Here we have Final Fantasy favorite Sephiroth going up against Nightbringer from Warhammer 40K.
I have to confess that I don’t enough about either to even begin to make an argument for either side. However, I know we have enough WH40K fans to speak on Nightbringer, it’ll be interesting to if the same will be said for Sephiroth.
Who wins?
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Doesn’t the Nightbringer eat stars or something?
Little more impressive than just summoning meteors…
Ahh… The One winged angle strikes again!
Don’t know anithing about this nightbringer fellow, but I’ll post what I do know of Sephiroth.
Sephiroth can fly and maneuver freely, giving him great speed and mobility. His weapon is a massive katana that he wields with incredible speed, skill and strength. Due to his merging with the lifestream he is able to cast every spell in FF7 without need of the associated materia, giving him a wide veriaty of magical attacks including but not limited to temporal slow, stop and haste, death, polimorph, fire, ice, lightning, poison, acid, lifedrain, sismic and gravity based attack spells, magical and physical shields, silence, petrification and more.
Sephiroth has other attacks as well, including massive “blade beams” launched from his sword, heartless angel, supernova and more.
Feats for sephiroth include effortesly blocking a blow that cratered the steel structure he stood on, offhandedly delivering blows of similar or greater strength, cutting massive steel structures in half with an offhanded blow (and made it explode for some reason), launching a blade beam that cut cleanly through a massive cannon barrle over 10 meters wide, deflecting fireballs with his blade, being faster than people who effortesly deflect bullets with their swords, surviving being engulfed in a massive fireball and emerging unscathed without taking any noticable defensive measure, and raising a massive shield bubble thag withstood holy.
I think that about covers it.
While I don’t like to complain about matches being posted I will say this is a fucking terrible match up.
The nightbringer gorges on stars and destroys solar systems, nothing sephiroth has comes near to that. Here is an little snippet from the Necron codex.
“The Nightbringer is death incarnate, a sadistic god with the power to unmake the stars. It delights in inflicting pain and suffering not only to feed, but simply because it can. Its gaze is death and its mighty scythe has feasted on the deaths of civilizations. With a starship imbued with a measure of its power, the Nightbringer ha destroyed entire star systems on a whim and gorged itself on the death agonies of countless billions of lives.” Necron codex pg. 28
@Galorian
That’s alot of stuff and I will start believing it once you source it. I mean its not like it makes the outcome of the match any different but still.
This is as one-sided as any other stomp on this site.
Sephiroth’s powerful and all but…..being put against the Nightbringer? Really?
Isn’t it an incorporeal or at least basically indestructible demi-god/outright god? Sephiroth has no chance in hell at harming this thing if that’s so…
Should’ve thrown Seph against Kratos and the Nightbringer against some Marvel character of comparable power but that’s just me.
“However, I know we have enough WH40K fans”
What makes you say that?
Anyway this Nightbringer guy sounds redicuously powerful (or is he a weakling by 40K standards?). I’ll go with him I guess.
Also how does Sephiroth even fly with just 1 wing?
“Also how does Sephiroth even fly with just 1 with just 1 wing?”
Typical Japanese over the top physics?
“(or is he a weakling by 40K standards?). ”
As far as 40k ‘gods’ are concerned the Nightbringer is just about the weakest of them all (with the exception of the Deceiver, but the Deceiver can outwit the Nightbringer so he’d beat him anyway…)
“As though sensing his thoughts the Nightbringer slowly turned to face him, the yellow pits of its eyes burning his soul, boring into the core of what made him human. But Kasimir de Valtos had set himself to becoming an immortal god and utter single- mindedness filled his thoughts as a creature from the dawn of time swept its darkness around him.
‘Make me like you! I freed you. I demand immortality – it is my right!’ shrieked de Valtos as the Nightbringer lowered its gaze to his. He felt himself sucked into the creature’s eyes, the emptiness of its stare more terrifying than anything he could comprehend. He saw the dawn of the alien’s race, the things they had done, the misery and suffering they had inflicted upon the galaxy and the blink of an eye that was the race of man. He dropped to his knees as the sheer insignificance of his existence trembled before the unutterable vastness of the alien’s consciousness. The fragile threads that were the twisted remains of Kasimir de Valtos’s sanity shattered under such awful self-knowledge. This being had tamed stars and wiped entire civilisations from existence before the human race had even crawled from the soup of creation. What need had it of him?
