Published on April 13, 2009, by admin - Posted in Uncategorized 657
Well, all I can say is that I know more about the Pokemon universe than the Digimon – so based on only that, I’d give the nod to Ash and company.
Which universe would win?
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^Not sure if trolling
just upset pokemon is outclassed by digimon
Yeah, its a Poketard trolling us
@DJ: The Pokémon supporters left because they lost. While Pokémon is an incredibly powerful universe, Digimon is so much more so. Don’t get me wrong, I love Pokémon and it does have a lot of firepower. Digimon just has more.
While I’m very sad I wasn’t around for the post I just have to reply.
“hmmm, let’s not talk about who is stronger, shall we?
let us talk about the supporters….
I for one think that the supporters of digimon are the most childish and insecure people of all…”
Pointless conviction. Some Digimon fans might be what you said but most aren’t. You can say the same for a fanbase.
“you digimon fans think that you just won because the pokemon fans left…
They left for a reason.”
Digimon won because they have a multiverse buster whereas Pokemon only has a unverse buster. Pokemon fans left because they lost.
“that reason is that they don’t care, you digimon fans have nothing to do since you can’t move on to the fact pokemon is better”
No, the reason they left is because they lost the debate. Digimon fans don’t have to move on seeing as both series have individual merit. Personal opinion.”
“Accept it, digimon is dead and you don’t have anything to do with it but allege and rant all you want in debates like this…”
Digimon isn’t dead at all. It still has games coming out and the latest series only ended in 2012. Your one of the only people I’ve seen “Allege and Rant” in this debate.
“sorry “james” and “stealthranger” i don’t care whether you will rant back with complex but stupid comebacks or just accept the fact that you lost…”
Yes, most Trolls don’t really care about the outcome. The “Comebacks” are complex but far from stupid. Digimon never lost so I don’t understand the last part.
“And also, pokemon fans are busy with their life while you digimon fans are just here not taking a step forward to the stairs of life,”
Yo do realise you’re the one who brought back this debate? You’re making generalisations about people without anything to base them on. Well done.
“not moving on, you are stuck there forever in the limbo of digimon vs pokemon, unless you step forward and accept that you lost…”
Hate to break it to ya, but the whole “Digimon vs Pokemon” wars only happened in the west. In Japan they were completely different franchises with similar names.
When Pokemon came to America and aired on KidsWB, Fox Kids decided they needed an anime to rival it. Guess which anime they chose?
Digimon never lost anything because there was never a war. Digimon won this debate so you have no point.
“I am sorry for the long post but please take your time reading this since you are just wasting your life on digimon.”
By that logic you’re wasting your life on Pokemon, since it’s something you enjoy.
I realise you’re a troll but this was fun.
God Damn! Why don’t spaces work!? Eh, my post is still pretty comprehensible.
You have to put
in between your paragraphs
Yeah, fsr you can’t use proper paragraphs anymore
I like it if DJ replied. He most likely won’t but after the OP incident I’m willing to believe anything.
Holy cow I forgot about this match.. now I don’t know if I want to read through everything again to begin putting up an argument.
Do it Sauro!
I believe in you.
but I’m laaaazy, and my interest in both of these franchises has petered out considerably since I last participated.
If you’re debating in the Pokemon side you probably shouldn’t bother. There is no way they’re winning this.
I’ll bother. I enjoy stepping into the losing side on debates to see if I can turn things around.
I believe Pokemon would win in this situation. Why? Simple.
Pokemon = Pocket Monster
Digimon = Digital Monster
Pokemon are equivalent to Animals while Digimon are equivalent to Holograms.
You know how when a cat urinates on a computer it is rendered useless? Apply that with this situation and you have my logic.
@Anonymous: That’s complete BS. They’re not holograms. They’re computer programs in the real world, or something like that.
@Anonymous90092: Hahaha No.
The Digital World is parallel universe. It may have come from earth communication networks but that doesn’t mean every thing in the universe is “A Hollogram”
It’s already been brought up that when Digimon come to the real world they create false proteins. This means they’re real.
Are you Albert Wikowonkavitz ? You used the same Cat Piss analogy.
I know. Holograms is just the word I use to describe that however.
“The Digital World is parallel universe. It may have come from earth communication networks but that doesn’t mean every thing in the universe is “A Hollogram”
I know that everything in the universe isn’t a hologram, it’s just the word I use to describe the Digimon themselves.
“It’s already been brought up that when Digimon come to the real world they create false proteins. This means they’re real.”
“Are you Albert Wikowonkavitz ? You used the same Cat Piss analogy.”
3. I have no clue who Albert Wikowonkavitz is, he may have brought up this t before me but I can assure you there’s no relation.
Well, now that you’ve convinced me that they’re real, It would come down to the match-up really. For example, Agumon could take down a Caterpie or a Weedle no problem and Digimon’s later forms would be able to take out the Final Forms of many Pokemon. I think Arceus would come out on top though, he’s God.
