This would certainly be an entertaining match to watch. While I think Dante could hang for a bit, in the end, I think Kharn gets the victory.
How do you see this fight playing out?
This would certainly be an entertaining match to watch. While I think Dante could hang for a bit, in the end, I think Kharn gets the victory.
How do you see this fight playing out?
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What an awesome fight! I think(and hope) that Dante would win but I’m not completely sure as although I know a reasonable amount about Kharn I don’t know enough to be sure of a winner here.
Dante has the stuff to win but it is no sure bet.
Admittedly, I don’t have the greatest grasp of Dante’s prowess, but I do know about Kharn. He is over one hundred centuries old. He has seen battle on ten thousand worlds, and is the favored champion of the most powerful of the Chaos Gods. He has murdered hundreds, if not thousands of even the vaunted Space Marines. Sometimes, all at once. The head of his axe is larger and heavier than Dante’s body, and he can swing it faster than a human eye can blink. The longer he fights, the more powerful he becomes. Victory to Kharne.
Imperator Victrix
Kharn Has taken on Eight bloodthirsters at once, and come out the victor. Kharn wins.
Epic. But I think the Chaos champion will win this fight.
Which is also the right way too.
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kharn_the_Betrayer
…
Owned…
Now, I wonder what Would Happen if Kharn had GoreFather?
We need to pit up Kharn against an opponent that could ACTUALLY BEAT HIM. Its getting annoying to see him win every time.
“We need to pit up Kharn against an opponent that could ACTUALLY BEAT HIM. Its getting annoying to see him win every time.”
Well definitely…
www.factpile.com/archives/1097
And maybe…
www.factpile.com/archives/1290
It CAN happen. Just cause its not possible by most of the favorites of the site, it doesnt mean he is unstopable. They just need to have a very specific set of tools to deal with Kharn. In the case of Galactus, he can tear matter appart. In the Case of Ghost Rider, he can grow in power exponentially. Unless you are Hulk or Juggernaut, brute force is hardly enough to deal with the Betrayer.
Hmmm… while i am a big fan of dante i know nothing of the other guy… Hmmm Idk lol can’t be a fanboy with this stuff by the looks of it dante wloud wear out before this guy but I don’t think he would die ( he would lose but get away with his life yet not his pride how sad)
You guys are right, its not like dante has killed ungodly beasts or anything.
I haven’t played anything with either one of these guys, but I know a miniscule amount about Dante. I go with the one I know at least a li’l bit of somethin’ about: Dante.
Kharn. Because he needs to get more skulls for the skull throne. Plus the only thing that makes him happy is killing, and hes soooooo good at it.
Guys. Seriously. Dante has this one. He cant die for one. The guy got shot in the face and smiled. He surfed on a missile. He can slow down time. Hes a half demon which are in general far stronger than normal demons. He is one of the sons of The Dark Knight Sparta who sealed a gateway to hell then split his power between his sons. He can turn into a demon. Make a fighting shadow. He has defeated the strongest demons around including his twin brother. Now ive learned a lot about Kharn in various other posts but he cant beat Dante.
“The guy got shot in the face and smiled.”
Ugh.
Kharn stood before an actual GOD, got blasted, and survived to coninue butchering superhumans, daemons, alien monstrosities, godly avatars, master psychics, etc. for thousand upon thousands of years. He massacres entire super armies, even allies, just to satisfy his thirst for battle. Do you really think Dante’s rescilience can match Kharn’s?
Put it into perspective. Ten THOUSAND years of killing beings that excape the comprehension of Dante. He dominates over Greater Daemons that rule a daemon-world (if you cannot do the math, this is comparable to Satan in our own world), defeating them as he sees fit.
Dante couldn’t hope to scratch this man, much less defeat.
Im thinking Kharn wins a easy win again.
