Well, as much as I’d like to see this match, I’m not sure how long it would last. MC has handled this type of opponent before and Hale just might not have enough to finish the Chief off.
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Well, as much as I’d like to see this match, I’m not sure how long it would last. MC has handled this type of opponent before and Hale just might not have enough to finish the Chief off.
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Is this the guy from resistance? I don’t a great deal about resistance but wouldn’t it be somewhat like fighting Jack carver? I’ll wait on this one.
I disagree with MC being able to kill hale easily- is it infected hale with deadalus’s powers or not?
If it is then MC doesn’t stand a chance. I can just imagie MC charging his lazer only to be hit by Hales crazzy powers and explode in a mix of body parts and armour. I suppose this comment will be torn apart with facts and figures on how amazing chiefs armour is and how strong he is without armour aswell-you know the stuff its on all chief related pages on the ‘pile-but still, I think Hale would win this with his electricity/ force style powers.
YES! MY NUMBER ONE REQUEST HAS BEEN ACCEPTED!
Hale would litterally point at the Chief and he would explode. I’m not eveb joking. Look up the last mission on Resistance 2. Nathan Hale also possesses the ability to regenrate extremely quickly. Hale also possesses and can use a wide variety of weapons, from energy shots that can travel through solid objects to the focused beam of the pulse cannon.
Im getting bored-come on MC fans, stick up for the chief so we can rip yo apart.
c’mon I’m asking nicely, I eve said pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. see.
since it is infected Hale, there is no reason why he cant use the “force.” Also, I’m betting the Pulse cannon could do some serious damage to the Chief. A focused beam of pure electricity. That’d short circuit him. Also, with Hales assortment of grenades that’d give him a serious advantage. Standard Frag grenades (self explanatory), Hedgehog grenades ( a grenade that detects movement and then sends out spikes in evry direction), Air fuel grenades (a grenade that sticks to surfaces, unleashing a cloud of gas. A couple of seconds this gas ignites into a fiery cloud), Proximity mines (self explanatory), Spider grenades (unleashed a fiery web that graduallu expands across the floor, spewing out flames in all direction.) In the even that Chief tries to rocket/Spartan Lazer Hale, he can always pull out an Auger and use the shield. Nothing can penetrate through its shields.
I really hate to say this but you asked for an argument. Okay Master Chief wins. He always wins.
jk
I have never played Resistance but if Hale can point at someone and they die i don’t see how he can’t lose. Chief is no push over but this guy sounds win. So I think he will win.
Chief. Easy.
He can run insanely fast and dodge Hale. He has like… a 6 milliesecond reaction time- seriously, I can post a link. He’d easily pull the trigger on his BR right into Hale’s head. Then blow his body apart. You’re all fanboys if you think Hale can win.
Don’t even try to call me a fanboy, I admit Chief can lose to some. But he can’t lose to Hale.
Pokezilla, I own all consoles so I’m not a fanboy either, but when a guy can just look at you and boom your dead, you kind of have to give him the upper hand
Yah, Infected nathan hale will Destroy MC. No question.
Okay. If Nathan is so powerful, why didn’t he just look at the Leviathan (spell?) and kill it? Or why did he get shot in the head and die? Couldn’t he have just looked at that guy?
Also, all human weapons would have no effect on Master Chief, besides the highly primitive WW2 grenades that would barely do any damage. Also, Covenant Plasma> Chimera weapons. Master Chief alos has luck, 6 milliesecond reaction time, and intense speed. He’d fire his BR at the same time Hale ‘looked’ at him, and kill Hale.
I still don’t think that Hale is as powerful as you say.
umm just to clear up your earlier questions, Hale didn’t look at the Leviathan and he exploded ‘cus that was before he killed deadalus (why do they all have such complex names????). It was deadalus that gave Haale the powers. If it were Hale without his powers then he’d have no chance. The only weapons able to (mabye) hurt MC would be pulse cannon or the auger (only cus it goes through anything and I mean ANYTHING) but without powers Hale would allmost certainly die within 5 seconds.
Oh and do fanboys write that? admiting that their character could loose??
We also don’t know that Hale is dead, it never actually states that he is. Though he probably should be.
One last question -What do BR’s fire??? I don’t think its plasma, but its something I’d like to get get cleared up in my head.
