Well, all I can say is that I know more about the Pokemon universe than the Digimon – so based on only that, I’d give the nod to Ash and company.
Which universe would win?
Well, all I can say is that I know more about the Pokemon universe than the Digimon – so based on only that, I’d give the nod to Ash and company.
Which universe would win?
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Yeah +1 Digimon
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and mrgendrons is a retard
@StealthRanger
At the moment I’m enjoying correcting him som I’m happy.
At the moment its just him, as DReager has left. Not even lurking. If he was he would have seen admins post by now.
Hmm, that gives me an idea….
Gendrons trolling this thread? seriously once you get beyond the lower leveled Pokemon and Digimon into beings like Zeed and Arceus the Digi gods just straight outnumber the Pokegods.
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Also Gendrons won’t stop here till an award is given, like Stealth said, he’s doing the same thing in Kratos vs Harry Dresden. He’s saying Kratos can’t be damaged.
@GuardianAngel1911
honestly i do like digimon more but since it was brought back to life i decided to bring up a point: a.) ditto can copy anything physical and gain its skills and powers. b.)digimon usually have to call out their attacks(omnimon and the greymon species for example) while pokemon don’t have this limitation thus a ditto could copy say zeed and use its power without calling out an attack.
@jackn8r
what did the admin post to that dbz fanboy?
@Gendrons
Pokemon don’t call their attacks because they can’t say anything but their name.
@GuardianAngel1911
“Pokemon don’t call their attacks because they can’t say anything but their name.”
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slaking of pokemon 2000 and team rockets meowth say hi…….
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it really depends can zeed state his attack faster than a ditto can transform?
Zeed is omnipresent they wouldn’t be able to copy him because he’s everywhere and no where. The universe would be destroyed and there isn’t a damn thing Pokemon can do about it. NEO did his attack without saying a word proving they don’t need to call out their attacks. They call them out because it’s an anime/manga if they didn’t it would be kind of lame.
@The King of Heroes
you overestimate zeed hed doesn’t even have universal durability. he has to attacvk a universe from an alternate dimension. and dosent the dragon trio have an alternate dimension aswell?
@Your Majesty
The potential lack of need to call out attacks had it not been for PIS being in play sort of sounds quite familiar with me.
I know of two worlds that tend to be guilty of such PIS, not gonna name them in here really.
@Commander Cross
omnimon called out his attacks as he was racing against time when a nuke was going to kill the digidestions in the movie thus i don’t thing calling out their attacks is optional.
“slaking of pokemon 2000…”
considering in the series the episode Ash encountered a Lugia was stated as the first time he’d seen one I wonder on that one, plus Slaking is a psychic pokemon.
Meowth had an episode showing he taught himself to talk, he is an overall exception to the rule, considering how many Pokemon around trainers for years never come up with the ability to speak I’m betting the few talking Pokemon are either rare mutations, psychic, or exceptions to the rule depending on the case.
Just so no illusions Digimon wins right?
I mean the Average Tier-2 starter Digimon is about as strong as a tier-3 starter Pokemon. Especially 2nd-3rd gen.
@GuardianAngel1911
i honestly figure its PIS to save money on voice actors plus it could just be different vocal chords compared to humans(a chimp can only say few english words like cup and up but can speak in sign language fine) so i can’t really blame them.
slakings mouth was moving
@tau43
depends can digimon take on an army of dittos or the pokepimp?
“@tau43
depends can digimon take on an army of dittos or the pokepimp?”
-Vaporization works wonders. As well as some pretty powerful artillery coming Skullgreymon and the likes.
Then what about NEO and his ability to destroy the universe and recreate it. You haven’t countered the fact that no Pokemon can survive the destruction of the universe.
@Gendrons
still doesn’t explain Ash not remembering anything about that in the series.
“Then what about NEO and his ability to destroy the universe and recreate it. You haven’t countered the fact that no Pokemon can survive the destruction of the universe.”
-Was trying to make defeat total and prove even with deities Digimon would win.
^Meant Without.
@GuardianAngel1911
lugias a phycic flying thus could of whiped all of their minds like mewtwo did twice.
@Gendrons
mind wiping never occurred in that movie
@GuardianAngel1911
ill have to rewatch the movie it foggy. but ash has met NUMEROUS legendaries and never mentions them again mabey hes just more interested in getting badges than legendaries.
