arrow4,501 Comments
  1. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 10:09 am

    WH40K has some preaty powerful people but Stargate’s got better tech w/ asgard, nox, wraith, anchents, Furlings?, and Ori, Tokra, jaffa, and last but not least Humans

  2. akelz7
    Nov 09 - 10:11 am

    does WH40k have bullets or other conventional weapons? Replicators. don’t deny their might.

  3. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 10:12 am

    “Both sides races at their height and no gods/ascended beings. ”

    Well in that case my money would be on stargate. They have individualy more powerful ships, belonging to some of the races, and the weaker stargate races tend to have numbers on their side. A simple thing such as allowing replicators to upgrade their ships, as tehy do when infecting them, would score a win against virtualy anything warhammer 40k can throw at them.

  4. Syncourt
    Nov 09 - 11:02 am

    “Both sides races at their height and no gods/ascended beings.”

    This makes me wonder, does the effects of those gods still work? How will warp daemons come onto the materal reign? Will Gork and Mork no longer be granting physic defying abilities? etc.

  5. galorian
    Nov 09 - 11:13 am

    SG is rediculously outnumbered here, and I’ve seen nothing to suggest their ships are individualy more powerful. The IoM has cannons that shoot black holes ffs!

    Give me 1 good reason why the tyranids won’t simply gobble up everyone except for the replicators. Then explain to me how said replicators are going to keep from being flayed at the atomic level by the necron’s shield piercing gauss weapons.

    And that’s not even taking into account imperial capital ships with their continent glassing vollies…

  6. shadow2224990
    Nov 09 - 11:30 am

    i agree with galorian but star gate could still put up a fight

  7. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 11:31 am

    Well as for numbers, with each being at the height of their power, you have the go’uld system lords, who had thousands of ships before infighting, exploding stars, and the replicators knocked them down.You then have earth, with 3-6 battle cruisers, which when powered by a ZPM can take a Coronal mass ejection on the shields (and as teh replicators are still also here, they have no shortage of ZPM’s). You have the nox, who have super advanced cloaking devices. You have the asguard, who, at the height of their power, had a couple of hundred ships that had galaxy spanning ftl’s and firepower to knock out go’uld ships with relative ease. You have milky way replicators, who can take over a ship in less then a day and jack its systems up higher then asguard tech (which could easliy be used to improve friendly ships). You have the pegasus replicators, who are ancient level tech, and at the height of their power had several hundred aurora class ships hunting wraith, as well as the capacity to build atlantis cityships and as many ZPM’s as they need to power their and their allies ships. You then have the wraith, whose technology is only limited by its power generation, and the two times they got hold of a ZPM they 1, made a hive ship almost as powerful as atlantis and 2, used it to power a massive clone/growth facility pumping out virtualy unlimited numbers of wraith to destroy the ancients, since theyre now allied with pegasus replicators, ZPM’s will not be hard to get. Lastly we come to the ori, who have the tech to build a shield that absores what you shoot at it, and can crush a planet into a black hole. So yes, stargate universe tech is far higher then 40k in many respects. As for numbers, in space the sg universe is probably equal (not including nids). And nids themselves are unlikly to survive the levels of firepower teh stargate factions can unleash. Especially if the stargate factions allow the replicators to take over their industrial production.

  8. itcheyness
    Nov 09 - 11:49 am

    Stargate races jump in and drop replicators on Terra/blow up the sun

    There goes The Imperium

    However, even if the Stargate races were able to destroy the other factions, how would they reach the Dark Eldar?

  9. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 11:52 am

    Well theyre hanging out in the eye of terror, so it’d be problematic.

  10. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 11:53 am

    Sorry double post.
    Send replicators in, no sould to get messed up.

  11. Whacko
    Nov 09 - 12:00 pm

    I don’t like the 40K pic. It looks too generic and nowhere near dark enough.

  12. itcheyness
    Nov 09 - 12:05 pm

    The DE aren’t in the Eye of Terror, they’re in the Webway.

    Maybe Replicators could stow aboard a DE ship or something…

  13. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 12:09 pm

    Stargate Races

    Ancients – most powerful race in all the universe. Their main weapons, drones, ignore all shields unless they are specifically designed to repel them (even Anubis who had all the knowledge of the Ancients did not have shields that could stop the drones). @ 7:12 we see drones in action. Their long range ships can fly through stars.

    They also have many city-ships that with 3 ZPM’s can withstand a bombardment worse than this and this for years. Then they can submerge the city under the ocean for 10,000 years and the shields are still running.

    Asgard – The Asgard shields and weapons on the Human ships are extremely powerful. However, the Human ships do not have nearly as much power generation as the Asgard do. Asgard Beam weapons. Keep in mind that the weapons on the Human ships do not have as much power as the ones on Asgard ships.

    Human’s (Earth) – Are reletively new and have only 5 ships. @1:35.

    Goa’uld/Tok’ra – are not as impressive, except at their height they had hundreds of ships. They can also take over a hosts body and become spies. Starting at 0:50 we see planetary bombardments

    Jaffa – have fleets of their own. Very strong warriors.

    Ori – Enough said.

    Wraith – Relying on their overwhelming numbers, they were able to capture the Pegasus galaxy from the Ancients. They have many Hiveships Here we see an Ancient defense satelite in action. Then we see the Wraith destroy it (35:40 and 37:00).

    Milky Way Replicators – Rely on overwhelming numbers. They are a mechanical species that are built with nano-chips. The only way to kill them is to physically destroy the chips (bullets do not always work as they can reassemble themselves) or disrupt the communication between the individual chips. They are not affected by arms fire from energy weapons. Once they take over a ship, they either scrap it to make more of themselves, or they infect it, swap technologies, and make the ship stronger. They number in the trillions.

    Asuran Replicators – Number in the billions. Entire planet is made of Ancient city-ships and surrounding buildings. They have dozens of Aurora-class battleships which are all powered by ZPM’s.

    Thats all I can do before class… Even still I doubt they can beat WH. Will keep updating though.

  14. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 12:11 pm

    Having not read their codex in ages i may be wrong, but dont they just use the webway? They still inhabit worlds (hesperex) in real space. Going by Warrior Coven, at least one of which exists in the eye of terror. However your correct on just having some replicators hide on a ship and follow them back.

  15. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 12:13 pm

    My post (13) is awaiting moderation.

  16. itcheyness
    Nov 09 - 12:15 pm

    Most DE live in Commorragh which is located in the Webway, but they do have outposts on some planets aswell

    wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Commorragh

  17. Lowk
    Nov 09 - 12:18 pm

    Does Stargate still get unascended ancients?