@reclaimer- I don’t want an arguement, I want a debate where we can sort things out. Though I think you gave a very fair judgement in your first comment.
1. Hale wasn’t fully infected during his fight with the Leviathan.
2. Actually, there is no evidence to support that Nathan Hale is dead, okay he got shot through the head at the end of Resistance 2. But don’t forget, Malikov stated that neither could live whilst the other survived. So hale has his own extreme powers, and also absorbed Deadalus’ powers.
3. Could you specify what you mean by “that guy”?
Seeing as the title states that it is “infected,” Nathan Hale, this means that he has full access to his “force,” ability. Hale points and Chief, and chief explodes.
I think Hale would win in a head on fight. but if MC was able to ambush or snipe Hale, he would easily win.
Actually, as for your snipe comment. The Fareye gives the illusion that it stops time. For the user, time slows down as the user focuses on its target. Chief would have a Fareye bullet through his head before he took a shot at Hale.
As for Hale being dead, I highly doubt it. Hale is the main character of the Resistance series, they wouldn’t just kill him off. In the even that Hale dies, It’ll most likely be Capelli or the her for Resistance: Retribution that takes his place.
BRs fire 3 lead bullets at an insanely fast rate. Chief could Snipe Hale from many, many, many, meters away, Hale wouldn’t know what happened.
Also, It’ll be hard for Hale to point at Chief when he’s running faster then Hale can point.
“BRs fire 3 lead bullets at an insanely fast rate. Chief could Snipe Hale from many, many, many, meters away, Hale wouldn’t know what happened.
Also, It’ll be hard for Hale to point at Chief when he’s running faster then Hale can point.”
If the BR fires in bursts with a delay in between then it isn’t that fast. MC but Do you know how fast Hale is. Do you?
Don’t abuse the f-word(not fuck). We have all matured from being fanboys.
When I said snipe, I meant through a camoflagued position at considerable range. Hale can’t focus on him if he doesn’t know were he is. Also Battra Boy, why would they kill off MC? He is the main character from Halo, which is considerably more popular than resistance. Anyways, these battles arn’t what the game designers want, they are battles as if it were real life, no designer pulling the strings.
” He is the main character from Halo, which is considerably more popular than resistance.” please for the sake of this debate don’t bring popularity into the equation- it has nothing to to with the matter at hand.
Oh and say, by some miraculous, for use of a better word, cock up on MCs part in that the br shots didn’t hit Hals head, he would regenerate them as they are only lead. i don’t know wether he could regenerate plasma. Thats something i will look into.
@the man with the answers, where does BB say anything about killing MC off. (Now I’m confused) Also of course they won’t ever kill off MC-he’s a huge cash cow for microsoft(and I don’t blame them). So, to sum up I’m not really sure what your post was about. It just seems a bit like a rant to me. (and so is this post).
I didn’t say Chief was killed off. Don’t put words into my mouth. And as for “Lolz0Rs Ch13F Sni1eps h1m fr0m li3k 4ges aw4y.” It really depends on the terrain they’re fighting on. As for the Halo is more popular than Resistance, I never stated is wasn’t. Halo has been out for about 9 years now. Resistance is about 2 years old now. If your talking burstfire weapons, then Hale has one too. The Marksman. This weapon can be used in close combat aswell as for sniping. The weapon’s secondary fire also fire electrostatic orbs, being able to pinpoint Chief’s co-ordinates, whilst sending shocks of electricity through his body at the same time. As for Chief would just snipe Hale? Hale has survived numerous blasts from Titan’s fireballs, Titans are creatures approximately 40ft tall that shoot continuous fireballs, escaped an exploding tower with about 5 seconds to spare, hes the ONLY person to wake up after being administered with the virus. Hes healed attacks from thousands of bullets. Single handedly stopped the Chimera from ceasing Europe, and taken out the “leader,” of the Chimeran forces (Deadalus.) As Hale has killed Deadalus, and absorbed his powers… one could assume that Hale is now the Chimeran leader. As for “hale can’t find chief to blow him up,” Ever heard of bullet spamming? Well this is “force,” spamming. Even when Hale was uninfected, he still took on a wide range of Chimeran forces and always resulted in the victor, Including:
