Published on April 2, 2010, by admin - Posted in Universe 474
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Both sides have all available characters in any timeline, and at the height of their powers.
Which side would win?
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Speaking of Ganondorf he could rain down so much destruction on the anime side.
‘Speaking of Ganondorf he could rain down so much destruction on the anime side.’
Ganondorf can do that but some of the higher uppers on the other side could effectively deal with him quickly or they can match him very well.
“Speaking of Ganondorf he could rain down so much destruction on the anime side.”
Not unless Ganondorf throws them into the Dark World/Twilight Real/Realm Between Dimensions first.
(On a side note check out these pictures of Link as an old man.)
Alucard has Ganondorf outclassed in most options. Both have immortality which puts them on an almost equal durability but Ganondorf is argurably stronger physically. The dimension thing would be ineffective since Alucard returned from non existence before. It is said Tenchi is an omnipotent being so nuff said there. As much as I hate to admit it, DBZ characters have Ganondorf outclassed in pure ability like speed and destructive ability but then again, they’ll never be able to kill Ganondorf.
For your old Link, I offer you Ace Prosecutor Ganon in exchange. th07.deviantart.net/fs32/150/f/2008/209/a/3/Ace_Prosecutor_Ganondorf_by_SebzB.jpg
Was Disagea an anime or a game first?
Prosecuter Ganondorf? With all the evil things hes done I’d think HE would be the one on trail am I right?
Meant trial not trail.
“Was Disagea an anime or a game first?”
Ganondorf is defending himself from….
Ace Attorney Link!
Thanks for clearing that up.
The gods are probably the jury.
to be honest VG side has all the hax players
Star Ocean- they really need matches on FP, the main character is by far one of the most powerful RPG characters ever.
“Star Ocean- they really need matches on FP, the main character is by far one of the most powerful RPG characters ever.” Which one? (Can’t be Fayt he still has limits.)
Did they ever have a comics vs games match?
“(Can’t be Fayt he still has limits.)”
yea its fayt….powerscaling makes him a beast since he hasnt done anything in the cutscenes.
his canon feats for powerscaling are:
defeating confirmed FTL creatures
killing creatures more durable then star ships
Fayt learns the jesus beam
has space time-distortion abilities
his three elemental attacks, include a solar temp fireball; absolute zero fields of ice; and exploding boulders.
can agument his weapon with divine power, lightning, fire , and ice
he is faster then cliff who can dodge lasers after theve been fired.
yeah hes pretty beast, he should fight sora.
“yeah hes pretty beast, he should fight sora.”
Sora is way below him.
“his canon feats for powerscaling are:”
People laugh when Disgaea powerscales….
They only accept canon cut scenes and moves they would never accept it in a match.
“defeating confirmed FTL creatures”
They where never actually lightspeed in combat (when you fight them)or shown to be no one could accept this..
“he is faster then cliff who can dodge lasers after theve been fired.”
So you are saying he is only faster when powerscaled?
I have a feeling you won’t get much of an argument for any battles with Fayt.
Silent darkness creeps into your soul/and removes the light of self-control/the cave that holds you captive has no doors/Burning with determination/to even up the score
hearts on fire/strong desire/rages deep within/hearts on fire/fever’s rising high/the moment of truth draws near
time will not allow you to stand still, no/silence breaks the heart and bends the will/and things that give deep passions are your sword/rules and regulations have no meaning anymore
hearts on fire/strong desire/rages deep within/hearts on fire/fever’s rising high/the moment of truth is here
Sorry I’ve been watching wayy too much rocky 4
hearts on fire/strong desire/rages deep within/hearts on fire/fever’s rising high/the moment of truth is here”
Why exactly did you post this her? What relevance does that have to this battle?
Pity Bugs Bunny isn’t included in this fight, he can become the artist and harass everyone.
“Why exactly did you post this her? What relevance does that have to this battle?”
It was stuck in my head I couldn’t stop singing it
“It was stuck in my head I couldn’t stop singing it ”
So it had no relevance to the battle.
Everyone’s silent as they look on to the computer monitor.
They see two armies on the opposite sides of a battlefield.