Or maybe it would be like someone saying “I saw Bigfoot”. People would scoff it off and think they’re lying.
@The King of Heroes
Actually Arceus and the dragon trio transcend space and time so Zeed would have to kill them separately.
mrgendrons 2.0
Zeed doesn’t need to call out his attacks they only do that in the anime/manga so the viewer/reader knows the name of the attack
Zeed won’t have to fight Arceus and the dragon trio because he will simply destroy them or banish them to the gulf beyond space time. It doesn’t matter how many Arceus’s there are because Zeed can kill them all and they can’t kill him.
Ditto can’t copy Zeed because he wouldn’t be able to see Zeed because Zeed exists everywhere. He would hide his physical form and destroy the Pokemon universe and Arceus from any point in space and time.
Clearly explain to me how Arceus will defeat Zeed?
anyway how is zeed gonna announce an attack before he gets copied by ditto not to mention im pretty sure zeed going into a pocket dimension counts as ring out. thus hes screwd as he can’t tank his own universe busting attack.
@mrgendrons 2.0
Zeed transcends space and time he can survive the universe being destroyed.
Ditto can’t copy him because they cant see him.
No Pokemon can even hurt Zeed.
@James
they did it when they were shorty on time and sometimes call out the same substantial attack numerous timers in the same episode. so i call bull. if zeed exsists everywhere hes then right infront of ditto thus he can copy. oh and hiding in a pocket dimension is ringout thus zeeds a lot less useful as he can’t tank universe busting attacks.
@James
ditto turns into noctowl, sees zeed,trasform.
of and zeed cant really win if hes fighting all the dragobn trio at the same time or an army of himself
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any way i gotta go for now let us contiue later.
“anyway how is zeed gonna announce an attack before he gets copied by ditto not to mention im pretty sure zeed going into a pocket dimension counts as ring out. thus hes screwd as he can’t tank his own universe busting attack.”
-Did you even read James’s comment?
Zeed doesn’t need to hide in a pocket dimension he just needs to keep his body away from ditto. To kill zeed you need to destroy his body so to copy zeed you would need to see his body.
Of course Zeed can tank universe busting attacks. He transcends space and time do you understand what that means? It means that if the multiverse is destroy Zeed survives.
You say Digimon need to call out there attacks but what about all the times they don’t?
So what about being everywhere and no where doesn’t this guy get? Also he’s so focused on Zeed that he’s ignoring all the other universe busting Digimon like NEO. Can someone find a list of the Godmons so we can make him understand how much of a stomp this is.
Going on what James said. Wouldn’t all of the captured pokemon need their trainers to call their attacks? For that matter, every pokemon does that “name-name-full name” thing before they attack.
@mrgendrons 2.0
Zeed doesn’t need to fight them they can’t even see him he just destroys them from a million miles away or a million years in the past.
These are some of Zeeds attacks. ( Note I said some there are more but they are all in Japanese)
- Fallen Hell: Makes a dark portal which pulls everything around him into a “chaos world” and putting the whole universe into total darkness.
- Chrono Paradox: Fires two atomic rays out of his mouths that destroy everything in their way and can destroy a whole universe in a single shot.
- Time Destroyer: Sends his enemies to the other side of space-time.
Do you understand Zeed doesn’t need to physically confront them he just blows up the Pokemon universe and then blows up Arceus and the Dragon trio.
Ditto can’t copy Zeed because ditto will never see Zeed he would just hide his physical body a million years in the past or a million miles away.
Zeed can survive blowing up the multiverse because its stated that he transcends space and time and that was he was going to do in the Wonderswan game series.
Even if Zeed needed to call out his attacks, which he doesn’t it wouldn’t change anything. They can’t hurt Zeed. Zeed can kill them.
Please stop running away when you fail to put together a proper argument.
@The King of Heroes
Its easier to debate with the strongest Digimon.
“- Fallen Hell: Makes a dark portal which pulls everything around him into a “chaos world” and putting the whole universe into total darkness.”
-Sounds like Chains of Torment DoW2 edition.
-And Pokemon call out their attacks as well. Just in a non-human understandable way.
@tau43
When did I suggest that?
@James
What did you think I meant by godmons? I mean whenever I bring up NEO he doesn’t respond.
@The King of Games
I know NEO’s incredibly powerful I’ve read Next.
I mean its easier to use Zeed because he’s the strongest.