Kharn would PWN Dante. This is a “over in seconds” kind of match.
u all realise dantes u no IMMORTAL how can you kill an immortal guy :heres the answer u cant so considering hes an immortal versing a really strong guy im gonna go for the immortal
Pretty much.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dante wins he fought a god in dmc 4 i think and won he can also move unrealisticly fast he could also use devil trigger to become even more powerfull
and regenarate health
“Dante wins he fought a god in dmc 4 i think and won he can also move unrealisticly fast he could also use devil trigger to become even more powerfull
and regenarate health”
How about reading before posting mindless rabble.
allright lets look at the hardware keep in mind this is standard no devil arms
dante
dual pistols
magic sword
demonform
and a duster for armour
kharne
plasma pistol
gorechild the chain axe made from the teeth of a dragon
his bare hands which are wmd’s all on they’re own
powerarmour
not to mention 1000 years of combat experience and a very bad temper….and i almost forgot im pretty sure he has the blessing of khorne which negates all magic around him so he could pretty much tear out dante’s heart so fast he would’nt know he was dead till kharne crushed his skull so yea i think this match goes to the chosen one of the blood god
Okay, well Dante is invincible and dante can run faster than a bullet, I think that Dante would OWN Kharn.
he could shoot him between the eyes without even looking and while Kharn is moving at incredible speeds
dammit that dante i was hoping you were talking about the dante from the blood angels chapter that wouldv’e been more interesting
heheh… Kharn would not only level dante, but also the ground he stood on. Kharn would be the Victor, no doubt…
They should have at least one fight that Dante could win, instead of these matches where he has to face immortals and gods. It’s really unfair and it makes Dante look like a weakling.
erm.. how do you kill an immortal person? last time i saw Dante his heart was peirced with his own sword, got impaled so much times and walked through and killed his enemy like it was nothing. As the other guy posted Dante has also battled a god. Add some of the spec weapons of dante and the trigger and it will be a match for kharm. as far as i know kharn isnt immortal so.. immortal > mortal
BTW if he is immortal then idk who wins
ohh yeah i forgot to add something.. want a match where kharm would look like a helpless little child? Do Alucard(hellsing) vs Kharm
“erm.. how do you kill an immortal person?”
With a swift decapitation with the soul devouring Gorechild.
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
I’m thinking that Dante might win this. They are actually rather even characters when you balance it all, but I would have to say Dante.
That one guy who listed dantes equipment is giased and pathetic
the real list
Pandora (666 forms)
Rebellion (demonic,unbreakable sword)
DT(devil trigger)
Twin handguns with unlimited ammo
shotgun with ul ammo
both guns ca shoot magic bolts
immortality
lucifer(swords that explode on command)
gilgamesh(turns organic material int unbreakable steel)
yamato(can open rifts in the universe)
lightning speed
superhuman strength
reflexes fast eough to dodge a bullet
AW SCREW IT TO LONG HERE READ THIS
devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Weapons_in_the_Devil_May_Cry_series
That doesn’t matter. Kharn would still Curbstomp.
Dante isn’t a true immortal. He can die. He just cannot die by aging. Being brutally murdered is still a perfectly applicable method of termination against him, and I don’t him winning this unless he busts out the Bangle of Time (Time stopper) right from the get go and does something truely brutal to Kharn.
true A about the immortal thing (i forgot about youre point) but whats stopping him from stopping time, dt’ing and killig the fuck out of kharn
@Space Mrine
Prove it instead of using stupid opinions that do nothing on this site (i leraned this the hard way in a different post)
“@Space Mrine
Prove it instead of using stupid opinions that do nothing on this site (i leraned this the hard way in a different post)”
You have just asked for the biggest ass whooping in your stay at the Factpile resort.
“Rebellion (demonic,unbreakable sword)”
Rebellion, Please meet Gorechild, A weapon that was used by Angron, Primarch of the World eaters, Passed down to Kharn after he ascended into Deamon-hood. It is unbreakable, being made out of adamantium. The strongest metal in the sci-fi multiverse. It is a Deamonic chain-axe that craves for blood. It can split a dreadnought in half by even the most unskilled warrior in the universe. In the hands of Kharn (Who is one of, if not the best hand-to-hand combatants in the 40k universe.) it can deliver death with even the slightest amount of effort behind it. As soon as Gorechild nicks something with a soul it will drain the soul, feeding the deamon trapped inside the axe. Bye rebellion.
The Devil trigger. It allows the user to unlease thier demonic side. Too bad, it would be regarded as sorcery and Kharns blessing would simply cast aside the magic.