One are the characters of Video Games preparing for a fight.
Having been trained for life for this kind of situation, they are not afraid.
Some could be seen holding dangerous futuristic weapons, while others wield magical artifacts.
They pray to their gods for help and turned to their foes.
On the other side are Anime characters, readying themselves for what could be their final battle.
Sending prayers heavenward (downward in some cases), they prepare some more.
One is clutching yellow balls with varying number of stars, while another is sitting on a monstrous robot that extends up to the sky, holding what seem to be drills in it hand.
The observers look on, and wait.
Demonbane is on the VG side since when?
“Demonbane is on the VG side since when?”
since it was made actually. it started as a pc game then was ported to PS2.
after that it got a 12 episode OVA to go with the game.
“Sora is way below him.”
“People laugh when Disgaea powerscales….”
they really shouldnt, since many RPGs dont have tons of action in the cutscenes, have to take the enemies feats then powerscale the characters based on if the main character canonly beat them.
“They only accept canon cut scenes and moves they would never accept it in a match.”
and luckily the logic would fall into place, from the cutscenes i could show.
“They where never actually lightspeed in combat (when you fight them)or shown to be no one could accept this..”
oh yes they could, them not moving FTL in combat can easily be attributed to GMs, since every cutscene their in shows that thier purpose is to destroy you at all cost, and it doesnt include going easy on you or restricting power use, the same way they have attacks, and defenses in the cutscene that they dont have in battle.
“So you are saying he is only faster when powerscaled?”
he dodged a vendeeni laser, but im pretty sure that it was just plot shielding.
“I have a feeling you won’t get much of an argument for any battles with Fayt.”
if you can work your evidence well enough you can link bladder infections with global warming.
if they could debate squall, on factpile then someone who defeated enimeis with feats, and has a destructive feat and easily findable info shouldnt be hard to use.
I just realized that Zant could just cover the entire anime side in the Twilight Realm.
Even Gurren Lagann?
“Even Gurren Lagann?”
If he has anything that keeps him from turning into a helpless ghost that barely aware of whats going on then yes. Thats what happens to people in the Twilight Realm.
Unless Spiral Power can do something against that, I doubt the big robot will survive.
“If he has anything that keeps him from turning into a helpless ghost that barely aware of whats going on then yes. Thats what happens to people in the Twilight Realm.”
HAhahah you think that would stop Gurren Lagann?
Watch this Episode please.
Zants a creepy guy. Heres what he does when you fight him.
Although the creepiest Legend of Zelda villian is probably Majora(also can do a lot of damage in this fight. I’ll explain why later.)
For everyone saying that anime has been around longer and is more developed:
You know that means absolutely nothing right?
Someone, anyone could randomly start a different genre with one game and single-handedly defeat all of anime and VG by writing down this one sentence:
“In the universe of the blahs, there is one man named George who can defeat every other piece of fiction.”
Now, onto this whole pulling out the most powerful characters thing.
One. People seem to be pulling out omnipotents left and right and assuming that they are somehow stronger than the omnipotents from the other side.
We all know what omnipotent means. How does an omnipotent fight an omnipotent?
They can do everything, there is no higher power level than that. They are equal, but even if it was a billion vs 1, that one should have the power to take on a billion omnipotents because they are… omnipotent.
So lets just say that fall into a paradox and dot exist anymore.
“We all know what omnipotent means. How does an omnipotent fight an omnipotent?
They can do everything, there is no higher power level than that. They are equal, but even if it was a billion vs 1, that one should have the power to take on a billion omnipotents because they are… omnipotent.
So lets just say that fall into a paradox and dot exist anymore.”
well there are only 4 confirmed omnipotents in this fight. maybe 5, most on the VG side we arent assuming that they are stronger then each other, rather we want to know if each side has enough omnipotents to keep the almighties in a deadlock so they dont roflrape the mortals.
we are well aware of what omnipotent actually means, but omnipotents in these universes rarely follow the definition.
example the LoZ goddess are omnipotent, yet it took 3 of them to make the planet if they are all omnipotent they each couldve made entire universes, but they didnt.
OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just remembered VG gets vigoor, and according to ninja gaidens lore he eats omnipotents and poops on reality.
“HAhahah you think that would stop Gurren Lagann?”
Yes as a matter of fact. Does he have a Triforce Piece? Is he a member of the Twili race? Does he have ANYTHING that could remotely keep him from being turned into a helpless ghost that can’t interact with anything outside of the Twilight Realm? Being a giant anime robot is NOT an automatic “get out of the Twilight Realm free card”.
Anyway now on to Majora. For those of you who aren’t familiar with him let me give you an intro.
Majora is believed to be a vile and powerful monster born in the deepest and darkest parts of the Twilight Realm long before the events of any Legend of Zelda game. Majora became such a danger that the Twili created a song to trap his soul in a mask. This song became known as the Song of Healing. They then used the power in Majora’s Mask for dark rituals, but over time the power of the Song of Healing began to lose its hold on Majora. Fearing the worst the Twili hid the mask in shadow, hoping to seal Majora away forever. During Majora’s Mask the Happy Masked Salesman somehow gets ahold of the mask, creating probable evidence that the Happy Masked Salesman is either a Twili or somehow connected to the Twili. Anyway back on topic. Skull Kid ambushed the salesman and stole Majora’s Mask and put it on. Slowly the mask corrupted Skull Kids mind and made him evil. Long story short Majora is considered to be the most evil villian in the LoZ series, even more than Ganondorf (although Majora is not as powerful). Every other villian in the series had a goal or a reason why they were evil. Majora however had NO reason for trying to crush the country of Termina under a moon. He simply wanted to watch everybody die. Majora is also considered to be mentally insane. Now on to his powers (this also includes what Skull Kid accomplished using Majora’s power.)
Majora’s power has…..
- Created lasers.
- Magically created giant spinning bladed tops.
- Controlled life itself as shown when Skull Kid turned Kafei (used to be a full grown man) into a child around Link’s age in that game (12 years old at least) and when Skull Kid brought the dead back to life in Ikana Canyon.
- Transformed Link into a Deku.
- Poisoned the water of Southern Swamp.
- Created an unending blizzard in Snowhead Mountain.
- Created a giant moon to destroy Termina with.
- Clouded the ocean water around Great Bay.
Majora is considered to have godlike power. He is also very fast and agile plus he has giant whips for arms. Yeah…………Majora would wreck the hell out of somebody like Naruto.
I would also like to mention that Link killed Majora in a few hits after putting on the Fierce Deity Mask (turns Link into what is basically the LoZ version of the god of destruction).
It would be awsome seeing Fierce Deity Link wrecking havoc on the anime side.
Ahem *clears throat* NO ONE GIVES A FUCK
“Ahem *clears throat* NO ONE GIVES A FUCK
What….about you? I already knew that. Now you be a good little boy and go back to failing at explaing how Hulk could possibly beat Superman.
“Being a giant anime robot is NOT an automatic “get out of the Twilight Realm free card”.
Being some several million lightyears tall does kind of streach the “send to the Twilight Realm” ability a bit much though. I doubt Ganondorf could teleport something that large away from himself.
“example the LoZ goddess are omnipotent, yet it took 3 of them to make the planet if they are all omnipotent they each couldve made entire universes, but they didnt.”
1) Just because they can do it alone doesn’t mean that they choose to do it alone. While their powers are infinate, it is never said that each of them is omni-talented. It could be that only Din, the creator of all matter in every zeldaverse, is omnipotent as she is Power. Nayru may be the only omniscent one as she is Wisdom. The Triforce has both of these aspects and is but a fraction of the three Goddesses.
There are areas where the Goddesses overlap however. Both Din and Farore are linked to nature. Farore and Nayru to Time and Life. All of them have a connection to Spirits (however this may be more because the Three are basically the Zues of the Zelda Pantheon and the Spirits are all lesser deities).
2) They created millions of realities at that moment. So even within this small feat of total reality creation, it is still litterally millions of times greater than Vigoor’s supposed “omnipotence” feats.
