Suggested by Eric Gigliotti
Here we have one of the most popular characters on FactPile in the form of Hall of Fame member Link from the Legend of Zelda franchise up against Eragon.
For this match, Eragon can’t use Death Words but has everything else.
With those powers not available to him, I think it’s Link’s match to lose.
What say you?
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First post bitches oh and link ftw
-ci
I didn’t see Eragon, but when Link has access to a lot of his items and stuff, and not just a straight sword fight, he’s a pretty heavy hitter. So on those grounds i’ll put him down for a win, but I know virtually nothing about the other guy.
Of course it’s Link’s match to lose. Eragon is a Gary Stu.
If you want even matches for Eragon, pin him against Alucard, Wolverine, Kizaru, God Enel, Akainu or Lobo.
” of course it’s Link’s match to lose”
Please explain
-ci
@blanka
Umm. . .How about superior firepower?
cant eragon simply take the energy from link until he dies?
@ss
You are just starting to come back to the site after a long while, what has been keeping you?
I saw eragon, fell asleep the first hour, the next day I just thought he died, the Dragon did, and everyone…
If it wasn’t a kids book, I’d believe that, but NO, the boy who finds the dragon destroy the expeienced man, with the dark dragon, and they win! Everything exists in kids movies, true love, happiness, people dying without seeing them bleed out, and a happy ending… Man, the memories of childhood…
whats the current link? ST?
CLEARLY we should wait for Negative Zero’s expertiese on this subject.
..nyuk nyuk nyul
@rorschach
my computer crashed i relied on someone to fix it to save money, they took a while, and since then ive just been watching mostly until i saw matches or comments that interest me, ive never been one to comment on alot of thing just to
I don’t either, but I do want more wins in the Hall of Fame…
I want some taken out of the hall of fame, like halo vs star wars.
thats a tall order considering what it takes to get a match into the hall of fame
@overlord
get enough support and maybe admin will make a rematch hes done it once before
@ss
Here’s why:
No forerunners or precursors on the halo side.
The flood has been sterilized.
The covenant just had a civil war and is in ruins.
The UNSC is in even worse shape.
SW keeps getting more and more powerful.
Everything in SW keeps on advancing while halo is in ruins.
I know it got into the hall of fame cause of the calculations, but what about the halo side? What did they get? They got to watch the SW side get an award they didn’t deserve.
“@overlord
get enough support and maybe admin will make a rematch hes done it once before”
And get swarmed over by the Triumvirate like Frieza or whoever that Halo fanatic was?
- pf
@overlord
valid points, but im not who you have to convince
@pf
like the good old days haha no but there will always be fanboys, that match just brought them out
@pf
I’ll take my chances with admin. I’d rather stand my own and lose instead of nothing at all.
Anyway…getting back to the topic, what kind of link is this, I personally am not a fan of his however I did read a lot of the Kratos vs link thread and he seemed quite strong (if not in a good or balanced way) so this may prove to be a debate. However shouldn’t link loose his/her strongest weapon as Eragon has lost his.
@chewie
he has a new weapon thats better than his old one brisingr
What weapon exactly ss? I thought he still used brisingr. . .
i meant brisingr is his new weapon, sorry for the confusion
@ss
Your fine. . .I don’t know much about eragon, and that would’ve been good to know.
‘get enough support and maybe admin will make a rematch hes done it once before’
The match that needs a definite rematch IMO, is Master Chief vs Solid Snake. Link vs Kratos also seems to have changed a bit also.
As for this match, wouldn’t it be Spirit Tracks Link since that’s his latest incarnation?
“As for this match, wouldn’t it be Spirit Tracks Link since that’s his latest incarnation?”
Yeah, it is, which raises the question of how a child would use adult weapons.
Link takes this.
For the facts that he have all his magic,items & is an expert of sword fighting.
I think Chewie was referring to the Death Words. Of course it would be no match if he said a Death Word and killed Link instantly.
