Monster Hunter Vs Spartan

Monster Hunter Vs Spartan

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Here we have an old school style match.

A Monster Hunter from that franchise against a Spartan soldier.

Who would win?

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76 Comments on "Monster Hunter Vs Spartan"

  1. jwlynas May 13, 2010 at 7:50 am -      #1

    Depends what you consider a standard load for the monster hunter.

    If he brings the rifle, bow, greatsword or Gunlance, the spartan is screwed. Otherwise it could go either way.

    Bearing in mind that, however tough the spartan is, the Monster hunter does hunt Dragons for a living so he’s fairly tough himself.

  2. Cargo May 13, 2010 at 7:54 am -      #2

    Killing dragons makes should make you tough as hell so I’m leaning more towards the hunter for this round.

  3. orber May 13, 2010 at 8:54 am -      #3

    it really depends on the monster hunter.

    sure killing dragons and leviathans makes you a tough and respected guy, but let us not forget that there is a pretty big differences when comparing 2 warriors well known with the way of their weapon or man vs beast.

    not saying that monsterhunters are crappy warriors not at all.just different then spartans.but im pretty sure a spartan can outperform a rookie/medium skilled hunter.

    against a expert monsterhunter it becomes a problem.expert monster hunters make their armor from the beasts they slay.this functions as a trophy to brag about but also its very good armor.infact it proberly outperforms the best armors ever made by mankind.spartan weaponry who are made with realistic materials will simply bounce off.

    the spartans only chance is too look for the weak spots in these armors.only that is hard when you are up against a mansized blade a hammer a switchaxe or even guns/gunlances.

  4. DivineChaos88 May 13, 2010 at 10:23 am -      #4

    The Monster Hunter survives anything that hits him. The armor is overall superior to spartan armor as well. The Spartan’s best chance is his greatest strength, his shield, but I don’t see him pulling through here.

  5. Random guy May 13, 2010 at 1:45 pm -      #5

    Depends on if they fight in sparta or not. If yes then “THIS-IS-SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!”

  6. Belisaurius May 13, 2010 at 2:24 pm -      #6

    Imagine what a great sword would do to a bronze shield.

  7. orber May 13, 2010 at 2:50 pm -      #7

    spartans might block greatsword and hammer blows.but if they do this they will atleast stagger severily and at worst break their arm.a heavy gun or gunlance will proberly pierce it.

    spartans best option infact is his mobility advantage.monsterhunters with great weapons like greatswords hammers heavy guns heavy lances loose lots of speed and mobility with those weapons but they still wield them with expertise and can pull of some really suprising and swift combo’s despite their weapons size.

    if this is a monster hunter with a lighter weapon like sword&shield i do not see the hunter winning.the hunter might have better armor but the spartan will spot and exploit the weak joints it has.

  8. Blacksun2175 May 13, 2010 at 8:06 pm -      #8

    @Spartan Wankers

    While the spartans were beast, they are no match for a monster hunter.

    Monster hunters have superior strength and Durability, they can get trampled stomped and beaten by monsters that can weigh up to 100 tons or MORE, Fall off cliffs that are at least 50 feet high and survive without injury(with or without armor), Stand near flowing lava and exploring volcanic zones without armor (albeit for a limited time, somthing that would kill a normal human)

    The spartans use Bronze armor and weapons while the Monster Hunters use steel and monster parts, some of which are said to shred steel or have elemental properties(like fire and thunder) which would be bad for the spartans..

    Steel>>>>>>>>>>>>Bronze, it’s a fact.

  9. Himmler May 13, 2010 at 8:40 pm -      #9

    300 spartan or real?

  10. Justhuman May 13, 2010 at 10:36 pm -      #10

    That spartan is from Spartan Total Warrior, a pretty kickass game.

  11. Johnnyquest May 13, 2010 at 11:41 pm -      #11

    This seems like a bit of an even duel.

  12. Blacksun2175 May 14, 2010 at 12:54 am -      #12

    @Johnnyquest.

    Assuming an (MH)iron sword was 6×2 feet, it would literally weigh in excess of five hundred pounds, meaning that your average monster hunter would have to be stronger than a spartan just to hold it, nevermind actually swing it.

    Also read above, for numerous reasons RL spartans and “300″ spartans are no match for a monster hunter.

  13. orber May 14, 2010 at 4:52 am -      #13

    Blacksun2175 speaks the truth for a part.

    in terms of raw strength a monsterhunter (including females) would outperform a spartan.however read my post 7.

    hunters aren’t too fast while wielding great weapons.and despite that their armor outperforms anything we could make it HAS weak joints.if it didn’t had weakjoints it would mean the hunter would be unable to move.

    i admit hunters are a tough elite breed.even with all that armor, hunters soak up blows that can crush giant boulders like the charge attack that the diablos or barroth does.

    however the spartan is a foe with understanding of weaknesses in armor and can calculate the swordplay of the hunters.this is something entirely different then fighting gigantic monsters.and if the hunter wields a great weapon the spartan really has a mobility advantage you cannot deny that.

    still a direct hit blow of a great weapon is the end of the spartan.it doesn’t matter if he blocks it with his shield or not, the hunters powerfull blows will crush the shield and bones and then proceeds to finish of the spartan.

    a spartan must constantly dodge and try to hit the small weak joints of the hunter.and even if he succeeds the hunter will simply ignore the pain and proceed with doing his swift combo’s like he isn’t hurt at all.

    ow and for the sake of argument keep magical weapons out of it.the hunter already has a unrealistic armor advantage over the spartan.no need to make it worse.

  14. Cpt Olimar May 14, 2010 at 12:46 pm -      #14

    A better match would have been against a Roman soldier, but the result is still the same. The tech difference alone almost guarantees the match, without the typical over-poweredness of characters in video games.

    Although a good match idea at heart, it doesn’t take too much inspection to realize which warrior has the huge upper hand. The Spartan’s only chance would be a pin-point accurate spear throw at a weak joint.

  15. orber May 14, 2010 at 12:55 pm -      #15

    right so a experienced monster hunter finshes of a spartan rather easily.

    a monster hunter with a gunlance wins easy no matter what the situation is.i mean really www.blogmmo.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Gunlance.png no shield or armor is going to block a bullet like that.

    so what do you guys think of a average monsterhunter.one who has some intresting weapons and armor but the spartan still has a good chance of slashing trough it?