Several 300ft robotic like arachnid beasts, Goliaths leimrod.com/wp-content/gallery/resistance2/resistance-2-20080126000730300_640w.jpg
About one hundred Stalkers, mechanical 40ft droids that fire large ammounts of rockets and fire energy projectiles. z.about.com/d/playstation/1/0/F/A/R2_render_stalker_tif_jpgcopy.jpg
A leviathan, A 30ft Chimeran monstrosity that terrorises whole cities farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/3002312107_7dff35065e.jpg
Several hundred titans, beast that shoot fireballs every few seconds www.psu.com/media/resistance-2/site_resistance-2-ss-89.jpg
Several Widowers, extremely tall spider like chimera which shoot organic mines
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Several thousand Chimeran Hybrids/Advanced Hybrids
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Angels, Giant flying squid like creatures which shoot energy images.wikia.com/resistancefallofman/images//b/bb/Angel3.jpg
And Krakens, Large Gigant squid esque modified creatues, there are apparantly thousands of them inhabiting the seas 3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNl6ay3CAPo/Sd-DTdxUmNI/AAAAAAAAAGU/fyV5vwj-7dA/s400/kraken.jpg
And of course, Daedaulus himself, Leader of the Chimeran army. Daedalus was orginially Private John Shephard whom mutated due to the virus, eventuallt becoming top of the Chimeran Hierarchy. 4.bp.blogspot.com/_FNl6ay3CAPo/Sd-DTgVItaI/AAAAAAAAAGc/0nWzm0fzSlU/s400/daedalus.jpg
MasterChief can’t just snipe his way through all of his enemies, here is an enemy that Masterchief can not defeat.
( Sorry for the double post, but the Leviathan is 300ft, not 30ft.)
MC has battled millions of Covenant and Flood.
Have you played Halo 3′s campaign? The last level? Or the level ‘Cortana’?
Master Chief has also killed multiple Scarabs, and if you’ve read the comics, he’s conquered entire spaceships. And survived the destruction of the ark, and the Halo ring, and the separation of Forward Unto Dawn. AND, he has slapped away a rocket with his hand.
Master Chief’s reaction time, and just plain senses would kill Hale. Also, Flood Combat forms have increases jumping and strength, similar to Hale.
By the way, MC survived Fuel rod cannons being fired from 6 or 8 hunters, and he’s killed Chieftains, Zealots, and more.
MC wins.
Wow, thats a lot of achievements, and yet they mean nothing when someone can point at you and you explode. I am very aware of the Chief’s powers, but do you know the slightest thing about Sgt. Nathan Hale? From what you’ve said, I’m presuming you’ve chosen not to research Hale’s powers and immeadiately state “MasterChief wins.”
“MasterChief can’t just snipe his way through all of his enemies,” Actually he probably could considering how rediculosly easy the halo 3 sniper is to use. (sorry another moan about halo 3).
-Yes I have played the whole halo 3 campign. Yes I saw how many enemys there were. I then sold my 360 brought a ps3 and resistance 2. Then I saw how many chimera there were in one battle and thought wow, thats a fair few (I then died alot). so in comparison Hale has faced similar numbers to the flood (at one time-I know there are more flood in total then there are Chimera).
-scarabs really arn’t too difficult to kill- shoot conveniently placed power core=dead scarab.
-one last thing Hales faces this enemy with no armour, just standard military green outfit(you know the one) and his regeneration powers. MC faces his enemys with some suit that everyone goes on about how strong and brilliant it is.(yet it can be damaged by lead, the same lead thats fired from a lowly carbine, so I’m pretty sure Hale could use his guns to some (if lesser) effect against MC’s suit.
_and a question- what do bullsyes and other chimera weapons fire?
Yeah, I’d like to see Hale lower a Scarab, then kill the crew.
Brutes would murder him.
Also, read the books, bullets do not affect MC, they did that for gameplay.
As I said, its hard to point at someone when their incredibly far away, and you can’t see them. Or when they’re running circles around you at high speed, then BRing you in the head.
Chimera are incredibly weak compared to MC. The toughest Chimera would be like a a Brute Captain to MC, unless of course it was one of those huge ones.
I presume its some sort of focused energy blast or plasma. I’ll do some research.
My guess is energy.
By the way, I forgot to say, that you guys are fun to argue with, you all post good, hard, points, and aren’t just silly fanboys like alot I argue with.
