has no problems with that. In TP, he deflected magic bolts from puppet Zelda’s sword and hero’s shade’s swords quite nicely. Whether or not he even has the MS, His shield propels magic and projectile attacts back at their intended targets. I hope Lara is able to dodge or repel her own beams…”
Weren’t those singular projectiles? The blast Lara uses is more of a wave. Has he reflected a wave type blast before?
Not that it really matters since both are given ordinary weapons. Also, doesn’t magic being deflected by ordinary weapons make the magic of LoZ look bad? I mean it seems wrong that any old weapon should be able to do that.
From what I’ve seen her time with that sword boiled down to swinging it and letting the blast take care of the rest.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0Pg2RNnSw
Maybe someone with more experince with the series has something showing her do better regarding swords. I’ve yet to find anything.
The last bit was in response to “Can’t she at least do a few sword combos?”
“I mean, Link’s Hylian Batman with his gadgets”
I wonder if Batman vs Link would’ve been better. Maybe one scenario with some gadgets and one similar to this current(close quarter weapons only).
Oh, I completely forgot about Lara’s secret and most powerful weapon….
The Breastus Hugeus.
Not extremely on topic but:
“Not that it really matters since both are given ordinary weapons. Also, doesn’t magic being deflected by ordinary weapons make the magic of LoZ look bad? I mean it seems wrong that any old weapon should be able to do that. ”
This varies. Sometimes magic can be blocked by the mundane objects and sometimes not. Sometimes it is reflected and sometimes not. It depends a lot on the spell.
Also I would not call Zelda verse magic weak or poor in any way. Yeah, the tennis ball spells are far too common (so much so that there is an actual in-universe name for such spells [Dead Man's Volley]), but the high end stuff is pretty tough stuff. Weather control over quite a significant distance, teleportation over equal distance, projected awareness, interdimensional travel, resurrection (several variants with different degrees of restoration and complexity), time stops (anywhere from immediate area to a significant distance), magic reflection spell, several polymorph spells, and small scale time manipulation (double time and half time), and large scale time travel (Link could jump between two periods separated by 400 years; it is implied that Nayru the Oracle of Time had total control over time by sheer will and could do just about anything with it she wanted).
So yeah, the small scale spells are fairly pathetic. Stuff like “fireball” and such are not all that impressive in the Zeldaverse. The higher tier stuff though is pretty decent reality warping. People like Zelda the Sage of Time and Nayru the Oracle of Time could rewrite history in a few seconds. Din the Oracle of Seasons enforced her will upon the earth causing it to obey her and act accordingly thus keeping the seasons in their “proper” order (again it is implied that without people keeping things in their “proper” order the world of Hyrule would not function like our own in either nature or physics). Ganon and Ciela both split their very souls with magic, and used their other halves to break themselves out of transdimensinoal prisons. A simple magician managed to put Sleeping Zelda to sleep for several years, possibly centuries (although it did cause him to die) while the same time allowed her to not suffer the effects of aging and being comatose.
But yeah, some spells are pretty pathetic. The higher end stuff though will wreck you. It is often plot shielding that allows Link to save the day, and he also manages to create a whole lot of problems before he fixes anything.
“I wonder if Batman vs Link would’ve been better. Maybe one scenario with some gadgets and one similar to this current(close quarter weapons only).”
If it’s the TP Link, I think Bats has a pretty good chance of winning it. Without magic, the match could prove entertaining and it’s not like Batman hasn’t fought sword users before anyway.
“I wonder if Batman vs Link would’ve been better. Maybe one scenario with some gadgets and one similar to this current(close quarter weapons only).”
How about one with no weapons and equipment.
Not that it really matters much but TP Link has naturally superhuman strength. He was able to pick up and throw Gorons and a giant armored Goron. He is also able to trip Fyrus (who’s height I would estimate to be as tall as 3-4 grown men) just by pulling the chains around his ankles.
www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=iw&v=0A2nyZghpCI
Plus at around 34 seconds in Link opens a HUGE door just by pushing it to the side. In close quarters combat Link might be able to literally snap Lara in half.