@Anonymous: “Digimon won because they have a multiverse buster whereas Pokemon only has a unverse buster.”
This. Arceus (maybe the Creation, Lake, and Tao Trios) are universe busters. Several other Legendary Pokemon (maybe some non-Legendaries) are star-, galaxy-, or whatever-else-above-planet-busters, but it doesn’t matter, because Digimon has a multiverse buster. In no material (as far as I know) is Arceus omnipotent, or nigh-omnipotent, just universe-level.
Allow me to elaborate. As explained in Digimon Tamers (by far my favorite season) The Digimon were created as an experiment in artificial intelligence, which somehow progressed to the point that the data developed ecosystems, niches, sentience, and the ability to evolve. The program bled into the fledgeling internet, allowing even more data to merge with the digimon, advancing them further and creating the digital world, which is quite literally the sum of all electronic information-including the internet.
They are indeed organisms, but in a completely different way than conventional creatures, and merely pissing on a computer will do nothing to them.
How exactly they come into the real world, or Bio-Emerge I don’t remember the explanation or if one exists. But, they are able to synthesize amino acids, proteins, organs, and the like to enter the physical world-with all of their varied abilities intact.
The lower fields are variable in equality to pokemon, but Digis have a very large pool of high tiers to draw from: the Four Sovereigns and their vassal Devas. The various forms of Myotismon from the original series. Devimon. Omnimon and Diaboromon (who can reproduce itself millions of times in the space of a few hours). The Biomega digimon hybrids (Sakuyamon, Megagargomon) Milenniummon-
There’s a lot, and my memory isn’t recent enough to count the newer series. But I think Yggdrasil and the D-Reaper could pose a threat to even the highest pokemon.
Pokemon’s in for a galaxy of pain, then.
Would DragonBall Z vs Pokemon or Digimon have been fairer?
Pokemon is definitely cooler though (they sometimes slip, though), because, really? everything ends with “mon”?!
Anyway, that’s my only solace, Digimon wins in a fight, most likely.
I prefer pokemon, definately went on longer than digimon also Pokemon has been updated with more creatures shall we say that are more powerful than any gone before but I have only got very faint digimon memories
Oh I read this somewhere the other day it has something to do with converting data into mass and vice versa, when they enter the real world they become flesh and blood and when anything enters the digital world the organic aspects get converted to data and the extra parts are stored in the nexus universe between them. There’s a whole science too it.
No Magi-tech necessary, even?
At this point even one guy from the gow verse could solo dbz. Ide say Pokemon but without arceus Ive never seen any Pokemon planet bust. Got any scans of pokemon planet busting? if not use digimon minus op ones(only planet busters and bellow)
Before I reply I’d like to clear some stuff up;
Every season of Digimon has a different explanation about how the Digital World came into existence. Tamers has by far the most scientific.
This link explains how Digimon come into existence in the Tamers ‘verse and the importance of Analog World.
Arceus being “God” means absolutely nothing. He has only shown universal capabilities. Digimon has a multiverse buster, Zeedmillenniummon.
Zeed > Arceus.
Simple as that.
Digimon and Pokemon stomp DBZ.
Digimon are much more powerful than Pokemon and is still making quality series.
Bummer that. T_T
Would Digimon vs Star Wars be a fairer fight, potentially, then?
“At this point even one guy from the gow verse could solo dbz.”
LMAO. Several DBZ characters would stomp the entire GoW-verse. Planet busting attacks+Mach 1000+ speed ftw
I don’t know much about Star Wars but unless they have a multiversal they’re not winning.
“At this point even one guy from the gow verse could solo dbz.”
Uhh… Piccolo could probably solo the entirety of GoW. Even their biggest beings can’t tank a moon buster at the very least.
Why’d Gendrons and Anonymous leave? I was having fun.
“Uhh… Piccolo would stomp the entirety of GoW”
I believe Arceus could qualify as omnipotent. He is based of the Christian God after all. If he can create universes surely he’d be able to destroy them as well?
N03z, burt teh titans r c0$m!c and Ga!a r mult!v3rs@l and Kr@to$ killz godz nd titanz!
I didn’t bail on the argument. I was just at a funeral yesterday. That’s all.
Well, I believe God could qualify as a multiverse buster. If he can create universes surely he can destroy them. Granted, I’m talking about universes but going off of the fact that Zeedmillenniummon can destroy multiverses, and Arceus is technically God, shouldn’t he be able to survive his onslaught? Unless Zeedmillenniummon can kill deities then I stand by my point.
Zeed is always there at every point in space and time right?
Can there be two or more Zeeds at the same time or is it that only one may exist at any given moment?
For something off-topic, how long do you think the Digiverse will last against Marvel.