“@tau43
When did I suggest that?”
-Post #433, You said something on the topic on attack calling. Made me think “You know I beat that is why the Pokemon say their names when they attack.” Bit of a tangent, sorry.
@tau43
Its fine
grendons stll hasnt shown ditto being able to copy anything massivly more powerful then them outside of gameplay.
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champion level digimion can compete with high tier pokemon, ulimates and mega rape anything but the strongest
@fallstar
So how about that Yu-Gi-Oh? Any match ideas my friend?
considering all yu-gi-oh has is minor soulfuckery when you loose a game(unless you count milenium world) then i wont put up much of a fight
compare it to mtg where all the stuff isnt holograms mtg stomps
@fallstar
I’m talking about the monsters and lore. Also the anime/manga is OP they can make the cards real you know. Because well they were real at one point.
@James
so unless you can show me zeed tanking a universe busting attack(without hiding in a pocket dimension)
yet “zeed” gets hurt my other attacks that are far from universe busting
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you also claim it would need to take out the dragon trio separately. what if ditto just continually copied them? a bunch of creatures that can warp time and space?
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honestly i like digimon a little more but do you have any legit scans of zeeds feats?
@mrgendrons2.0
How the hell can you say your attacks can hurt him when we keep telling you they can’t even hit him. Do you read every other post or something I mean really it’s like your ignoring everything being said. What about NEO who can also universe bust you haven’t said anything about him.
@grendons
post#544
wow this is getting ridiculous.
+ 1 for digimon
@fallstar thief
i believe its cannonly shown in episode 36 season 1 a ditto shapeshifts into a machoke which physically is massively stronger.
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@The King of Games
so a beings gonna bust a universe that their in? does neo have universal durability even?
@wingedlion
Stomps don’t get awards you know that.
@mrgendrons2.0
NEO becomes the universe when he destroys it. See he basically omnipotent after the move. read his profile for more.
@tkog
“Stomps don’t get awards you know that.”
tottaly forgot about that.
@Gendrons
also again thank you for providing the link that proves Dresden kills Kratos easily, I mean really, thank you.
@tkog
“See he basically omnipotent after the move.”
if thats the case, why is zeed the strongest digimon?
@wingedlion
Because being omnipresent means he can stop the attack from going through and kill NEO. I’m guessing being everywhere and no where basically means everyone else can go fuck themselves.
@grendons
ok then ditto can tranform into machoke level beings. thats not even champion level
@tkog
being omnipresent matters not when your opponent can take away your omnipresence and instantly kill you. if neo truly is omnipotent than he should be the strongest digimon.
@wingedlion
He’s omnipotent when he uses that move if he can’t use that move he isn’t omnipotent. Which basically means Zeed being omnipresent can just kill him before NEO becomes the universe. Anyway this isn’t about who is the strongest Digimon it’s about stomping Pokemon into the ground. We can talk about this at school man.
the ditto argument has already been debunked in the first page.
omegagreymon:”Digimon (outside of the Digital World) are made of synthesized proteins.. that means that they are only “pretending” to have a real form. I’d love to see Ditto copy false proteins. And even if he did so, he wouldn’t have the power of the said digimon, as that power eminates from the variable statistics, not from the form itself”.
@Gendrons
There are no scans of Zeed because he only appears in the Wonderswan game series.
When has Zeed ever gotten hurt by an attack outside of game mechanics?
I’ve told you Zeed doesn’t need to hide in a pocket dimension because he surpasses time and space.
I have read the whole thread and I’m starting to believe he didn’t bother to read anything before the page he posted on.
I’ve told you Ditto can’t copy Zeed because they can’t see his physical body. If they have no idea what he looks like then how can they copy him?
As wingedlion said Ditto can’t copy fake proteins but even if he could it wouldn’t make a difference.
@The King Of Dragons
I don’t think he’s reading the page he’s posting on!
@James
My god that should be my next nickname when I’m bored. The King of Dragons. But what dragon is bad ass enough to be my gravatar when I change to that?
Gendrons never reads any posts or listens to anything posted against him. He’s got his favorites dick lodged so far down his throat its cutting off oxygen to his brain, thus he can’t hear
@The King Of Games
Coredramon
I hate how Gendrons runs away when he loses an argument.
@James
Yeah me too. Happened several times for me on Dante vs Kratos. He also never admits hes wrong
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Now hes doing it on Kratos vs Dresden
I’m guessing he has a pretty bad reputation.