  18. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 12:20 pm

    Ah thanks itcheyness.

    @Lowk, I dont think so, they were extinct before any Sg episode/films. However pegasus replicators have all their tech, so it wouldnt make much difference for this fight.

  19. itcheyness
    Nov 09 - 12:27 pm

    It says both sides races are at their height, which would seem to indicate the Ancients are in this too.

  20. Jwlynas
    Nov 09 - 12:27 pm

    I take it we’re assuming that that month of prep-time only comes followings the centuries that it’d take these races to agree to work together?

    I think it comes down to how the match progresses. if it gets to Boarding actions, I think the Warthammer army would win out over all. I’m not all that up on gun power levels, but I know the sort of devastation some of the big hitters would do to a ship once on board. Star gates main power is its ridiculously high levels of firepower from their ships. If they lose that advantage, I’ve seen nothing in the series that’d suggest they’re all that great up close.

  21. Ridwan
    Nov 09 - 12:29 pm

    I think the point of this battle is a full out space (and ground war?) which i think means the Emperor being sucked into a black hole isn’t really gonna happen. Although i doubt it would take out humanities ability to fight in a short range naval battle. His psychic scream would probably kill most psykers in the galaxy…
    Also from what i’ve seen of stargate they don’t seem very capable with close combat fighting. Do they even go around in squads?
    How many galaxies are in the star gate universe, because much to Warhammers shame it only has one galaxy to play with and numbers are everything.
    Personally i think the IoM could take them on themselves, especially in space battles. for gods sake they’ve hollowed out hundreds/thousands of planets just to make ships and weapons. Not to mention the archeotech the Inquisition and Mechanicum are hiding.

  22. Ryushi
    Nov 09 - 12:31 pm

    You know I’m just wondering: does anyone think Battlestar Galactica will make it onto FP? I know it sounds rediculous, but I believe it is popular, even if they were sued by Lucasarts for stealing ideas from Star Wars…

  23. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 12:32 pm

    Well if they see an invasion fleet heading for a planet, they can always use the asguards time dilation devices to give that planet however long it needs to fortify.

    Secondly, ori planet encompassing shields gather power from being struck. So the harder anyone decided to smack the planet the stronger the shield would get. Assuming of course the ori have decided not to crush that perticular planet into a black hole. Thats also a perfect way to destroy every single planet the warhammer universe has.

  24. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 1:11 pm

    Stargate has several galexys at there disposal and does any one have info on the furlings

  25. shaun182
    Nov 09 - 1:12 pm

    the Stargate species generally, have much faster vessels than their 40k opponents, apart from the necrons.

    Asgard have been shown to be able to travel from their home galaxy of Ida, to the milky way in a matter of hours, as well as the replicators who were able to super charge a goa’uld hatak class ship to achieve the same feat.

    Human form replicators are able, to access living beings memories by physical touch, so if the Stargate side where able to capture a DE, they could extract the information they needed, from them.

  26. Whacko
    Nov 09 - 1:15 pm

    The Warp is converted to nothing but deamons, and swamp everything.

    The end. (I wish)

  27. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 1:16 pm

    what about destiny and the blueberry aliens, do they cont in this match?

  28. Lowk
    Nov 09 - 1:22 pm

    @jhud
    So far nothing is known about either except destiny can fly through sun and the aliens want it.

  29. Jwlynas
    Nov 09 - 1:24 pm

    “Human form replicators are able, to access living beings memories by physical touch, so if the Stargate side where able to capture a DE, they could extract the information they needed, from them.”

    1. That assumes that all Dark Eldar know how to enter and exit the Webway without fail, and given the Dark Eldar Paranoia and control issues, thats unlikely. Or at least I’d assume so. Does anyone have the Dark Eldar rulebook that came out a matter of days ago to help clarify what their powers is like these days?

    2. Space Marines have a similar ability, able to absorb the memories of a species from its genetic code… somehow.

  30. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 1:31 pm

    woopdedoo so they all can steal info on whan onother just remember chuck norris is a human too(LOL)

  31. Zavier
    Nov 09 - 2:46 pm

    Since this is a giant space and ground battle and you guys already expanded mostly on the space battle. How would the fight on the ground or on ships (if they were boarded) go? Near the end of Stargate: Atlantis Daniel Jackson and Dr. Mckay discovered Asgards that lived in the Pegasus galaxy with pretty advanced armour. That combined with the Noxs cloaking technology I think the close combat battles would be very even.

    Also, couldnt the Stargate Universe use that Ancient machine that made Stargates blow up? They could use Stargates as weapons against the enemy by launching them at them and activating them when close enough. One Stargate has the ability to destroy a planet. So yeah…

  32. orber
    Nov 09 - 3:25 pm

    Destroying a planet ain’t THAT special in 40K terms.As far as I can tell the IoM Tau and Eldar/D-Eldar would have their fair share of trouble with the Replicators, but thats where Chaos and the Necrons come in.Necrons would flay the Repli’s so that they can’t selfrepair and Chaos uses its unnatural powers and energy’s to destroy them.

  33. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 3:34 pm

    “Replicators. don’t deny their might.”
    One does not use nanowank against Necrons,you won’t even inconvenience them.

  34. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 3:36 pm

    Keep in mind that 40k firepower seems to be in teraton to petaton sustained firepower range(that’s for IOM,now Eldar and Necrons have even greater firepower).

  35. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 3:38 pm

    The Asgard also has the ability to trap people in a time dilation field. They trapped the Replicators in the time dilation field which was supposed to trap them for hundreds of years. It did not work as planned and it only trapped them for a few months. But even still, its a weapon to use.

    The SGC can also “jump” gates. They can dial a gate that is close to a black hole, and jump the connection over too a planet held by WH. The gravitational and time effects will translate over the connection and trap the WH units forever.

  36. Gator9991
    Nov 09 - 3:39 pm

    this is an stomp of epic proportions in 40ks favor

  37. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 3:41 pm

    What is the SG firepower?

  38. Axalon
    Nov 09 - 3:59 pm

    “even if they were sued by Lucasarts for stealing ideas from Star Wars…”

    Really? When did BSG get sued? (and for what? Oh who am I kidding, Lucasarts doesn’t care about anything except $$$)

  39. shaun182
    Nov 09 - 4:14 pm

    basically every piece of technology the replicators have encountered, they have easily incorporated, races such goa’uld, Asgard and ancient.

    while powerful the necrons, are not so advanced, that the idea that replicators could overcome them, is an impossible one.