*thumbs up*
“Chimera are incredibly weak compared to MC.”
I will disagree there, The chimera have used human hosts as thier main army block. The Chimera have to put “exhausts” On the infected soldiers to keep them from violently exploding. Also, The Chimerian virus increases the hosts motabolism by 12 times. Thats the standared foot soldier there.
Lets say an average human can lift 100 kilograms. times that by twelve and you get 1,200 kilograms. So that is 1,200 kilograms of force being excerted on you.
Now, Back to the discussion at hand, Nathan has been hit in close combat by chimera, And he is wearing no “Uber suit” Nathan has also been hit by commander chimera, They are 3 times larger then your average chimera. So this would expodentially increase their natural strength. Combined with increased motabolism would lead to at least 3 tonnes of force being excerted on a man without any armour. ( Nathan Hale )
Who is the man? (The infected one)
halo.wikia.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_Augmentation_Procedures
^ That link shows what Spartan 2′s can do, then how fast master Chief can run.
Note how super-human they are.
Now, most of the highest stats on that page, are from the Mark V armor, when in Mark VI, it would increase by nearly 2x. That is insane.
Now, when in his uber suit, a Brute, just a single Brute, was able to beat him hand to hand. A normal, combat Brute. MC has killed thousands of those, and also higher ranks, such as Captains, and Chieftains. He has also beat Elite Zealots, which are strong in general, but also have insane skill, and 3x overshields. He has also beaten Flood Combat Forms, which increase the strength of the original person/alien by 2x. Then there is the Flood Tank form, which is 3x more powerful than Chief. Don’t forget Hunters, with their armor being that of a Space Cruiser, they can crush nearly anythig, and their super plasma cannons are that of a Scarab. Chief survived six or 8 blasts from them in a comic. Also, no lead bullets would affect Chief- read the books.
By the way, did I mention Chief can run at 65 MPH? Yeah.
Did I also mention that it is possible for him to BEAT DOWN a Scarab’s INSANE STRONG Knee Cap armor?
Let’s not forget that he crashed from space to Earth, then got up a minute afterward, and put a pistol to the Arbiter’s head. He did that RIGHT AFTER he FELL FROM SPACE.
Sorry for double post, but the “he did it with no armor” is dumb. That means Chimera weapons are insanely weak, not to mention his REGENERATION.
Regeneration means regeneration, so it didn’t matter whether or not he had strong armor.
And as I said, Chimera weapons must be insane weak.
Gosh, I’m horribly sorry for a triple, but…
I went on as many websites I could find, and watched every video I found, and I read, and saw that Daedalus has NO SUCH POWERS. He has some electric type powers and such, but no pointing and exploding. Hale stands no chance. At all.
Bye.
We didn’t say Daedalus harboured such a power, Nathan Hale does. If you did your research correctly, then you would have found that on the last mission of Resistance 2, Hale does have the “force,” power. For your sake, any anyone else’s that cannot or will not find said video, here is a link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Y7sykw4o4
As you can see in the video, Hale absorbs a deceased Daedalus’ power, making him fully infected. You will also witness Hale escaping from a Chimeran warship, using his force powers to annihilate everyything in his path.
There are several points of yours I would like to pick apart.
1. “Chimera are incredibly weak compared to MC.”
This is an example of a blanket statement. You have not provided any evidence to back up your theory. Chimera are definately not weak. In just 3 days, the whole of Russia was infected. And in addition, Russia was infected by the lowliest form of Chimera. Crawlers. These alien virus carriers are the Chimeran’s primary method of infectuing humans. They deploy in locust-like swarms from Spires- gigantic shard-like projectiles- that are launched into main cities. Crawlers enter humans via the nearest orifice and inject their venom before dying. The victim will then fall into a coma and suffer a major genetic attack. Mutation into one of several horrific alien species inevitably follows. With that being said, that is the most basic form of Chimera. And as for saying the toughest Chimera is like a brute? Although there hasn’t been a particular Chimera identified as the most powerful, your logic here is flawed. Lets say, for example, that the Leviathan is the most powerful Chimera (although this has not beeon confirmed), can a 300ft sky scraper mashing monstrosity be taken down like a Brute? The answer? No.