3) Vigoor is a piece of shit. He couldn’t even handle a simple man/fiend. Either his “omnipotence” is a complete fabrication of his worshipers, or he is so mentally retarded he doesn’t understand his own power. The very fact that he was stripped of his powers at some point by other beings implies limits to his abilities beyond CIS.
“3) Vigoor is a piece of shit. He couldn’t even handle a simple man/fiend. Either his “omnipotence” is a complete fabrication of his worshipers, or he is so mentally retarded he doesn’t understand his own power. The very fact that he was stripped of his powers at some point by other beings implies limits to his abilities beyond CIS.”
That was actually pretty funny….in a smart way.
“Being a giant anime robot is NOT an automatic “get out of the Twilight Realm free card” He is the biggest giant anime robot that exists.
The fog would take billions of billions of billions of years to envelop him and I doubt spiral energy would be affected by something so weak.
“Ahem *clears throat* NO ONE GIVES A FUCK”
One of the few times I can agree with chuck this time actually.
“One of the few times I can agree with chuck this time actually.”
Why? Don’t give him the satifaction of feeling like hes right.
“The fog would take billions of billions of billions of years to envelop him and I doubt spiral energy would be affected by something so weak.”
OK the size would pose a problem but the Twilight Realm is NOT weak. Zant was able to instantly cover Hyrule in it. Only someone with a Triforce piece or is a Twili can resist being turned into a ghost. Weak? Bullshit.
“Only someone with a Triforce piece or is a Twili can resist being turned into a ghost.”
No limits fallacy.
I would say games take it simply because of the Scarlet sisters though.
“No limits fallacy.”
Really? Is that why EVERYBODY in Hyrule without those 2 things were transformed? I’m just going with what has been shown.
What about Father from Fullmetal Alchemist?
He ate their god.
“What about Father from Fullmetal Alchemist?”
Pretty sure it will still turn him.
“He ate their god.”
Was their god anywhere near the level of the Legend of Zelda deities?
(EX- Godess of Courage/Wisdom/Power/Time, Spirit of Law, Four Giants, Light Spirits, Wind Fish, ect.)
“Really? Is that why EVERYBODY in Hyrule without those 2 things were transformed?”
You are applying one universes limits to several thousand+ universes.
Watch this video real quick
I don’t know, he was more like the “I know everything” type.
“Was their god anywhere near the level of the Legend of Zelda deities?”
Their “god” was a personified version of the rules of reality.
So… on par with the Spirit of Law, but underneath the Goddess of Time and Three Goddesses.
@ Negative Zero.
Fullmetal Alchemist god was more like “I know everything” type.
“I don’t know, he was more like the “I know everything” type.”
Then hes gonna be turned if thats all he has. Could he deal with Majora? Read about him in post 38 on this page.
I still think the Twilight Realm can affect all of the non godly/divine anime characters. By the way what was the point of that video?
“@ Negative Zero.
Fullmetal Alchemist god was more like “I know everything” type.”
So hes a smartass? Just kidding I know what you mean. Anyway I answered this in my last post.
“By the way what was the point of that video?”
Did you even watch it?
They materialized those robots out of spiral energy energy that is far above some mild fog. If you watched any of the video’s I gave you, you would know that they broke out of the control of something far stronger than the fog.
He doesn’t have any way to beat Majora, but he can tell others how, for a price.
The Twilight Realm isn’t a fog. Its a completely different dimension.
What would he tell them? If he can beat him then how would he know what to tell somebody about how to beat him? Also……Majora looks pretty demonic (which adds to his creepiness.)
“Its a completely different dimension.”
I was talking about this fog, the dimensional transfer wouldn’t work for something of that size, it doesn’t even fit in that dimension for zelda’s sake.
The only reason why Link isn’t being transformed before he touches the Fog is because of the Master Sword. The whole Twilight Realm passively transforms normal people into spirits; Link was transformed into a wolf as a reflection of his inner self because of ToC protected his soul. The Fog within the Twilight Realm transforms people even if they have some protection against this polymorphic effect.
i wonder how much destruction tetsuo would rain down on the VG side
@ Negative Zero
That’s in the realm of imagination.