    Also basically every IoM vessel that encounters them, will fall adding they ships to the SG armada, because all it would take is one of those replicator missiles
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN3beUF_70w @ 2:50

    the missile bypasses shields, and as it is made of replicator blocks it can quickly reform into insect forms and begin multiplying and taking over systems.

  40. Belisaurius
    Nov 09 - 4:15 pm

    “The Asgard also has the ability to trap people in a time dilation field. ”

    Unless the people in question use their precog to determine a time flux altering the future and there fore decide to capture the device and reprogram it for their own ends. It also doesn’t help that many of WH40k forces aren’t effected by age.

    “They can dial a gate that is close to a black hole, and jump the connection over too a planet held by WH. ”

    Which only would work if they jump it from the black hole side. Alternatively, the war hammer forces could simply blow the gate to hell, a fairly normal response, and end up jumping destinations as well. Never mind the fact that the effect is random to begin with.

    yesh.

  41. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 4:20 pm

    @shaun182
    Proof that Replicators will pass through Void Shields?
    Even if they pass,the captain or the Techpriest on board will overload plasma reactors or warp drive.

  42. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 4:23 pm

    Well as stargates are made of naquada, they could blow it to hell, if they didnt mind cracking their planet in half when it blew. Its not even a matter of jumping it, just drop a gate near a black hole, then drop a second on the planet and have it dial the black hole gate. Dead planet.

    Though the asguard time dilation combined with replicators realy seals the deal in SG’s favour, as replicators were able to reverse the effects of the field. SG will be playing the game with 200 moves to 40k’s 1.

  43. Asmodraxus
    Nov 09 - 4:34 pm

    40k easy

    All factions at their height?

    Ctan eat stars
    Enslaver plague eat sentient life oh and they aren’t from this universe so normal rules tend not to apply to then like can they be effected by energy weapons, do they have mass etc?
    Tyrannid biomass = last galaxy they nom nom’d on and they eat everything, Replicators would be an interesting meal, all those nice minerals, who cares its not biomas they eat/stripmine planets…
    Elder empire prefall could build blackstone fortresses wich tended to do bad things like tear holes in reality.
    Orks are just as bad as the Tyrannids at fighting on micro cellular level upwards you have to fight their entire eco system not just the big green humanoids with a taste for violance and at their height had a ‘caste’/species that could deal with the tactical and strategic planning ie the lost brain boyz.
    Humans with dark age of technology vs Imperium of man with legions with living Primarchs and Emperor, difficult one to choose.
    Not to mention chaos forces at their height. Oh look replicators ate some chaoctic material = chaotically possesed replicators? Which also begs the question do we get 2 verions of the Primarchs with chaos Horus and non chaos Horus?
    Then theres the mythical Old ones of 40k that fought the Necrons and built the Elder and Orks.
    The Tau, well they are at the height of thier power so can be ignored to some extent?

    Then theres’ the myriad of other lesser species that have been mentioned in 40k fiction as having small sized multi star system empires.

  44. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 4:38 pm

    WHAT ABOUT THE BLUBERRIE ALIANS???????

  45. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 4:44 pm

    “What is the SG firepower?”

    Not sure on exact calcs. Stargate does not need to rely on martial might alone however. They have many other tactics to spread the hurt.

    The Prior Plagues. The Prior’s can release a plague that targets only a specific species. It spreads fast (was predicted to wipe out all humans on Earth in 3-6 weeks). The only way to cure this disease is to extract a specific protein directly from the Prior who created the plague and add that to the cure (don’t ask me on the process). It cannot be just some random Prior. Earth would have been wiped out as nobody on Earth could find a cure.

    The Tok’ra and Goa’uld can take over hosts from the WH universe and spy/sabotage stuff. They can take over high military and political leaders and cause disruption, betrayal, splinter the WH factions against each other, etc. This will be effectively more dangerous of an attack during the beginning years of the war.

    The Replicators do not just take ships apart and use the raw metals to replicate. If they take over a ship that is more advanced then their own technology, they keep it. They would spend time adapting, swapping, and upgrading (both the WH and their own) the technology. They would then reverse engineer it and the information would be spread across the entire network instantly. Once one WH ship is taken over, the ship, its secrets, and its technology would be mass produced and turned against WH.

    The Re’tu can phase 180 degrees out of view. This makes them 100% invisible to the naked eye, and allows weapons to pass right through them but can shoot back with deadly force.

    Nothing is known to stop a Prior’s abilities. They have shields that stop anything from nuclear bombs to poisonous gasses. Their mental abilities range from mind reading to physical attacks, bringing the dead back to life, produce severe pain for torture instances, create level 12 earthquakes, create monsters (vicious creatures), healing powers that can heal entire villages at once, astral projections from lightyears away, and of course the Prior Plagues.

    The Stragoth are another race that has the ability to infiltrate. They capture their opponents and scan their DNA. They then create a 3 dimensional hologram of the person around their body. They used this tactic to completely take over the SGC and some other military officials.

    The Nox have the ability to make anything invisible. They have a massive floating city that is invisible so nobody knows where they live. They also have awesome healing powers.

    The Blueberry Aliens (Human name for them) can create a virus (virus is the only word I can think of to use as its not a “virus” that we know of today) that molecularly changes a person into one of them. So far, there is no known way of stopping it.

    Another infiltration species is the Reol. Once they physically touch you, a chemical on their skin causes the brain to create false memories and images of the Reol in question. You basically start believing this Reol has been your best friend for quite some time, and your brain perceives them as a member of your respective race.

    The Wraith have many distinct advantages over Humans. They have a perfect cellular structure – they don’t age, they have a very strong immune system (only 1 disease can affect them), and their strength is massive. They are also extremely hard to kill. One can put 10+ P90 rounds into the chest of a Wraith, and it will stay up. The Wraith also have the ability to make people see something that isn’t there – distract them before the kill.

    “Unless the people in question use their precog to determine a time flux altering the future and there fore decide to capture the device and reprogram it for their own ends. It also doesn’t help that many of WH40k forces aren’t effected by age.”

    Don’t care about age. If what they perceive as a second is 10,000 years, then it gives massive amounts of time to the Stargate side. And seeing as how it has a radius of .16 lightyears, they can set this off from 3,025,361,585,756.16 km away and still trap them.

