Well, here is a match that if all indications are correct, should be close to an even match. I have to confess that I didn’t know of a DarkTrooper until it was mentioned on the site – a little reading later, this might be a battle that the Space Marine loses…
Or does he?
I’d have to say the Darktrooper
Win for the genetically enhanced godlike warriors of the Imperium.
This fight is right down the middle. They both really equal eachother out. I say the fight keeps goin’ and goin’ ’till outside factors end the fight, probably meanin’ one or the other has their allies show up and help them out. So no winner in a one on one fight, but one of ‘em would be killed when the other guy’s allies show up. Be an awesome fight to watch.
I think This may be a Match for our Space marine, I would so pay to watch this!
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One of the most Fair fights for this website I think.
I may give this to the Dark Trooper due to having better equipment than the Marine. As powerful as the Bolter is, the Trooper has a modified assault cannon, missiles, rockets, and a jump-pack.
Fairly tough fight to decide, but the mighty Space Marine finaly met his match.
the p3 dark trooper is the empires most powerfull infantary unit
I base Marine would most likely loose, I find the chances of the Dark Trooper rapidly drop as you get higher into the Space Marine echelon however.
Yes. Thats true, Veterans will kill the phase 3 darktrooper.
Yes, against a well equipped Sergeant, or any of the more specialized units, the Dark Trooper will be in lethal trouble. Against a basic Marine, it has the upper hand.
An assault Marine with a Meltagun will eliminate the Dark Trooper threat in just minutes.
Also, this would be the case if we are talking of a basic Loyalist Space Marine. If we replace that Marine with a basic Chaos Space Marine, the story might be diferent.
While they share similar physical capabilities, these marines have been fighting for FAR longer than their loyalist counterparts. This makes them extreme veterans that, more likely than not, would outmaneuvre even the better equipped Dark Trooper. On top of that, many basic marines gain the favor of a Patron God, enhancing their abilities even further.
I say this only because that Space Marine looks a little more Chaos than Imperial. It actually looks like a Thousand Son – post Heresy. Which would be WAY worse for the Dark Trooper.
Could someone provide a link for the P3 Dark Trooper? While I have a vast store of knowledge on Space Marines, I’m somewhat lacking info on the Dark troopers.
Also, the SM seems to have a jump-pack and I agree with Mata
GEOM Go to wookiepedia and look it up
Sanguinus is the best, shame he’s dead! Nah, I have a few points worth of Blood Angels so I’m biased and I think a standard Blood Angel Trooper would win though only just.
My answer is still that the Dark Trooper wins over any standard Marine regardless of their legion/chapter. Most only change in their doctrines but not their abilities/gear.
I don’t know. I feel that the soldiers with the genetic material of a god would be able to pull it off.
i had a strong feeling too,but it is alphacommando and mata,so i guess i go with them,,a basic marine loses.
Don’t worry, His gene -seed will be fine, Anyway, We have thousands more.
Interesting. Please, anyone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but a P3DT seems to be a 10 foot tall, phrik armored powerhouse (either a cyborg clone veteran, or a droid) armed with a five barrel repeater blaster cannon, rockets, and a jump pack. Sound about right? ‘Preciate it space marine. Now, of course, This is an understatement. Everything I can find seems to indicate that dark troopers are mighty opponents. So are Space Marines. Both are equitable in height, mass, and experience, provided we are talking about the veteran clone instead of the droid. I would believe (although, admittedly I may be biased given the feats that space marines have accomplished) that a space marine is going to have an edge in close combat. Armed with a monomolecular combat knife three feet long, and the terrific strength that even a naked Marine can bring to bear coupled with their powered armor, the Space Marine would tear the Dark Trooper a new waste dispersal unit, as long as ranged weapons are factored out of the equation. That being said, at range, the dark trooper does seem to have the advantage. Now, how can this poor Astartes fanboy argue victory out of the jaws of assault blasting, rocket launching defeat?
Allow me to borrow a portion of one of the much vaunted L-W’s posts:
“In one instance, a Space Marine is depicted as having twenty of these beams centred on his chest-plate at once in a single sustained volley, which only managed to place a single hole in the Power Armour, leaving the Carapace relatively intact.”