  16. Ares May 15, 2010 at 11:21 am -      #16

    While i was watching Deadliest warrior, it showed that the Spartan Shield is the size of the Spartn himself and as for his armor its pretty good and he has it covering most of his body. the shield can also stop a 30-pound block of wood and metal and the Spartan only suffers small recoil damage. I also agree with orber that we should use an Average hunter so that way it’s not a i’m gonna run up to you take barely any damgae and kill you.

  17. Blacksun2175 May 16, 2010 at 10:07 pm -      #17

    @Orber

    Bullshit they aren’t slow

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=URcEggiHNkI

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3wqBrEntk&feature=channel

    The fact that A dual wielder’s can dual wield somthing we would consider a hand and a half sword or twin battleaxes made of steel, means the spartans bronze armor is going to be torn to shreds.

    Also saying we should take away the hunters ability to wield elemental weapons is like taking the spartan’s xiphos away. It’s somthing that Hunters have acess to.

    @Ares

    Spartans were the ELITE warriors of Greece, they were constantly training for battle. Even an “average” Hunter has acess to technology both (materail and offensive) to put the Spartans to shame, nevermind their strength advantage.

  18. orber May 17, 2010 at 3:45 am -      #18

    *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URcEggiHNkI*

    ofcourse for its size the way that hunter wields that switchaxe is no joke.but everything aside the attack pattern of the hunter is so FULL of openings that a trained warrior would have a hard time picking which one to exploit.

    still a hit from hit and its either spartan shield crushed or spartan dead.

    *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3wqBrEntk&feature=channel*

    the longsword.i agree with you here.for its size the hunters wield this one with remarkeble agility and skill.

    note when im talking about great weapons i talk about great swords and those gigantic lances.because to be a fair it might not be practical and require training, but the MH longsword is something a normal human is able to wield.

  19. Blacksun2175 May 17, 2010 at 5:09 am -      #19

    “ofcourse for its size the way that hunter wields that switchaxe is no joke.but everything aside the attack pattern of the hunter is so FULL of openings that a trained warrior would have a hard time picking which one to exploit.”

    Bullshit, while the hunter is swinging that weapon the spartan wouldn’t come close without getting killed.

    “note when im talking about great weapons i talk about great swords and those gigantic lances.because to be a fair it might not be practical and require training,”

    More bullshit, even with a heavy ass weapon like the lanc the hunter would still have the Reach and strength advantage, Again an average hunter has acess to steel, somthing that completely outclasses the Spartans Bronze armor and armaments.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_steel

    “but the MH longsword is something a normal human is able to wield.”
    Bullshit again, assuming that longsword is made of iron it would weigh more than 400lbs based on iron density/weight alone. An average person would not be able to pick that up let alone swing it.

    Also all the weapons you have mentioned are for slaying of Wyverns, they have swords and lances that are much lighter than their dragon slayer counterparts used strictly for deuling, like The twin tomahawks

  20. Blacksun2175 May 17, 2010 at 5:44 am -      #20

    Consider that if an average hunter can get his hands on full plate steel like this:

    www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091205182652/monsterhunter/images/thumb/2/28/MH3-SteelArmor.png/200px-MH3-SteelArmor.png&imgrefurl=http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH3:_Armors&usg=__w8OFKWCtDXp_T2uVHl5eME3Bwag=&h=200&w=200&sz=154&hl=en&start=10&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=k5RX2BglfxSifM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsteel%2Barmor%2B%252B%2Bmonster%2Bhunter%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enUS340US340%26tbs%3Disch:1

    The spartan is going to have a tough time finding a weak spot on that, nevermind actually hurting them with their crappy bronze weapons

    Hell you’re also ignoring that hunter’s have the acess to elemental weapons, hell even the average hunter can buy or forge a elemental sword, dualswords, or longsword.

    So if the Spartan can’t damage the hunter with steel armor or withstand the blows from his massive steel weapons, (nevermind the elemental attributes in said weapons can posses) then this is an unmerciful ROTFLSTOMP for the hunter.

  21. orber May 17, 2010 at 9:25 am -      #21

    *Bullshit, while the hunter is swinging that weapon the spartan wouldn’t come close without getting killed.*

    give a person a keyboard and internet connection and apperently you are a master of melee combat.

    1. while swinging his axe like that the hunter is in a stationary position.i am training in sword combat (still a novice though) but the LAST thing i want to be is forced in a stationary position.

    2.it would be suicide to approach the hunter from the front while he is swinging his axe like that.but his entire backside and his left and right side is a gaping opening screaming exploit me!!!

    3.in order for the hunter to stop swinging like that he needs time and strength.though this is easily argued away with the hunters superior strength.even so time is time.

    the way the hunter swings his weapon like that might scare big monsters but in actual sword combat i would laugh at this unpractical battle stance.

    *More bullshit, even with a heavy ass weapon like the lanc the hunter would still have the Reach and strength advantage,*

    his range is superior no arguing that.his big ass shield make the hunter a damn walking fortress.but again his sides and back is a hole with the sign exploit on it.

    also a lance that big i can predict the moves while poking my nose. a simple sidestep followed by a step foreward and your bigass lance is only a disadvantage.a hunter should solve this by jumping backwards and this would work with normal lances.but against a gigantic lance i can simply also jump forward keeping the hunters weapon totally useless.

    monster hunters fight monsters (oh shit captain obvious arrived).and do monsters know anything about weapons and battle stances?i don’t think so.monsters are stupid.they charge a hunter frontally while he is swinging his axe.monsters fight lance users frontally giving all the advantage to the hunter.you seem to imply that human warriors are just as stupid as monsters.

    *Bullshit again, assuming that longsword is made of iron it would weigh more than 400lbs based on iron*

    are you completely insane???those numbers MIGHT be true for the greatswords but longswords are from what ive seen pretty thin steel.i practice a germanic 2handed sword style and my sword is thicker then a longsword. a longsword from MH is proberly 70-90centimeter longer then my sword.doing basic maths my swords thickness overrules 40centimeter of the longsword.

    my sword weight is 13 kilo (28.6Ibs).a longsword should be heavier because of its length but because it is thinner it should be something close to 24kilo (52.8Ibs) implying the longsword is made of steel as we know it.

    but 400Ibs? get out.

    *Consider that if an average hunter can get his hands on full plate steel like this*

    armor is only a comfort if you are up against a opponent who knows the basic weakpoints.all armor has weakpoints exceptions do not exsist because if a armor has no weakpoints it would be impossible for the person inside of it to move.

    believe me i know it.armor training is part of my training and i dueled against my teacher with armor and it means little if you constantly get flanked.