Link has some pretty powerful magic moves… Eragon has a wider range of moves and still has some powerful ones himself. Eragon will pretty much outlast Link by using the energy stored in Aren.
“For the facts that he have all his magic,items & is an expert of sword fighting.”
he does not…current incarnation rules that this is ST link. he doesnt have any remarkable items or magics.
Actually most recent is sky link we just need the game to release to find out more, but he appears to be a step ahead of TP’s swordfighting skills.
It will release soon best we wait.
“Actually most recent is sky link we just need the game to release”
… which isn’t out yet… hence the Current Link is still ST…. Because that is CURRENTLY the MOST RECENTLY RELEASED…
“Actually most recent is sky link we just need the game to release”
“… which isn’t out yet… hence the Current Link is still ST…. Because that is CURRENTLY the MOST RECENTLY RELEASED…”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XpGnegMns
We are only going to be going over this again.(this is why current sucks for link lol)
We should at least go over basic swordfighting between the two get a head start
or go over all of the links in the fight like you like to do.
Because ST link isn’t going to do anything in this fight.
@ss
Sorry for the confusion, but Eric was right I was referring to the death words.
While I think it makes sense to remove them from this battle i think that if Link has a similar weapon it too should be nullified for this battle.
I think we should now compare how they fight in hand to hand combat, then magic, then anything else if it exists.
So, to any Link supporters, evidence of how much of a mean green sock wearing machine the current link is.
I will endeavour to find page references using all three books however it may take some time and there are plenty of other people who are probably better versed in debating etc.
Some Links have extremely powerful spells that can usually overkill a soft target… Although the last Link (in terms of game release dates rather than in-universe timeline) to weild such a spell was FS/FSA Link, and he was using the same spells that Lttp/LA Link used. The more recent Links tend to rely more on tech rather than spells. WW/PH Link was the last battle mage and even he had less than five spells.
And like the spells, the differant Links vary greatly in terms of hand to hand and sword ability. TP Link is probably the best at unarmed combat (he used a sumo style), followed by Oracles Link (he was a boxer). WW/PH Link is the best swordsman (counter attack > anything any other Link could pull off). TP Link is the next best though.
The Four Sword made the FS/FSA Link and army unto himself. Four skilled magic warriors that think as one… that is a deadly team.
Honestly though Link tends to be getting weaker and weaker per each new incarnation that Nintendo comes out with. Almost every Link would fall to either LttP/LA Link’s or LoZ/AoL Link’s spells and enchanted wands (they both are the only Links to have weilded the Magic Rod, which is one of the most powerful non-mcguffin/god slaying weapons in the series; LoZ/AoL Link had a book that boosted its power too).
Almost all Links have some advantage over another Link (save LttP/LA Link who could probably take on all of the other Links in a series of 1v1 matches with full supply refills in between).
ST Link has a small arsenal compared to some of the earlier Links. He has the standard stuff (Bombs, Bow/Arrow,Boomerang,magic music insturment,Sword/Shield) but he only has a whip and the “Whirlwind” as other items and both of those are mainly support items, and the Whirlwind is more or less a downgrade from the Boomerang. Nothing too impressive.
I’m not going to pretend to understand all of that (not because it didn’t make sense but because I am not a fan of the series).
Is this “ST” Link the newest one?
If so I think Eragon would at least hold his own; just going by equipment lists,
Bombs: could be stopped by wards? Just how powerful are they?
Bow/arrow: Eragon also has these, and the can defiantly be stopped by wards. Are there any magic ones?
Boomerang and magic instrument: I’m going to leave these for the moment as I don’t really know what they are and googleing is difficult on an ipod.
Sword and Shield: Eragon has an incredibly strong sword. I can’t remember off the top of my head if he had a shield.
Other items Eragon has: (off the top of my head)
The belt which stores energy,
There are stones in his sword which store energy (?)