In this instance, he was referring to the damage that a single marine can soak up from anti-material grade laser cannons. Laser cannons, which I would believe, are significantly more powerful than a blaster repeater. Before any SW fans lose their minds with indignant fury, just ask yourself this: what is going to take out a tank faster, a Godhammer pattern lascannon, or an assault repeater blaster? Now, on to the rockets. I am still unable to verify whether they are guided or unguided. I’ve seen both claimed on the different wikis. If they are guided, a marine can use his auspex to scramble the guidance systems. They do it all the time. That’s why the only time rockets ever kill space marines is when they fire en masse, simply by virtue of the fact that space marines can move faster than even an assassin’s eye can see. Therefore, I submit that a Space Marine would dodge the dark troopers limited supply of rockets, absorb his blaster shots, race over to the dark trooper, and maul him into gory paste. Provided, of course, that he decided not to shoot the P3DT with his armor piercing, incendiary, or acidic bolt rounds. Through the eye socket. Trust me, I shot a target behind a six inch steel plate with a .50 caliber rifle. The target was neutralized by dint of the sheer force of the cartridge. A .75 cal rocket assisted shell would cause traumatic injury to any organic components. That is assuming, again, that the marine decided not to use any special ammo like hellfire or thermite shells. Those would eat through any gaps in the phrikite armor and wreak havoc on the systems underneath. Remember, 50 space marines held off an army of thousands of orks without losing a man. Can dark troopers do that? They are the pinnacle of the warrior art. They are remorseless, fearless, trained, indoctrinated, and absolutely murderous goliaths descended from beings of godlike power. They meet the dark trooper, throw a half dozen micro grenades at his feet, catch one of the rockets he shoots, throws it back, and by the time the smoke clears from the dark troopers vision, he feels a strange numbness throughout his body. In the final seconds before his vision grays out, he realizes that his head was pulled off of his shoulders and thrown a half a kilometer. Also, the Blood Angels are indeed pretty fething awesome.
-Imperator Victrix
Well, I basically decided that if it’s a Blood Angel he’s gonna close to short range because that is there prefered type of combat and well, “what he said”
congrats on stating the obvious(for those in the know about 40k) in a very well thought out and organized manner. i found this site by chance the other day looking up whatever about marneus calgar. My first read on this site was vader vs. calgar. Very good match, which i give to vader, the force is everywere. That makes calgar the carrier of his own demise. I was starting to think most plp who post would simply state who they think would win, or what would happen and that would be it. No explanation as to why/how their chosen would win/do whatever. Its posts like yours that keep me reading, regardless of agreement. So thank you GEOM!
Space Marine is imbued with god-like power. He can destroy a droid Stormtrooper with a very small ounce of his power. Trust me on this, I’m more of a SW fan than 40k and I’ve always thought Darktroopers were one of the most badass things in the SW universe and I still know that Space Marines are superior.
“My first read on this site was vader vs. calgar. Very good match, which i give to vader, the force is everywere. That makes calgar the carrier of his own demise.”
You have to remember that the Force doesn’t exist in the 40k universe. Calgar isn’t carrying anything.
In Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, the original Star Wars film, the Force is first described by the Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi (Alec Guinness) as an energy field created by all living things, that surrounds and penetrates living beings and binds the galaxy together.[2]
The word “midi-chlorian” appears to be a portmanteau of “mitochondrion” and “chloroplast”, two organelles found in real cells and thought to have evolved from bacteria as endosymbionts inside other cells, as purported in the endosymbiotic theory.
Mitochondria are sometimes described as “cellular power plants” because they generate most of the cell’s supply of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), used as a source of chemical energy. [2]
Midi-chlorians are microscopic life-forms that reside within the cells of all living things and communicate with the Force.[6] Midi-chlorians compose a collective consciousness and intelligence, forming links between everything living and the Force. They are symbionts with all other living things; that is, without them, life could not exist. The Jedi have learned how to listen to and coordinate the midi-chlorians. In order to be a Jedi or a Sith, one must have a high enough concentration of midi-chlorians in one’s cells
The Vong, because of what they’ve become, were cut off from the touch of the force by the living planet they originated from. And thus were not seen through the force.. but at one time long ago could be. Omitted from the force doesn’t mean they couldn’t be hurt by a rock that was hurled at them through the force or a lightsaber that was force thrown at them, because they could. just some of the many powers of the force could not affect them as readily as another being. Just like a WH dwarf would be resistent to some magics.