    *their crappy bronze weapons*

    now this is actully a valid point.i have little idea on how well bronze weaponry would do in penatrating the weak joints of plate armor.weak joints can be covered by chainmail.my sword would make chainmail’s day a shitty day but i can’t say for sure for a bronze sword.i will ask and come back with a answer soon since i got lessons tomorrow.

    *Hell you’re also ignoring that hunter’s have the acess to elemental weapons, hell even the average hunter can buy or forge a elemental sword, dualswords, or longsword.*

    factpile rules may place restrictions on the party’s in play in order to make matches more intresting.don’t agree with it?take it to the admin.

    again about the armor of the MH.i just realized spartan’s are not familiar with full plate armor the hunters have.they might observe it after a time.but time in this case is dodging blows.and the point that 1blow=1kill or atleast incapitated makes this a scary situation for the spartan.

    the easiest kill for the hunter would ofcourse be a gun a gunlance and a longsword.

    guns: no input needed we all know why on how this would kill the spartan.
    longsword: the agility and the fact it is made of actual steel puts the spartan at great disadvantage.winner: hunter

    switchaxe:blocking it is impossible it would break the spartans arm.dodging it is a valid option but hunters can move suprisingly agile with this weapon.also the sudden switch to blademode will suprise the spartan.aslong as the hunter doesn’t start his LOLOLOL SWING SWING SWING battlestance the hunter will have the advantage all time. winner: hunter

    hammer:defence is impossible.hunters can go LOL WHIRLWIND and give the spartan flying lessons.only danger is if the spartan sees the whirlwind attack coming.because even hunters look exhausted and need to gather their strength after that attacks.however hunters can charge up the attack so fast the spartan won’t see it coming. winner: hunter

    greatsword: from what ive seen in monster hunter tri this is proberly the worst weapon choice.each blow is predicteble and solved by basic sidestepping or backstepping.the hunter is open for attacks 75% of the time.a weapon truely designed for killing big stuff.not actual swordcombat. the spartan would perform his sidesteps in a relaxing way while observing the hunter. winner: unkown untill i know bronze weaponry can do something against plate and chainmail.

    great lance:intresting choice.but since the spartan has a mobility advantage and the lance suffers from the same predictebillity issues as the greatsword a dangerous option.basic sidestepping counters the lance and leaves the hunter open.ow and don’t give me the lance charge excuse please.that one is also solved by sidestepping.and the way hunters walk while having the lance and shield in hand is annoyingly slow.only monsters are stupid enough to fall for that lance tricks anyway.winner: unkown for the same reason as greatsword.

    sword and shield and all lighter variants of weaponry: not the best choice but intresting.the strength advantage AND material advantage are a total nightmare for a spartan.spartan training outclasses the hunter.but i fear for the spartan he will be impaled on steel before he manages to exploit any weakness. winner: hunter

    even if i learn that bronze weaponry could hard plate the obvious winner is still a hunter.the reason i still reply to this is because i am highly disagree with your view on how this battle would take place and you implying spartans are as dumb as monsters.

  22. orber May 17, 2010 at 9:30 am -      #22

    *even if i learn that bronze weaponry could hard plate*

    i meant harm plate.

  23. orber May 17, 2010 at 9:38 am -      #23

    -.-

    sorry for the triples every1

    and i forgot to say about my sword that it isn’t a standard sword.mine is somewhat heavier as usual because i enjoy using the weight of it.its a choice i made.

    normal germanic swords (dark ages era) are between 5-10kilo at best.mine is not a standard.ow and i weighted it again and it is 11.9 kilo not 13 sorry for the mis-information.

  24. Darkbladex96 May 17, 2010 at 10:50 am -      #24

    hell im just curious as to what kind of material you have midway thru monster hunter that could very well be the F-U factor.

  25. orber May 17, 2010 at 11:49 am -      #25

    *hell im just curious as to what kind of material you have midway thru monster hunter that could very well be the F-U factor.*

    good point.for all we might now weaponry and armor made of monster material might be lighter and more flexible then other materials like steel.as far as i know however there is no canon info on this so it is mere speculation though it sounds logical.

    even so none of the hunters weaponry weights over 100kilo.the heaviest they got is either the gunlance or greatsword.and im putting those 2 in the 60-70 kilograms.
    hunters are strong but not superhuman.the only superhuman thing they show is their toughness.i mean getting hit by a full frontal charge of a diablos and standing up like nothing happens is VERY impressive.

    ow and their stamina is superhuman.i could lift a greatsword aswell if i put all my strength in it and swing it too.but after 1 swing i would be exhausted lol.

  26. Darkbladex96 May 17, 2010 at 12:52 pm -      #26

    well from what i know metal and the like that we can actually compare are pathetically low teir in MH.

    hell an Average MH could have Damascus armor or Ingot armor, both several magnitudes above steel.

    and for stamina i also believe the hunters are ridiculous they can hold thier breath for like 10 minutes.

  27. Blacksun2175 May 17, 2010 at 11:18 pm -      #27

    1. The hunter can easily perform a backswing as seen on the video. So cut the bullshit.
    Again you ignore the evidence provided, monster hunters don’t use those heavy ass weapons to duel, so it’s a moot point.

    2.Asssuming he wouldn’t perform a backslash or roll out of the way(they can roll several feet in a second and be back to a fighting stance in full armor.) and restart an attack.Again spartan weapons arent going to penetrate platemail.No matter how you wank the spartans training.

    3.They can roll and dodge from an attack in an istant, literally going from an attack to a dodge as seen in the lonsword video.

    “the way the hunter swings his weapon like that might scare big monsters but in actual sword combat i would laugh at this unpractical battle stance.”
    Yeah like fighting a dragon is the same as fighting a human, cut the crap.
    “his range is superior no arguing that.his big ass shield make the hunter a damn walking fortress.but again his sides and back is a hole with the sign exploit on it.”
    Range, concession accepted, One of the reasons the spear is deadly is because of it’s range, a hunter can keep a spartan away at longer distances and attack at a longer distance.
    “also a lance that big i can predict the moves while poking my nose. a simple sidestep followed by a step foreward and your bigass lance is only a disadvantage.a hunter should solve this by jumping backwards and this would work with normal lances.but against a gigantic lance i can simply also jump forward keeping the hunters weapon totally useless.”
    Since you have shitty bronze weapons you still can’t harm the hunter, you will also get tired before he does.
    “monster hunters fight monsters (oh shit captain obvious arrived).and do monsters know anything about weapons and battle stances?i don’t think so.monsters are stupid.they charge a hunter frontally while he is swinging his axe.monsters fight lance users frontally giving all the advantage to the hunter.you seem to imply that human warriors are just as stupid as monsters.”
    Spare me the bullshit, like I said hunter’s also duel on another using smaller weapons like the guild weapons, they game specialy state those are for dueling.

