Spawn & The Redeemer Vs Horus & Angron

Spawn & The Redeemer Vs Horus and Angron

Suggested by Soldier’s Shadow

This fight marks the debut of two characters on FactPile. First up is Spawn and The Redeemer going against Warhammer 40k‘s Horus and Angron.

Two characters from the Image Verse going up against two powerhouses from likes of Warhammer 40K.

Al Simmons is the Spawn incarnation in the fight, not Jim Downing.

Who wins?

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63 Comments on "Spawn & The Redeemer Vs Horus & Angron"

  1. Sparks May 7, 2011 at 9:02 am -      #1

    Peak Spawn (if this is him) is way up there on the scales of “do whatever the hell he wants to do”

    What does team two got going for them, are they just badass fighters like Kharne or do they got weird psycho abilities?

  2. NemoVonUtopia May 7, 2011 at 9:30 am -      #2

    Horus was the one that “killed” the Emporer, albeit the Emporer was reluctant to kill him so he wasn’t going full power.

    Angron is like Kharn, but a primarch. He is actually Kharn’s boss. Is he a daemon prince here?

  3. Sparks May 7, 2011 at 9:38 am -      #3

    Oh I thought they were only some big weapon toters, I don’t know what a primarch is or what a daemon prince can do, so I’ll just sit out like I do most WH-heavy matches

  4. NemoVonUtopia May 7, 2011 at 10:24 am -      #4

    Primarches are super-space marines, they make them look like children.

  5. raider1987 May 7, 2011 at 10:24 am -      #5

    Horus and Angron are Primarchs. God like beings, it is from samples of their DNA injected into normal humans that creates Space Marines. Kharn who gets way too much fan love on here, was just a normal guy, modified and given a sliver of the power that existed in Angron.

    At the height of his power Horus was one of the most powerful beings ever to existed. If you have read anything about 40k and know the kind of unbeatable god like beings that exist in it, Horus at his height was the worst of the worst, his power tore the imperium in half, and he tore the emperor to shreds right after killing the Blood angel Primarch before he was finally defeated.

    Angron is now thousands of years old, and not only being a Primarch, he has now ascended to become a deamon prince, completely transcending his corporal form so he can never be truly destroyed. Angron can manifest himself in our reality, as far as I am aware he has done this once, the event is known as the first War for Armageddon. He slaughtered hundreds of millions and decimated the planet before his corporeal for was destroyed by the grey knights (who were killed to the last man).

    Spawn is a badass, at full power he would be almost certainly a very powerful character in any universe. But 40k has things that exist in it that can never be defeated by anything less than a god. The very nature of 40k is that there is an endless war that can never be won.

  6. Fire grot tim May 7, 2011 at 10:50 am -      #6

    Wow this is a good one…..is angron in his daemon prince form?

  7. midnite marauder May 7, 2011 at 11:33 am -      #7

    Yeah this one is going to be a stomp. Spawn alone outclasses them in power. The Redeemer is just overkill having power powers specifically designed to deal with guys like Angron and Horus.

  8. Axalon May 7, 2011 at 11:49 am -      #8

    “Horus at his height was the worst of the worst, his power tore the imperium in half, and he tore the emperor to shreds right after killing the Blood angel Primarch before he was finally defeated. ”

    To be fair, the God-Emperor was only “killed” because he was suffering from a severe bout of PIS/CIS that prevented him from just mind-blasting Horus and his twisted little soul from the get-go.

  9. lancer_AR May 7, 2011 at 1:04 pm -      #9

    spawn can only be killed by a weapon from the heavens (as to weather or not this counts towards the wh40k gods idk but I doubt it) and I don’t know enough about the redeemer but I know he’s heaven’s version of spawn

  10. Asger May 7, 2011 at 2:19 pm -      #10

    Spawn on his own is absurdly powerful. Pairing him up with the Redeemer, his near-equal in terms of power, who’s practically built to destroy the unclean denizens of 40k is makes thing pretty damn hard for the other two.

  11. itcheyness May 7, 2011 at 2:26 pm -      #11

    Horus and Angron get stomped since neither have a weapon capable of killing Spawn.

    The only fight here is the one between Spawn and the Redeemer for who gets to kill who.