Those hand guns with “Unlimited ammo”? Well, I don’t know about you, but does being hit by .75 calibre rocket propelled explosive rounds that explode while inside of you even compare to those BB guns? Hell, Kharn has taken pretty much everything the Imperium of man can throw at him. The God Emperor blasting half his head of pre-heresy before he even had his blessing’s and such, and still went on to kill ten foot tall goliaths. Baneblades and the likes.
Kharn dodges bullet’s at point blank range from an enhanced khornate beserker after his whole sqaud of beserkers (Which are lethal warriors pretty much designed for CQC.) And kills them all.
The shotgun should pose very little problem. For one, Shotguns shoot pellets or slugs. Neither would come close to penertrationg Kharns Deamonicly enhanced power armour. Which can take 20 focussed beams of las-cannons that are designed to blow the heaviest of vehicles apart and it only left a hole in the front part of the chest leaving the other three layers of the armour set undamaged.
Magic bullets, again, Kharns blessing would keep him safe from the magical attributes of the bullets. And the now normal bullets would ping harmlessly from the fourteen foot monster. And by this time he would be getting angrier than ever before.
Lucifer is the same story. They are now just normal blades. Any magic spell Dante might have, time stopping included would not work.
Kharn is no stanger to Superhuman strength or near instant reflexes. He is also over 9000 (10200-ish) years old in a universe that is in constant war. His armour already auguments his inhuman strength, since he was second in the line from the Emperors gene-seed (The primarchs first) He is much purer than most other space marines. His genetic perfection combined with gifts from the god of murder, bloodsheed and war (Which is the strongest god of the Chaos patheneon) not only allows him to take on eight Bloodthirsters (The near epitomy of close combat deamons. Which have the amount of power to fight the balrog one-on-one.) by himself and slaughter them all.
Without further ass whooping. Kharn the betrayer for the Factpile award.
“is unbreakable, being made out of adamantium”
LIES
“Too bad, it would be regarded as sorcery and Kharns blessing would simply cast aside the magic.”
it has never been shown acting on magic that isnt directly targeted at kharn
while i think kharn would win with only minor difficulty…..please use facts
Cyborg, Adamantium is unbreakable. Unless you are Hulk or are magneto.
For debate purposes, Kharn’s blessing is an area effect. If someone outside the nullification radius picks up a magical rock and throws it at him, after it gets close enough, said rock would lose magical properties but still retains it’s trajectory.
Space Marine, you know better than that.
“it has never been shown acting on magic that isnt directly targeted at kharn”
Close, it does have a small area effect, stopping any enhancement spells within Kharns area of effect. However it doesn’t work on magical weapons.
I repeat, DOES NOT WORK ON MAGICAL WEAPONS
Pure magic/psychicness, sure, absolutely, and even spells if they’re cast while the caster is near Kharn fizzle out, but magically infused weapons are unaffected. utterly.
Warhammer 40K Adamantium and Marvel Adamantium are two seperate things.
Eight Bloodthirsters… Really?
I hope this is an event I’ve missed rather than heavy hyperbole, but what makes you think that? Archaon was able to take on one, Abaddon has never tried…Even Sanguinus struggled with one (albeit one of the most powerful) so Kharn taking on eight… eh.
“Cyborg, Adamantium is unbreakable. Unless you are Hulk or are magneto.”
really?..you really think that?….ugh
“Close, it does have a small area effect”
i found that out about 10 seconds after posting my comment
“I repeat, DOES NOT WORK ON MAGICAL WEAPONS”
We need specifications on the magic weapons. The only magical weapons that should be in use against Kharn are ones that “Channel” Magic through the said weapon, magical properties that surround or that are willed. For example lucifers explosions are willed by Dante. Dante must use magic to will the explosion to occur and since that magic is not channeled it should not be used.
And Cyber, it is just easier for 40k adamatium=/=Marvel adamantium for debates.
Crap…
Sorry for this double but I think Kharn killed Angrons 8 bloodthirster bodyguard to get his enraged primarch’s undivided attention.
And where the hell was my SUDDENLY SPACE MARINE Party?
“And Cyber, it is just easier for 40k adamatium=/=Marvel adamantium for debates.”
easier but not correct considering marvels is considerably stronger..
and CYBER???GRAWJHVKDBHJASVUSKVBDGK*EXPLODE*
spess mehren is back!permantly?