  28. Blacksun2175 May 17, 2010 at 11:19 pm -      #28

    “are you completely insane???those numbers MIGHT be true for the greatswords but longswords are from what ive seen pretty thin steel.i practice a germanic 2handed sword style and my sword is thicker then a longsword. a longsword from MH is proberly 70-90centimeter longer then my sword.doing basic maths my swords thickness overrules 40centimeter of the longsword.
    my sword weight is 13 kilo (28.6Ibs).a longsword should be heavier because of its length but because it is thinner it should be something close to 24kilo (52.8Ibs) implying the longsword is made of steel as we know it.
    but 400Ibs? get out.”
    Bullshit, assuming a hunter is 5-8″ those lonswords (just the blade) would be in excess of 6 feet. the Blade is at least 3 inches across and at least an inch thick.Iron has a density of 450 lbs per cubic foot.Pwned.
    “armor is only a comfort if you are up against a opponent who knows the basic weakpoints.all armor has weakpoints exceptions do not exsist because if a armor has no weakpoints it would be impossible for the person inside of it to move.”
    Said aromor is still amde out of steel(a weak armor) Bronze is going to snap due to it’s brittleness compared to steel plate(one of the reasons The Romans kicked the spartans ass, good ol carbon sttel.)
    “believe me i know it.armor training is part of my training and i dueled against my teacher with armor and it means little if you constantly get flanked.”
    It also means little when going up against bronze weapons.You’re also assuming a hunter is going to bring a monster slaying weapon to a duel, when we know they utilize thinner(relative) blades and different martial arts to fight humans in a duel.
    “now this is actully a valid point.i have little idea on how well bronze weaponry would do in penatrating the weak joints of plate armor.weak joints can be covered by chainmail.my sword would make chainmail’s day a shitty day but i can’t say for sure for a bronze sword.i will ask and come back with a answer soon since i got lessons tomorrow.”
    Hunters wear mail wether it be scale or chain/ring mail underneath the plate(even lower armors like the alloy armor have parts covering the joints like epalettes(SP?))
    Bronze is shitty when compared to steel, that’s why cultures employing steel conquered bronze age cultures, like the Roman’s fist rape of the Spartans, the spartans couldn’t adapt to the omans (OMG stabbing over our shields) LOL
    The spartans were too indoctrinated with the Phalanx and the romans ingenuity(LOL stabbing higher) completely took the spartan’s by suprise and led them to victory.

  29. Blacksun2175 May 17, 2010 at 11:20 pm -      #29

    “factpile rules may place restrictions on the party’s in play in order to make matches more intresting.don’t agree with it?take it to the admin.”
    It wasn’t specified in they aren’t allowed acess to said elemental weapons(which I might add is within the hunter’s technology to make) If they are allowed, the spartan is more fucked than he was against steel. LOL
    “again about the armor of the MH.i just realized spartan’s are not familiar with full plate armor the hunters have.they might observe it after a time.but time in this case is dodging blows.and the point that 1blow=1kill or atleast incapitated makes this a scary situation for the spartan.
    the easiest kill for the hunter would ofcourse be a gun a gunlance and a longsword.”
    Of course they ween’t familiar with full plate it was a technology of the steel age, not the bronze age.
    The also have sword and shields and dual wielding weapons made of steel if a hunter notices that the spartn is relying too heavily on his shiled then the can do what the romans did(LOL bronze? stab over the shield.)
    “guns: no input needed we all know why on how this would kill the spartan.
    longsword: the agility and the fact it is made of actual steel puts the spartan at great disadvantage.winner: hunter”
    Concession accepted, a culture that can manufacture firearms will always destroy a civilization who lacks them, example how the samurai were wiped out by modern concepts like guns.
    “switchaxe:blocking it is impossible it would break the spartans arm.dodging it is a valid option but hunters can move suprisingly agile with this weapon.also the sudden switch to blademode will suprise the spartan.aslong as the hunter doesn’t start his LOLOLOL SWING SWING SWING battlestance the hunter will have the advantage all time. winner: hunter”
    Concession accepted, the swing stance is for downed wyvern opponents but could easily be used to keep a person at bay, also switch axes can have elemental attacks, which the spartan has no defense against.

  30. Blacksun2175 May 17, 2010 at 11:26 pm -      #30

    “Hammer greatsword lance sword&shield-snip-”
    “even if i learn that bronze weaponry could hard plate the obvious winner is still a hunter.the reason i still reply to this is because i am highly disagree with your view on how this battle would take place and you implying spartans are as dumb as monsters.”
    Bronze snaps against steel, it’s why humanity abandoned it in favor of steel.
    I never once said Spartans were dumb, I said they had crappy weapons and relied too much on the Phalanx which was their eventual downfall against the Romans(that and steel)

    Concession accepted.

    @Darkbladex96
    Hell midway through the Game you get acess to alloys far stronger than steel, like Machalite steel, Dragonite steel, and Carbalite steel, increasing strength sharpness and durability in that order.
    You also can aquire weapons that can generate flames and lightning. Like He saw slicers, Dual chainsaw blades that emit lightning on contact. LOL

  31. Blacksun2175 May 17, 2010 at 11:28 pm -      #31

    Ghetto edit:

    The Saw slicer blades

  32. Laharl May 17, 2010 at 11:50 pm -      #32

    C-C-C-C-C-Combo breaker!!!!!!

  33. orber May 18, 2010 at 4:42 am -      #33

    *1. The hunter can easily perform a backswing as seen on the video. So cut the bullshit.
    Again you ignore the evidence provided, monster hunters don’t use those heavy ass weapons to duel, so it’s a moot point.*

    a backswing from that position is easily predicted.
    also take into consideration that here on Factpile we discuss many details.i am implying that the hunter has both acces to great weapons and normal weaponry.

