I still haven’t had a chance to play the Conduit, but from everything I’ve seen, it’s been well received. Some reviews say that it’s better than Halo 3. While I personally doubt that, it’s getting a bunch of love right now. Regardless, I think the Chief retains his crown as the king of the FPS for consoles.
What do you think?
Wow, Kinda saw ths one coming. Gotta go with the Chief again because if he can use guilty spark like ford can use the ASC, chief can have spark use the laser, or talk them to death.
Wow kinda saw this coming. Gotta go with the chief again, because if he can use Guilty spark like ford uses the ASC, then chief can have spark use that giant laser, or he can talk them to death.
srry bout the double comment
Master Chief will get screwed. Ford would own Master Chief with a TPC Launcher or any other Trust wepons. There is also a good chance a hive cannon or a strike rifle good kill Chief. And if the ASE can turn off Master Chief’s Energy sheilds game over. So Agent Ford ftw.
Oh and
@wft bomber since when can Chief use another character as a wepon?
dont know much about ford but i know chief, an i dont think a similar charector could take him down, but i could b wrong
Does ford have super-human abilities? If he doesn’t he stands almost no chance.
Sorry for the double, but I think since Ford has the floatee thing, them MC has something of similier kind, like a moniter.
@the_man_with The_Answers
The “floatee thing” is a item used by Ford. Not another Charater. So MC could not use Guity Spark/The Moniter because that is another character. Correct me if I am wrong admin. And yes Ford does have super Human Abiltites due to his Trust Armour.
Right. Guilty Spark is it’s own being (with it’s own matches too: www.factpile.com/index.php?s=guilty+spark) – Admin
@ anyone who knows
is the asc bullet proof?
@ss
Yes The ASE has been shown to to survive small explosions and Bullets. Also the ASE can withstand severe plasma considering Trust plamsa can distngrate a person Halo plasma as said in another post only schorchs enteranl organs so the ASE must be able to survive Halo Plasma.
Since I don’t know much about Agent Ford my vote’s going towards Master Chief, but if Agent Ford is really what people claim him to be then i would give this match to him.
@Captain Epic
in that case i must chang my vote to agent ford, because he is essentially fighting 2 charectors with similar charectoristics to him, and i dnt think he could handle them
Instead of Chief having Spark, he gets Cortana, which I should’ve said anyway. I’m not sure exactly how strong and fast Ford is though. i’ll do a little research and comeback.
If chief can die from one hit rocket Mr. Ford’s druge hive cannon will have him in seconds.
MC can kill him with the spartan laser or the gravity hammer or just the needler
@the_man_with The_Answers
but cortana cant do anything without being in contact with the system tho
@some guy
If MC rushes in with a Gravity Hammer he would get owned in a matter of moments.
I’m not sure, but didn’t Cortana deactivate Sparky when she was in the control room on Instalation 04?
@ The_man_with The_Answers
thats only because she was in contact with his controls in the system, thats the reason master chief has to do all the leg work, she has to b put in the system, until she is, she is mostly useless save for advice
Ya. Its kinda weird though that Sparky can operate without his controls. Thats what kind of mystifies me. He must have an incredible power source from within to even operate that long with or without the control system.
Actually Cortana isn’t useless. Part of the Mark V and Mark VI suit is that Cortana can be put in and actually enhnce MC’s abilities by helping the commands from his central nerveous system get to where they need to go, thus increasing his reaction time.
@The_man_with The_Answers
that is an interesting fact i didnt know, thjank you for introducing it to me
Not that I’m a supporter of MC, but can’t he get a headshot from far away?
You are very welcome. Actually I owe you some credit. If you did not bring up the control thing I would never have realized it.
then your welcome as well
Baron, you make a good piont. MC can get headshots from distance with-
M6Ds
BR55s
Sniper Rifle
Carbine
Particle Beam Rifle
A stealthy Chief could pull this one off I think. Even on a head firefights between multiple enemies and Chief, he has pulled off a suprising amount of headshots. Even barely trained, but motivated, militia men can pull off headshot on grunts.
Masterchief wins know fight
@justin oliver
Not really MC may win but not that easy. If Ford can get the first hit then he wins.