  12. Soldier's Shadow May 7, 2011 at 2:51 pm -      #12

    @Asger

    Not that I disagree with you on this but is The Redeemer really that high up their with Spawn at his peak? I know he’s like his equivalent normally but that high?

    Does anyone have any feats of power for the 40K duo? Anything aside from titles saying they’re uberly powerful?

  13. CIDE May 7, 2011 at 3:56 pm -      #13

    I don’t think I can actually watch this fight..

    Blegh.

  14. chuckforest May 7, 2011 at 4:01 pm -      #14

    Does Horus and Angron get to re-spawn or do they lose if their corporeal form dies?

    @Raider actually only ten Grey Knights made it away alive after they sent in (1 or 3 can’t remember) companies of Grey Knight terminators.

  15. Asger May 7, 2011 at 4:05 pm -      #15

    We’re using Spawn at his peak? Ah, well, peak Spawn was bordering on universal/multiversal power.Regular Spawn and Redeemer are near equal though.

  16. Commander Cross May 7, 2011 at 7:01 pm -      #16

    @Chuck

    Ouch, that got a number on the Grey Knights, didn’t it?
    Why not send in Guts from Berserk to take care of Angron, if anyone want to suggest another vs fight with the guy?(Which i am trying to do, against Thor!)

  17. Soldier's Shadow May 7, 2011 at 8:03 pm -      #17

    “Does Horus and Angron get to re-spawn or do they lose if their corporeal form dies?”

    Well if they get hit by necroplasm that’d eliminate their their soul so wouldn’t that eliminate both forms simulateneously?

    @Asger

    For the sake of a debate, we’re using Al Simmons’ Spawn at the Legion level when he housed 3000+ souls to avoid rape-stomp with Omega Spawn.

  18. chuckforest May 7, 2011 at 8:46 pm -      #18

    Well the only way in 40k (which has soul rapers) to permanently destroy a daemon is for the patron gods re-absorb the essence of the daemon. Or you know, be the Emperor which allegedly destroyed Horus soul.

  19. lancer_AR May 7, 2011 at 8:57 pm -      #19

    @ chuck

    not really relevant but I lol’d a bit when I read soul raper (I have a very corrupted mind)

  20. Soldier's Shadow May 7, 2011 at 9:00 pm -      #20

    @chuck

    One death is an auto-loss here on Factpile except in the case of regernators like Alucard and Wolverine.

  21. itcheyness May 7, 2011 at 9:01 pm -      #21

    Eisenhorn managed to destroy Prophaniti and he’s not exactly the most powerful being in 40K.

  22. raider1987 May 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm -      #22

    Prophaniti was just a deamon host. A weak Deamon bound to a mortal form so it could exist in this reality. A Deamon Prince like Angron is an entirely different ball game. Deamon Princes and Greater Deamons are capable of destroying worlds, and although you may be able to destroy their corporeal form killing them is an entirely different ball game.

    As far as I am aware there have only been a few instances when a Deamon Primarch has entered our reality, Greater Deamons of roughly the same amount of power are just as rare. If you have read eisenhorn have you read Ravenor, a Deamon of great power comes into existence at the end of the book, should give you an idea. Also, I have an advanced copy of The Battle of the Fang, the Deamon Primarch Magnus the Red shows up in it, he is pretty much a god.

  23. I-speak-braille May 8, 2011 at 12:03 am -      #23

    In 40k, daemons eat souls for snacks (the lesser ones). Destroying a soul is nothing to even the weakest of daemons. Angron is up there with high level bloodthirsters. What does that imply about the effectiveness soul burning weapons will have on him?

    Horus likewise is supposedly possessed by all 4 of the chaos gods (possessed or simply borrowing energy with their permission).

  24. Soldier's Shadow May 8, 2011 at 12:08 am -      #24

    Well then, any kind of strength feats that can match-up to Spawn’s or even to obliteration via firepower, hellfire, demonic chains, etc? How about reactions that go against Spawn’s lightspeed reaction time?

  25. chuckforest May 8, 2011 at 12:37 am -      #25

    Well in some battles on FP we let them come back unless the OP says it’s disallowed.