It’s true that certain beings aren’t effected by certain powers, but they are NOT invincible to ALL force powers.
“The Force has a “dark side”, which feeds off emotions such as anger and fear, whereas the Jedi use the Force only for peaceful purposes.” -wiki.
Skywalker travelled to another galaxy and could use his power.
Since all living things would have mitochondria which originated from Bacteria.. Why would the force not work in 40K?
as for the DarkTrooper vs a SM? Just like in real life everyone has bad and good days.. IMO it depends on how good the roll of the dice is for each on that particular day…
dont know much about dark troopers besides they are robots and theyre pretty powerful but i do know warhammmer and i know that the guy in the pic is a chaos assault marine and what was the specs on the dark trooper? oh yea
assault canon
missles rockets
jetpack
chaos assault marine
bolter or maybe a plasma weapon
chainsword
meltabombs
and a jump pack i think its about equal but im a fanboy and i will defend all spacemarines to the best of my ability
Space Marine is imbued with god-like power.
/Blushes
again you forgot to say what kind of marine terminator, assult marine, scout, biker, force commander. ill asume your talking about normal marines and say the dark trooper even though he can fly is SKREWED
I have to hand it to the Space Marine here. He’s got the experience, the training, and while not the tech (and I’m sure all physical augmentation has varying aspects), he has the… better, in terms of utility, modifications.
Now this is off topic but… my friends recently gave me an idea which I’m not sure how to compare vs-wise… but as simply as I can put it – Jedi/Sith Willpower vs Chaos Temptation, or something similar. O.o
Just for the record, that Space Marine is a heresy-era Iron Warrior or Son of Horus. Which is why he has the dodgy helmet. Chaos Marines are a lot more, spiky.
Random. I dunno what the Dark Trooper can take, but my guess is that it’s not going to fare well to a bolter. The marine might take some laser, but not too much, and the rockets have varying effect depending on guided or not guided.
I would put it as a tie, with first blood having a 80% percent chance of winning, while each has a 50& chance of getting first blood.
If thats. Space Marine is the Emperor’s Champion Then it’s a s.m. victory.
Hmmm, can anyone post soemthing for the Darktrooper? And there are many different chapters of marines that change things up. The best are the Grey Knights, while the Fire Lords literally breathe fire.
Dark Troopers… the guys with Phrik armor, the stuff that survived the destruction of Alderaan. How is a Space Marine supposed to harm a Dark Trooper?
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Furthermore, they have six PLEX launchers. PLEX missiles were capable of one shotting AATs in the Clone Wars…
Though the SM would probably win, I’m gonna go with the Dark Trooper because he has a gun that shoots friggin LIGHTNING (BF2). Nuf said.
Though the SM would probably win, I’m gonna go with the Dark Trooper because he has a gun that shoots freaking LIGHTNING (BF2). Enough said.
Though the SM would probably win, I’m gonna go with the Dark Trooper because he has a gun that shoots freaking LIGHTNING, at least in BF2. Nuf said.
Though the SM would probably win, I’m going to go with the Dark Trooper because he has a gun that shoots freaking LIGHTNING, at least in BF2. Nuf said.
Lightning, seriously? Space Marines tank lightning like nothing
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That said it depends on which Space Marine rank we’re talking about here
The Dark Troopers in BF2 aren’t phase 3, but they may still have arc-casters anyway.
“Lightning, seriously? Space Marines tank lightning like nothing”
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No they don’t. Just to clear that up. Lightning can reach temperatures six times hotter than the sun. It’s considerably higher than anything Space Marines are shown to tank. A continuous blast of lightning would melt their armor like butter.
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Although Phase 3′s don’t carry arc casters. They carry rapid fire plasma cannons with rocket launchers. Considering Phrik survived a planet’s destruction, that plasma must be hot stuff. It would seem to me that the Phase 3 Dark Trooper has this in the bag.
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This match was decided a long time ago, it doesn’t matter which Space Marine we’re talking about. They almost definitely lose. There was no reason to comment, Dark God.