‘Please…’ he begged, ‘I want to live forever!’ The Nightbringer closed its clawed hand over de Valtos’s head, the blackened fist com- pletely enclosing his skull. Kasimir shrieked in terror at its touch, his flesh sloughing from his bones as it fed on his life energies.” – Nightbringer, p.224
“Seventy thousand light years away, the star known to Imperial stellar cartographers as Cydo entered the final stages of its existence. It was a red giant of some ninety million kilometres diameter and had burned for over eight hundred million years. Had it not been for the billowing black shape floating impossibly in the star’s photosphere and draining the last of its massive energies, it would probably have continued to do so for perhaps another two thousand.
Normally, it generated energy at a colossal rate by burning hydrogen to helium in nuclear fusion reactions deep in its heart, but its core was no longer able to sustain the massive forces that burned within.
Powerful waves of electromagnetic energy and sprays of plasma formed into a rippling nimbus of coruscating light that washed from the star in pulsing waves. The Nightbringer fed and grew strong again in the depths of the dying star.” – Nightbringer, p.273
The Nightbringer’s physical body is also made of necrodermis if its worth mentioning….
@Soldier
But he shouldn’t be able to fly without constantly dipping to the side.
“As far as 40k ‘gods’ are concerned the Nightbringer is just about the weakest of them all”
Wow, I just guessed too.
“Wow, I just guessed too.”
It’s possible I’m wrong, I don’t know anything of the Eldar gods. But even just going off of the 4 remaining C’tan, the Void Dragon and Deceiver are both smarter than the Nightbringer (Void Dragon is also more powerful physically), and the Outsider is arguably the most powerful of the 4 (He devoured 75% of the other C’tan, or something along those lines), he’s also the size of a small planet, and is a raving lunatic with no lucidity to speak of.
“But he shouldn’t be able to fly without constantly dipping to the side.”
That’s with common sense but that’s why I said what I did back on Post #8. Think about it; take Bayonetta for an example. She headbutt a building sending it flying, shoots bullets through lava and she can toss a monster ten times her size over her shoulder before snapping it’s head off of it’s shoulders. Just like Sephiroth, she’s superhuman and superhumans don’t have to make any sense in what they do for the most part.
Over the top Japanese physics in it’s finest, bro. 8)
@Soldier
Well….yeah I guess…
LOL stomp match again. Factpile has been a little dry when it comes to good matches. Hopefully that turns around soon.
warhammer is so gay.. lol table top games hahahaha
WTF is Earl doing here? This isn;t a Dante match!
I don’t know where the spec for the VD and the Outsider came from, but I believe you.
“a raving lunatic with no lucidity to speak of.”
This is 40k. Thats a pretty common symptom.
“This is 40k. Thats a pretty common symptom.”
I meant even more so than usual.
(‘Cause all those other C’tan he ate are kinda still sentient inside him… and are pissed about being eaten…. lol)
(Wasn’t originally gunna comment on this…)
“I don’t know where the spec for the VD and the Outsider came from, but I believe you.”
The Void Dragon is the most technologically strong of the C’tan, and there is a picture in Codex: Necrons of the Outsider (and a bit that says the Laughing God tricked the Outsider into consuming 3/4 of its brethren, driving it insane because the C’tan he ate are ‘technically’ still alive inside him and his mind.)
Huh.
Well……I NEED TO SEE SOME SOURCES, IDENTIFICATION, AND YOUR PAPERS!
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I concure.
Badmatch is bad.
“Also how does Sephiroth even fly with just 1 wing?”
He flies without wings for 95% of his fight against Cloud. It’s more theatrics than anything else.
Anyway, I can’t think of anything for Sephiroth’s side. Even the theoretically more powerful Omega WEAPON (considering it’s ability to gorge itself on a planet) still pales in comparison.
I’m not sure Sephiroth would even go above the various tiers of Space Marines let alone touching 40k’s gods. Even Kuja (who can whimsically blow up a planet with the wave of his hand) is…yeah. I’ll just stop there.