““So to end one bad match you submitted another knowing it could become just as bad as the last? Then made it worse by giving both sides equipment that only your side had any meaningful experience in…. because of Ladi?”
This x2.”
Thirded. Negative I understand you’re pissed at Ladi, but THIS IS NOT A REASON TO CLOG UP THE SITE WITH USELESS BULLSHIT. You’re adding to the problem, not helping it.
As for her swordsmanship, the sword in question happens to be Excalibur, which in this universe lets out getsuga tensho with every swing. The technique involved boils down to “swing the sword and watch a wave of destruction blow the crap out of everything in front of you”. A 5 year old with Down’s syndrome could do that. Hell, a spastic moron could pull it off on accident.
““So to end one bad match you submitted another knowing it could become just as bad as the last? Then made it worse by giving both sides equipment that only your side had any meaningful experience in…. because of Ladi?”
This x2.”
Sounds a little familiar, doesn’t it? (hint: Most of the halo matches on this site)
“As for her swordsmanship, the sword in question happens to be Excalibur,”
The sword in question is a regular sword just like the one Link is given in this match.
“Negative I understand you’re pissed at Ladi,”
Pissed? I HATE that worthless little shitbag. To quote Dr. Perry Ulyssess Cox, I “megaloathe” him.
“but THIS IS NOT A REASON TO CLOG UP THE SITE WITH USELESS BULLSHIT. You’re adding to the problem, not helping it.”
He doesn’t seem to be commenting anyway.
“He doesn’t seem to be commenting anyway.”
Too tell the truth I’d like to see ladi and Fisher go at it, that would be far more intresting than natla vs. zant was…
(Though admittedly I too have requested that thread be locked… if it is then hooray.. if its not… well… I’m not about too stop, may as well keep the garbage in one area than spread it around (seeing as how ladi doesn’t even take the time to read/participate any other threads it seems to be working….))
“Too tell the truth I’d like to see ladi and Fisher go at it, that would be far more intresting than natla vs. zant was…”
You’d have to suggest a Lara Croft vs Warhammer match.
The argument for Croft had been reduced to whether or not she gets Excalibur, does she get the sword?
God, iadidala doesn’t deserve fisherking….wait, yes he does!!
RELEASE THE FISHERKING!!!!
“The sword in question is a regular sword just like the one Link is given in this match.”
You misunderstand. “The sword in question” refers to “That fact that she’s fucking wielding one in her picture would tell you that.” The sword in the picture and the only one she’s ever been depicted wielding is Excalibur.
Fisherking vs Ladidala….
Yeah, my money’s on FK.
Maybe we should suggest that match to admin…….
@ w00tm0ng3r:
According to the canon the only sword Lara Croft as wielded is Excalibur.
According to this match’s stipulations (which by Factpile rules, allows it to disregard other rules like standard equipment), she just gets a regular sword.
Link too only has a regular sword for this match according to this match’s stipulations. Both also have a shield.
“Fisherking vs Ladidala….”
Probably wouldn’t get as far as some would think. Take this match or Lara vs Master Chief for example. Maybe if given her artifacts…. Hey! That might make this match better, Link and his TP gear vs Lara with her gear/artifacts minus guns.
@ Lowk
TP Gear includes Bombs strapped to Arrows that explode with enough force to blast apart larger than human sized boulders, and a mask that works like a functional sniper’s scope with up to 10x magnification.
You might want to rethink that a bit.
Fisherking vs Iadidala
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!!!!!
Will Fisher debate in a Lara Croft vs Kharn match?
Where Lara will get everything while Kharn fights with no weapons nor any equipment?
Why not Kharn as a gene seed vs Croft? I bet she’d still lose.
“Will Fisher debate in a Lara Croft vs Kharn match?”