The heart/stone thing of Glaedr (which may be outside help, but I don’t think so)
Can’t remember anything else at the moment so, I shall wait for a few more comments before returning to counter/agree with them.
If Eragon can’t use Death Words, he still has Saphira. Take that, Navi!
On the other hand, the triforce might pull the battle in Link’s favor. Also, Eragon has way more armor than Link. So I’m going for Eragon.
Even if Skyward Sword came out, if it canonicly happens before Spirit Tracks, or Twilight Princess, then that means ST is still the current incarnation.
“Yeah, it is, which raises the question of how a child would use adult weapons.”
Very effectively. As I have learned over time, children are far more of a threat than adults.
“Even if Skyward Sword came out, if it canonicly happens before Spirit Tracks, or Twilight Princess, then that means ST is still the current incarnation.” Yeah thing is you would have to prove it and you really can’t. Timeline wise zelda is kinda messed up/
@laharl
That’s the reason I don’t like zelda games. . .not in chronological order.
I am unsure of Eragon’s equipment beyond his sword, but here is a list of spells he has used.
inheritance.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_spells
I’m not sure if this will be enough to defeat Link, as whenever Eragon cast a spell it drains life energy from him. Meaning if he uses to much he will die.
Firstly, Eragon cannot just suck the energy from Link and kill him right then and there. The energy drain is more of a gradual process that Eragon hasn’t fully mastered yet, and the only things he can quickly kill with it are small creatures like mice, birds, and snakes. Against an opponent of Link’s strength, it would be at best a steady weakening of Link.
I haven’t played Spirit Tracks, but if he only has the equipment that OriginalA specified, without any of the powerful magic that characterized maybe of his other incarnations, then (though I hate to say it) he probably won’t win this match, even with the Death Words. Eragon has magic that is quite potent and versatile, and provided that he doesn’t forget about Aren, he’ll have a vast amount of stamina to support those spells for long periods of time.
The earlier Links could probably outlast Eragon with their powerful items. Link protected by Naryu’s Love or one of his other powerful magical defenses, while chugging potions to replenish himself, would be very difficult to Eragon to damage, even if he did have the death words. On the other hand, since Eragon’s wards are ineffective against powerful enchanted weapons, they would probably fail to stop a lot of the more powerful weapons that Link has wielded, including the Master Sword.
However, without magic, most of Link’s weapons will be ineffective, accomplishing a minor drain on Eragon’s stamina at best, and it is exceedingly unlikely that Link will be able to tire Eragon out before the Dragon Rider destroys him with powerful magic. ST Link simply does not seem to be adequately equipped for a batlte like this, and at close range, Eragon’s superhuman speed and strength would be as dangerous as his magic.
Admin, since Eragon has all of his powers except the death words, can we have the Link in this battle be one of the stronger incarnations, like ALttP/LA Link or OoT/MM Link, so he at least stands a chance?
Quick question..
Do any links have protection over their mind? Because if not then Eragon can walk into his mind tell him to kill himself. Oh and I mean serious protection…Eragons quite good at that shit.
Couldn’t link just go to put on the Fierce Deity’s mask and take the liberty of laying the pain on Eragon[hopefully without it coming to killing Eragon or Saphira, outright!] in that state?
“CLEARLY we should wait for Negative Zero’s expertiese on this subject.
..nyuk nyuk nyul”
Well I saw the movie Eragon and I just remember him using a few spells and riding a dragon…thats about it. As for the fight I don’t think ST Link would be very effective. Heres a list of how all the Link’s chances are of winning.
LoZ/AoL Link- Pretty good chance of winning.
ALttP/LA- Also pretty good.
OoT/MM/TP Link(yes I count TP Link as the same. I have my reasons.)- High chance of winning.
OoA/OoS Link- I never played the Oracles games but I heard hes not that strong.
WW/PH Link- High Chance of winning.
ST Link- Low chance of winning.
SS Link- I can’t predict the future so I don’t know.