    “Which only would work if they jump it from the black hole side. Alternatively, the war hammer forces could simply blow the gate to hell, a fairly normal response, and end up jumping destinations as well. Never mind the fact that the effect is random to begin with.”

    Nope. Setting off a massive energy surge (directed energy bomb) straight into the event horizon and calibrating it (don’t ask me how) can jump the Stargate.

    “Proof that Replicators will pass through Void Shields?”

    Maybe not at first, but they will adapt to their surroundings and disrupt the shield. No shield can hold a replicator back forever.

  46. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 4:48 pm

    “The Tok’ra and Goa’uld can take over hosts from the WH universe and spy/sabotage stuff. They can take over high military and political leaders and cause disruption, betrayal, splinter the WH factions against each other, etc. This will be effectively more dangerous of an attack during the beginning years of the war.”
    Except that we have psykers in 40k which will detect them.
    “Maybe not at first, but they will adapt to their surroundings and disrupt the shield. No shield can hold a replicator back forever.”
    Now we’re entering no limits falacy.

  47. Belisaurius
    Nov 09 - 4:49 pm

    “then drop a second on the planet and have it dial the black hole gate. Dead planet.”

    So a planet buster. How is this different from glassing the planet? Scratch that, how is this better than tossing a rock at the planet in question? Heck, you’d have to spend more resources getting the gate to the target then it would take to actually attack the planet conventionally.

    “Well as stargates are made of naquada, they could blow it to hell, if they didnt mind cracking their planet in half when it blew. ”

    They don’t have to blow it up, just cause the connection to jump. Granted, they wouldn’t know that’s how you fix the problem, but blowing something up is fairly universal way to stop it.

  48. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 4:50 pm

    *note the complete volume of the time dilation bubble (assuming its a sphere) is 14,498,747,510,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 km^3.

  49. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 4:52 pm

    “The Wraith have many distinct advantages over Humans. They have a perfect cellular structure – they don’t age, they have a very strong immune system (only 1 disease can affect them), and their strength is massive. They are also extremely hard to kill. One can put 10+ P90 rounds into the chest of a Wraith, and it will stay up. The Wraith also have the ability to make people see something that isn’t there – distract them before the kill.”

    Then we have 40k weapons which will blow a nice hole in them(Lasguns do about 5-20 Megajoules from what I know and they’re Ak-47 of the 40k and basic weapon).

  50. itcheyness
    Nov 09 - 4:52 pm

    They don’t even have to use the time dilation device as a weapon, they could speed up time on a certain planet so one second for normal universe = 10000 years for them.

  51. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 4:58 pm

    I know the furrlings can do something but what can someone plz tell me

  52. DNAz
    Nov 09 - 4:59 pm

    Looks like a roflstomp to me

    The Imperial Army
    Multiple Huge Tyranid Five Fleets
    All Eldar Craftworlds
    Dark Eldar from Commorragh
    A United Ork Army
    Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines
    The Tau Empire
    All Necron Tomb Worlds

    For technological ships replicator missiles have to get past their defenses Tyranid Ships cant be taken over and once they take over a ork ship it would fall apart .

  53. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 5:03 pm

    “Now we’re entering no limits falacy.”

    True, but the energy holding the cells together can be adjusted to disrupt the shield. We have seen this capability in both the Milky Way Replicators and the Asurans. They may be captured, but their shields will not hold forever. It may take a minute, or a day, or a month. But eventually, the Replicator will find its way through.

    “They don’t have to blow it up, just cause the connection to jump. Granted, they wouldn’t know that’s how you fix the problem, but blowing something up is fairly universal way to stop it.”

    It will take them a very long time to learn the Stargate network. They would literally need to be on Earth and have a knowledge of Human astronomy. The naquadah is extremely strong, yet volatile. Not much has been shown to destroy a Stargate. And when it blows, it blows big. Naquadah is like the plutonium of our bombs. But it blows much bigger. Using only a small amount of Naqaudah, Humans built a 300mt bomb. Now with the amount of Naquadah on a Stargate, thats a big explosion. To further the explosion, the Stargate is charged with massive amounts of energy to be able to create wormholes.

  54. shaun182
    Nov 09 - 5:05 pm

    For one void shields don’t exist in SG universe, so how is anyone suppose to proof that, is like me saying proof that 40k weapons can damage the neutronium hull of an Asgard vessel.

    we can only use in series events, and replicators have time and time again, bypassed shielding, even highly advanced Asgard shields, it doesn’t seem to matter the type of shield since the replicator isn’t overpowering it, but just passing through as per its design.

    “Except that we have psykers in 40k which will detect them.”

    generally high ranking imperial officials, dont keep psykers around them, the only time the use them is as astropaths, who dont read the minds of those around them, but just send messages,

    and even they did, and where able to discover the governor/general/admiral or so was a goa’uld, he would only have to order the psykers death, stating, it was a traitor trying to disrupt the Imperium, and 99 out of 100 the troops will carry out the order without giving it a second thought .

    If the psychic security was tight as was suggested there wouldn’t be any rebellions, and traitorous actions in the IoM at all, but the often occur.

  55. Cananatra
    Nov 09 - 5:06 pm

    SG has time dilation devices, time travel, shields that can fly along the surface of a star, the ability to crush planets, nova stars and cross the galaxy in an instant. They have replicators that can up any ship to that level once they have the tech, and power generation facilities that make shields virtualy inpenetrable.

    Despite liking 40k more the stargate, 40k isnt going to win this.

  56. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 5:06 pm

    @Eric
    Problem is when the Replicators get aboard the Imperials will selfdestruct.

  57. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 5:07 pm

    itcheyness does have a point. They can create millions in a matter of seconds if they reverse the time dilation field. new technology. The Replicators did do this. Instead of shutting down the time dilation field, they reversed it so they caught up with and surpassed the surrounding time. They can use this time to reverse engineer WH technology.

  58. IvanTih
    Nov 09 - 5:11 pm

    “For one void shields don’t exist in SG universe, so how is anyone suppose to proof that, is like me saying proof that 40k weapons can damage the neutronium hull of an Asgard vessel.”
    Because every metal has a point of physical durability.
    “generally high ranking imperial officials, dont keep psykers around them, the only time the use them is as astropaths, who dont read the minds of those around them, but just send messages,

    and even they did, and where able to discover the governor/general/admiral or so was a goa’uld, he would only have to order the psykers death, stating, it was a traitor trying to disrupt the Imperium, and 99 out of 100 the troops will carry out the order without giving it a second thought .