2. “Chimera weapons must be insane weak.”
Yet another blanket statement. Lets just look at two Chimeran weapons for now. The Auger and the Bullseye. Firstly, the Auger fires a power bolt that penetrates through solid objects. This, obviously, renders cover useless. The velocity and force of the bolt increases with every target it penetrates. The secondary fire creates a defensive plasma net that blocks all non-Auger fire. This shield has been known to withstand instant and direct hits from a Pulse cannon. A weapon that fires a concentrated highly powered beam of electricity. Not to mention the fact that the Auger also gives the ability to see through solid objects, making sure that there is no where that an enemy can hide.
Now, moving onto the Bullseye. This chimeran weapons launches homing tagsthat attract fire no matter which way the barrel is facing. This weapon also fires a 70 “bullet,” clip in about 10 seconds flat. Not to mention that the Bullseye Mark II has a different, blue power cell that boosts ammunition to near one-shot-kill capacity. I didn’t even mention the Auger Mark II, that weapon includes a stronger shield with a shield that harbours a larger surface area.
Notice how the Chimera do nothing to stop him, they stand still, shooting. And that was not pointing and exploding, that was thrusting his fists forward, by aiming at them. Let’s see him fire point at something running 65 MPH. Also, the things he pointed at were no more than 20 feet away. MC could sprint far away.
As for your points, here is what I say:
1. First off, I didn’t mean they were weak in general in that statement, but compared to MC they actually are. They took over Russia in 3 days? That’s cool. In the words of Rtas’ Vadam- “A single Flood Spore can destroy an entire species.” And you know what? They did. On more then one occasion. ENTIRE SPECIES. Mc took care of that- he swept High Charity, twice, may I add, and also the Rebuilt Delta Halo, twice may I add again. Also saved Earth from the Covenant, and the Flood. As for the strongest Chimera, I meant the hardest to kill, and if you read, I said BESIDES the huge ones. Oh, and they are infected by genetic attacks and mutation? That’s cool. A Flood Spore rips into your spinal cord and brain, killing you, then revives you with a spray-like thing and tentacles, moving your head in horrible ways, and decimates your body, then gains your memories, all while you are alive.
2. The Augers fire a boly huh? Cool. I’d like to see it catch something running at 65 MPH, and then break its vastly more advanced shields. Cool shield too. But there’s a few problems- you’d be dead my 3 BR bullets or more, or a Sniper round before you pulled the trigger, and two, it has to wear out sometime doesn’t it? or else Resistance wouldn’t be fun right? Well, seeing that he runs at 65 MPH, Master Chief can run away/dodge your attacks until it fades, then nail you in the head. And the Bullseye, 70 bullets? 1 hit kill? I hope not. If a 70 bullet, targeting gun with a 1 hit kill was in the game, that’d be a very lame game. Also, who says it would break MC’s shields in one hit before he killed you? Also, the shiled in the Auger, would break by a Spartan Laser, which is very similar to the Auger, is it not? Break everything it touches, its a long bolt?
Let’s not forget that MC has Bubble Shields, Power Drains, Flares, Regenerators, etc.
*I meant ‘bolt’ not ‘boly’
mmmhh…interesting debate…..still thinking of who to side with….
- pondering fool
A Splazer would break through an Auger shield? I think not. What part of “only Auger fire can pentrate it,” escapes you? As for “bullets can’t harm chief,” I beg to differ. If you play ANY Halo game the Chief canbe killed with very basic weaponry, e.g. a single Frag grenade. the Chief has a suit that vastly enhances his performance, whereas Hale wears standard SRPA uniform.
Okay I was wrong about the Laser. And yes, bullets cannot harm Chief. They only can in the game for gameplay purposes. Read the books before you judge.
“If you play ANY Halo game the Chief canbe killed with very basic weaponry, e.g. a single Frag grenade. the Chief has a suit that vastly enhances his performance, whereas Hale wears standard SRPA uniform”
ever read a halo book?
Actually the original Mk. 4 armor was bullet resistant (could still be penetrated by high caliber rounds), however it is stated that as the armored was upgraded and improved with shielding the plating its self was lessened (to improve mobility) so that the armor is no longer bullet-proof, sustained fire can breach the suit easily, especially in the bodyglove.