    SS are you disallowing re-spawns?

    And Angron and some others are chillin in the Eye of Terror.

  26. Soldier's Shadow May 8, 2011 at 12:51 am -      #26

    No respawns, just a fight to the death.

  27. chuckforest May 8, 2011 at 12:54 am -      #27

    Me thinks that the 40k side is going to use. Spawn wouldn’t happen to be vulnerable to mind raping would he?

    Otherwise unless this takes place in the Warp Spawn and Redeemer are probably going to win.

  28. chuckforest May 8, 2011 at 12:56 am -      #28

    *lose not use…

  29. Soldier's Shadow May 8, 2011 at 1:20 am -      #29

    “Me thinks that the 40k side is going to use. Spawn wouldn’t happen to be vulnerable to mind raping would he?”

    I’m gonna have to look into that. I believe that there was at least an instance or two where he encountered it before…

  30. Axalon May 8, 2011 at 4:16 am -      #30

    “Deamon Princes and Greater Deamons are capable of destroying worlds, and although you may be able to destroy their corporeal form killing them is an entirely different ball game. ”

    Yet despite this Angron was stopped by 100 Grey Knight Terminators and cast back into the Warp in the First War for Armageddon, which is pretty much a “kill” where these guys are concerned.

    “the Deamon Primarch Magnus the Red shows up in it, he is pretty much a god.”

    Was also defeated by Great Wolf Harek Ironhelm who, though he lost his life, inflicted such terrible wounds upon the Daemon Primarch that Magnus was forced to retreat. Ironhelm was just a Space Marine. The chapter master yes, but still a Space Marine.

    Spawn should be able to take them down with ease.

  31. chuckforest May 8, 2011 at 2:48 pm -      #31

    Do you know how uber Grey Knights are? Let alone terminators?

    Chapter masters aren’t pushovers either.

    An if I knew anything about Spawn past the movie I would say, but he was defeated by x so he must be weaker.

    It doesn’t do well to compare by what defeated them. Or we could say that Master Chief defeated the Covenant so a space marine could.

  32. Axalon May 8, 2011 at 3:37 pm -      #32

    “Do you know how uber Grey Knights are? Let alone terminators?”

    Yup. Still not on Spawn’s level.

    “Chapter masters aren’t pushovers either.”

    Never said they were. However, they still aren’t on a Primarch’s level. Well, most of them at any rate. Dante’s pretty much the top of the totem pole, what with slicing Skarbrand, the Bloodthirster that actually put a dent in Khorne’s armor, in half.

    www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=&pIndex=1&aId=8000041a&start=2&_requestid=809914

    But despite being Primarchs, in fact, Chaos-imbued Daemon Primarchs now, they were still defeated.

    “It doesn’t do well to compare by what defeated them.”

    It does when the new opponent is superior by leaps and bounds in practically every category. Like Spawn. Nevermind the Redeemer who is also in the fight.

    “Or we could say that Master Chief defeated the Covenant so a space marine could.”

    Couldn’t he? If he were placed in the exact same battles as the Chief, from Combat Evolved through Halo 3, what evidence suggests that a Space Marine would fail where a SPARTAN-II didn’t?

    I know where you’re going with the argument, and I see the point you’re making. Perhaps a bad analogy though.

    Completely off-topic, and I don’t know how official it is, but found this cool picture of the Chief entering Earth’s orbit, the real way.

    images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100111075723/halo/images/thumb/5/52/S117returnstoEarth2552.jpg/830px-S117returnstoEarth2552.jpg

  33. Axalon May 8, 2011 at 3:41 pm -      #33

    “entering Earth’s orbit,”

    Meant Earth’s atmosphere.**

  34. chuckforest May 8, 2011 at 4:24 pm -      #34

    I have that pic on my wall that came in a calendar.

    But yeah I can’t see them winning against Spawn unless he is vulnerable to mind rape.

  35. w00tm0ng3r May 9, 2011 at 12:28 am -      #35

    “But 40k has things that exist in it that can never be defeated by anything less than a god.”

    Then it’s a good thing Spawn has bitchslapped God and Satan into another universe isn’t it?

    “Do you know how uber Grey Knights are? Let alone terminators?”