“Even Kuja (who can whimsically blow up a planet with the wave of his hand) is…yeah. I’ll just stop there.”
You’re dying to get Kuja a match here badly, huh man?
A little bit, yeah. It’s just too damn difficult. Usually anything near his level (like a DBZ character) with energy projection is also well beyond his physical capabilities. Over heavy magic users as far as I’ve found are either way too weak or way too strong.
Why not match him against Loki? It was said by Silver Surfer(?) that Loki had enough power to ‘decimate a planet’ though that could just be hyperbole….
Ok is anyone else getting database errors every third time they try to access the site? It’s legitimately starting to piss me off since I had a nice long post typed up before it happened.
Anyway, “It’s possible I’m wrong, I don’t know anything of the Eldar gods. But even just going off of the 4 remaining C’tan, the Void Dragon and Deceiver are both smarter than the Nightbringer (Void Dragon is also more powerful physically), and the Outsider is arguably the most powerful of the 4 (He devoured 75% of the other C’tan, or something along those lines), he’s also the size of a small planet, and is a raving lunatic with no lucidity to speak of.”
All but 2 Eldar gods are dead. The laughing god of the Harlequins is kinda like the deceiver. Khaine is currently shattered into hundreds/thousands of shards which are now the Avatars of Khaine. In his prime though, he took on the Nightbringer and won. Asuryan, king of the gods, once rearranged the stars to make a constellation of ill omen for the Nightbringer (don’t think too hard about this) and then owned him with solar flares.
Also, I thought it was the Nightbringer that ate the rest of the C’tan? My Necron codex at least (pg 28) says the Deceiver convinced the Nightbringer to eat the rest of the C’tan and he did so until only 4 remained. Thematically, he’s a lot like Galactus, except more evil and far less powerful. Still, he’s way above Sephy’s league.
“Also how does Sephiroth even fly with just 1 wing?”
Youtube the crisis core training room cutscene. Sephiroth, Angeal, and Genesis can fly perfectly fine without wings. The wings are just there for symbolism/to look cool. Flying without explanation is one of those standard Japanese powers along with supersonic speed (for the most part, almost every anime character except the Naruto ones are at least supersonic).
“LOL stomp match again. Factpile has been a little dry when it comes to good matches. Hopefully that turns around soon.”
Seriously.
OZ vs Britannia was a fairly good match-up and my tassadar & zeratul vs sidius & vader was fun, if somewhat of a stomp.
Good matches don’t show up every day, but they do show up.
I agree that this one is fairly terrible though…
“Ok is anyone else getting database errors every third time they try to access the site? It’s legitimately starting to piss me off since I had a nice long post typed up before it happened.”
It’s been like that for several months… (important to copy a long post before submitting it…)
“All but 2 Eldar gods are dead. The laughing god of the Harlequins is kinda like the deceiver. Khaine is currently shattered into hundreds/thousands of shards which are now the Avatars of Khaine.”
Then ‘technically’ speaking, Khaine is the weakest 40k god currently I suppose, as Avatars tend to get beaten by quite a few things….
“Also, I thought it was the Nightbringer that ate the rest of the C’tan?”
The Codex says many of the other C’tan followed the Nightbringer’s example and began eating their fellows as well, so while he out-ate the rest of them, he didn’t really eat all of them. (The bit on the Outsider eating other C’tan is on pg. 25, not sure where I got the numbers from, but if the Outsider eating other C’tan thanks to the Laughing God was such a special event it probably happened before the Deceiver tricked the Nightbringer (also keeping in mind the only other C’tan that survived the Nightbringer’s onslaught were the ones he couldn’t beat, for various reasons…) my necron player freind is a bit more intimate with the necron ‘dex than I am though so something he said is probably trying to worm its way into my words…)
“I agree that this one is fairly terrible though…”
Who suggested this one anyway? I hope one of my matches gets posted eventually (however few in number they may be (though I hope my first suggestion never gets posted… in fact lets just forget it even exists….))
Here…
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“It was silent as the void, and to look upon it was to know terror. It drifted above us with slow, liquid grace, and its gaze caused madness and despair wherever it fell. Those it came near took their own lives rather than endure its hellish presence.