Also; for naysayers (Pokezilla) about WW2 weapons, if you look at the stats of Halo weapons the weapons are barley improved if at all in some areas, the human frag grenade is actually worse than the WW2 American pineapple in terms of force.
MC dosen’t “run” at 65 MPH, he can sprint at around 60 KMH, which equals to around 37 MPH. You MC people really need to learn whats important and what’s not. Same with the reaction time, reaction time is an equation regarding amount of input to output time, MC’s reactions in a single input scenario are vastly improved over a normal person but they are not the god-like speeds people keep making it out to be.
And Nathan’s regeneration abilities here are just too much most on MC’s weapons can only keep him phased for a very short amount of time at best.
Commando, you fail.
Read the link I posted eariler. MC runs at 60 MPH.
Also, re-read the Halo books if you haven’t read them- his shields deflect the bullets or something like that, and Needler rounds bounce off. And heck no, are Hale’s regen powers good enough for MC. A few BR rounds to the head, or a Sniper round and he’s gone. The Sniper rounds would tear him to shreds. Commando, I don’t know how much you know about the UNSC’s weapons, but you waaay underestimated them. Have you even read the books?
Do not mistake me with yourself, I have read every book from multiple science fiction universes (including Halo) and processed every technical manual I can find. I have taken multiple courses on ballistics and am an avid collector of firearms and understand their every working, a near-graduate with a degree in the biomedical sciences and have been crushing poorly developed arguments like yours for over a year now.
Now as to the speed thing, it clearly states; *cough*55 KPH (34.155 MPH)*cough*
Only by pushing is body to its very limits and tearing muscles while running from a gunship was he able to reach a righter speed, not something he will just pull out when ever he wanted to. Biologically MC was in a severe survival state, something few of us will only experience one or twice in our lives, even soldiers will not experience it often. The body bypasses all its normal checks and balances that keep it from destroying its self for a short time in order to survive. Similar cases have shown average people lifting objects that most powerlifters couldn’t, obviously an augmented man would be at near superhuman levels in this scenario; MC is no exception, however; the experience combined with his woulds nearly killed him as it probably tore most of his ambulatory muscular tissue and caused severe overuse of his internal organs.
The shield dosen’t deflect bullets rather it seems to disperse the energy of projectiles until they dissipate (in the case of plasma) or become harmless chunks of lead (causing bullets to drop to the ground). The needles also can penetrate MJOLNIR shields so..yeah.
As for weapons lets brings in some facts, rather than your zealous spouting of information. Maybe I was a tad incorrect in assuming that WW 2 weapons compared to UNSC, however even modern weapons surpass them in some areas and thus older weapons by extension of the fact that the only major things to changes since now and then are superior style of manufacture and the advent of cheaper automatics.
From the Deadpool vs. MC thread by L-W
Type: Bullpup Assault Rifle
UNSC MA5C Individual Combat Weapon System:
Action: Short-Stroke Gas-Operated Rotating-Bolt.
Ammunition Type: 7.62×51mm Full Metal Jacket/.308 caliber rounds.
Rate of Fire: 600 Rounds per minute, 10 rounds per second.
Muzzle Velocity: 905 m/s (2970 ft/s).
British L85A1:
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt.
Ammunition Type: 5.56×45mm NATO.
Rate of Fire: 610–775 rounds/min.
Muzzle Velocity: 940 m/s (3,084 ft/s).
Type: Anti-Material Rifle
UNSC 99D-S2 Anti-Matériel:
Action: Gas-Operated.
Ammunition Type: 14.5 x 114mm AP-FS-DS(Armor Piercing, Fin-Stabilized, Discarding Sabot).
Rounds: 4.
Muzzle Velocity: 1450m/s (4,757 ft/s).
Austrian Steyr IWS 2000:
Action: Long recoil Rotating bolt.
Ammunition Type: 15.2 mm (0.6 in) Steyr Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS).
Rounds: 5.
Muzzle Velocity: 1450m/s (4,757 ft/s).
Type: Heavy Machine Gun
UNSC AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun:
Action: Electric.
Ammunition Type: 7.62×51mm SLAP.
Belt size: 200.
Rate of fire: 10 rps.
US GAU-19:
Action: Electric.
Ammunition Type: 12.7×99mm (.50 BMG).
Belt size: 10,000.