    *way(they can roll several feet in a second and be back to a fighting stance in full armor.)*

    except that in actual sword combat.things like rolling only happen in videogames in movies.using a roll move in order to evade did happen in realistic times but it is rarely practical.

    1.once you start rolling the enemy has a easy time predicting where you will end up.
    2.once you start rolling you are locked in that position untill you finish your roll.that is not a desireble position.
    3.after a roll you need to stand up and regain a usefull battle stance suiting the current situation giving more time to the enemy.
    4.rolling if you are wearing any form of armor is a total bitch.
    5.rolling rarely gives you a advantage.i mean yeh you roll to my side?so i now do a sidestep backwards away from you and attack you at the moment you are trying to regain balance…thx for the easy win.
    6.the above is ofcourse countered by rolling away from me.but then?i simply chase you by performing more effective steps.and rolling requires a hell of a lot more energy then basic stepping.

    they teached my how to roll at the lessons some time ago.but i never used it once after that.

    the only use for rolling is for desperate dodging or if you forced your enemy in a bad position and for some unlogical reason you roll to his exposed side and stab at that, while you could simply be stepping to his side to finish it.

    ofcourse the hunters have the rules of videogames with them so their rolling is effective on a inhuman scale.

    *Bullshit, assuming a hunter is 5-8″ those lonswords (just the blade) would be in excess of 6 feet. the Blade is at least 3 inches across and at least an inch thick.Iron has a density of 450 lbs per cubic foot.P*

    lets assume the hunters are a superior breed of humans.so males are 6.5feet big and females 6.1 feet.if you would put the longsword next to the hunter size wise i make a rough calculation that the longsword is 7.5/8 feet.

    lets go to the real world.

    the biggest sword ever found IRL whas 5.4 feet big.the sword whas not only very long but also thick.it whas obvious that this sword whas meant for crushing and cleaving armors with a distance and weight advantage.

    just so you know these swords where thicker then longswords from MH.

    anyway to the point.even despite that the longsword is longer then the sword i just mentioned the thickness should compensate.you know how much those 5.4 feet swords weighted? 28-35 kilo MAXIMUM.i don’t know with what kind of steel longswords in MH are made of.but i won’t be amazed if that steel is called super-unpractical-bullshit steel.

    in all honesty using your logic a average germanic sword from the dark ages should weigh atleast 25 kilo.but like i said average germanic swords(2handed) where 5-10 kilo at best.

    ow just for your info those big swords are very rare and the discipline of it died out very fast because they wherent actully usefull in war.

    *It wasn’t specified in they aren’t allowed acess to said elemental weapons(which I might add is within the hunter’s technology to make) If they are allowed, the spartan is more fucked than he was against steel. LOL*

    ofcourse spartan would be obviously fucked if elementals where allowed in this match.but even without it a spartan would loose.just like guns there is little to argue about regarding elemental weaponry.so we might aswell disregard it.

    *I never once said Spartans were dumb*

    true but you gave me that impression by saying stuff like:
    *Bullshit, while the hunter is swinging that weapon the spartan wouldn’t come close without getting killed*

    this gave me the impression you where assuming a spartan would be dumb enough to approach a switch axe from the front while the hunter would be swinging it.while it is obvious sidestepping counters this stance.

    but anyway it matters not.

    i asked about the bronze weaponry.bronze weaponry isn’t really a good choice indeed against plate armor.however weak joints are weak joints and can even be exploited with bronze HOWEVER a spartan would need such incredible precision and his strike needs to be perfectly balanced if he wants to do any damage at all.and implying that a hunter somewhat shields his weakjoints with a mail any damage done will be utter minimal.

  34. orber May 18, 2010 at 9:03 am -      #34

    forgot to add this.

    now that IMO all details have been properly discussed i now give my permanent vote for monster hunter as the winner.

  35. orber May 18, 2010 at 11:44 am -      #35

    *lets go to the real world.

    the biggest sword ever found IRL whas 5.4 feet big.the sword whas not only very long but also thick.it whas obvious that this sword whas meant for crushing and cleaving armors with a distance and weight advantage*

    i stand corrected.

    claymore swords are bigger then this.there are claymore swords well over 6 feet big.

    intresting facts about claymore.

    claymore’s are a type of sword that started their exsistance in late 15th century early 16th century.claymore’s where the product of superior forging methods.the steel of a claymore whas strong and cleanly forged allowing the blade to reach mansize sizes.

    many people think OMFG DIS SWORD IS SO BIG IT MUST BE UBER HEAVY!!!

    wrong very wrong.the claymore is the most balanced 2handed sword in exsistance.its size may look like a curse but its a blessing.the perfect balance of weight allows for superior balance during combat and believe it or not…it is a suiteble blade for swift strikes.

    now comes the fun part.the debunking of your 400 Ibs bullshit

    a 6 feet claymore which is 3.5 inch wide and 1 inch thick weights…..4.3 kilo which is only 9.3 Ibs.and the claymore has sizes that come close to a MH longsword as you can see.

    so big yet so light.the answer is the forging technique used.the monster hunter universe has guns so they are well beyond the 15th century.so any flaws in forging technique’s which may make the blade heavier/less balanced should be gone.

    now that i readed on this monster hunter greater weapons aren’t really THAT impressive in weight.only the gunlance would be a really heavy thing because it got a entire firing mechanism in it and stuff.and perhaps the greatsword.not because it is UBER HEAVY OVER 500 IBS LOLOLOL.no simply because it is impossible for that thing to have balance…

    dont forget humans can lift heavy weight aslong as you can balance the weight, which is 1 of the main purposes with a sword.

    still the hunter’s strength is alot bigger then average humans and ofcourse better then spartans.because i simply do not see any other human or a spartan blocking the attack of a wyvern without getting pwnt.

  36. Darkbladex96 May 18, 2010 at 1:02 pm -      #36

    “MH are made of.but i won’t be amazed if that steel is called super-unpractical-bullshit steel.”

    steel is simply steel in MH its just not very good in MH.

  37. orber May 18, 2010 at 2:23 pm -      #37

    *steel is simply steel in MH its just not very good in MH.*

    what i meant with that is that MH steel somehow makes a sword weight over 100kilo like blacksun claims.

    but indeed steel is just steel and seeing the fact that MH got guns their forging skills are post 16th century.this means they can create big but light and balanced weaponry.