From the second anime (Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood), Edward Elric learned of the “truth”, but paid an equivalent price, his brother and his limbs
Which means the more you offer, the more knowledge will be given to you.
How many people would that be?
“How many people would that be?”
Are you reffering to killing Majora?
The size of TTGL is a moot point.Team gurren has proven that they can rewrite probability and harm a omnipotent.They also proven they can attack multiple past’s and future’s so the Zant would be destroyed before he even exsists.
Theres more than just Zant. The actual LoZ deities could end the fight as soon as it starts.
Why do people on this site use the terms moot and moot point to mean “pointless” or “non debatable”? Thats the way people seem to use it. Here is the ACTUAL definition of moot and moot point.
Moot- to debate, to disscuss. Debatable, subject to disscussion.
Moot Point- a point debated or liable to be debated.
So from now on if people are going to use such stupid sounding words then at least use them in the definitions they were meant for.
As a matter of fact, the size of the TTGL IS a moot point. The video link in post 50 depicted many of the mech at a size of several hundred KM to several hundread LY.
I’m just saying…
Well video games have plenty of space related things to combat robo boy. Didn’t you mention something about Bowser’s “universe ending weapons”? Were they from the Super Mario Galaxy games?
Bowser’s universe buster was in the first game; I’m not sure about the second.
TTGL can survive a universe bust though. It did when it fought and killed the Anti-Spirial mech. Once the Anti-Spirals were destroyed the pocket universe that they were fighting in collasped on top of the remains of the TTGL and all of the smaller varients of the Lagann. All of team Dai-Gurren Lagann survived it; although many of their mechs were destroyed during the final attack, but that is okay because they can create matter through Spiral energy.
Pretty much the best thing that Bowser’s universe buster could do is slow it down for a while. The TTGL is a semi legitimate threat to Solaris too, and Solaris could easily survive Bowser’s Galaxy Reactor (the universe busting weapon’s name; yes its name is rather humble compared to its power).
So what do you think could completely destroy TTGL?
Well……I love (100%) Anime & Video Games, this match is a tie/draw, the 2 sides are the best there is, but in this site Admin’s rules are that there are no ties/draws in battles, so Im gana be whit the Game side for now.
this are my best of the best games that I have & is in the Game Team:
And theres all the best games ever made, & I have a billions more best of the best games in my room.
So Video Games for the FP awards.
“Im gana be whit the Game side for now.”
This can’t be right….. You are the hero of anime you are supposed to save the anime side from losing to the video game side
ignore post#72, its that I my videos dont whant to showoff, sorry
It would be funny to watch Snake pop out of a cardboard box and snap Naruto’s neck.
“This can’t be right….. You are the hero of anime you are supposed to save the anime side from losing to the video game side”
Im whit the video game side because, Anime and Video Games are the sane thing like for example:
DBZ anime = DBZ Videogames.
DMC Anime = DMC games.
KH Manga = KH games.
Anime/Manga are Anime that you can see and read for intertaiment & is awesome.
Videogames are Based on Anime/manga story, some games are not, but still awesome.
The point is that both of them are 100% Badass Awesome Brutal for me, if in this site there were no rules, then I will make this match a TIE/DRAW
“It would be funny to watch Snake pop out of a cardboard box and snap Naruto’s neck.”
LOL thats exactly what would happend to Naruto, Snake is a trained soldier by Big Boss that is way better then Naruto, + Snake have guns that he can use to kill Naruto easy
It would be funny to see Kratos hold Naruto while Link repeatedly stabs him in the chest.
An omnipotent being could do it. It is really hard to think of something below that, that could take on the team Dai Gurren Lagann. Their motto is: “Go beyond the impossible, and kick reason to the curb! That’s the Team (Dai-)Gurren way!”
They do that… several times… per episode.
The one thing that holds them back is the fact that they aren’t abstract. If Team Dai Gurren was abstract and incaporeal, they would be gods. Anything less than a super powerful being that create or ignore the rules of space, time, and reality at will, can and will be beaten down by the TTGL. Even if they have to throw a Big Bang at it (yes Orber I’m fully aware that it was the Anti-Spirals that threw the Big Bang and not Team Dai Gurren; I wouldn’t put it beyond their ability to do so however since Lordgenome was able to break down the Big Bang [at the cost of himself] and feed it back into the TTGL).