Oh I don’t know, its entirely possible he won’t waste his time with ladi.
“Where Lara will get everything while Kharn fights with no weapons nor any equipment?”
I was thinking we have him unarmoured and only give him Gorechild (Although ‘technically’ its possible he will be even faster without the armor…). (Though I suppose we don’t have to use specifically Lara as the victim, there’s gotta be other candidates suitable from TR right?)
Kharn as a gene-seed?
Wasn’t Kharn one of his Legion’s “firstborn” Marines? Which, if I’m not mistaken makes Kharn as a gene-seed (part of) his Primarch.
If Kharn wasn’t born from his Primarch, as a gene-seed he’d still have been (part of) a Marine anyways.
One of those results in a stomp of epic proportions, and the other one has a Primarch.
Natla, Lara, and someone else, all against Kharn
“Too tell the truth I’d like to see ladi and Fisher go at it, that would be far more intresting than natla vs. zant was…”
I would rather see Mike go up against Ladi. Ladi just seems like an even dumber version of Mike. Just suggest any SoT character vs any TR character. Hell you could have it be a 3 way fight and add a WH character to get Fisher King in there.
Try a four way battle royal to bring in Chuck too. Personally, I think Chuck or Fisher would relent first because Ladi and Mike seem to have a greater capacity to go on and on about crap for EXTENDED periods of time while Chuck and Fisher seem to stop or at least have some common sense to not bother there.
Lara Croft vs Dante vs Kharn vs someone else from SoT.
No equipment, no weapons.
“Try a four way battle royal to bring in Chuck too. Personally, I think Chuck or Fisher would relent first because Ladi and Mike seem to have a greater capacity to go on and on about crap for EXTENDED periods of time while Chuck and Fisher seem to stop or at least have some common sense to not bother there.”
That would make for an entertaining argument to watch.
“That would make for an entertaining argument to watch.”
Yea, just suggest a SoT character vs RT and make yourself some popcorn.
Well, somewhat back on topic, Link definitely has a singular strength advantage over Lara in this match, and if he makes any kind of connection with his sword OR shield, Lara would be in deep trouble real fast. however, I’m not sure who has the speed advantage here. Sure, Link has arrow-timing reflexes, coupled with the speed necessary to dodge them from near point-blank range, but isn’t Lara shown do do some freaky speed stuff herself? On that note, Link also has some serious agility, but Isn’t Lara also something of an acrobat herself? Perhaps Link does has several significant advantages, including in the realm of swordplay, but Lara may have an advantage over Link in other ways. Link hasn’t exactly shown himself to be the most brilliant strategist, just jumping into situations without thinking of the consequences whatsoever. Maybe Lara can stall the green freak long enough to try and put together a plan to stay alive. Anybody with any knowledge of aforementioned possibilities for Lara? Anyone?
O, BTW Mike what’s up with the MLP all of a sudden? Just curious…
@ Marcel
Link is well known for his ability to quickly analyze a situation to best defeat his opponent. So strategy is actually one of hi strong points, not a weak point. Hell, almost all the bosses in LoZ are about finding the best/correct strategy to win.
Type your message here.”Link is well known for his ability to quickly analyze a situation to best defeat his opponent. So strategy is actually one of hi strong points, not a weak point. Hell, almost all the bosses in LoZ are about finding the best/correct strategy to win.”
Isn’t that partly due to helpers like Midna and Navi hinting or pointing out weakness?
“According to the canon the only sword Lara Croft as wielded is Excalibur.
According to this match’s stipulations (which by Factpile rules, allows it to disregard other rules like standard equipment), she just gets a regular sword.
Link too only has a regular sword for this match according to this match’s stipulations. Both also have a shield.”
I know that! Ok, apparently this needs a good deal of clarification or something because no one’s getting it. Negative said that Lara is holding a sword in the picture, and he thinks this is evidence that she has some sword skills. I pointed out that the extent of her sword experience is swinging a barely sword shaped object at targets 30 feet away. I’m not trying to argue that she should have Excalibur.