    Compared to Spawn, who moves and reacts faster than light, outpowers God and Satan, and wields power on a universal scale, they’re about as insignificant as the bacteria I killed when I first hit the “c” key at the beginning of this sentence. Like shit man I didn’t even realize they were there…

    Seriously, this is a bad match. Neither Horus nor Angron have light speed reactions, so this match ends in microseconds when Spawn and Redeemer each pick a target and decapitate him before the light bouncing off them reaches the primarchs’ eyes. They literally won’t see it coming because Spawn’s axe will reach them before the light does.

  36. Thousandth Son May 9, 2011 at 3:04 pm -      #36

    “They literally won’t see it coming because Spawn’s axe will reach them before the light does.”

    That may be true but daemons have never exactly adhered to the laws of physics.
    Still, all information gathered on the combatants, I think this is a stomp on the part of Spawn and his friend.

  37. JoeRCE3 May 12, 2011 at 6:26 pm -      #37

    Common guys Horus and angron get this win with ease, warhammer 40k stomps all over spwn and the redeemer. unless as said above, spawns axe will reach them before light does. But will spawns axe even affect Horus or angron vastly??

  38. w00tm0ng3r May 12, 2011 at 9:24 pm -      #38

    “Common guys Horus and angron get this win with ease, warhammer 40k stomps all over spwn and the redeemer. unless as said above, spawns axe will reach them before light does. But will spawns axe even affect Horus or angron vastly??”

    Spawn weighs 450 pounds (204.5 kg) without his axe. Traveling at the speed of light, the simple act of colliding with Horus or Angron unleashes 2.2 gigatons of kinetic energy, about a thousand times more than is necessary to one shot an Imperator titan. This is just Spawn running into the guy. If he were to actually swing the axe, you can expect it to be far more powerful. Spawn is also of course, far faster than “just” light speed, which in and of itself wins him the match.

    Think about it, when’s the last time you lost a swordfight with a statue? The only way Spawn can be parried or blocked by someone who, from his perspective isn’t even moving, is if he deliberately swings at Horus/Angron’s weapon. The only way he can be hit by an apparently stationary object is if he runs onto their swords like a suicidal Roman.

    Add to that the fact that Horus was killed by a psychic attack “more destructive than an exploding sun”, which we can take to mean it wasn’t too many orders of magnitude above supernova level or they would have said something along the lines of “destructive enough to wipe out a star cluster/galactic sector/galaxy”, and that Spawn has near universal power, and the primarchs are screwed. 40k is powerful, but comics are retardedly overpowered.

  39. jodarius May 12, 2011 at 10:48 pm -      #39

    Did he move at light speed and harness universal power at as Al Simons at Legion level? As that is his power level for the fight. Also remember as the favored of the 4 Horus had the powers granted by all 4 and one, tzeentch, has time warping abilities, which may allow him to slow the battle down for him and Angron.

    Also i thought spawn was vulnerable to decapitation at the level for this battle, not just heaven forged blades. And the two daemon primarchs are wielding chaos infused weapons.

    Then you discount the fact that all primarchs are psychers, and Horus was foremost of them in his enhanced form. If he could get into the two’s head he could scramble their brains. You discount the magic the chaos gods bestow on their favored, and as their most favored Horus would have lavished in them all. It took the Emperor, a god, using a psychic blast so powerful it nearly killed him, to end Horus.

    Horus did beat god and satan, but was it at the power level stated for the fight?

  40. w00tm0ng3r May 13, 2011 at 1:31 am -      #40

    Ah must’ve missed the legion level part. I don’t actually read Spawn so I have no idea what Legion level even is or what he can do at that level. I just know he would rape stomp both primarchs at either the God Spawn level (very aptly named) or the Omega Spawn level (even more powerful).

  41. sam the heretic May 14, 2011 at 6:34 am -      #41

    Question:

    Angron is a servant of Khorne, yeah? Meaning he has the same magic nullifier that all the Blood God’s servants get, yeah? And Horus was blessed by ALL the Chaos Gods, yeah? Meaning that Horus has abilities similar to/greater than all the Greater Daemons of each of the Gods. Tzeentch’s magical ability and foresight, Khornes Beserker strength and magic nuller etc.