Rate of fire: 1,000 or 2,000 rounds per minute.
Type: Fragmentation Grenades
UNSC M9:
Killing radius: 5 meters (16 ft).
Casualty radius: 10 meters (35 ft).
US M67 grenade:
Killing radius: 5 meters (16 ft).
Casualty radius: 15 meters (49 ft).
As you can see UNSC weapons are not an improvement over modern weapons. And the alien tech of the Chimera is unique in a way that puts the Covenant to shame.
Now for the difficult part, regeneration of Hale. My primary argument is that MC has all his “life” held by his armor, after those shields are gone he is a limited durability as proven in the novel First Strike. Hale on the other hand has survived far greater blasts with but his flesh and bone, he’s like Wolverine. Talking thousands of bullets only to regnerate, withstanding the fireballs of Titans, talking the exotic weapons of the Chimera right to his very flesh. This proves a regenerative ability in the extreme. Body shots will be compensated for, Headshots…egh, well that may be MC saving grace if he lands a direct hit and tears most vital systems up, otherwise he will survive. All the while Hale can look at MC and he will simply die. This tilts it toward Hale he weapon is himself, a weapon similar to a rocket launchers amped up with nukes and wiled by a man who just drank a near-lethal amount of Red Bull. MC is going to have to hit a dime-sized target across a large arena within 2 milliseconds of the match start otherwise he will lose. And statistics and not on his side in this department, not even with his enhancements.
No time to spell check, got to go.
Having done some research on the subject, it seems that the firearms presented by the Earths’ military forces during the “Fall of Man” era vastly supersedes the contemporary counterparts of our reality, equaling most modern day weapons in some cases.
The Chimeran weapons are a different story all together; plasma, personal shield generators, depleted uranium rounds etc. If Nathan can survive such impacts against his bare skin then it is certainly a testament to his durability.
Holy cow, Resistance must be one boring game if you can survive thousands of rounds, then regenerate. =/
Also, Halopedia clearly states 65 MPH. If Hale can truly look at people and blow them up, I’m sure that is a life-or-death situation for Chief, and he could run that fast.
Also, placing a Sniper round in Hale’s head would knock him out (coughendofresistance2cough), then Chief could just rip him apart with weapons.
You can’t look at someone and blow them up when they are that far away. I just re-read Fall of Reach for the third time, and I must say, Hale stands no chance.
I am now leaving the subject, goodbye.
Hale’s regeneration surpases Chief’s. He only wears a fabric SRPA suit. Chief’s suit enhances his abilites considerably. With the numermous shields Hale can use, it’ll be difficult for Chief to land a hit. In addition Hale has access to Backlash grenades. “An inspired weapon that provides formidable defensive aswell as offensive capabilities. On detonation, the grenade creates a protective plasma dome that is impervious to weapon fire, while enabling the user to fire out. Cruciall,y the Flashback directs enemy fire back on it’s source, effectively doubling its potency.”
My vote goes for Hale.
Infected Nathan Hale – 1
Master Chief – 0
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“wiled by a man who just drank a near-lethal amount of Red Bull.”-sounds like a holiday I once enjoyed(I think).
Anyway.
65mph isnt that fast, I think that Hale could still hit MC, who would be tearing himself appart to be able to run that fast, if that failed-spam hands in his general direction-one will probably hit. One last thing MC can’t run at 65mph for long and it would tear him appart to do it for a few seconds. so, when he stops he will be a mess-an easy target.
Mmmhmm, I Nominate Infected Nathan Hale for the factpile award for his win over the chief.
The current score:
Infected Nathan Hale – 3
Master Chief – 0
Admin, Can you adminster Hale with his Factpile award?
mmhh on one hand i have a guy who can destroy people by pointing at them using his “force” powers, has extreme regeneration, and is a solder that has some issues with aliens taking over his planet.
on the other hand, we have a supersolder, who has really good armor, super stregnth and speed, and also has a vendetta against aliens….
going to have to give it to Hale, seeing as his issue is more personal (the aliens took over Russia, and all Americans know, we need Russia). ohh and the fact that he can just point and disentagrate (or whatever He does with his magic finger) the MC.
- pondering fool
Infected Nathan Hale – 4
Master Chief – 0
I would like to look futher into this “mind-power” thing. Does NH have to see his opponent?