I am a SPESS MAHREN, But I have only come back after seeing how bad it got here…My prophecy was correct…Told U GUISE that change was bad…The format at least.
“My prophecy was correct…Told U GUISE that change was bad…The format at least.”
Hey, you know there is this *really* cool invention. Its called an ‘opinion’. I know it might be shocking to you for now, but not everyone’s ‘opinions’ are the same.
Kahrns magic stop effect wouldn’t stop DT as it targets Dante, and not Kahrn first of all. Secondly Time stop doesn’t target Kahrn alone it targets everything, and therefore global. If you use time stop correctly with three devil hearts that is about three minutes and twenty seconds, of a brutal beating from Dante. The million stab in which dante does one million stabs in three seconds??? Hmmm…. That would be areound two hundred million stabs. All that would be left would be the shit that kahrn had from being scared, and an itty bitty pile of skin.
if that even scratches his armor.
Okay then if you want to say that how about pandora? Missile after missile for three minutes and twenty seconds?
Do I sense Dante vs Alucard all over again? Oh I think I do…let’s just hope the word seal doesn’t come up….
Dude chaos space marine armour has been known to take battle cannon shots. The battle cannon’s little brother the autocannon unleashes sixty kilotonnes of kinetic energy in one shot (Emperor’s Mercy) and Kharn may or may not have armour that offers even more protection. Does anyone know whether he has daemonic armour in the 4th edition codex?
@blood
why in the hell would i mention seal? it only works on demons. Dante is faster and 3 minutes of that big of a pounding will kill.
@pooper
Don’t blame me, blame the fool from the thread I mentioned.
which thread? Dante vs alucard?
@pooper
yes, that thread…
that thread was ridiculous. Alucard had it from the start, i don’t even know why they argued. One question. Would Kharns armor be able to handle Hellfire???
“And Cyber, it is just easier for 40k adamatium=/=Marvel adamantium for debates.”
load of bull shit.
we are arent the kharn experts. but i can tell you a few things.
Kharn and all other space marines or the like are a shit ton storner then MC, their armor eats bolter rounds like candy…basically semi automatic AP grenade launchers designed to destroy tanks. and they have ridicualous targeting systems like seeing through stones and seeing the blood flow thru your viens..etc.
kharns axe will also steal your soul if it makes contact.
Thank you Darkbladex96
you reminded me of Gorechild…
here are some links that might help you Pooper…
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_Armour
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kh%C3%A2rn_the_Betrayer#Weapons_and_Abilities
“kharns axe will also steal your soul if it makes contact.”
Good luck on hitting dante with it.
“their armor eats bolter rounds like candy…basically semi automatic AP grenade launchers designed to destroy tanks.”
How about hellfire, or lasers?
@Pooper
the links, check the links
@blood
which mark of armor is kharns?
@blood
i posted that up before the page had been refreshed.
Please take into consideration that Kharn has surived re-entry…… and a Baneblade shot before.
And the fact he’s considered the second best hand-to-hand combat specialist in the entirety of WH 40k.
Ugh i hate myself for doing a double post let alone a triple post, but i gotta ask a question. Has the power armor been able to sustain it’s user on something as hot as lets say…. the sun?
@Pooper
refer to post #17. that pretty much sums it up for me…
Dante got blasted by mundus as well. another god. he’s still alright. And a “blast” doesn’t really describe anything to me. a blast of what? Bubble gum? Crap? A “blast” could be anything. Specify if you want me to accept defeat.
@Pooper
try crap…
seriously, though, I am not the best person to answer your question seeing as how my knowledge on Kharn and WH40k is limited…
as i said i dont know anything really about kharn…just general stuff. ive submitted multiple fights with him involved but they might have been ignored because kharn couldve lost. basically when you see his name expect everyone to immediately wank his dick.
okay haha. I’ll look into it. But, as of right now i have to get off so goodbye.
hmmm…so many things wrong with the whole…”time stops…dante kills Kharn…omgwtfpwned” kinda stuff. Goes against physics and I really don’t think any of you would listen to why dying while time has been stopped wouldn’t work.