Morillia q, Halequin Shadowseer.” Codex: Necrons (3.5e), p.25 – The Beginning of Time: The Outsider
“Scraps of information gleaned from the infinity circuits of Eldar craftworlds hint at a great war for ascendancy between the C’Tan. The nomadic Harlequins have a legend, recounted barely once every century, about the lunacy of the Outsider. They tell the tale of when the Laughing God tricked the Outsider into eating its brothers; the C’Tan’s unceasing thirst for ascendancy ensured success. But fragments of its victims lingered, twisting like shards of glass within its essence, slowly but steadily driving it insane and forcing it into exile. The mocking amusement of the Laughing God earned it the eternal enmity of the Outsider, and the Harlequins whisper that one dark night it shall return.” Codex: Necrons (3.5e), p.25 – The Beginning of Time: The Outsider
“Ultimately, the Nightbringer was undone when the Deceiver convinced it that the most succulent feasts were to be had in the living energies of its fellow C’Tan. So began a reign of murder as the Nightbringer brought all its powers to bear in hunting down and consuming its fellow gods. As the C’Tan fought among themselves, other followed the Nightbringer’s example and fed upon one another, but none could match the scale of its slaughter.
When the Old Ones struck back, the Nightbringer had feasted upon the C’Tan until only four remained.” Codex: Necrons (3.5e), p.28 – The Nightbringer: An Age of Slaughter
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It bears to note that while those may seem initially conflicting, there is nothing to suggest that the Laughing God and the Deceiver are not one and the same.
Just saying.
“It bears to note that while those may seem initially conflicting, there is nothing to suggest that the Laughing God and the Deceiver are not one and the same.”
They do bear quite a few similarities.
Also note how the Outsider’s quote doesn’t state that he was the first, or the last. Just that like the Nightbringer, he was tricked into eating them.
Void Dragon MAY be Omnisiah, and Laughing God MAY be Deceiver. Nothing wrong with that.
Wouldn’t call him the weakest of the Gods- he planted the fear of death in every race in the 40k Universe- that’s some serious power. The image of the Grim Reaper that’s haunted mankind since its inception IS the Nightbringer. I would say the Laughing God is the weakest “God”- but considering the Eldar deity is supremely genius when it comes to hide and seek I guess it evens out.
On topic, a bit pointless. I remember Final Fantasy Seven, and the utter fear when I came to fight almighty Sephiroth- but this is a stomp. You have a guy (powerful as he is- I know next to nothing about the series) against Death Incarnate (official title). I know enough to know a massacre when I see one.
Well the Eldar god Isha is still alive (or another female one) is still alive in Nurgles chambers, its where he tests his concoctions…
And i would comment on how (i’ve heard, have to verify it) apparently when a C’tan has it’s Necrodermis breached it shoots out solar flares, or that it will come back in another body. But there is no need as this match is super one-sided.
So the Nightbringer is the personification of Death
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means Donald Duck already insult the Strongest of the C’tan and Survive
Not as one-sided as Master Chief vs Nightbringer, but pretty bat anyway. C’tan eat star systems, so I think the Nightbringer is at a bit of an advantage here.
So in layman’s terms An EPIC swordsman verses the combination of Death and Galactimus. Of course the Nightbringer is going to win.
It seems as if many people have come to the conclusion that the NB has taken this battle. But I just have to fix something for the record.
@The_Assassin711:
The Void Dragon is reputably the strongest of all of the C’tan, not the Outsider. The outsider is the most insane (relatively speaking), as it feasted on the most of its brethren, and the consciousnesses of those C’tan were said to remain in him and help aid him in being driven more insane. Apparently, the only thing the Outsider really has, above all of the rest of the remaining C’tan, is a greatly elevated affinity for torture, causing insanity, and instilling terror (much like NB).
ref. Lexicanum (which took from the Necron Codex)
“It also had a hellish presence, and it caused madness in all who came close and many killed themselves rather than having to face the Outsider.” & “The Lord of Insanity” (Lexicanum)
Just felt I needed to set records straight.
So how powerful is the Nightbringer?