If I forgot to list any other Links then let me know.
“Even if Skyward Sword came out, if it canonicly happens before Spirit Tracks, or Twilight Princess, then that means ST is still the current incarnation.”
Actually if we go by this rule then every Link fight will have to be redebated using either LoZ/AoL Link or Oracles Link exclusively. Right now, as I understand it, the “Current” Link is whatever Link stars in the most recently released Zelda game.
You don’t want to pit Eragon against LoZ/AoL Link; he has extremely powerful spells including a polymorphic spell and a high damage, undodgable, instant hit spell, and he has the Magic Rod and Silver Arrows. He is generally considered to be within the top 3 most powerful Links for this kind of debate.
Oracles Link is a pushover though. No spells and all tools… He has got some tricks but not much.
“OoT/MM/TP Link(yes I count TP Link as the same. I have my reasons.)- High chance of winning.”
I don’t know why you would count them as one person as TP happens litterally hundreds of years after OoT and TP Link is stated to be a brand new Link. Not to mention that it is heavily implied that the Hero’s Spirit, that teaches TP Link, is OoT/MM Link.
You forgot Four Sword/Four Sword Adventures Link and Minish Cap Link. FS/FSA Link can be either fairly weak or almost identical to LttP/LA Link depending on whether you allow him the hyperspace arsenal that all of the other Links have (This particular Link never carried more than one special item with him per clone contrasted to all of the other Links that carry everything all the time). MC Link is, hmm, okay. Nothing extrodinary in the tools department save Light Arrows (that must be charged before hand), and no special spells. Oracles Link might be able to take him due to having a tool for every occasion, but MC Link really isn’t weak either.
Actually I don’t think anybody (myself included) gives Oracles Link enough credit in vs matches. He has more tools than any other Link and he has 64 magical Rings (he can only hold up to 5 on his person though) that give him various boosts. He is quite versital, but he just can’t fight in slugging matches like other Links do. But the basic priciple still applies: Magic > Tech, and that is where Oracles Link suffers. He easily had the neatest toys though. I loved the Magnetic Glove.
@Origional A
Thanks for reminding me about FS Link. I KNEW I was forgetting one. You say that LoZ/AoL Link has an instant hit spell? Thats what I’ve been saying on the Link vs Sora thread but Tyler, Envoy, and Reality Effect don’t see it that way. As for TP Link I’ll tell you why I consider him to be OoT/MM Link.
1. I read in a REALLY old magizine that TP takes place 10 years after OoT.
2. A lot of situations and locations in TP were taken from OoT.(EX- Zora’s domain being frozen)
3. TP Link has the same horse from OoT. I know that Link and Zelda get reincarnated throughout the ages but I HIGHLY doubt that the gods would reincarnate a freakin’ horse.
4. Link starts out in TP with the Triforce already on his hand.
5. When Zelda meets Link for the first time in TP she didn’t freak out like she usually does.
6. In the Super Smash Brothers Dojo when you read the info on Shiek it says that her updated look was taken from old concept art to be used in TP. Now seeing as how OoT Zelda was the only one to turn into Shiek and seeing as how Zelda was origionally going to turn into Shiek in TP then that can ONLY mean that OoT and TP Zelda are the same and that would apply to Link as well.
I have more reasons but it could take a while.
okay, most of you have only seen the movie which was crap compared to the books. and as for it being the “newest link” i thought it was when a character was at their strongest? idk. but i know that eragon has insanely fast sword skills. but link’s shield may be able to deflect a lot of them. saphira and navi are outside help. link has a lot of powerful spells but eragon has more precise spells with same power. taking out death word spells, eragon still has wards and almost definitely has more magic energy than link. but i know that they would both be resistant to magic. but i don’t know how well eragon, or his wards would stand against the master sword or link’s more powerful items.
yes i am arguing for both sides because i want to see some good arguments from both sides from other people
Does anybody want to hear my opinion on the timeline for The Legend of Zelda?