If I have to make a vote..On the top of my head…its a total curb stomp for Kharn…but after I researched Dante a little bit..I find its a little bit more…even than I thought. Kharn still takes this..but its not as bloody. Dante can be one hell of a fighter…its a pity his ability is wasted on people who won’t die by his hands…Like Kharn and Alucard.
IPS is Dante’s time stop magical in nature? If so there goes that plan. If it isn’t then i still don’t see how any of Dante’s weapons will even pierce Kharn’s chaos infused armor.
@Prime
Unless he can work really really fucking fast and take off his damn helmet and put a nice hole between the eyes…Dante loses this match 
I do believe it is. However, even if by some freak accident…it did work on Kharn..his weapons would pierce his armor.
Look at post 61, and click the second one. it says immune to psychic not magic.
Psychic pretty much equals magic in WH40k. It shows all abilities really. In WH40k Psykers can rip beings in half, conjure fire, lightning, plagues, read minds, teleport, etc etc etc.
That doesn’t necaserrily meant magic. Yeah i know i spelled that way wrong. i can never remember how to spell it. But, that may mean magic in warhammer 40k universe but not in DMC universe if you are going to play that way. Since stage isn’t specified, it’s neutral meaning he is to psychic, and it isn’t psychic. Even if that didn’t work dante still has a time slow quicksilver style. that isn’t magic it is demonic energy.
“Do I sense Dante vs Alucard all over again? Oh I think I do…let’s just hope the word seal doesn’t come up….”
Oh God no! The only thing that could make this like that is if one of those Dante zealots like HMC came along.
Btw, judging by the comments here, this Kharn character wins. Dante’s cooler though IMO.
I looked into it, and to completely kill dante you are going to have to do so four times, do to his regen orbs, he has three, and not to mention about fifty full regen. You have to kill him four times even though he is harder to kill than most people. He has weapons that can penetrate his armor. Hellfire would get through, so he would use ifrit. And then enought lasers with time stop from the nightmare beta would do it as well.
“Hellfire would get through, so he would use ifrit. And then enought lasers with time stop from the nightmare beta would do it as well.”
Lasguns basically scratch the paint on power armour. Why would Dante’s be any differant? Hellsfire is stated to be hotter than a volcano. If its refefring to magma then its hotter than 13,000 C as a maximum as thats the highest temperature listed on wikipedia and my only source.Plasma bolts which are capable of actually melting through power armour are said to detonate with the power of a small sun. Now the phtosphere of the sun according to wikipedia is between 4500 to 6000 calvins. Converting the smallest given amount to celcius gives the plasma bolt the heat of 4227 C. Now I dont know whether a small sun would be differant or if the bolt would be weaker or more powerful since it says “detonates with the power of a small sun”
So in your conclusion hellfire would in fact work?
Ah my bad added an extra zero. So normal magma’s actual temperature is 1300 C according to wikipedia. Not enough to get through the armour.
But think of it this way. three minutes and twenty seconds of it would still work as some of the heat would hit the armor, and remain as dante kept firing it. And, it says hotter than a volcano, so it would be hotter than 1300 C. But, that could depend on a lot of things as well. It could only be a little hotter, or a lot hotter. Still, i think dante could at least manage to get through it with three minutes, and twenty seconds worth of a beating on it.
DANTE IS NOT IMMROTAL IN THE SENSE THAT HE CANT BE KILLED
Does he even still have Ifrit in any of the other games? If not then its not included in his standard equipment.
“DANTE IS NOT IMMROTAL IN THE SENSE THAT HE CANT BE KILLED”
i hope you weren’t refering to me as i have never said he was immortal, i said he has the three golden bring be back to life orbs. And, yes dante does have the weapons still, he just does not bring them to the next mission because he chooses not to. His arsenel could be hunormous if he brought every weapon. So all in all yes he still has the devil arm ifrit.
Nah…..it was to whoever keeps saying that he cant die.
yeah i hate people that say that. He can die, he is a pain in the ass to kill, but he can die.
” That doesn’t necaserrily meant magic. ”
- Yes it does. When the enemy SM psykers are called ” Sorcerers.” Dante loses.
” that isn’t magic it is demonic energy. ”
-Also ineffective. Any force of energy or magic that trys to effect Kharn is repulsed. Thanks to his armor and the patronage/blessing of his god.