Well Zant iced Natla.
Too bad FPA is on Sundays, then this spite thread could’ve been called off maybe lol.
What’s the word on Lara’s soul-sucking sword, or will she not be the “vengeance-getter” for the TR universe against ZeldaU.
Actually soul sucking and sword beams may be out of place in the swordfighters section.
@W00t:
My apologies for misunderstanding you.
I see now that you point was not that “she has it there so she should have it here”, but rather “all she ever did with it was swing it around like a kid with a toy sword and the deadly, wide, area of effect sword beams did all the work.”
@Mr. Teal:
“What’s the word on Lara’s soul-sucking sword,”
That is a non-canon, Easter egg, new game plus item.
Within the story and the canon, it does no exist.
It is also against match stipulations.
… I really hope I’m not misunderstanding something again. I do that far too much, as the above adds yet another notch to my losses against reading comprehension.
Lara’s sword beams were probably sword specific rather than an innate skill.
TP Link cannot shoot sword beams. While the Master Sword is capable of shooting them, TP Link must first ask “how do I shot sword beam?”, but he never asked that to the Hero’s Shade, and so never learned how to do it.
Whew…. freedom at last…. Unless ladi decides to start posting here I don’t think we’ll be hearing much of him until a match he thinks is ‘fair’ involving TR comes up. (Bastard probably chuckled to himself when he saw the thread was locked.)
Well, my work is complete on Natla Vs Zant. The thread has been locked. But because Negative Zero is so shockingly stupid, he’s actually gone and given me another thread to comment on and eventually ruin. It just makes me laugh that I annoy Negative SO much to the point that he would suggest this thread. He likes to pretend that I don’t bother him, but “Pissed? I HATE that worthless little shitbag” suggests otherwise.
So you admit you have absolutely nothing useful to add to this debate ladidala? This isn’t even about Lara anymore this just to see how much trouble he can stir. Not that there is a point to all that, he can say that it “amuses him”, but I am not sure how someone gets their jollies off on other people’s misfortune.
TheSorrow
- Useful? Nothing about this debate is useful, seeing as Negative Zero suggested it with the intent of being biased. Your point has now been rendered void and therefore not effective. Ha.
“Well, my work is complete on Natla Vs Zant. The thread has been locked. But because Negative Zero is so shockingly stupid, he’s actually gone and given me another thread to comment on and eventually ruin. It just makes me laugh that I annoy Negative SO much to the point that he would suggest this thread. He likes to pretend that I don’t bother him, but “Pissed? I HATE that worthless little shitbag” suggests otherwise.”
And so it begins.
“- Useful? Nothing about this debate is useful, seeing as Negative Zero suggested it with the intent of being biased. Your point has now been rendered void and therefore not effective. Ha.”
Biased huh? This is FAR more fair than if Lara had her guns. Now either add something that is relevant to this debate or we could ALL shut the hell up and let it die. Your choice.
Negative Zero
“And so it begins.”
- Well at least you’ve ditched the whole “you’re only a minor inconvenience” crap.
“Biased huh? This is FAR more fair than if Lara had her guns. Now either add something that is relevant to this debate or we could ALL shut the hell up and let it die. Your choice.”
- Didn’t you admit on this very page that you only suggested Link Vs Lara to be biased and end the Natla Vs Zant thread? “Yeah a little bit, but mostly to try and end the Natla vs Zant thread” you said. You suggested a match that you knew was pointless.
Now, if you’d like to give up and stop commenting, we can just leave it at that. But if you do… you’ll be admitting defeat.
Ah, who am I kidding. You just wouldn’t be able to bare that.
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I’l put a stop to this.
*takes thread outside*
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BANG
*click*
BANG
*walks back in*
None of you saw or heard anything. Got it? If anyone asks, I was shooting pigeons.