Thats if he can, which even with the first hit, MC could jut return a headshot, free-of-charge.
Not if he gets disngrated by a TPC Launcher.
I doubt he would. Unless the TPC is faster than a plasma bolt, it wouldn’t be a threat. I could say that Ford could be disinagrated by a fuel rod, but there are so many other ways MC could win that would be much better.
@ the_man_with_the Answers
I was curios about this debate so i looked up the some of the weapons on WIki. Turns out that the TPC is a fully automatic weapon and since I dont think Master chief can do Bullet time he will be in trouble. Why do you keep bringing up the fuel rod cannon? I thought it was settled somewhere that characters have their usual gear unless otherwise stated.
I didn’t exatly bring it up. Anyways, just because it is auto-matic, dosn’t mean it has a high velocity. many weapons are fully automatic, yet move slower than bullets. example, plasma rifle, brute spiker,……so on. Also, is the TPC a common weapon? In Halo the fuel ro is so by saying that it is common in the game put almost every Halo weapon grabs for MC.
Sparky might actually be avialable to MC. I thought about it and MC is in Sparky’s sense, a recliamer. Thus making mC sort of like a partial master. Sparky is also very common in mC’s later life. He is working with/for MC in lots of the parts in the first and third game. If MC does have Sparky avialable, then MC defienatly has this in the bag, even more so than he did before.
@the man with The Answers
First of Guitly Spark is outside help. Second the TPC is very rapid fire. Third MC could get a headshot. But not very likely depending on where the fighters start out. As stated by Zachalink the Hive Cannon will be an instent kill on Chief even with the Mjonir Mark 6. The Hive Cannon is basically your Fuel Rod Cannon(I like the gun to) but with a better fireing rate. And as stated by Pometheous during a confersation between him and Mr. Ford. Drudge Wepons do not use Plasma they use a distinct bio-mass capable of multiple differnt type’s of damage. I think I have made a point of arguing how Agent Ford could win. Master Chief has a pretty good chance himself. But with Ford’s Aresanal of wepons and the ASE I think he wins easy.
…….Just because the TPC fires fast doesn’t mean the individual shots move as fast as bullets, how is it so hard for you to understand that. The Plasma Rifle fires extremely fast, but the speed of the individual plasma bolts are no where near the speed of a bullet. MC dodges those all the time so………
Also, if the weapon you stated is like the fuel rod, than how can it kill MC in a single shot? In The novel The Flood, MC is hit by a fuel rod shot and gets right back up and annihalets the hunter that shot him.
Actually, I don’t care for the fuel rod. I just like the distinct difference thats due because it is not plasma but rather an extremely radio-active and incinidary gel. Otherwise, I only use it as a reference when something needs to be atomized.
I still don’t know what speeds that ford can move at, his physical strength, and the strength of his suit. I’ll due a little research on what this biomass can due, but unless it can melt stuff as well as plasma, or has the piercing qualities of a high caliber round, it would be useless against the armour that mc wears.
The TPC only has 10 shots a clip with meduim range. It also has a moderatly small plasma explosion. Not the best weapon…
Wow, The hive canon is even more pathetic. It has low e damage, Probably won’t even get through the suit,. Seriously, it shoots Paramite egg sacs….. How is that supposed to get through the armour?
Fords best chance is to stick with plasma based weaponry. Even High caliber balistics are a better weapon choice…
Oh really. The Strike Rifle would be do quite well aganist MC. But I do agree with you about sticking w/ Plasma. The Trust Wepons(TPC, Detomizer, others) are much more powerful then MC Plasma Rifle, Carbine, and such. AND you seem to be counting out the ASE which could make this match go oneway or another. And about the Hive Cannon Paramite Egg Sacs disolve differnt surfaces they touch while I dobt they could get though the energy sheild if Ford got Master Chief’s shield down and shot with the Hive Cannon it would dislove the Mjonir Armour. And to the Fuel Rod thing where MC shrug it off. In Ghost of Onyx Will got shot point blank and yes it did disolve Will. But once more Ford’s ASE, Trust Suit, Drudge and Trust wepons might be able to take down MC.