No, all chances of winning is nulled. Marvel wins, but I’m curious to see just how long will they last.
“N03z, burt teh titans r c0$m!c and Ga!a r mult!v3rs@l and Kr@to$ killz godz nd titanz!”
BUT… BuT… dBze r ftl and picolooo solos teh D.c, !!111!!!111!1!!1!!!!!11!1
“Well, I believe God could qualify as a multiverse buster. If he can create universes surely he can destroy them.”
If you are talking about the Christian God, then you most definitely correct.
But because your ‘god’ in this context is Arceus, research tells me that his domain is only one universe, not many.
You may be talking about Giratina’s Reverse World, but I think that’s more of an alternate dimension than an actual universe.
Sure, he can kill Zeed within his universe because of Home Field Advantage, but since he’s not in his universe, Zeed most likely outclasses him.
@Anonymous: The title “God” means he’s the strongest in his ‘verse. Again his universe. He has absolutely no authority over Zeed.
Arceus’s only feat is creating a universe. This means he can most likely destroy one also.
Zeed is omnipresent. This means he can destroy Arceus yesterday, Tomorrow or a hundred years in the past.
Eniac and ABC, two multiversal Gods who created the Digital world were defeated by Zeed.
bah christan god is all fan wank nothing more
The only I hate about Digimon is the “-mon”.
Everything has to end with “-mon”?!
Well, you’ve convinced me. At least until Pokemon get’s an omnipresent monster.
It simply means he exists everywhere and anywhere. I don’t know much else.
Digimon get quite far in the Marvel’verse. Marvel has an omnipotent and a load of Nigh Omnipotents. Any Nigh Omnipotent with better feats can defeat Zeed.
Digimon are like programs within the Digital World. They are .monster files. If we shorten it we get .mon. In plain speech mon.
Grey.monster – Grey.mon – Greymon.
That is where the problem lies.
If you remember, Dialga is a time-traveller (Arceus could be one as well), and as such can go back in time.
You’re thinking, sure, let them, it won’t do anything good to them anyway.
If Arceus and/or Dialga would be allowed to travel back in time to the start of the match, then there would be two of them at the same time.
When they lose to Zeed, they travel back again to the start of the match, and now there are three of them.
When they lose again, they use what works and go back again.
Basically what I’m saying is, if Pokemon were to lose, it would result in an infinite number of Dialgas and/or Arceuses.
As explained by this Cracked quote:
In the distant future, when the stars have burned out and the planets have wobbled out of their celestial orbits, the descendents of humanity will be staring extinction in the face, and if they have access to a goddamn time machine then it’s likely they’re going to say “fuck this shit” and just return to a more comfortable point in history.
A flood of refugees from the future might set up home in the present and flourish, until the world ends again and they decide to do what worked last time. And again. And again. Effectively, the moment we switch on our very first time machine, our universe is going to be home to approximately infinity refugees from the future. You do the math.”
Read more: The 5 Scientific Experiments Most Likely to End the World | Cracked.com www.cracked.com/article_16583_the-5-scientific-experiments-most-likely-to-end-world_p2.html#ixzz1zqbPc0mO
Replace the “distant future” with “Pokemon losing” and “refugees from the future” with “Arceus and Dialga” and you’ve got a similar situation.
You can take this scenario to ANY match that involves Time Travel and you have a really irritating and repetitive scenario that I’ve beginning to think this should be taken to Admin for consideration.
When he said “This means he can destroy Arceus yesterday, Tomorrow or a hundred years in the past.” He didn’t necessarily mean to destroy him via traveling through time and killing him from there. He could just as easily scan the time stream, hunt down Arceus and erase him from the universe.
@Hermit: Awesome a fellow Cracked reader!
On to your question; Zeed exists everywhere. He can use his attack everywhere at the same time, thus destroying Dialga at every point it once existed. He can do this with the Pokemon universe or Arceus if he wants to.
I’m curious… Would victini be a factor? Like every entry in the dex states it contains infinite energy and that it’s can share said energy.
Does it show anything? Like anything to back up the words
I’ll try to check. but from clips I’ve seen it has shared energy, the dex entries are consistent and palkia and dailga do control time and space iirc(I heard they created galaxies) I’ll try to look more into it.
considering even Arceus Dialga and Palkia aren’t helping Pokemon win I doubt Victini will.
“He can do this with the Pokemon universe or Arceus if he wants to.”
Seeing has how Arceus hit Omnipotent status, I don’t think this will happen.
Umm, Tenchi Muyo has beings that could solo GoW faster than DBZ residents could, but that’s neither here nor there.
Would the Digimon multi-verse get a better fight from Yu-Gi-Oh overall if the best Pokemon could do is either deadlock or get decimated?
@Darth Kung Pow Enter the Sith Maul
But victini could just give said infinite energy to one of thoughs three you mentioned
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