At the end of the series the main character dismissed resurecting the dead not because he couldn’t do it (he neither confirms nor denies that it is beyond him, but he implies that it isn’t impossible… which isn’t surprising since they do impossible things regularly anyways), but he, and everyone else, should choose not to ressurect the dead because they (the team) were not gods and the people who sacrificed themselves would just get in the way of the next generation and them making their own future.
The theme of passing the torch and making your own future were key themes in the series, and bringing back the dead who sacrificed themselves so that others could continue onward made their deaths less meaningful.
The only battles I whant to see are :
Link vs Ichigo
Boba Feet vs DeadPool.
Resident Evil vs Naruto
LOZ(Legend of Zelda) vs SW(Star Wars)
Sasuke vs Cloud
Dante(DMC) vs Inuyasha
so what do everybody thinks about these battles
“Link vs Ichigo”
Give Link all of his items. Then again everybody would just say “Ichigo haz teh speed blitz and some demon powerz!!!”
“Boba Feet vs DeadPool.”
Boba Fett all the way.
“Resident Evil vs Naruto”
Resident Evil would DESTROY those pussies.
“LOZ(Legend of Zelda) vs SW(Star Wars)”
Don’t suggest it. I can’t choose betwwen 2 of my all time favorite things.
“Sasuke vs Cloud
Dante(DMC) vs Inuyasha”
I don’t care about these.
Well anyway the LoZ gods can singlehandedly destroy all of anime if they want to.
i wouldnt go that far, Ryu is not simple man/fiend. He of the dragon lineage, literally blood related to the dragon gods who are the power of Gurdu. Vigoor cant have his way with someone from the dragon lineage.
its not a fabrication, its way too accurate, its more like vigoor manipulating them to write history while he tries to regain power from the dragons.
apparently team ninjas writers think omnipotents can be defeated by more omnipotents.
you dont have to believe hes omnipotent, just let it be known that his power levels are universal in scale. he can be anywhere and everywhere, and he knows nearly everything in his universe.
to be honest this match isnt getting anywhere, i think we should break this into sections.
Planet to Solar system busting
Galaxy to Universe busting
When looking it up online I often read about supposedly ridiculously powered anime characters. Embodiments of universes, multiversal threats, reality warpers, but it’s really damn hard to find any way to look at these supposed feats.
‘Demonsbane’ in it’s ‘Elder God’ form is apparently a mecha that puts TTGL to shame, destroying universes by brushing past them, but I can’t find any videos of it doing so.
We need some bigger anime nerds on this site.
This is so fuckin stupid why would you even bring gods or omnipotents into a universe vs universe it’s totally bias and unbalanced I’d say battles should not include godly characters
“This is so fuckin stupid why would you even bring gods or omnipotents into a universe vs universe it’s totally bias and unbalanced I’d say battles should not include godly characters”
Because gods and omnipotents are usually the most powerful beings in universes. It’s on biased if one side doesn’t have gods and omnipotents.
As for taking out godly characters, if you feel up to making some sort of system that shows what defines a ‘godly’ character, go ahead and do it. Remember there are massively powerful, near-omnipotent characters that aren’t technically gods and vice versa.
*It’s only biased, sorry
“Remember there are massively powerful, near-omnipotent characters that aren’t technically gods and vice versa.”
Such as Simon the Digger and Team Dai Gurren Lagann.
Remember these guys can bust a universe, teleport across galaxies and dimensions, alter the probability of reality, have a supply of matter and energy that is created into reality by their own willpower, and are more awesome than anybody else. Ever… And they are mere mortal humans.
““LOZ(Legend of Zelda) vs SW(Star Wars)”
Don’t suggest it. I can’t choose betwwen 2 of my all time favorite things.”