Uh-huh, hes the resident retarded troll of FP
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For further info, Last Man Standing: Round 1, Dante vs Kratos, Kratos vs Dresden and Hulk vs Kratos are good examples of his retardation
Wow! I thought op was the most retarded troll on here
OP?
Go back to the earlier pages on this thread and you’ll find him. He debated with EnigmaJ for about three pages.
not part of the conversation,
(*cough*,*cough*, i agree,*cough*,*cough*)
i would just like to say i like pokemon better, not gonna debate, just sayin it.
Request a recap, can’t be bothered to read the previous pages.
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Has Arceus and the Creation trio been brought up?
I bet your a troll trying to attract attention.
I bet your a troll trying to attract attention.
Sorry if your not
who me?
@Darthgrim
Yes they have been brought up and countered. Seeing how no Pokemon can survive universe busting attacks and they won’t be able to even hit our omnipresent friend ZeedMilleniummon.
has anyone ever won the fight, but lost the FP award, just because everyone likes the other guy more?
@Messmaker
Yes I was referring to you. It just seemed odd to bring up which you prefer for no reason.
Sorry
Protoss vs Covenant used to have an FP Award due to the Covenant supporters trolling the Protoss supporters, but it lost its award when Deathtanker incessantly petitioned for it to be removed due to lack of arguments for either side for it to be award worthy
you think me, adorable, big eyed, six foot three, three hundred pound football player me, a troll?
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im ashamed
*by an FP Award I mean the Protoss were awarded
i will come over there and squish you. LOL
“i would just like to say i like pokemon better, not gonna debate, just sayin it.”
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I used to watch the original series’ back in the day,never read any comics/manga or anything. Played a Pokemon game or two, but then, that rarely gave me a reason to like it more than digi. (I’m talking about original Red and gold xD) and TBH I liked Digimon as a series better, but there you go ^^
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“has anyone ever won the fight, but lost the FP award, just because everyone likes the other guy more?”
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Now I may just be remembering this wrong, but there was a “fight” between SG:U Destiny and ST:VOY Voyager. The original info said “which ship would you rather be “stranded”on. As both ships were “lost” ver far from safe harbours. Many said ST’s Tech meant Voyager would be a much more comfortable ship to be stranded on, considering may didn’t understand the Ancient’s tech aboard the Destiny.
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Yet the fight devolved into, as they usually do, as to which ship would win in a battle, and SG tech I think won out saying it would destroy Voyager, and so Destiny “won” the battle.
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Despite the match being nothing of the sort. That made me laugh ofc xD. Then again ofc I could be thinking of something completely different xD
kewl.
@tkog
“But what dragon is bad ass enough to be my gravatar when I change to that?”
bahumut?
@wingedlion
Of course how could I be so blind. The Dragon God of Final Fantasy is perfect. To Google images.
I notice Gendrons ran off.
Oh he’ll be back without a doubt. Hes done this kind of thing before
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Sadly hes so fucking stupid to realise that nobody wants him around
He’s Gendrons. Him noticing anything is one-in-an-infinity chance.
@Lightning
I hate to be the math nerd here but 1/infinity equals 0. So basically you just said there is a 0% chance of gendrons noticing anything. Sorry if I explained the joke.
soooooo, who won?
@DJ R3d
Digimon win easily but Gendrons wont accept that. I really hope you don’t think Pokemon would win.
Yeah like James said, Digimon won a long time ago. Only one contesting that is gendrons
hmmm, let’s not talk about who is stronger, shall we?
let us talk about the supporters….
I for one think that the supporters of digimon are the most childish and insecure people of all…
you digimon fans think that you just won because the pokemon fans left…
They left for a reason.
that reason is that they don’t care, you digimon fans have nothing to do since you can’t move on to the fact pokemon is better
Accept it, digimon is dead and you don’t have anything to do with it but allege and rant all you want in debates like this…
sorry “james” and “stealthranger” i don’t care whether you will rant back with complex but stupid comebacks or just accept the fact that you lost…
And also, pokemon fans are busy with their life while you digimon fans are just here not taking a step forward to the stairs of life, not accepting,not moving on, you are stuck there forever in the limbo of digimon vs pokemon, unless you step forward and accept that you lost…
I am sorry for the long post but please take your time reading this since you are just wasting your life on digimon.