No, Will’ armour was extemely heaed and melted. It was also weakend from non-stop combat for longer than 24 hours under extreme condition. Its a wonder the armour lasted that long. The only time a fuel rod shot has atomized someone, was when a S-III got shot piont-blank. THis armor was also under incredible stress and the SPI suits are incredibly weaker than the Mark 5 or 6 suits the S-IIs were whereing.
I never said that the drudge weapons ere available. Earth hasn’t had time to collect foriegn weapons like the UNSC did with the Covenant. Thats why MC uses Covenant weapons because they have obtained them through stealing and looting from dead bodies.
Later I will put all the weapons down in comparison to MC’s abilities and what he has lived through.
No you didn’t say Drudge wepons were availbe but if Ford normally has Drudge wepons with him. I think very well that Ford has Drudge wepons for this fight. And yeah the SPI suits suck.
I’vebeen putting off the list of weapons but I’m getting to it.
I know nothing of Agent Fords weapons, however, What ever type of agent he is I’m sure he has a standard issue. If he was leaving his head quarters to go do a standard mission, I highly doubt he’s taking fully automatic plasma cannon or an egg sac dispenser… c’mon now, how would he carry a full load of gear, in a big ol’ backpack? not very incogneto if you ask me. Standard gear for MC during sustained operations would logically include:
Battle Rifle
Sniper Rifle or shotgun but not both
pistol
grenades
and deployable bubble shield from Halo 3
Anything more would get in the way and ruin the or wouldn’t be readily available after resupply and redeployment.
Mc would win Here Comes my Fanboy Talk I apolgiez /Mc has 30 years under his belt of training at a young age able to move faster than a olympic runner was able to Injure two and kill one Odst ,do YOU GET WAT i’M SAYING I MEAN oDST’S STRONGER THAN MARINES BY 5 TIMES MAYBE AND AT A YOUNG WAS ABLE TO TAKE 3 AND WITH THE INJECTIONS AND ALL THOSE PROCEDURES AND THE ARMOR WHICH INCREASE HIS STRENGTH ,REACTION AND SKILLS AND YOU SAY THAT THIS GUY CAN BEAT mC ARE YOU CRAZY ALL HE HAS TO DO TO KILL THIS GUY IS JUST THROW A TANK AT HIM MC IS LIKE HERCULES COMPARED TO THIS GUY MC IS WAY STRONGER HE IS THE COMPLETE VERSION OF A SUPERHUMAN THERSES NO WAY.
God. really. At least the the man with The Answers would look up information.
@Sapper007(You go first)
Why yes Agent Ford leaves his “HQ” with a fully-automatic plasma launcher it is part of his wepons. Considering on almost every mission of The Conduit, you start outwith one form or another of Trust weponry wich is plasma based. Such as the TPC and Detomizer. Which could desingrate a person. And do not even get me started on the ASE which seems to be overlooked.
@Zeppher
I have nothing to say you. Since as you said you are a fanboy.
@the man with The Answers
I am quite enjoying the debate with you on the other hand.
@ Cpt epic what terrain would they be fighting on, arena no cover, urban w/plenty of cover, jungle etc… does the TPC or Deatomier have any penetration on cover, whats the rate of fire for the plasma launcher and explain the ASE please…
I try to make objective judgements, I know much more about halo USNC weapons because of their real-world comparisions. And i wouldn’t be very objective of me without knowing anything about the other weapons. Which would begin the fanboyisms: ignoring physics and ballistics and anatomy and those sort of things…
@Zapper007
To tell you the truth you got me on penetration. I don’t feel like typing so here I go. The ASE(All-seeing eye) is a device developed by The Trust it can diasabl many computers and other technology. (cloaking is one) So there is a chance The ASE could drain energy sheilds. Ford also has an arsenal of Human wepons. Shotgun, Battle Rifle thing, Sub-machine gun, rocket launcher, Pistol ect. Drudge wepons. Warp pistol, Strike rifle, Hive cannon. And numour Trust weponry. Hope this helped and thanks for not getting mad. I probally didn’t deal with the last comment right. sorry.