    If the psychic security was tight as was suggested there wouldn’t be any rebellions, and traitorous actions in the IoM at all, but the often occur.”
    Even so how are they going to get to those officials which are protected very good?

  59. shaun182
    Nov 09 - 5:15 pm

    “Problem is when the Replicators get aboard the Imperials will selfdestruct.”

    How is that anything but an Advantage for the SG side, replicators are highly expendable, so the loss occurred forcing an IoM ship to self destruct, is easily worth the cost of a few thousand replicators, which can be replaced in seconds.

    wherein IoM ships, take years to complete and due to loss of knowledge, no recent ship is equal to a past version, and even if you said since the IoM is at the height of their power and could create vessels of equal power to previous models, they could never keep up with the level of attrition, they would suffer.

  60. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 5:22 pm

    damn and i thout i was smart

  61. Zavier
    Nov 09 - 5:25 pm

    Heres how it would go. In that month of preperation with no conflict the Replicators would use the time dialation technology and reverse it. That month would turn into billions upon billions of years. So when its time for the battle the SG Universe’s technology will be so far ahead nothing can stand against them.

    Stargate for FP award

  62. shaun182
    Nov 09 - 5:26 pm

    “Even so how are they going to get to those officials which are protected very good?”

    Goa’uld using cloaked alkesh, beams up imperial citizen, take as host, instantly learns, language, customs, everything the host knows, transports to planet, waits around till it can find a PDF trooper, over powers takes as new host, gaining access to secure area, governors place, PDF headquarters or other ranking officials home or office, takes over an servant/adviser/tailor/food taster/ anyone who can be alone with target, takes over target, whilst using a zat gun to dispose of bodies along the way.

    Equaling beam up target at night, take over them then beam down, or use personal cloaking device sneak in wait till target is alone, then take over.

  63. Gutsy
    Nov 09 - 5:51 pm

    The Imperium is nothing compared to the Necrons. Also are the C’tan kicked out of this as well?

  64. Belisaurius
    Nov 09 - 6:22 pm

    “It will take them a very long time to learn the Stargate network.”

    Stop, before you go any further, realize that they are trying to destroy a stargate and cause it to jump by accident. They don’t need to learn the network, they’ve got FTL travel already.

    “Goa’uld using cloaked alkesh, beams up imperial citizen, take as host, instantly learns, language, customs, everything the host knows, transports to planet, waits around till it can find a PDF trooper, over powers takes as new host, gaining access to secure area, governors place, PDF headquarters or other ranking officials home or office, takes over an servant/adviser/tailor/food taster/ anyone who can be alone with target, takes over target, whilst using a zat gun to dispose of bodies along the way.”

    Which works fine until the inquisitors and psychers get their hands on them. A telepath would know instantly that someone is mind controlled, a precog would realize whose being influenced. An Inquisitor would arrest and torture anyone that so much as looks at the wrong thing funny. They don’t need evidence or valid reasoning to arrest and interogate someone so they don’t need to know about a Goa’uld spy in order to arrest said spy.

    Throw in some daemon informants…

    “Heres how it would go. In that month of preperation with no conflict the Replicators would use the time dialation technology and reverse it. That month would turn into billions upon billions of years. So when its time for the battle the SG Universe’s technology will be so far ahead nothing can stand against them.”

    WH40K counters by the emperor accending to chaos (granted, he’s out of the battle after that) and creating a second eye of terror (eye of terra?) Also, replicators don’t do R&D very well.

    “How is that anything but an Advantage for the SG side, replicators are highly expendable, so the loss occurred forcing an IoM ship to self destruct, is easily worth the cost of a few thousand replicators, which can be replaced in seconds.”

    In order to overwhelm the local security forces they would need enough to saturate the ship. Due to size discrepancies, perhaps and entire replicator ship may be needed for a cruiser class warship. Don’t even try to take a space marine or chaos ship.

  65. Jwlynas
    Nov 09 - 6:35 pm

    An Imperial Citizen knows less than we do about how Imperium Tech works. Forgetting that some imperium citizens would be like the ones who live on Fenris and are at a Viking level of tech, even citizens from the more advanced areas know little more than us. The only people with technological information are the Tech priests of Mars and their contemporaries Tech-Marines, Eldar Bonesingers, Haemonculi, Ork Mekboys… None of them are the types you want to try and trap.

    Well, I say that, what sort of holding cells do the Goa’uld use?

    This Time Dilation field sounds deadly though. In theory the Warhammer universe has a similar place in the Webway, and the Dark Eldar are no slouches at genetic games, having gained enough medical expertise to regenerate someone from just a hand over the course of hours, but that level of replication… Difficult to say. the best bet would be hitting that same field with a Void Missile or Stasis grenade.

  66. CIDE
    Nov 09 - 6:48 pm

    “Give me 1 good reason why the tyranids won’t simply gobble up everyone except for the replicators. Then explain to me how said replicators are going to keep from being flayed at the atomic level by the necron’s shield piercing gauss weapons.”

    Already admitted in another thread that in a replicator vs ‘nid fight the replicators would win. They’d mostly ignore each other as there’s nothing to gain from the other. No technology and no biomass respectively. The problem is the replicators have the time dilation technology and could consume mass (not restricted to only biomass) considerably faster than the ‘nids. That is if it was a neutral fight and both sides started out equal. In this instance ‘nids out number them and Replicators need to make up some lost time.

    Either way humans can MAKE replicators too. Even if they probably won’t after the last instance in the movie.

    “Does Stargate still get unascended ancients?”

    The ONLY way to deal with psykers. What’s the answer on this? Not all were extinct but they were in a very small group and technically they were capable of ascension at any time; likely counted as gods. Priors would be close enough to these though.

    “Also from what i’ve seen of stargate they don’t seem very capable with close combat fighting. Do they even go around in squads?”

    They’re relatively good at what they do on the ground. Just nowhere near 40k levels. MAYBE if the PIS were dropped that kept them from upgrading soldiers with stuff like Kull armor they’d at least survive a shot or more I doubt they’d win any ground encounter. I don’t think they have any hand held weapons that can deal with Space Marines.

    “How many galaxies are in the star gate universe, because much to Warhammers shame it only has one galaxy to play with and numbers are everything.”

    Multiple galaxies (2-3) but it really has nothing to do with numbers.

    “You know I’m just wondering: does anyone think Battlestar Galactica will make it onto FP? I know it sounds rediculous, but I believe it is popular, even if they were sued by Lucasarts for stealing ideas from Star Wars…”

    I think they were in a match. They lost to a stomp.