Does it matter if bullets can take down hs shields? His armour is basically immune to small-medium caliber rounds maybe even some higher caliber rounds to.
But in the end NH wins. While MC could possibly win if he could stay hidden or plant a nuclear bomb escape in time,I don’t see anyway fr MC to win.
Nathan Hale – 5
Master Chief – 0
Admin, I think Hale is due for an FP award here.
seems the guy with the more personal grudge and the magic finger wins!
- pondering fool
wow that was quick- I was expecting more of a fight aww well, the best guy won
Agreed, the best virally infected regenerating force-powered man won.
The only virally infected regenerating force-powered dude with yellow eyes.
NERDS………..
Wow, Such an intelligent statement made by an important user
/sarcasm
So, I take it you’re upset with the Chief’s loss? Well you shoulda showed up earlier and argued in his favour, ’cause this debate is over.
A) We know and are comfortable with being nerds(some of us maybe.)
B) Why are you even here?
first of all master chief is not fast and if master chief is so strong why wont he just take off that suit of his and fight nathan hale without armor and MC has some human weapons too…. so any way hale will destroy chief with or without armor
HALE IS A BEAST!
i just thought of something, hale had the force right before he fully succumbed to the virus, now that he is fully infected and has succumbed to the virus is it possible he has more powers, maybe something like daedalus’ psychokinetic powers?
sorry for the ouble post but this would mean that Hale could probably kill MC even if he could run at 65 MPH
If we’re boasting about survival MC fell from space then got up and stuck a pistol in the arbiter’s mouth and lead the marines to safety. and i’m going to point out that if all of you want to hide behind your trump card of “look and kill” then MC can use the Halos from the ark. safe to say MC just defeated the entire Resistance universe. However I will acknowledge that Hale is freakin beast. I never knew about that point and kill power that is really cool, I’m now considering buying a PS3 for this game.
the master chief could easily run up to hale before hale coule attack the chief and snap his to end the fight right there (or if he had an energy sword he could cut hales head off)
“If we’re boasting about survival MC fell from space then got up and stuck a pistol in the arbiter’s mouth and lead the marines to safety. and i’m going to point out that if all of you want to hide behind your trump card of “look and kill” then MC can use the Halos from the ark. safe to say MC just defeated the entire Resistance universe. However I will acknowledge that Hale is freakin beast. I never knew about that point and kill power that is really cool, I’m now considering buying a PS3 for this game.”
First, the “look and kill” ability is something Hale carries on his person seeing as it is one of his abilities. Using the Halo Rings would count as outside help, as MC does not carry around a remote activation button to light the rings. Two, why would MC commit suicide by lighting the rings?!
- pf
@PF
The Ark is outside the Halo’s kill range
“@PF
The Ark is outside the Halo’s kill range”
I know. But seeing as this is taking place on a neutral battlefield, I find it impossible that MC would somehow have a convenient ship that knows the location of the Ark and make a slip space jump and activate the rings all the while having to elude a being who can point and disintegrate people….
- pf
I am aware that i joined the arguement late, and while i have never played the Resistance games, i think that if Hale can use Daedalus weapons and Chimeran(sorry about spelling) forces, then MC should atleast be able to use Covenant weapons. Maybe im wrong, but from what it looks like you guy did not go over this, and from my limited knowledge it seems like plasma would lieterally tear through Hale, and sustained fire from it would tear through him faster than he could regenerate.
On a side note, while Pokezilla does seem like an ignorant MC “fanboy”, it seems a little unfair that he was the only person defending MC in this “debate”.
Not sure how FP works, but if its possible, i think it would be cool to open this debate back up, because i would like to test some of my theories against you Hale defenders
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Oh why did my favorite match have to die?
oh well maybe someone will come back and revive it.
You revived this thread too early!!! T_T
I’m not quite sure who infected Nathan Hale is, but I know that the Master Chief outdid the flood about a billion times, so I’m sure he could kill some infected dude named Nathan Hale.
I’m not quite sure who infected Nathan Hale is, but I know that the Master Chief outdid the flood about a billion times, so I’m sure he could kill some infected dude named Nathan Hale.
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Kind of exaggerated don’t you think? It’s not like he did it all by himself you know, MC had a lot of help.