“But if you do… you’ll be admitting defeat.”
Based on your own twisted logic. You are just a mass of hollow victories, pestering people until they are fed up with your relentless ironic comments and claim that you “defeated them”.
“- Didn’t you admit on this very page that you only suggested Link Vs Lara to be biased and end the Natla Vs Zant thread? “Yeah a little bit, but mostly to try and end the Natla vs Zant thread” you said. You suggested a match that you knew was pointless.”
Yeah I’ll admit it may be a little bias toward Link but it’s still leaps and bounds more fair than if Lara had her guns. I gave them both the SAME weapons, the ONLY difference is that Link just happens to be better with said weapons. However you could do what you did in the Lara vs Xena thread and wank Lara’s martial arts skills. Then again, that wouldn’t work to good for a woman with sharp steel jabbed through her boobs now would it?
“Now, if you’d like to give up and stop commenting, we can just leave it at that. But if you do… you’ll be admitting defeat.
Ah, who am I kidding. You just wouldn’t be able to bare that.”
Admit defeat to WHAT?!? Link has CLEARLY been winning this. Somebody as smart as Lenny from Of Mice and Men could even point that out!!!
“Yeah I’ll admit it may be a little bias toward Link but it’s still leaps and bounds more fair than if Lara had her guns.”
It seems about equally unfair.
Sword and Shield
You gave her equipment she has shown no expertise In using, one of which she probably hasn’t even shown to use in canon. Against a highly trained swordsman. Link would have to make a big ass mistake for Lara to actually match him.
Gun scenario
He would have no way of getting close with just his sword and shield unless she was immobile or runs out of ammo.
“It seems about equally unfair.
Sword and Shield
You gave her equipment she has shown no expertise In using, one of which she probably hasn’t even shown to use in canon. Against a highly trained swordsman. Link would have to make a big ass mistake for Lara to actually match him.
Gun scenario
He would have no way of getting close with just his sword and shield unless she was immobile or runs out of ammo.”
Still, if Lara is so skilled in martial arts she could always drop the sword and shield and try to fight that way.
“Still, if Lara is so skilled in martial arts she could always drop the sword and shield and try to fight that way.”
Well……maybe…..nah. Fighting against an experienced sword user with a shield and a noticeable strength advantage, she’s pretty fucked.
*reads prior 10 comments*
So the shit storm has reached round three after Croft vs ZSS and Natla vs Zant were both locked from sheer idiocy. Hey admin, want to block this thread too already to save yourself some time? It’s just a waste of space on this site after-all.
“Hey admin, want to block this thread too already to save yourself some time?”
I’ll back this statement.
Also like to mention this match is still more fair than Lara vs Master Chief or Lara vs that anime guy.
Just write Spawn or Lobo into match, then make it a double stomp and let it collect dust. It’s first page and you’re OP.
Zant won his, so no need to prolongue this spite thread by spitballing potential scenarios. Link wins with swords, Lara wins with guns, then Link would win again if he got the purse. The two aren’t really equal enough characters for a real fight.
“Lara wins with guns”
Depends. If Link’s got one of his magical, indestructible, or otherwise bullet-proof shields, that’s a match he could still win – especially if he’s packing some of his ranged armament as well.
Yeah that’s what “the purse” means. Access to his purse of magical gear, then Link has advantage again
TheSorrow
- Think of it however you like. But really though, it might be better if you just stopped commenting. Because if you keep at it, you’re in no position to criticise me.
Negative Zero
“Yeah I’ll admit it may be a little bias toward Link but it’s still leaps and bounds more fair than if Lara had her guns. I gave them both the SAME weapons, the ONLY difference is that Link just happens to be better with said weapons. However you could do what you did in the Lara vs Xena thread and wank Lara’s martial arts skills. Then again, that wouldn’t work to good for a woman with sharp steel jabbed through her boobs now would it?”