So, assuming that the ASE does does drop shields, and he wields his standard full auto plasma thing, that is assumed a multiple hit weapon weapon, heat transfer through armor would be key, a deatomize would probably deatomize armor, in small sections, still taking multiple shots, where as then its even game. all of the MC’s advantages would be moot after several shots
that being said all of that takes time…
time for mc to return fire…
so what is agent fords survivability, base it within reality though, just become in a game you can take multiple canon shots for no good reason, doesnt mean its true… does he regen or have shields?
@sapper plain and simple sapper go play the conduit you fuking dumb shit
@Sapprer007
Ford has regenrateing shields. The suit also repairs his injury. So you are saying If Ford can survive a Hive Cannon mutiple times he can’t? Cause he can.
I am going to explain Drudge weponary. Drudge wepornary relies on biomass which is more effective then plasma. Ford has a wepon I forgot to tell about. THE SKIMMER! It shoots a biomass ball. That follows the target then explodes. I can’t believe I forgot that.
@Pvt Elite, plain and simple, go buy it for me ship it to me and play hide and go screw yourself… while your out shopping for my new game buy yourself balls and a dictionary… and thesarus…
@captian Eric… if he has shielding its game over with stadard weaponry for MC… sounds like the same for non standard weaponry
@Sapper007
Lol nice come back.
And yeah I think Ford gets it. But I will not count out MC. He is my favorite character.
@sapper007 hey, why don’t you get your fat ass out of your moms basement and pull 50 bucks out your ass and buy it yourself. And while your there change your fuking icon looks your giving a guy a blow job . And fuck you unlike me i spelt nothing wrong and your dumb ass spell captain epic as captain eric you fuking dumb go fucking get molested.
@Pvt. Elite
You fail. I say this cause I know you. Quit spaming!!!!!!
@Pvt Elite like my mom’s basement, very spa ious… plus its ool in the summer and warm in the winter. And just be ause my i on an give himself blowjobs… doesn’t mean my i on is gay. And as for icons and names… PVT Elite?? does that mean your the worst of the best??? That su ks… not that i would know anything about being elite…
(C’s were omitted from my post purposefully…)
@Sapper007 Before you start being a dumb sh!t again learn to type you type like you have arthritis in both hands and a guy penis shoved up your arse. And names you can be a f#cking Pvt and kick @ss all day including dumb f#ckers(Sapper007), you don’t gotta be a f#cking commander or general so go suck one. Oh and of course you don’t know anything about being elite because all you do is stay in your moms basement, waking off to g#y porn.
ok, I don’t mind a few comments, but this is just too much, let’s all take a chill pill – Admin
@admin!!!!!!!!!!
I can back hand Pvt. Elite in real life.
well given Captain epic is thirteen… and knows Pvt Elite personally… one would assume the age is similiar… so that being said… tsk tsk
Wow Pvt. Elite i’m almost shocked. Didn’t know you had that in you. You usually seem calm.
@Sapper
I have been trying to get Pvt. Elite to say sorry. But he won’t at the moment. So I say sorry. But anyways Do you think Ford would win?
It doesnt matter, he doesnt have to say he is sorry, he has to live with himself. Thats punishment enough. No, I don’t see how MC could pull this one off. He would most certainly win a few times. but over 100 battles i would have to give it to Ford about 60% of the time
Kinda like Deadlyist Warrior? I like that show.
Deadliest warrior Rules!
Anyways…….
I completed my weapons list!
USP45-Won’t pierce the armour…
SCAR-Might pierce the suit but won’t get through the gel layer. Not the best choice for Ford.
MP5KA4-not a very good choice….
SPAS 12-Not looking so hot
SMAW-Definatly can hurt MC, but the reload time and small amount of ammo carried is a big drawback
TPC-Another OK weapon. The small clip is a drawback, but the small plasma explosion will do some damage. This weapon is similier to the brute shot, and is the best weapon so far.
De atomizer mk4- Only breaks down organic materials, meaning it could only hurt MC’s flesh.
Carbonizer Mk16- Best by far so far. The beam it fires slowly gets stronger as long as it is held out. Similar
to a sentinal beam, which even S-IIIs can fight against.
Frag Grenade-basic grenade that will be good for getting the shields down, but only the major blast will harm the suit.