    “Stargate has several galexys at there disposal and does any one have info on the furlings”

    The most we have on the Furlings is that they were one of the major four races teamed with the Ancients and Asgard. We were told that we saw a skeeton of their’s. Nothing more.

    ““Replicators. don’t deny their might.”
    One does not use nanowank against Necrons,you won’t even inconvenience them.”

    Not that I doubt that the source of nanites in 40k is broken beyond belief and over powered but we need proof posted. Especially ones that have the time dilation technology that allows them to adapt and advance at an accelerated rate.

    “What is the SG firepower?”

    I think Gua’uld are in mid-high megaton range from what I remember of the debate it was featured in. They’re bottom of the barrel. I don’t know where the other races are at. I’ll do some checking.

  67. Zazax
    Nov 09 - 7:30 pm

    “Well, I say that, what sort of holding cells do the Goa’uld use?”
    It really depends. The Tok’ra use some sort of force field, Anubis physically restrains his victims with a huge metal chair/bench thing, Cronos had these weird cylindrical energy fields, and Baal had holding cells that shifted gravity to stick the victim up against the far wall (although he could dial it up enough to prevent O’Neill from moving at all).

    “Problem is when the Replicators get aboard the Imperials will selfdestruct”
    Is this instant? Because the Replicators have become quite good at switching the self-destruct off. Also note that that there are no sensors I’m aware of in the entire SGverse that can detect replicators (including Asgard sensors, which can pick up just about anything else), so unless the Imperium has something more they’d need to actually come into contact with the replicators on the ship. Note that the Replicators usually take over ship systems and power generation before deliberately making their presence known.

    Replicator blocks also are made of the same material that the Replicators broke down to create them in the first place, so if the Replicattors eat something made out of Necrodermis or Adamantium, then there’d be Replicators made of Necrodermis and Adamantium running around.

    Also, no love for the Ori (or at least their Priors and mortal followers)? Control an entire galaxy (as far as we know)? Enough firepower to 2-shot Asgard shields (and shoot right through Goa’uld ships, and keep going)? Shields that only get stronger when you shoot them? Ability to collapse planets (planets!) into black holes? Ability to raise the dead? Anybody?

    Also, we do know a little bit about the Blueberry Aliens. The Destiny has shields powerful enough to survive flying through a star unscathed, and the BB Aliens have sufficient firepower to drop the shields of and destroy this vessel with 15ish ships in a matter of minutes. They also have something that can presumably turn members of other races into more of themselves, but there’s no real information of that yet.

    Also, in the pilot of Universe we see three Lucian Alliance Ha’taks actually give a human ship (I think it was the Daedalus?) a great deal of trouble. Word of God is they’ve been upgrading. We don’t know how much yet, but if they can fight Asgard tech effectively at 3-1 odds, they’re way better than they used to be.

  68. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 7:36 pm

    “Also, replicators don’t do R&D very well.”

    What are you talking about????? Well, yes you are correct. They don’t do R&D. What they do is assimilate technology (like the Borg do sentients). When they found Apophis’ mothership, the Replicators augmented the fuck out of it. They made somethings better, and kept somethings the same (probably because it was more efficient than what they could make it).

    A possible tactic is for the Re’tu to phase with a Goa’uld. It passes harmlessly through all the security checkpoints undetected as it takes a specially calibrated weapon called a TER to detect Re’tu.

    Man so many races and technologies I’ve forgotten about. The Sodan are a special sect of the Jaffa who broke away from the Goa’uld. They specialize in invisible warfare. They use a Sodan Cloaking device that shifts them into another dimension. It is impossible to detect these people, however they can still fire on people in our dimension – who cannot harm the Sodan in return.

    The Sodan could easily accomplish the task of intelligence and infestation.

    ““Does Stargate still get unascended ancients?”

    The ONLY way to deal with psykers. What’s the answer on this? Not all were extinct but they were in a very small group and technically they were capable of ascension at any time; likely counted as gods. Priors would be close enough to these though.”

    There are still unascended Ancients so therefore, they still exist as a race to fight. Priors are not gods. They have an advanced physiology that allows them their powers. However, they need to use their staffs to channel their powers. But good luck separating them.

    @Ivan

    Just because one race has the ability (although you haven’t proven anything yet, just outright claiming) to cancel one’s power does not completely negate it. It can be used on the other races that have no defense.

  69. Zavier
    Nov 09 - 7:50 pm

    Like I previously posted. Couldnt the Replicators alter the Time Dialation Field to speed up time and then use it on themselves. A second could = 1,000 years which means that after a minute the Replicators and their allies could have 10x stronger shield because during that time they were researching how to strengthen them. Also many other technological advancments could be made during that short time (relative to everyone else).

    Also, the Ark of Truth could just make the opposing forces believe that they must kill themselves. So goodby 40k. Plus the SGU would have their own version of Halo’s Halo, The Dakara Device. Check out the link to see whats its about.

    stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Dakara_superweapon

  70. Zazax
    Nov 09 - 7:52 pm

    “The Sodan are a special sect of the Jaffa who broke away from the Goa’uld. They specialize in invisible warfare. They use a Sodan Cloaking device that shifts them into another dimension. It is impossible to detect these people, however they can still fire on people in our dimension – who cannot harm the Sodan in return.”
    To draw comparisons to 40k, this would be like if the Necrons actually fought while phased out. Phased Necrons could see them, but no idea if they could actually fight the Sodan. The Sodan sure could fight phased Necrons (and see them).

  71. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 7:53 pm

    @ Zavier

    The Replicators don’t do R&D. They assimilate new technologies.

    The Ark of Truth is something I remember at work, but forgot to put in my post. It basically makes you believe whatever it is programmed to just by looking into the light it gives off.

    The weapon on Dakara is destroyed.

  72. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 7:55 pm

    dont forget about the wraith secreetions

  73. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 8:01 pm

    “To draw comparisons to 40k, this would be like if the Necrons actually fought while phased out. Phased Necrons could see them, but no idea if they could actually fight the Sodan. The Sodan sure could fight phased Necrons (and see them).”

    This already happened in Stargate. Lt. Col. Mitchell was accidentally phased out by an Ancient cloaking device (read below on it). He was able to converse with Teal’c who was using the Sodan Cloaking device. However, they were unable to touch each other.

    Arthur’s Mantle shifts entire area’s into the same dimension as the Sodan Cloaking device. The amount of are is proportional to the energy input. Carter has hidden the entire Earth before.