    Aren’t all of Spawn’s powers magical in Nature since they aren’t like X-men/spiderman mutation or inherent like superman? Meaning as soon as he comes within range of either combantant , his abilities go poof, just like what happens to psykers when they come into contact with “blanks”; ALL their powers don’t work.

    So no matter how fast Spawn is, as soon as he gets close to either primarch, poof goes his speed, strength and abilities and before HE can see wtf just happened, blam!

  42. sam the heretic May 14, 2011 at 6:37 am -      #42

    @Jordais

    Exactly…

  43. Jwlynas May 14, 2011 at 7:45 am -      #43

    Oh lord, are we having the “Spawns powers can be nullified by Khornate Blessings” discussion again?

    As it is, for whatever reason, Angron doesn’t seem t have the same nullifying effects that Kharn does. He doesn’t even have a “Collar of Khorne”, a lesser magic nullifyer, as far as I know. Canonwise, he’s potentially an incredibly powerful psyker (All primarchs are), but to what degree this manifests or how effective he is at pretty much anything other than ambushing Adeptus Astares in darkened tunnels or surviving castle walls landing on his head, we can only guess.

  44. Axalon May 14, 2011 at 7:51 am -      #44

    “Meaning that Horus has abilities similar to/greater than all the Greater Daemons of each of the Gods. Tzeentch’s magical ability and foresight, Khornes Beserker strength and magic nuller etc. ”

    Ehhh. Not sure about Beserker strength and all, since he was at a complete draw against a normal Primarch, Sanguinius, until he used psychic energy to kill him where armed combat failed.

    “Aren’t all of Spawn’s powers magical in Nature since they aren’t like X-men/spiderman mutation or inherent like superman?”

    I thought it was the necroplasm that Spawn is made out of with accompanying necroplasmic symbiote that granted him all of his physical attributes, as well as all of his magical powers. So even if his magic is somehow nullified, he still has all the raw physical power and speed needed to win, as its generated by his own body.

  45. w00tm0ng3r May 14, 2011 at 8:19 am -      #45

    “Angron is a servant of Khorne, yeah? Meaning he has the same magic nullifier that all the Blood God’s servants get, yeah? And Horus was blessed by ALL the Chaos Gods, yeah? Meaning that Horus has abilities similar to/greater than all the Greater Daemons of each of the Gods. Tzeentch’s magical ability and foresight, Khornes Beserker strength and magic nuller etc. ”

    Nope the fluff would indicate otherwise. The Grey Knight’s force halberds, blessed ammo, and all kinds of psychic ammo they use aren’t just effective against Khornate daemons (and daemons in general), they’re SUPER effective. On page 53 of the 5th edition Space Wolves Codex, Njal Stormcaller psychically blasts apart a bloodthirster. Angron himself was banished by 100 Grey Knight terminators armed to the teeth with psychic powers and gear. Most notably, Horus himself was one shotted at the peak of his power by a psychic attack around the supernova level. Really guys, you should know better than to try to claim that Horus has any kind of all powerful anti-magic shield given that his battle against the Emperor was such a critical piece of fluff. I expect any 40k fan to be familiar with it, and to know that Horus is in fact quite vulnerable to the kind of magic high level comics characters toss around. Supernova level attacks wouldn’t even tickle the likes of Thor or Phoenix, and a lot of these guys can hand out galaxy busters like candy on Halloween.

    I’m not the world’s greatest expert on the Blessing of Khorne, but Mata who knows much more than me seems to be of the opinion that it only effects psychic powers directed at Kharn. For example, the psychic energies channeled through a force weapon are allowed to turn it into a power weapon equivalent, but not to psychically attack Kharn. This means Spawn is allowed to buff himself with magic. Furthermore, at least in the case of Horus, a powerful enough attack will break through any blessings he has and roflstomp him anyway. The issue at hand is whether or not legion Spawn can conjure such an attack, and that’s where we need Darkblade or someone else who knows about Spawn to come in and tell us.