Give me a link stating that about energy. I already know about “psychic” which isn’t considered magic in this neutral area, seeing as how it isn’t 40k universe, it means psychic powers not magic straight up. Give me a link stating that his blessing will deflect all ENERGY.
And, Devil Triggers would still work, seeing as how they don’t effect Kharn, and so would quick silver. As Darkblade said as soon as Kharns name is mentioned people are gonna come, and wank his dick. I guess here comes Kenny to join the crowd of dick wankers.
” which isn’t considered magic in this neutral area, seeing as how it isn’t 40k universe, it means psychic powers not magic straight up.”
- Bullshit. A nuetral area means that no undone advatage is given to either side. However, that als means that neither side can be unfairly disadvataged. In this case, rules state that both combatants get their powers and abilities at full outpot. Kharn’s power is to resist magic and anything related to magic. Magic is magic.
” Quicksilver ”
- Where is the part that says it only demonic energy, and the part that says that demonic energy is not a form of magic?
” I guess here comes Kenny to join the crowd of dick wankers. ”
- I’m going to have fun with you while you’re on this site. Lots of fun indeed.
- I’m going to have fun with you while you’re on this site. Lots of fun indeed.
you are going to wank my dick too? That’s disgusting.
Quicksilver isn’t magic at all, it’s a style of dante’s that speeds him up therefore not targeting Kharn, but targeting himself. Well i consider energy to be the movement of particles, or the particles staying in one position, demonic energy is the same thing, but the paricles instead of moving or staying put, are releasing evil energy which in that case is only movement, but in a different manner, it’s just like saying how is kinetic or potential energy not magic?
And, look at it this way it is considered psychic in 40k but demonic energy, and some things maybe magic in DMC. psychic is a completely different thing than magic. And, if you are going to sit around and follow me to every thread, and argue with me, go for it. I have plenty of people who got my back.
“Well i consider…”
…and this is where you are going wrong. what you consider demonic energy to be and what it is arent the same thing.
logically speaking “energy” is a state possesed by a given thing that can result in change of a thing spatially, temporally or existentially. “magic” is a catch all term for supernatural energies. within wh40k “psyker” is one of several terms for those who can create these supernatural effects. other equally popular ones are witch or sorcerer. the fact that these terms are homonyms means effectively means that the names for what they do are too.
dante’s demonic energy is a supernatural energy that he uses to change the state of a given thing, which means in effect it is synonymous with magic, which means it is synonymous with sorcery which is in turn synonymous with “psyker energies”.
ergo kharn is immune to magic and dante uses magic.
not all the magic targets kharn. quicksilver being an example it speeds dante up, and he could do this for three minutes, and twenty seconds instead which in turns makes everything look like it is moving slowly from dante’s perspective. While this is going on dante could get several good hits in that would infact damage his armor.
With what? Hellfire would fall under supernatural energy would it not?
oh im not saying that all magic does. it doesnt even contradict my point, because kharn would be immune to magic not aimed at him by the simply virtue of it being aimed somewhere else
whether quicksilver would make kharn seem slow compared to dante is another thing entirely. kharn is superhumanly fast, and is only made faster by the favour of khorne etc…
kharn would get relatively slower, but whether (relatively speaking) he would get slow enough for it to make the slightest difference is another thing entirely.
and there still no indication that dante could break kharns armour if he hand 10,000 years before kharn fought back to try…
Do you know how strong dante is strength wise? With a giant sword getting pounded on for THAT long? Plus when near death desperation trigger, and fill everything back up? He could do it again, and again. Eventually it would get somewhere.
” While this is going on dante could get several good hits in that would infact damage his armor. ”
- Based on what? This is the same being that has survived ten thousand years in Wh 40k…… and never been close to death since his ressurection. Not to mention that Kharn, a pwerful space marine, view space marines (who like to watch Humans walk around very slowly due to a SM’s speed) as if they were moving in slow motion.
How much faster is Dante and give me a reason why his ptiful weapons will even dent a set of power armor that has stood up to Baneblades, re-entry, and even Blood Thirsters.
“cause kharn would be immune to magic not aimed at him by the simply virtue of it being aimed somewhere else ”
How in the hell exactly does he manipulate the flow of magic?