  74. Zazax
    Nov 09 - 8:02 pm

    “The weapon on Dakara is destroyed.”
    But if everyone is at the height of their power, shouldn’t the Free Jaffa Nation (or someone) have access to it? Just like Anubis should have access to his Superweapon powered by the Eyes of the Goa’uld?

    Which of course begs a question, is Anubis physically present in this fight? He’s not really a god, since he’s only half-ascended, and never displayed any real powers short of possession abd being damn near impossible to kill.

  75. Belisaurius
    Nov 09 - 8:43 pm

    “Also, the Ark of Truth could just make the opposing forces believe that they must kill themselves. So goodby 40k.”

    …dude, that is down right insultingly bad research. The ark of truth never made anyone kill themselves. It only tells the viewer that the Ori are not gods and unworthy of worship.

  76. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 8:48 pm

    “dont forget about the wraith secreetions”

    What???

  77. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 9:01 pm

    @Eric Gigliotti-its what keeps u alive whene ther feeding on u and if ther not feeding on u it gives u super str. and reflexes.

  78. Zazax
    Nov 09 - 9:03 pm

    “It only tells the viewer that the Ori are not gods and unworthy of worship.”
    Actually, it forces its victims to believe whatever has been pre-programmed into it by whoever is using it. The Tau’ri programmed it to make the Priors believe whatever they wanted them to believe, which in this case was that the Ori are not gods. It can be reprogrammed to make other people think anything else. Although, as you say, it was never used to force people to kill themselves, but it could very easily turn large numbers of troops away from 40k and onto SG’s side, if they could get a good delivery system.

  79. itcheyness
    Nov 09 - 9:06 pm

    The Ark of Truth makes you believe whatever it is programed to make you believe.

    It is currently programed to make you believe the Ori are not gods, but it can be changed.

  80. Jhud
    Nov 09 - 9:11 pm

    the dillivery the Tau’ri used was a ship flown throu the supergate (made by the Ori) into the Ori home galaxy.

  81. Gator9991
    Nov 09 - 9:12 pm

    “Humans with dark age of technology vs Imperium of man with legions with living Primarchs and Emperor, difficult one to choose.”

    im pretty sure the emperor counts as a divine being and is hence un included in this

  82. Zavier
    Nov 09 - 9:19 pm

    @Belisaurus/Zazax
    I was just thinking if the Ark of Truth had the ability to be programmed with anything couldnt it be programmed to make the enemy forces believe in ritual suicide. That was my thinking behind that. If not like previously stated it could convert much of the enemy forces.

    Also, yes the Replicators arent too good at R&D, if the other races were encompassed in the reversed time dialation field they could do all the R&D and the Replicators could give their almost endless supllies of resources since each race is at their peak.

    Sorry for the AoT and the Dakara weapon I was in a rush.
    1. Didnt have time to explain
    2. Didnt have to time to research fully

  83. James
    Nov 09 - 9:31 pm

    so if replicators do attack chaos ships and touch or try to replicate any of the tech then wont caos power just gain a twisted form of replicators and cant the numan release the forces of warp in the entire universe in effect turn it into a play ground for the forces of caos.

    Necrons weapons are Sepulchres which mess with the minds of enemies and breaks the chain of command. Veil of Darkness which can teleport them any where say the bridge or engine room of a enemy ship. Disruption Field which can be carried by troops other than the Lords. Disruption Fields do penetrate vehicular armour in close combat in the same manner as a Gauss weapon so if you even go close to a necron or necron ship then you matter starts to fall apart and that is the one key problem with replicators

  84. James
    Nov 09 - 9:53 pm

    also what about Ctan phase weapons which will cut any object irrespective of its physical properties Energy shields armour and even daemonic bodies are of no defence against it. so with this you can cut shields or armors or any object
    thats a well a object so its a coupe de grace weapon and necrons have it

  85. Michael50210
    Nov 09 - 10:06 pm

    I’ve seen both, and 40k will rape these stargate people.
    Tau will stand back and snipe them
    Necrons will flay them and cause terror
    Tyranids will absorb them (and later use that biomass on their “allies” AS SOON as the battle ends)
    Chaos Marines will summon demons and use all manner of unholy sh*T on the stargate people
    Space marine terminators will stand there and laugh like hell while gunning down their enemies, with support fire from their brothers standing right behind them, perfectly safe
    Imperial guard will be the cannon fodder, since they’re not good for much else. Wimps.
    Eldar and Dark eldar will hit-and-run the hell out of them
    I feel like I’m forgetting a race. oh well
    In space, Necrons and Tyranid will do all the work, while everyone else sits back and watches, and MAYBE they might actually be needed

  86. Locutus
    Nov 09 - 10:25 pm

    The problem is that we don’t know what Necrons had at the height of their power. What we have seen of them in current 40k is only the tip of the iceberg.

  87. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 10:43 pm

    @Michael50210

    We know that WH tech destroy Stargate. But Stargate has other ways of besting WH that does not include martial might.

  88. James
    Nov 09 - 10:50 pm

    Locutus@ so you are just going to write them off since it its unknown factor ???
    your arguments kapoot since it has no relevances to this debate. the sheer size of WH40ks army’s is massive it could be up to a billion space craft even trillions since we don’t know the number of crafts in the Tyranids fleets but from what we can tell yes Star gate has some super weapons and a few powerful beings allowed and ships where as Warhammer has thousands of super weapons countless super ships and super beings allowed.

  89. Eric Gigliotti
    Nov 09 - 11:06 pm

    “where as Warhammer has thousands of super weapons countless super ships and super beings allowed.”

    And how are they going to effectively use their forces when they have been exposed to the lethal Prior Plague? Or key persons are effectively infected with Goa’uld / assassinated by phased out Re’tu, Sodan, or regular people hidden by the Nox.

    Or how will they respond when they take minutes to escape the time dilation device only to realize that ten thousand years have gone by?

    @ Admin

    Does this 1 month prep time allow for cloaked incursions into each other’s territories for intelligence and/or spy placements?

  90. Zazax
    Nov 09 - 11:12 pm

    Is there a special rule in place preventing Stargate from using the Time Dilation device to turn their month of prep time into an ungodly amount of prep time?

    “Stargate has other ways of besting WH that does not include martial might”
    Stargate makes great use of the Inverse Law of Utility Versus Lethality.