  38. Darkbladex96 May 18, 2010 at 4:07 pm -      #38

    “what i meant with that is that MH steel somehow makes a sword weight over 100kilo like blacksun claims.”

    naw thats bull. the only weapons im thinking are particularly heavy are the gun lance and switch axe since they have mechanized parts. hell bone weapons are huge and i bet they re the lightest too since bone is poreous. yet it manages to be stronger then steel.

  39. Blacksun2175 May 18, 2010 at 6:58 pm -      #39

    “except that in actual sword combat.things like rolling only happen in videogames in movies.using a roll move in order to evade did happen in realistic times but it is rarely practical.”
    That’s because RL humans can’t react as fast as a hunter, or roll 5 feet in Less than a second.
    1.Irrelevant a human will get tired before a hunter does.
    2.Yeah it’s predictible to us but the Spartans couldn’t even predict that the Romans would stab over their shields LOL.
    3.hunter roll 5 feet and are up on their feet in less than a second.
    4.It’s a total bitch if you are a RL human, not a superhuman hunter.
    5.Unfortunately Steel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bronze. It won’t pierce steel.
    6.hunter stamina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>human stamina.So it’s moot.
    Dodging rant-snip
    “ofcourse the hunters have the rules of videogames with them so their rolling is effective on a inhuman scale.”
    Concession accepted.
    “lets assume the hunters are a superior breed of humans.so males are 6.5feet big and females 6.1 feet.if you would put the longsword next to the hunter size wise i make a rough calculation that the longsword is 7.5/8 feet.”

    You don’t have to assume, they are superior, they can run in heavy ass armor for hours and days, can hold their breath for 10 minutes, weild massive weapons that regular humans couldn’t swing effectifly if at all, they can survive being trampled by massive monsters and walk away like it was nothing, survive(run jump and dodge) inside a live volcano for several minutes(which would kill a normal human after a minute) yeah I’d say they are superior.
    Too bad if I use the lower 5’8 figure the sword is still well over 7 feet if we use your figure the swords can reach up to 11-12 feet for blades like the akantor blade and the hunter still weilds it effectively.

  40. Blacksun2175 May 18, 2010 at 7:10 pm -      #40

    “the biggest sword ever found IRL whas 5.4 feet big.the sword whas not only very long but also thick.it whas obvious that this sword whas meant for crushing and cleaving armors with a distance and weight advantage.”
    “just so you know these swords where thicker then longswords from MH.”
    IF it’s not 3 inches wide and 2 inches thick by up to 9 feet it’s not thicker.
    “anyway to the point.even despite that the longsword is longer then the sword i just mentioned the thickness should compensate.you know how much those 5.4 feet swords weighted? 28-35 kilo MAXIMUM.i don’t know with what kind of steel longswords in MH are made of.but i won’t be amazed if that steel is called super-unpractical-bullshit steel.”
    Fantasy super dense metal that doesnt break when hitting boulders, so you RL comparison is irrelevant. Also it would still cleave through the spartans shield, xiphos and spear.:P
    “ow just for your info those big swords are very rare and the discipline of it died out very fast because they wherent actully usefull in war.”
    Because humans cant weild those weapons, unlike a superhuman unter.So it’s irrelevant.
    “ofcourse spartan would be obviously fucked if elementals where allowed in this match.but even without it a spartan would loose.just like guns there is little to argue about regarding elemental weaponry.so we might aswell disregard it.”
    Concession accepted.
    “*I never once said Spartans were dumb*
    true but you gave me that impression by saying stuff like:
    *Bullshit, while the hunter is swinging that weapon the spartan wouldn’t come close without getting killed*
    this gave me the impression you where assuming a spartan would be dumb enough to approach a switch axe from the front while the hunter would be swinging it.while it is obvious sidestepping counters this stance.”
    FACEPALM, buddy, YOU even admitted getting close to that would be suicide, also the spartan wouldn’t be expecting them to weild a massive weapon like that, the hunter would have the element of suprise.
    “but anyway it matters not.”
    Of course it doesn’t the spartan is of a lower technilogical era, the hunters are in the gunpowder/steel/gears/airships(industrial era)
    “i asked about the bronze weaponry.bronze weaponry isn’t really a good choice indeed against plate armor.however weak joints are weak joints and can even be exploited with bronze HOWEVER a spartan would need such incredible precision and his strike needs to be perfectly balanced if he wants to do any damage at all.and implying that a hunter somewhat shields his weakjoints with a mail any damage done will be utter minimal.”
    The armor as seen in game portrays mail underneath the actual plates.
    Concession accepted.

  41. Blacksun2175 May 18, 2010 at 7:14 pm -      #41

    @darkbladex96

    Read further back, iron has a density of 450lbs per cubic foot, great swords use several cubic feet of steel which would only be 70% as heavy but it would still be more than 100 kilos, the same with an steel longsword.

  42. Blacksun2175 May 18, 2010 at 7:22 pm -      #43

    With that I will also nominate the hunter for the win.

  43. Megaraptor18 May 18, 2010 at 7:25 pm -      #44

    @ Blacksun

    Can you try to keep your statements in a single post if possible..

    Sorry it’s one of my pet peeves don’t take it personally

  44. Blacksun2175 May 18, 2010 at 7:51 pm -      #45

    @ Megaraptor18

    I have enough respect for your debating prowess, not to take it personally. However sometimes you need to stand your ground especially in the face of wanking.

  45. Megaraptor18 May 18, 2010 at 8:21 pm -      #46

    @ Blacksun

    Thank you for compliment. Now to your advice. I agree with that statement however your still new here (Or atleast commenting on the site) and don’t want you to be called a spammer and also I’m been trying to take it easy on the new guys. Now just keep it all in a single comment and leave a space between the paragraphs (makes it easier to read.) and your do fine by me.

    Oh and step by the forums every now and again. You get to talk to several of the high rollers in Factpile.

    (Sorry It’s my personel mission to get posible future Factpilers to the forums)

  46. Blacksun2175 May 19, 2010 at 12:58 am -      #47

    Don’t worry I’ll be sticking around. I’ll try not to clutter up the board as best I can.

    Sorry for the response structure I am used to other forums where massive posting like this are the norm in debating.