“Does anybody want to hear my opinion on the timeline for The Legend of Zelda?”
So…..does anybody?!?
“1. I read in a REALLY old magizine that TP takes place 10 years after OoT.”
From an interview with Eiji Aonuma, the word of god of all things Zelda.
“–When does Twilight Princess take place?
Aonuma: In the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years later.”
Now I ask you, which is a more reliable source: Some old magazine, or the guy who created the game?
“2. A lot of situations and locations in TP were taken from OoT.(EX- Zora’s domain being frozen)”
Yes, because similiar situations cannot possible be repeated. And you are completely overlooking the state of the Temple of Time, which it and the whole of Castle Town was completely retaken by the forest. That takes dacades to happen. It is even refered to as the Ancient and Sacred Grove rather than the Temple of Time and Castle Town.
“3. TP Link has the same horse from OoT. I know that Link and Zelda get reincarnated throughout the ages but I HIGHLY doubt that the gods would reincarnate a freakin’ horse.”
Oracles Link also has Epona. As does Minish Cap Link, and FSA Link. Epona reincarnates, dude.
“4. Link starts out in TP with the Triforce already on his hand.”
As does Oracles Link. During AoL, Link also had the Triforce randomly appear on his hand.
“5. When Zelda meets Link for the first time in TP she didn’t freak out like she usually does.”
When has Zelda ever freaked out by meating Link? Aside from that, she knew Midna and saw Midna riding Link. She probably assumed, correctly, that Wolf Link was an ally of Midna. And we know that the Triforce of Wisdom can grant clairvoiance to the holder so it is possible she foresaw that meeting anyways.
“6. In the Super Smash Brothers Dojo when you read the info on Shiek it says that her updated look was taken from old concept art to be used in TP. Now seeing as how OoT Zelda was the only one to turn into Shiek and seeing as how Zelda was origionally going to turn into Shiek in TP then that can ONLY mean that OoT and TP Zelda are the same and that would apply to Link as well.”
The SSB series is non-canon to all but itself. Just because the developers toyed with an idea previously doesn’t mean that it is canon after it was scrapped from game proper. You don’t know the context behind TP Sheik. It could simply be that in a previous idea of the game TP Zelda (not being OoT Zelda) knew the Sheik transformation spell.
“Does anybody want to hear my opinion on the timeline for The Legend of Zelda?”
NO!!
@Origional A
Miyamota was the creator of The Legend of Zelda not Eiji. Besides everybody has there own opinions on the timeline but for factpile’s sake I will count TP Link as a seperate Link.
@Chucky Boy
I was asking people that actually matter on this site. By the way make up your mind as to what to call yourself!!!!
@Negative Fag
i do matter on this site you bastard
-jesus christ is in heaven
But Miyamoto didn’t create Twilight Princess. Additionally Eiji Aunoma is one of the few individuals that is privy to the official Zelda Timeline, the timeline that only himself, Miyamoto, and “the director of a particular zelda game” has access to.
That and he has been in charge of developing the Zelda series since Majora’s Mask.
@Negative Fag
i do matter on this site you bastard
@Negative Zero:
You should start up a topic in the Nintendo section of FactPileTopia if you want to talk about the Zelda Timeline. I’m sure I’ll find it fascinating, and I’ll share my ideas on it with you too.
@Origional A
I don’t know how to start topics. I just wanted to see if anybody was interested in my version of the timeline.
Go to the Nintendo Section in the Video Game area of the ‘Topia and at the bottom of the page there is a New Topic button. Click it, put in a thread subject (probably something simple like Zelda Timeline) and your post/comment, and hit submit.
@Origional A
Thanks.
I don’t really want to start a whole topic on the subject though. I just have the urge to put my timeline somewhere. So here it goes.