  91. James
    Nov 09 - 11:13 pm

    well if you want to ” if ” this then a universal battle would encompass the warp and warp induced storms. the emperor prior to ascendances will be allowed. the human empire prior to its fall to the dark age so all the unknown technology will be allowed the race that made elder and orcs thats in it so lets just keep it to a battle and not wank about what if this and that or i will spam numan and its ability’s

    how about enslavers.

    cut and paste

    They are spontaneously created by the shifting energies of the Warp from the nightmares of sentient species, and prowl the Immaterium like sharks. The Enslavers are able to psychically control other species, forcing them to their will, hence their name. Enslavers are able to control almost any species, even creatures such as Tyranids and daemons! However it is thought that the only race immune to the Enslavers are the Necrons, who have no souls nor psychic presence in the Warp. Enslavers exist primarily in the Warp, but can enter the physical universe like a daemon through the unprotected mind of a human psyker

    so sacrifice a human and you have control over enemy race thats is easy realy dont drown trying to save a doomed boat

  92. James
    Nov 09 - 11:18 pm

    The Time dilation device was a device of Asgard design, conceived to artificially change the normal passage of time. The device was capable of generating a field radius of point-one-six light years. Within the bubble, time could be slowed down by a factor of ten to the fourth power. This means that one year within the time dilation field would be 10,000 years for everyone else

    so its not 10 minuets to 10 000 years and it wont work on necrons so its a void point necrons will win it

  93. James
    Nov 09 - 11:23 pm

    Necrodermis is the false body used to contain the compressed essenced of a C’tan when it manifests, thus allowing it perceive the material world. Each Necrodermis is made of the living metal originally developed by the ancient and long dead Necrontyr for use in their starships. The shape of a Necrodermis can be modified at will by its C’tan inhabitant, leading to vast differences between the bodies of each Star God. This also allows the spontaneous formation of cutting and slashing weapons as required.
    If the Necrodermis is breached, the essence of the C’tan is released, accompanied by an explosion of some form, which can damage nearby units. This is but a minor setback for the C’tan however, as a new Necrodermis can be reforged and the C’tan can cross the incorporeal starlight bridge back to the material realm once again

    C’tan phase weapons (also known as fractal edged weapons) (including the Callidus Assassin Phase Sword, Cypher’s Phase Knife, Necron Warscythes and the metal bodies of the C’tan themselves) are all based around a metal blade of unknown composition that, through the use of highly advanced Necron physics, is capable of slicing through any object irrespective of its physical properties. Energy shields, armour and even daemonic bodies are of no defence against a Phase Weapon. However, as the C’tan Necrodermis is made of the same metal and has the same properties, attacking a C’tan with a Phase Weapon disarms the attacker, as the metal becomes a part of the C’tan’s Necrodermis shell

    so necrons dont follow the same time and physics as everyone else around them since the are built of a material that quote “a metal blade of unknown composition that, through the use of highly advanced Necron physics, is capable of slicing through any object irrespective of its physical properties. Energy shields, armour and even daemonic bodies are of no defence against a Phase Weapon. However, as the C’tan Necrodermis is made of the same metal and has the same properties”

    basically you cant stop them by the laws of physics since they made it their lapdog

  94. itcheyness
    Nov 09 - 11:36 pm

    Replicators reprogrammed it and made it run faster for them and protect them from a black hole using a scientific principal of it’s-working-and-we-sure-as-hell-don’t-know-how.

    Also in the episode unending SG-1 used time dilation technology to create a time dilation bubble to slow down time for themselves. Within the time dilation field, time passes in such a way that years may go by while fractions of a second pass by outside the field.

  95. James
    Nov 09 - 11:38 pm

    true but still what do SG have to stop necrons ?

  96. Locutus
    Nov 09 - 11:52 pm

    “so you are just going to write them off since it its unknown factor ???”

    Uhh I’m just saying that we don’t know what they are truly capable of. I mean the latest 40k edition has showed us that they can use entire planets as fuckin starships, so who the hell knows what crazy shit they can do when at full power.

  97. Zazax
    Nov 10 - 12:00 am

    What does WH have to stop the Replicators and Asurans?

    Are Gauss Weapons classified as energy weapons? Because Replicators are extremely reisstant, if not ouright immune, to energy weapons (or at least handheld ones. We’ve seen concentrated fire from capital ships take them out with difficulty)

    Replicators have been shown to reassemble after being blasted to bits, similarly to Necrons.

    Projectiles fired from Replicator ships have been shown to pierce right through Asgard shields (some of the best in the entire SGverse) without even slowing down. These projectiles are themselves made of replicator blocks, which disassemble into more Replicators once inside the ship. I mentioned this above, but I’ll do so again; the Replicators are explicitly said to be undetectable to most (if not all) the sensors in SG, even the Asgad ones, and if even a single Replicator survives aboard an infected ship, they’re still im extreme danger.

    And then there’s the Asurans, which are pretty much the same deal, only with Ancient-level technology.

    The biggest threats from 40k are, as always, the ‘crons and ‘nids. the IoM, Tau, Eldar, Orks, and maybe Dark Eldar could all be done in by the Replicators, given enough time and a bit of help from the other SG factions. Chaos is probably too dangerous to try eating with Replicators.

    On a ship-by-ship scale of firepower, I’d put the Ori, Asgard, Ancients, Asurans, Tau-ri (although they have an *extremely* crippling lack of numbers), and perhaps Tollan on the upper level of the power scale. The System Lords and Free Jaffa are definitely the weakest.

    Which reminds me. Everyone seems to be completely overlooking the Lucian Alliance, Tollan, and the Aschen Confederacy. Granted, they’re not the most numerous factions in SG, but they have some things that might prove useful.

  98. Zazax
    Nov 10 - 12:03 am

    Sorry for the double post, but:

    “What does WH have to stop the Replicators and Asurans?”

    was meant to be rhetorical, and more of a cheeky reply to James than an actual question.

  99. James
    Nov 10 - 12:09 am

    Are Gauss Weapons classified as energy weapons? Because Replicators are extremely reisstant, if not ouright immune, to energy weapons (or at least handheld ones. We’ve seen concentrated fire from capital ships take them out with difficulty)

    no Gauss Weaponry is used by the Necrons and are horrifying devices. They are magnetically based weapons that break down the target into its component molecules layer by layer and attract the molecules back to the gun at incredible speed

  100. James
    Nov 10 - 12:11 am

    Sorry for the double post, but:
    “What does WH have to stop the Replicators and Asurans?”
    was meant to be rhetorical, and more of a cheeky reply to James than an actual question.

    just me and my stubbornness

Leave a Reply

You must be to post a comment.

Mobile Theme