    I will continue to contribute to Factpile and HOPEFULLY find responsible…and intelligent factpilers to join the pile. ;)

  47. orber May 19, 2010 at 3:47 am -      #48

    *FACEPALM, buddy, YOU even admitted getting close to that would be suicide*

    from the front yes.

    regarding the sword issue.

    www.thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html

    they even made a calculation debunking the myth on heavy swords.and argue from the 2handed germanic greatsword point of view.MH weapons will ofcourse be heavier then anything we got in this world but not close too 400 Ibs.its all about the balance bud.

    the rest about your presented points need no arguing.i agree with them.

    and ofcourse welcome to FP enjoy your stay!

  48. Blacksun2175 May 19, 2010 at 5:14 am -      #49

    @ Orber

    Since said greatswords are nowhere near as long or as thick as a hunter’s longsword, your point is irrelevant.

    www.wallpaperez.info/wallpaper/games/Monster-Hunter-2-wallpapers-641.jpg

    Proves monster hunter longswords are thicker than a normal greatsword, again I said using iron’s density, not steel’s.

    Anyway I’m dropping it as of now, but a blade measuring 9′x 3-4″x 2″(much bigger and beefier than a greatsword) is going to use up almost a cubic foot of iron, if not more.

  49. orber May 19, 2010 at 5:44 am -      #50

    * iron’s density,*

    /facepalm. lol now i get it. sorry mate.

    still won’t be 400 Ibs though.but ye getting closer to such weights when using iron’s density.

  50. bluefireXD July 5, 2010 at 5:38 am -      #51

    I now this is over and the winner is obviously the hunter. But I just quickly want to make scenarios with all the different weapons I can think of just to finish this of and get the hunter the factpile award (probably not because its a ROFLSTOMP)

    SNS: The spartan looks at the warrior ahead of him with respect, his armor impressing but not intimidating him. He sees the hunter draw his weapons, and sees his pathetic battle stance. Confident, he charges. The spartans first attack is blocked by the hunter’s shield. Their swordplay continues for about 3 minutes, than the spartan ducks a cross slash, sidesteps to the hunters side, and goes for the opening on the hunters back. He swings. The spartan gets puzzled as his sword simply bounces of his enemy’s armor. He regains focus and quickly moves out of the way of the hunter’s shield bash. They come to a stand still as the spartan studies his opponent for weapoints. He decides to strike the neck. He suddenly sees the hunter drink some sort of potion. The spartan charges and begins his attack. The swordplay continues for 10 minutes this time, the hunter seeming to have new found speed, stamina and strength. Eventually, the spartan shield bashes the hunter, temporarily imcapacitating him. With all his mind, unbalanced, cocky and wild,he swings towards the neck. The spartans hand jerks backwards, as he thinks “I should have focused” and tries to regain his footing as the hunters sword near his stomach…

    GS: THe only way I can see it is the spartan starts swinging at the hunter confident that the hunter and her massive blade would be too heavy to counter with. After about 70 seconds of blocking, the hunter set up her great sword so the spartan’s sword hit the edge, with his bounce, the hunter kicks him. Than she would sword slap him, stunning him and the hunter swinging her sword at his head. I wrote it like this because I actually doubt this happening.

    Bowgun/Gunlance: Does this really need one? Pierce Level 3 to damage the shield and pierce the spartan, than a Pellet Level 3 to knock out his shield and badly wound him, than finish him off with a slew of Normal Level 3 or a Crag Level 3.

    I cant be bothered writing anymore, hope you enjoy.

  51. bluefireXD July 5, 2010 at 5:39 am -      #52

    Also, I would like to request a group fight with the Rathian & Rathalos fighting something, anyone got any ideas?

  52. orber July 5, 2010 at 7:43 am -      #53

    You can suggest all the matches you want here:

    www.factpile.com/battle-requests-2.htm

    Also welcome to FP.

  53. Belisaurius July 5, 2010 at 10:10 am -      #54

    “Bullshit, assuming a hunter is 5-8″ those lonswords (just the blade) would be in excess of 6 feet. the Blade is at least 3 inches across and at least an inch thick.Iron has a density of 450 lbs per cubic foot.Pwned.”

    A greatsword is rarely thicker than 1 1/2 inches. It may be a full foot wide or more but averages around 6 inches. 6′ is an average length.

    This is less than a single cubic foot by volume.

    Also, bear in mind that most monster hunters spend the majority of the battles running for their life. That’s alot of stamina and agility built up.

  54. bluefireXD July 7, 2010 at 6:59 am -      #55

    @Orber

    Thanks. Glad to be here.

  55. Davo September 2, 2010 at 6:14 pm -      #56

    The spartan would win for sure. The heavy weapons make the hunter slower and the spartan can dodge them easily and counterattack.

  56. overlord September 2, 2010 at 6:46 pm -      #57

    Way to suggest a stomp orber. . .

  57. Negative Zero September 2, 2010 at 6:51 pm -      #58

    Wow…just…wow. Monster Hunters kill dinosaurs. The Spartans lost a war. Gee I wonder whose gonna win…as if it isn’t obvious.

  58. Davo September 4, 2010 at 5:31 pm -      #59

    If the monster hunter kills a dragon that doesn’t mean he can win the spartan. The spartan is an experienced worrier who has trained since he was able to walk. I don’t think there is a chance the monster hunter can win. And what does losing a war have to do with his abliity to win the hunter

  59. bluefireXD September 4, 2010 at 7:44 pm -      #60

    @ Davo
    Yes, Negative Zero’s comment was a bit… pointless (what the hell man?) but the monster hunter still wins. The spartan is still tied to the laws of our planet, which means one single strike will kill him. The monster hunter survives getting pounced by dragons, chewed by leviathans and crushed by Brute Wyverns. Infact in Monster Hunter Tri, you encounter the Lagiacrus (one of the more powerful creatures) extremely early in the game. Even without armour, the Monster Hunter JUST survives the Lagiacrus’ drill tackle, its most powerful attack.

    THe hunter is also lumbering some very potent weapons. Who said he/she had to use the greatsword? He/she could use the bowgun, the lance, the long sword or even the sword and shield. Granted, if it was the sword and shield or the great sword, the spartan wins, but any other weapon and he is screwed.

  60. Negative Zero September 4, 2010 at 7:53 pm -      #61

    @Davo
    I just said that because that is what the Spartans were most famus for. Although they managed to kill thousands of Persians with only 300 soldiers….its hard to get more badass than that.

    @bluefire
    I know my comment was pointless. I just wanted to point out that killing a human would be a walk in the park compared to killing dinosaurs.