Flash Bang-won’t even get past Chief’s polarized face-plate
I did not include Drudge weapons due to them not being Trust or Human. As I’ve explained, MC gets plasma weapons due to the fact that The UNSC has obtained them through the war, unlike the humans have in The Conduit.
I would like to know more about Fords Physical capabilities. I can’t find anything about them on the wiki.
Triple post, sorry.
Bio-mass better than plasma? Maybe in the Conduit universe. From what I can tell, Halo plasma seems to be much stronger than Conduit plasma. If the suit can take hive canon shots, all it means is the shields drop from the impact of the biomass, which wouldn’t do that much. The acidic stuff might do well against skin and the armour, but it won’t stand a chance against the super-dense alloys,metal mesh,gel-layer,and the nano-fiber suit that is all part of MC’s suit.
Yeah I think you may be right with Halo Plasma>Conduit Biomass and from what is seems to me is that Ford would be best with the Carbonizer and TPC. Ford is basically a normal human except his suit allows him to run faster and jump higher then normal humans. It is basically like Master Chief agumations. But you forget the ASE IF it can drop MC’s shields which it most likely can. as stated by me and Sapper. Then MC could easly get killed by the TPC/Carbonizer. Although I still belive Ford should have acess to Drudge wepons it is the admins call. So that was a good list btw. But I think the ASE will be Master Chiefs downfall in this match.
@admin
Does Agent Ford get acess to Drudge wepons for this match?
Yes – Admin
well admin said it… Game over for MC without shielding and vs drudge weapons he wouldn’t outlast AF
@Sapper
It has been decided. I agree with what you said. The Skimer, Hive Cannon, and Strike Rifle means game over for the Spartan. No to mention the ASE.
Yep this would be a straight up shoot out with Ford coming out on top
It’s called a Battle Rifle and since I know that Humans don’t have skulls as thick as Humans the MC would win. Even a piece of shrapnel from a grenade would kill him why do you think we wore helmets in WWII not because they could stop bullets but because they added just a little bit more protection.
I am normally not rude to people on Factpile but…
Its called reading the giant epic debate that is in front of your comment before commenting on somthing that you will either fall or have your mind changed by me. Such as I have done with Sapper, ss, and Dante Chief(In Real Life), and wtf bomber(In Real Life)
I didn’t really know much about Agent Ford in the first place. Though looking at the comments he would win.
You didn’t really change my mind. Though you did present me with enough information to place my vote on him.
Whatever same thing.
Sorry if i’m being a know-it-all right now. Sometimes just happens.
@Dante, ::in his most Napoleon Dynamitesque voice::
Gosh… why doya GOT to be like that dante… Gosh
@Sapper007
I said I was sorry. GOSH!…………….LOL!
kip hasnt done flippin anything all day… gosh
Interesting question here. I checked the wiki and it said nothing about the ASE having any offensive capabilities. So how can it drain the shields? Lets not forget MC’s reaction time. Fast enough to get a headshot at close range before Ford can respond. even a newly trained militia soldier proved heuld pull that off on a grunt. (Jenkins in contact Harvest).
ford may have regenerating regenerating health but the chief has overshields and not to mention that fords health is so slow when it comes to regeneration, all the chief has to do is use the grav hammer, energy sword, beam rifle……okay any weapon. ford is gonna get his butt kicked no matter what, and the chief also has an army on his side…..all that ford has is the ASE with promethius’s consciousness inside of it……..ford losses too easily that’s about it
@sonofhades:
Did you read the debate? Do you not know the outside help rule? Does your mom dress you in bright yellow clothing on it with wording on it you can’t quite understand?
‘Cause you’re retarted.
@sonofhades:
Did you read the debate? Do you not know the outside help rule? Does your mom dress you in bright yellow clothing with wording on it you can’t quite understand?
‘Cause you’re retarted.
@The Guy Who is Actually Intelligent
I’m sure your moms dick is smooth enough by now so you can pull it out of your throat when your done choking on it. That’s when i didn’t know that outside help was not allowed.
@sonofhades
It was pretty much desided that Ford takes with Trust and Drudge wepons.