Skyward Sword
Ocarina of Time
Majora’s Mask
Twilight Princess
The Minish Cap
Four Swords/Four Swords Adventures
Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons
A Link to the Past
Link’s Awakening
The Legend of Zelda
Adventure of Link
The Wind Waker
Phantom Hourglass
Spirit Tracks
I think this seems like a reasonalbe timeline.
I’ve created a Zelda Timeline thread in the Topia, and I invite you Negative Zero to discuss this further there. I’m quite interested in your timeline as it seems to be a single timeline instead of split timeline like most theories are now, and I would like to know your reasons behind that. Please respond to this post in the Zelda Timeline thread:
factpiletopia.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1368
@Origional A
I’ve posted a reply comment but it has to be approved first. Anyway I’m don’t really believe in the split timeline theory. Its WAY too confusing. I like to keep mine simple and easier to follow.
Before I go I just want to say that I think the hero’s spirit is actually Skyward Sword Link. I say this because OoT/MM Link didn’t even use any of the hidden skills and in the trailer for Skyward Sword you can see Link using the shield attack. Just watch and you’ll see.
www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda14-skyward-sword.php
You can make articles on the topia? Well then, know I have something to do in my bored as hell time.
Right so would I be correct in thinking that we dont really know which Link is current?
Right so would I be correct in thinking that we don’t really know which Link is current?
“You can make articles on the topia? Well then, know I have something to do in my bored as hell time.”
Gee…I wonder how the other threads got there…
Right now, this moment, Spirit Tracks Link is the current as that was the most recent game to be released for sale.
Skyward Sword is set to release some time in 2011, so ST Link will be the incarnation we will use for at least the next 3 and a half months.
easy. Eragon wins. Eragon has got plate armour, superhuman strength and speed, spells that can kill instantly, bow skills, fireballs, a magic sword and a dragon.
Link has faerie magic. Yay.
Eragon.
@aceofqueens
That dragon is outside help so….yay. You actually think Link uses faries for EVERYTHING?!? You obviously never played a Legend of Zelda game.
I can’t really see ST Link winning this fight so I’ll just list the best things that each Link brings to the party.
LoZ/AoL Link:
Magic Sword
Magic Shield
Blue Ring
Magician Rod
Silver Arrows
Thunder Spell
Shield Spell
Spell Spell
Life Spell
Fire Spell
ALttP/LA Link:
Master Sword
Silver Arrows
Magic Cape
Cane of Byrna
Cane of Somaria
Pegasus Boots
Titan Mitts
Red Mail
Bombos Medallian
Ether Medallian
Quake Medallian
Mirror Shield
Super Bombs
Magic Powder
Magic Rod
Roc’s Feather
OoT/MM Link:
Master Sword
Mirror Shield
Fire Arrows
Ice Arrows
Light Arrows
Golden Gauntlets
Lens of Truth
Nayru’s Love
Din’s Fire
Megaton Hammer
Chatue Romani
Fierce Deity Mask
FS/FSA Link:
All I know is that his Four Sword can clone him and it holds hundereds of fairies.
OoA/OoS Link:
I heard he has a lot of non magical items.
MC Link:
Four Sword
Pegasus Boots
Mole Mitts
Roc’s Cape
Power Bracelets
Skull Hammer
ST Link:
Lokomo Sword
Snake Whip
Whirlwind
Bow of Light
Sand Wand
Elemental Boomerang
Swordsmen’s Scrolls
Well I’ve gave some solid info here.
TP Link:
Master Sword
Magic Armor
Bomb Arrows
Hidden Skills
Natural Superhuman Strength
Double Clawshots
Bomblings
Ball and Chain
Gale Boomerang
Fairie’s Tears
Golden Chu Jelly
WW/PH Link:
Master Sword
Phantom Sword
Mirror Shield
Magic Armor
Fire Arrows
Ice Arrows
Light Arrows
Grappling Hook
Power Bracelets
Well I can’t really be too hard ST Link. After all, ST had some pretty catchy music(and thats coming from somebody that doesn’t even like music). Heres a pretty catchy ST tune.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI43UCwIj4Q
Would anybody object to Richard Rhal vs Zant?