    @Jodarius, you bring up potentially good points against a weaker Spawn, but against God or Omega Spawn they’re all moot. The higher Spawns can stop time too, and Horus isn’t going to have enough time to do any of that stuff if the Spawn we’re using is FTL. The only problem is, well, I don’t know if legion Spawn is FTL or not…

  46. sam the heretic May 14, 2011 at 5:47 pm -      #46

    Dammit…arg, no matter, traitor scum deserve no less. Kick their ass for the Red Angel, Spawn! Give ‘em hell!

  47. Jwlynas May 14, 2011 at 6:14 pm -      #47

    In fairness, there’s “Magic resistance”, and then there’s trying to tank the single most powerful psychic blast that has ever been seen. Its also a little ambiguous as to whether the GEOM beat the full power of the Chaos Gods imbued within his favoured son, or whether or not they abandoned Horus at the vital moment.-

    Being physically matched to Sanguinus is no small feat, this is a guy who broke one of the most powerful Bloodthirsters over his knee, and whose chapter is as close to a Loyalist World Eaters as is possible (Frankly, they’re more bloodthirsty than their chaos counterparts)

    Without psyker abilities, this is a stomp. Even with them it’d be an uphill battle, but at least there would be a chance. Whaat we need now is any evidence Horus (or Angron) has anything resembling psychic might.,

  48. sam the heretic May 14, 2011 at 9:51 pm -      #48

    I’m currently reading the Horus Heresy series and frankly, besides Magnus, all the other Primarchs aren’t active psykers. In, “A Thousand Sons”, Leman Russ is said to be able to withstand a duel with a biomancer Thousand Son Marine who was able to literally and repeatedly disintergrate Space Wolves with a mere thought.

    I’ll post the exact specifics/quotations later today

  49. RandumDude July 28, 2011 at 11:49 pm -      #49

    i think the Spawns take the cake, i mean, their not human, n, well nvm im not goin into info,
    Short= Spawn (angel n demon)WIN!

  50. HD-Spartan November 8, 2011 at 3:24 pm -      #50

    PRIMARCHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. tugboat45 November 17, 2011 at 6:14 am -      #51

    terminator armor is the strongest stuff in the galaxy and these two are primarchs, cmon horus started the fall of man and angron is the only living person who can best kharn in close other than khorne himself. So really if spawn or redeemer got close theyd lose in two seconds

  52. tau43 November 18, 2011 at 9:53 pm -      #52

    O how the Manliness will fly. With THE Spawn of Hell and the Redeemer verses Horus The First Warmaster only brought down by a Daemon Prince with a poison blade made to kill him, and Angron Daemon Prince that can kill The Hulk with a flick of his finger.

  53. Soldier's Shadow November 18, 2011 at 10:18 pm -      #53

    “terminator armor is the strongest stuff in the galaxy and these two are primarchs, cmon horus started the fall of man and angron is the only living person who can best kharn in close other than khorne himself. So really if spawn or redeemer got close theyd lose in two seconds”

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    Strongest in their own universe perhaps but it may not be the same within the Image verse. Spawn and the Redeemer would rape Kharn up close being FTL in reactions and massively stronger.

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    “O how the Manliness will fly. With THE Spawn of Hell and the Redeemer verses Horus The First Warmaster only brought down by a Daemon Prince with a poison blade made to kill him, and Angron Daemon Prince that can kill The Hulk with a flick of his finger.”

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    Angron kill the Hulk in a flick of his finger…? While that match is epic, Hulk wins once he reaches higher levels of strength such as Green Scar.

  54. tau43 November 25, 2011 at 5:55 pm -      #54

    Angron was raised as a arena fighter I doubt he’d let the Hulk live long enough to reach the Green Scar. and in False Gods Angron had a fortress’s wall fall on him after it was destroyed by seismic charges, and he not only lived but in his rage batted astartes aside like dolls and started to kill the surrender party from the fortress.