Me 2, I love both of them, LOZ is legendery and SW is just so dam epic. if that match happend I think the dead star will do the trick for the win
Well in this debate if the Anime team have this in there team, they will win in 3 seconds:
*it (yes Orber I’m fully aware that it was the Anti-Spirals that threw the Big Bang and not Team Dai Gurren; I wouldn’t put it beyond their ability to do so however since Lordgenome was able to break down the Big Bang [at the cost of himself] and feed it back into the TTGL).*
Lol…you’re the first person to agree with me on that matter.Seeing how the big bang storm is created by smashing 2 galaxy’s at eachother I don’t see why Team gurren couldn’t do that aswell.But for some reason people on other sites disagree with me.When I ask why they say its because the anti-spiral is a omnipotent and only he has the power to do such things…while its pretty damn clear the anti spiral got his ass kicked.
But anyways…Demonbane is on the vidya side so they win by default.
*‘Demonsbane’ in it’s ‘Elder God’ form is apparently a mecha that puts TTGL to shame, destroying universes by brushing past them, but I can’t find any videos of it doing so.*
Thats because of poor unclear writing etc.
As it stands now the elder god is a god amongst god, a being that can snap away gods by simply moving.Its purpose after all whas to defeat and control gods anyway if I remember correctly.
Well…looks like video games win to me.
@ Orber: When was it said that the Anti-Spirals were omnipotent? Because, you know, they obviously weren’t as they got their asses kicked… or they were and just chose to be defeated, which would be stupid since they would have then allowed themselves to be defeated by the very thing they stood against.
Of couse since the GL series makes a big deal about “passing on the torch” trope, it could be that the Anti-Spirals just chose to step down as protectors of the universe and allow Team Dai Gurren to win and protect the universe now. Of course this kinda goes along with and kinda goes against the series’s other theme of forging your own future, as it would imply that Team Dai Gurren becomes the next incarnation of the Anti-Spirals… or not… Arg, I’m thinking about this too much.
*goes back to watch the hot spring episode again, because that one is hilarious*
But arn’t there cross-overs from anime to video-games, and vice-versa? THis is kinda hard because both teams have people in common as well as different people.
“But arn’t there cross-overs from anime to video-games, and vice-versa? THis is kinda hard because both teams have people in common as well as different people.”
It has already been settled. Universes go to whatever form of media they first appeared in. Except for manga, which goes to anime.
This WAS a problem. In the earlier comments it was made clear that if the subject was a video game FIRST then its on the video game side and vice versa for anime. Does that clear things up?
Oh ok. Wow still its hard to decide which side wins has its trillions upon trillions vs trillions upon trillions.
Remember, the Anti-Spiral insisted on placing limits on himself in order to be equal to his opponent for whatever reason. Though even then he was still better in combat. The only reason TTGL defeated it was through that russian doll technique. That and PIS. Lots and lots of PIS.
“As it stands now the elder god is a god amongst god, a being that can snap away gods by simply moving”
Good god please link me to this.
The video games side still has more omnipotents don’t they?
Don’t both sides have people that are actually invincible, or at least invulnerable to anything but certain things found within their own universe. What if a franchise started in movies or comics or books, but has crossed over from there into anime or video games?
“What if a franchise started in movies or comics or books, but has crossed over from there into anime or video games?”
They aren’t in this fight.
The Anti-Spirals did place a limit on themselves, we can agree on that, but that does not mean that they were limitless without those self imposed limits. Simon even says that the Anti-Spirals were limited because they halted their own evolution. Those limits, by definition, would make them nigh-omnipotent at best. And the differance between omnipotent and just nigh-omnipotent is infinite.
I mean, by that same logic, then Samus Aran was omnipotent in Other M because she held herself back for most of the game. That isn’t true because we know she has a limit beyond her own self imposed limit of obeying Adam’s orders on which gear she could use. Pretty much all you’ve proven is that the Anti-Spirials were more powerful than what they were shown to be. No established limit does not automatically mean that there is no natural limitation though.
I’m going to need more proof before I am willing to concede that the Anti-Spirals were omnipotent, especially since Simon made a good point that, due to the nature of Spiral Energy, the Anti-Spirals would be more powerful had they not stopped their own growth as a species before they became the Anti-Spirals.
@ Negative Zero
Anime from mangas aren’t included?
That will seriously handicap the anime side.
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