So……nobody wants to talk about anything?
@Negative Zero
Admin would post it, after about a week…
@Rorschach
I know…..it just sounds like such a good match. So what did you think of that song from ST? Pretty catchy huh?
“OoA/OoS Link:
I heard he has a lot of non magical items.”
Bombchus (remote guided bombs)
Master Sword
BiggoronSword (Bigger than OoT’s version, this one is twice Link’s size!)
Bomb Arrows (LttP/LA Link also has these in LA)
Switch Hook/Long Switch (a hookshot like tool that switches the places of the weilder and target)
Magnetic Glove (a powerful magnet that can support Link’s entire weight)
Seed Shooter (semi-auto hand gun that shoots seeds and can bounce them off walls)
Hyper Slingshot (a slingshot that can shoot up to three seeds at a time in a spreading pattern)
Seeds
– Fire seeds (burns things)
– Scent seeds (attracts monsters; also hurts like hell when the hit stuff)
– Pegasus Seeds (either speeds Link up or stops enemies, it depends on how Link uses them)
– Gale Seeds (mini tornados with enough power to lift a monster or Link high into the air, like 100 + feet high; double as the Oracle games’ warp system)
– Myster Seeds (random effect from the above and one of the big bads is weak to them)
Roc’s Cape (jump and glide)
Magic Boomerang (remote controled boomerang)
Cane of Somaria
Power Glove (super human lifting strength)
Rod of Season (changes the season)
Harp of Ages (travel through time in 100 year leaps; activate time portals)
He can also carry up to 5 magical rings at a time, but only wear one at any given moment. Generally useful ring effects include:
double attack power
double defense power
quick spin attach charge
increase boomerang attack power
double spin attack
unarmed combat (Oracles Link is fairly good at boxing; this ring allows the player to take advantage of that)
no damage from electrical based attacks
a noticable healing factor
There are a bunch of situations, gag, and useless rings too.
He isn’t bad, just usually outclassed by his other incarnations and their spells. He would have to fight more with his mind and set traps up with his tools rather than slap on the invulnerbility armor and charge ahead, or spell spam till the enemy is dead.
@Origional A
I’m never going to underestimate OoA/OoS Link ever again after seeing all those items.
I didn’t listen to it, as I am listening to Requiem for a Dream and Navras…
@Rorschach
If you do listen to it then you better prepare yourself for a blast of Irishness.
@Origional A
I just noticed but did you say that Oracles had a freakin’ handgun?!? Now I’m REALLY never going to underestimate Oracles Link ever again!!!
“Well I saw the movie Eragon and I just remember him using a few spells and riding a dragon…thats about it.”
The movie isn’t really canon… because well it was shit. They only got a few things right:
Basic (and I can’t put a great enough emphasis on basic) story line – Arya sends Eragon Saphira, the Razac kill Garrow, Brom and Eragon leave for… well not even *that* was right. That movie was shit.
The main characters they didn’t get right:
Eragon (Eragon is a poor farmer, not a poor farmer who can afford hair stylings and shiny leather clothes)
Saphira (Saphira couldn’t talk until she was vastly older, she didn’t just fly into the clouds then flash blue and be suddenly massive)
Brom (Brom is your basic wizard/guide from fantasy novels – old, long beard, tattered clothes, etc. not youngish, stylish goatee, expensive leather clothes)
Arya (Arya is your average Elf with stunning and intoxicating features and brown hair (the only oddity concerning elves) – not an anorexic blonde)
The Razac (The Razac are a bird-like race with beaks, high-pitched voices, and super human abilities, not mummies with bugs crawling up their asses)
The only main characters they DID get right, though not because they did somthing right but because they hardly even included them, are
Ajihad
Jormundir
Murtagh
The most accurately (really the only) character in the movie is Durza. But RObert Carlyle portrayed him poorly.