- Exactly – you gave Lara a weapon that she has no real experience with. She’s only ever wielded Excalibur, which wasn’t even a regular sword like the one she’s got in this match. Link carries around a sword with him night and day, so of course it’s unfair.
“Admit defeat to WHAT?!? Link has CLEARLY been winning this. Somebody as smart as Lenny from Of Mice and Men could even point that out!!!”
- Well that’s funny, because I don’t think even Lenny would have been dumb enough to suggest this fight. It’s like me suggesting a pure fist fight between Lara and Link – Link would obviously get mashed.
“- Exactly – you gave Lara a weapon that she has no real experience with. She’s only ever wielded Excalibur, which wasn’t even a regular sword like the one she’s got in this match. Link carries around a sword with him night and day, so of course it’s unfair.”
She has USED a sword though right? Even then she could always try her martial arts. There’s no rule against dropping the weapons.
“It’s like me suggesting a pure fist fight between Lara and Link – Link would obviously get mashed.”
Just a fist fight? Link has superhuman strength.
www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=iw&v=0A2nyZghpCI
With strength like that, Link would only have to punch Lara 1 time to make her face unreconizable.
“Because if you keep at it, you’re in no position to criticise me.”
That was just oozing over with irony, but I am quite certain you realize that by now. You dug yourself a hole so deep you are content with just living down there. You know, since you criticize us and even American’s all the time. I’m sure the list is much longer than that, but why bother stressing the details?
In almost any even arguably remotely reasonable Link vs Croft match Link will be the victor.
Croft would require a significant advantage in equipment quality, and even then Link still has decent odds of winning.
Still, it’s really a moot point, since by the match stipulations, Link wins this match. End of story.
Know what? Fuck it. Three way match just because. A peak composite Croft vs a peak composite Link vs a non-composite John Taylor (latest incarnation, which is not peak).
Winner? John Taylor stomps.
Ugh
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Don’t feed the Parasprites.
Negative Zero
“She has USED a sword though right? Even then she could always try her martial arts. There’s no rule against dropping the weapons.”
- In her games, she has NEVER used a normal sword like the one she’d be using in this fight. She’s only ever used Excalibur, which isn’t a normal sword, and she NEVER had a sword fight with anyone. She just swung Excalibur at people.
And yes, she could use her martial arts – does Link know martial arts?
“Just a fist fight? Link has superhuman strength.”
- Oh, so he’s got superhuman strength as well now? So you’ve pitted someone with decent human strength up against someone you know has superhuman strength. Another reason why this match is pointless.
Is there an official source that verifies Link has superhuman strength? I’d just like to know if there is.
The Sorrow
- I can only thank you for proving my point. Like I said, if you keep going, you’re just as bad as me. Don’t be a hypocrite. I’m sure you see yourself as the voice of reason, but you’re a simple prick in reality.
Now comment back – go on, you know you want to.
Kytheros
“Winner? John Taylor stomps.”
- No one asked to hear about your gaming hero and personal idol. Shut it.
“I’m sure you see yourself as the voice of reason, but you’re a simple prick in reality.”
Not sure where you got that from, but whatever floats your boat. What is so prick-ish about putting a prick in his place? No one could blame me for that now can they?
Haha I think you have me mixed up with someone who has morals when it comes to breaking someone ladidala. See when I believe someone is wrong, I don’t care what their reasoning are, or what logic they try and throw my way. You are wrong, therefore you are nothing but trash in my eyes.
““Winner? John Taylor stomps.”
- No one asked to hear about your gaming hero and personal idol. Shut it.”
John Taylor is from the Nightside series by the author Simon R. Green. Read more books. You might learn something.
The real point behind my post was that the arguments going on are irrelevant as the match presented ends in Link win. Most Link vs Croft matches will end in a Link win.
Croft really isn’t all that good a combatant – she’s decent, probably better than the majority of humankind, but in the vast scheme of fictional characters (especially major characters), Croft really isn’t all that good at fighting, relatively speaking.