@ Captain Epic
I’ve played a lot of the conduit and believe me he’s not that powerful compared to the Chief, besides if MC goes and does that trick with his suit where he runs so fast he’s a blur, all he would have to do is knock him down and take his weapon then shoot him in the head, Ford doesn’t even get the ASE which would be his only chance of survival.
I’m not sure if this debate is still ongoing, but I’d like to contribute a few things. My money would be on Ford because of one thing – a gap in technology.
In The Conduit, Trust weapons (the Trust is a top-secret human organization) are powered by energy cells that are converted into high-powered plasma bursts. The De-atomizer MK4 and TPC Launcher can both completely desintegrate targets (I don’t know yet about the Carbonizer, haven’t found it).
Compared to Halo plasma, I’m sure it’s safe to say that the humans in The Conduit are more advanced in technology. The most advanced standard weapon (that I’m aware of) that is human based in Halo is the Spartan Laser, which wouldn’t help MC because of it’s charge time (that is, in comparison to, say, the De-atomizer which takes about a quarter of the amount of time to fully charge, and is fully capable of a similar amount of damage).
Now when you look at Drudge weaponry, these firearms are powered by, and I quote, “…a unique bio-mass that can be converted into a variety of damage effects. It’s much more versitle than a plasma core and several times as deadly.” All Drudge weapons can instantly desintegrate nearly all enemies in the game (although the Warp Pistol and Strike Rifle need to be charged first). Compare these weapons to Trust firearms, which are presumably equal to Covenant technology (and that’s a generous comparison), and Ford has access to technology that could blow away most enemies in Halo instantly, including Master Chief.
(This is my first post on Factpile)
@ΩOmegaClawsΩ – Welcome to the ‘Pile.
Hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm……pretty interesting match. I actually played The Conduit and I have to say that Agent Ford has a really good chance at beating Master Chief. He could disable Master Chiefs shields with the ASE or just burn through them with radiation grenades. Once Master Chief’s shield is down Ford could just tear into him with the Carbonizer MK16.
Michale Ford for the factpile award anybody.
I forgot to mention that Ford’s Trust Armor can also heal any damage that Master Chief could put on him. Although I definetly would NOT pit Michale Ford against Samus Aran(at least not before seeing what Ford gets in The Conduit 2 at least).
Now we just need to get these guys in a match.
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Does anybody else agree about Ford winning this match?
“Does anybody else agree about Ford winning this match?”
So uuuuhhhhh………anybody agree?
The Drudge weapons would also probably just desintagrate Master Chief as well.
I’d still like to know how Master chief could actually win this fight.
@Negative Zero
He’s not whipping boy of site anymore, which gives him a chance…
Is Agent Ford a normal human? Or is he enhanced somehow like with a powered suit or bio enhancements? Because if not, then the Chief wins.
“Is Agent Ford a normal human? Or is he enhanced somehow like with a powered suit or bio enhancements? Because if not, then the Chief wins.”
He is enhanced. He has Trust Armor which increases his speed and heals damage relatively quickly. Plus Ford can use the ASE to hack Chief’s shield or he could just burn the shield completely with radiation grenades. After the shields are down Ford can just tear into him with the Carbonizer MK16.
@Negative
I’m sorry, but the Carbonizer does’t seem to be able to get an effect on MC. Because I destinctly remember seeing him get hit by at least 3 Hunter Assault beams at the same time and having only knocked him down. Then, not even a minute later, he stuck a Chieftan in the balls with a sticky nade.
“@Negative
I’m sorry, but the Carbonizer does’t seem to be able to get an effect on MC. Because I destinctly remember seeing him get hit by at least 3 Hunter Assault beams at the same time and having only knocked him down. Then, not even a minute later, he stuck a Chieftan in the balls with a sticky nade.”
Trust me the Carbonizer MK16 is a LOT stronger than you think it is. It can completely vaporize something in about 2 seconds. Besides Ford could also just use Drudge weapons, all of which can also vaporize people. I understand why you think Master Chief would win. If I never played The Conduit I probably would have sided with the Chief as well.
Well I haven’t played Conduit. It was good I trust?
What effect would the Splazer have on Ford?
“Well I haven’t played Conduit. It was good I trust?”
It was actually a pretty decent game.