  61. bluefireXD September 4, 2010 at 9:46 pm -      #62

    @ Negative Zero
    I see where your coming from….
    I always thought it was badass to kill a dragon, cut of its tail, make a sword with the tail, than kill its mate with the sword.

    P.S Sorry brah… (Only reason I dont say bro is because it breaks Article 108)
    But it also depends on what human. What would be easier, killing an aptonoth or killing Kenshin from Samurai X?

  62. Negative Zero September 4, 2010 at 9:52 pm -      #63

    “I always thought it was badass to kill a dragon, cut of its tail, make a sword with the tail, than kill its mate with the sword.”

    It is indeed.

    “But it also depends on what human.”

    I just meant a regular human.

  63. Davo September 6, 2010 at 4:03 pm -      #64

    Well if u guys are talking about the game then the pic comes from the Spartan Total Worrier and in that game the spartan kills a Sentinel. (a many head dragon kind of thing).and has speacial powers.
    If u are talking about real life then there is no real monster hunter but there is a spartan. So I dont see a man who doesnt exist killing a great worrier.

  64. orber September 6, 2010 at 5:03 pm -      #65

    @Davo

    The spartan from total warrior would kill any monster hunter with his divine powers indeed but this match is basicly a match between a IRL spartan and a hunter.The fact that Hunters don’t exsist in real life wont matter since we are implying they do for this match.

  65. Negative Zero September 6, 2010 at 10:00 pm -      #66

    The Monster Hunter could just open fire with the Bowgun using the explosive rounds.

  66. bluefreXD September 6, 2010 at 10:21 pm -      #67

    Thats it.

    Hunter with a Gunlance= Owned Spartan

    The gunlance combines the power of the bowgun and the defensive capabilities of the lance to make a we an awesome weapon.

    MH for the award

  67. Negative Zero September 7, 2010 at 9:43 pm -      #68

    “MH for the award”

    I second that nomination.

  68. Davo September 11, 2010 at 4:20 pm -      #69

    Sorry guys but I still don’t see the monster hunter beating the Spartan. I personally believe that the Spartans are the greatest worriers of all times. And the spartan could block fire with his shield. Since the front of the shield is bronze it wouldn’t burn and the back is wood it wouldn’t burn his hands.

  69. bluefireXD September 12, 2010 at 12:39 am -      #70

    @ Davo
    The only problem is that the hunter has ammo that can penetrate dragon scales tougher than bronze (Pierce Lv 3) which means the shield won’t do much. Crag ammo, which lodges into a surface than explodes, would rip the shield off the spartan’s hands. Pellet Lv 3 would also destroy the shield, it being a shotgun shot.

    Besides, the hunter could set up numerous pitfall traps around the field, which would trap the spartan. But he would probably (is that how you spell it?) it.

  70. MrTBSC January 7, 2012 at 11:15 pm -      #71

    “A Monster Hunter from that franchise against a Spartan soldier.”
    -
    … that is the worst description i have readen so far …
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    if i had to take it as that …
    pretty much any monster hunter with a gun will beat a spartan soldier …
    but if you take the nameless hero (the spartan you play) then there are enough ways of how he could effectively deal with most monsterhunters … having f.e. achilles spear making him somewhat invincible turn enemies on fire with each hit or the shield of medusa turning one or multiple enemies in sight to stone
    also having the bow of artemis shooting a bolt of lightning (that acts as chainlightning)
    so actualy considering that the spartan defeated a.o. the hydra and ares he should be more then capable to beat monsterhunters
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    god damned this game needs a sequel badly … spartan 2: total warior anyone?

  71. Zolanius February 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm -      #72

    I recall that monster hunters on the lance defensive can turn and angle their shields on a dime. And pretty damn quickly too. Yeah, it only protects the front. But in 1v1 combat, I doubt the Spartan can get the angle he needs to get past the shield.

    Then there is the offensive capabilities of the shield. Both are probably able to do a decent shield bash. How the hunter does it is that he advances rather quickly, and unpredictably so, with his shield for maybe… 4 feet of distance? Then he sweeps that massive shield across. To monsters like wyverns, it makes them dizzy. Almost unconscious maybe. There’s no telling what it can do to a human.

    The lance also has a sweeping attack with a wide range. Sure, the spartan can side-step a jab and advance, but the hunter can easily follow up with the sweep, forcing the spartan to retreat back to stabbing range.

    The small shield from the sword and shield style has the same dizzying effect on monsters as the lance’s shield, only the blow is stationary and very swift. When used on another hunter(for laughs) it sends them flying backwards maybe… 8 feet minimum. Not accounting for terrain if that matters.

  72. Zolanius February 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm -      #73

    Sorry for the double post, but I forgot to mention the counter attack, arguably the most power single strike that a lance can give. When the shield is raised for the counter and struck, the hunter immediately jabs, rather harshly. This counter stance is almost instantaneous.

    At this point I question if hunters are normal humans. Being set on fire, eaten, shocked, trampled, poisoned, falling from great distances, swimming and running almost indefinitely with all that gear, only to recover in a matter of seconds and keep fighting… They’re a tenacious bunch.

    To elaborate further on the sweep of the lance, it covers almost all around the hunter save for the rear-right of his/her position. Besides that gap, the lance sweep covers the right, front, left and rear left. The spartan’s agility probably won’t allow a dodge unless that dodge is a retreat to avoid the reach of that lance. Again, this sets up another attempt for the hunter to jab or advance into a shield bash while the spartan is retreating.

    The lance is more tactical than you think.

  73. epicazeroth March 4, 2012 at 4:49 pm -      #74

    Well, I play MH3, and Pierce Bullets can shoot through Lagiacri and come out the other end and have not lost any speed. Also, how will the Spartan defend against a 6 foot hammer spinning with enough force to knock aside a Great Jaggi or an 8 foot Lance or a Switch Axe with Paralyze effect, or even just a normal sword, which I cut through Ludroth with?

  74. epicazeroth March 4, 2012 at 4:50 pm -      #75

    Has anyone said this, but what if we just use the Monster Hunter in the photo?

  75. Man1cmanMario July 11, 2012 at 6:22 am -      #76

    You know, I’ve been trying to consider a way to make 1 of 2 matchups occur:

    -Monster Hunter Vs. Ridley (Super Metroid/Other M)

    Or

    -Rukodiora & *insert other Elder Dragon here* Vs. Meta Ridley

    In case you couldn’t tell, I think this is rather a victory handed to the Hunter right here.

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