  55. tau43 November 25, 2011 at 6:22 pm -      #55

    And are we using Pre or Post-Heresy Angron? Because there is a rather large difference between the two. This is post-Heresy
    wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/6/6a/Daemon_Prince_Angron_by_Alex_Boyd.jpg

  56. midnite marauder November 25, 2011 at 6:28 pm -      #56

    “Angron was raised as a arena fighter I doubt he’d let the Hulk live long enough to reach the Green Scar. and in False Gods Angron had a fortress’s wall fall on him after it was destroyed by seismic charges, and he not only lived but in his rage batted astartes aside like dolls and started to kill the surrender party from the fortress.”
    -
    No. Hulk’s skin has taken direct hits from thermonuclear weapons.
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    “And are we using Pre or Post-Heresy Angron? Because there is a rather large difference between the two. This is post-Heresy”
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    It really doesn’t matter.

  57. tau43 November 25, 2011 at 6:39 pm -      #57

    It really doesn’t matter.
    Yes, it does. one’s a Primarch, the other is a Primarch and a Daemon Prince of Khorne that can tear a Rhino in half, and it took a battle force of 100 Grey Knights terminators that only had only 12 survivors to banish him to to the Warp at Armageddon 1. So there’s really large difference.

  58. tau43 November 25, 2011 at 7:02 pm -      #58

    And if only Heavenly weapons can kill Spawn what about extradimensional weapons that don’t apply to this reality’s rules and limits?

  59. midnite marauder November 25, 2011 at 10:52 pm -      #59

    “It really doesn’t matter.
    Yes, it does. one’s a Primarch, the other is a Primarch and a Daemon Prince of Khorne that can tear a Rhino in half, and it took a battle force of 100 Grey Knights terminators that only had only 12 survivors to banish him to to the Warp at Armageddon 1. So there’s really large difference.”
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    Spawn is
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    FTL
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    Infinitely Stronger
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    Can fly
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    Teleportation and can teleport inside his body and rip his way out
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    How exactly can Angron compete with two being that move so fast it will be as if he is a statue while beating him to death with a fucking building all before the light even touches his eyeballs. And that’s at his weakest state. His strongest state he’s a planet destroyer. And that’s just Spawn. Redeemer on the other hand is Spawn’s equivalent but God’s version.
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    ” And if only Heavenly weapons can kill Spawn what about extradimensional weapons that don’t apply to this reality’s rules and limits?”
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    Spawn can come back indefinitely as long as there is evil for him to feed off of. He’s been incinerated and reduced to mush. But all that is moot since Angron can’t even touch Spawn.

  60. tau43 November 25, 2011 at 11:14 pm -      #60

    @Rider
    -A Daemon Prince can move in and out of the Warp at will, so no need to fly when he can teleport
    - And use it contort the space around him so that obey his rules and his rules might be tear anything that gets close to shreds.
    -And can have a Daemonic retinue of some sort at his beckon call.
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    Spawn can come back indefinitely as long as there is evil for him to feed off of. He’s been incinerated and reduced to mush.
    -I read a couple of the comics, they were like an accident, Horrible,yet couldn’t stop reading them. Can he be escape the Psychic Hell that is The Warp?
    Or come back after having his body consumed and his essence absorbed? Because that’s what happens when Princes kill a worthy adversary. They drink they’re essence.

  61. midnite marauder November 26, 2011 at 11:33 pm -      #61

    Tau Spawn and The Redeemer move faster then the speed of light. Once a character moves at that speed it no longer really matters what the opposition can do if they too can not move at that speed. Spawn can literally kill both of them before the next light beam hits their eyes allowing them to see by simply running into them.

  62. Soldier's Shadow November 26, 2011 at 11:38 pm -      #62

    “-I read a couple of the comics, they were like an accident, Horrible,yet couldn’t stop reading them. Can he be escape the Psychic Hell that is The Warp?”

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    Spawn can freely teleport between dimensions, it’s how he traverses between Heaven, Hell and Earth.

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    “Or come back after having his body consumed and his essence absorbed? Because that’s what happens when Princes kill a worthy adversary. They drink they’re essence.”

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    If they can even hit him, which is highly unlikely, that MAY be a problem but being that they react at FTL with Spawn teleporting at lightspeed, it’s not going to happen while Spawn and Redeemer pummel Horus and Angron into paste.

  63. Commander Cross December 4, 2011 at 6:41 pm -      #63

    Now when will someone bring us Spawn vs either Doombreeder or Khorne, already?(the latter with both sides being allowed to bring out champions to represent them if direct combat between the two is unwinnable for either side, that is?)

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