ANd besides, Eragon is two books ahead of that portrayal anyways.
DONT get me going on that movie. If I was Paolini, I would sue Fox for butchering it so.
@ eric:
you know that’s right
“I just noticed but did you say that Oracles had a freakin’ handgun?!? Now I’m REALLY never going to underestimate Oracles Link ever again!!!”
It is a hand gun in that it is a single-hand-held device capable of propelling small seeds at a harmful velocity through an unknown mechanical means (but it isn’t magic, nor elastic like a slingshot, nor chemicals like gun powder).
This is the device in question:
www.zeldawiki.org/Seed_Shooter
As its name suggest, it shoots seeds. It is still a leathal weapon though, because if you noticed, its ammo include fire seeds which turns this thing till their ash, so this weapon could be considered a very small scale incidinary launcher (no spalsh damage) that can hit stuff around corners. Normally though I use the Scent Seeds, which are launched at a velocity sufficent to cause significant harm to a target.
In reality it is very comparable to a slingshot in terms of launching power, but it is very much so a gun in that you aim it and pull the trigger and the machine itself handles the work to fire the projectile. This is currently the only known man portable projectile weapon that does not rely on the user’s own strength to fire in all of the Zelda series.
There is a reason I keep saying Oracles Link has all of the coolest toys (TP Link’s Spinner notwithstanding, but Oracles Link has the magnet glove and switch hook too, and those are just too cool!)
I’m in total agreement with you Eric, I loved the books but the film, dear god how was that even allowed to have the same name on it?
About the debate, do we agree that this “ST” Link would be beaten? If so what Link are we comparing next?
On a side note I like the idea of link running round with a handgun.
@Origional A
I’d like to see Link dual wield Seed Shooters.
Isn’t the current incarnation of Eragon the weaker one from the movies?
@negative zero and rorschach
The song you posted zero is pretty catchy. . .And requiem for a dream is like my all time favourite piece of music.
@overlord
Spirit Tracks has other catchy songs if you want to hear them.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJhMQUEjEds&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZc0LVnn1o4&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSHR9qL2w0M&feature=channel
@overlord
So do you like them?
“Isn’t the current incarnation of Eragon the weaker one from the movies?”
So…am I right?
Very zeldaish. . .me likey. Can’t answer your question cause my knowledge on eragon is about as rusty as the banhammer.
No, Movie Eragon is a seperate universe from the Book Eragon. Unless the specific version of Eragon is stated to be in the fight, we rip characters from their original canon; in Eragon’s case it is the books.
We keep changing Links, sometimes even several times during a debate, because in his original canon (the Zelda game series) the current Link is a new person every other game (no single instance of Link has conclusively stared in more than two games, save CD-i Link, but he is non-canon). This is something that happens within the universe. Movie Eragon is not in the same universe as Book Eragon, so we don’t swap them out.
@overlord
Theres even MORE catchy songs in Spirit Tracks but I might post them tomorrow…or later. Who knows.
Origional A
Thanks for clearing that up. If thats the case then ST Link probably won’t win.
@originaIA
True, my knowledge used to cover vast extents of the eragon book universe, not the movie. They should specify which link to use. . .
@overlord
Unless its speccified we use the current incarnation of Link….which unfourtunately doesn’t really have a good chance.
@overlord
Here are some more ST songs.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_bFLwB0WY&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJdJTHcawdI&feature=channel
Just thought I’d say that I’m finally playing Phantom Hourglass. My friend let me borrow it…..but he left the stylus out of the DS….fuck. Anyway I didn’t want to scratch or smuge his DS so I was reduced to using the touch screen with a Q-tip.
@overlord
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPphD0Offt0
Listen to that, and tell me what you think… Free for anyone else also, but I just recently heard Requiem for a Dream, and cannot stop thinking about both!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwU