Published on January 23, 2009, by admin - Posted in MC vs 538
I haven’t had a chance to play Mass Effect yet, so I’ll simply post this fight and let the comments dictate the winner…
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Thanks for posting this fight admin. I think this would be a pretty evenly matched fight, but in the end I think Master Chief would win as Commander Shepard usually fights leading a squad of powerful allies and he wouldn’t get those guys here, although I still think he would be a tough fight for Master Chief.
Is there a canon Commander Shepard, or are we using any possible Shepard from the games?
Because Biotics make this kind of a walk over for Shepard if he has them. Lift followed by throw, followed by a short burst from an assault rifle with the right enhancements (Can’t remember names off the top of my head) and chiefs gone.
If it was the basic Commander Shepard(the one I would consider canon) not a custom character one then he would not have biotics and would then probably lose, but if it was a custom character Commander Shepard then he or she could have biotics and as you said would probably win without a huge amount of difficulty.
Weapons Technology in the Mass Effect universe is far more advanced than that of the UNSC.
shepards tech is moer advanced than mater chief
Shepard suit>>>MC’s suit
Shepard’s suit can have certien upgrades for strength, life, acurrecy, etc and the suit can be swaped for a better suit. while mc’s suit needs a whole new design to become better.
Shepard wepones=\>mc’s wepones
Shepard wepones are all plasma wepondery, and can have up to three upgrade slots for acurracy, damge, or overheating and are quite powerful before these upgrades. MC’s rocket luncher, laser, sniper, and nades would be his only chance of victory.
Shepard vechiles<<<Mc’s vechiles
Ah, here is MC ace in the hole. in almost ever shape way and form, mc’s vechiles are more powerfull and faster in space combat, and a scorpien would kick the he11 out of the shepards tank thing (I think tanko or something like that?) hecl, the ghost, hornet, banshe, or wraith would probley beat it as well, for shepards tank thing is, in all fairness, weak. I may be wrong saying a ghost or hornet could beat it, but a scorpien would defiently. while being slightly slower, it can can 2-3 spartien lasers, and can one-hit kill anything but other tanks.
In most confied, house type battles. Shepards would win, but out in the open, Shepard is doomed
For once can we give MC the scarab gun in one of the battles were he doesn’t stand a chance and also chief can run 65 mph according to the halo universe and lift three times own body weight with out the suit i mean he can flip a tank for crying out loud come on people?!
i think that its pretty even i think that shepards advantage isnt huge but its big enough considering the technology that they both have im gonna go with mass effect…
What if MC had overshields i bet he would win, Or even without overshields if he had the right weapon he would win
not really hellatus,he still has inferior technology.
Hmm he could make cortana shut shepard suit down (if it is possible)
i can see many ways MC would win with H3 tech but also he could take mass effect tech seeing as he has hands. Yay for MC
The chief wins. He has hands. He can rip shepards head right off if he can flip a scorpion tank and then climb aboard a scarab and destroy it WITHOUT ANY HELP. maybe marines to keep it distracted and get killed but all he needs is a distraction or at least enemies who dont know hes coming.
The masterchief Dies!!! He can be killed from a short burst from an RPG!!!
Halo tech is at a lower stage that that of Mass effect, MC having hands makes no difference when he’s 50 feet up or being sucked into a black hole, and as someones pointed out elsewhere, Cortana needs to be connected to something to hack into it.
How, how does MC win this?
MC does have one HUGE advantage.
He can jump.I’ve played completely through mass effect and saw Shepard jump once or twice.And also Shepard may have gone against a large amount(and I mean LARGE amount)of aliens,so has the dude in green.In the end I think they would get to a tie, take a bus home and later maybe go have some coffee.
IDK abt commander shephard but mc has super enhanced strength speed and stamina. he has more experience with weapons and battles. the game made mc alot weaker just so it would be playable. read the books
mc can run at speeds faster than 100 kmph and he can carry 3 tons (if im not mistaken) his armour is 1 ton
mc has energy shields does shepard have asny I DONT THINK SO!
ok first mc cant run faster then 100 km he maxes at about 60
shepard does have shields that regenerate too its the little white bars next to your health in the game
and sheperd would have all of his abilities coz if u get 150 kills with a technique it gets unlock on all classes
and jumping isnt really that much of an advantage all shepard needs to do then is shoot in the air
and all that needs to happen is sheperd uses singularity which makes mc unable to moves and draws him to a point of shepards choosing and shepard blows the crap out of him with a shotgun
mc loses… i hate it when fanboys take mcs abilities out of proportion sure hes cool but give it a rest
abtually he can run speeds exceeding 100 kmph in the book he runs at 60 kmph then later on he can run100kmph without his armour but with his armour abt 60 kmph cuz his armour is a ton
y wudnt he have his armor that just stupid hes got basically no chance as it is y would he take off the only thing that could save him
he wouldnt but still he is fast and alot stronger than with the armour. He can beat shepard considering his incredible speed strength luck skill and exp
by theway, shepared does have energy shields, in fact, shepared’s shields are like having a 4x overshield that recharges decentaly fast, and has 10x more health then master chief.
ok speed and luck would come into it but im not sure why everyone seems to think lucks on mcs side. but i dont think strength would come into it at all they would be shooting at eachother… but even with high speed shepard has multiple biotic powers to combat against that so i just dont see how mc can win
Luck is on master chiefs side for two reasons: 1. The books show him being luckey ( he calls which way a coin will land) 2. They say so in the game (“you had something they didn’t, luck”) but it still wouldn’t matter in the end, luck can only get you so far.
that doesnt mean its always on his side tho.and ive called how a coin lands tonnes of times
“that doesnt mean its always on his side tho.and ive called how a coin lands tonnes of times”
Read Fall of Reach. It IS canon, it says “prequel to the xbox game” on it for god’s sake. It clearly states that he is inexplicably lucky to the point that Cortana can feel it from looking at him. When Doctor Halsey repeatedly flips a coin, a young John can predict how it will fall with no errors. He has a level of luck that goes beyond coincidence.
ok fair enough.. but luck can only get you so far when your ar fighting someone that outmatches you in every way except for running speed
That’s my point, mc is luckly and skillful, but to an extent.
But immense combat skill mixed with luck that defies reality. That’s a deadly combination.
I’ve read up.All of the sources I’ve found say that the canon Shepard did NOT have biotics.There’s one less advantage but(although I hate to say it)Shepard is still a little bit more likely to win but not certain to win.
The shields in mass effect, can be bypassed by something moving slow enough.
At long range i give it to Shepard, Close MC, Medium Shepard. But hey, I dont know much about Mass effect technology, nor do i do well in science so…
Shepard is my guess.
that is tru they can be bypassed by things that move slowly. but when they are fighting i doubt either of them would move slow…. but good point
I would think do to shepards exerience he can beat MC in this situation.
Winner: Commander Shepard
mc also has alot of experience u know
at long range shepard wins due to far superior guns close range master chief becuase he is phisically inhanced if nethier of them had armor or weapons then the chief would easily punch shepards head off or if the chief had a sparten laser shepard would get shot in half if they both had the same armor and weapons chief would win due to luck and skill chief is my favorite to but if it was up to tech(long range or mid range) he’s dead
ok chances are that neither will use close combat techniques because they…well have guns. and a shot blast from close will do far more damage than a punch or kick shepards guns are far more advanced which gives him an advantage. his suit has regenerating shields as well so that puts the suits at about equal.. the only things that i can put in cheifs favor are movement speed and strength. oh and i dont think shepard can run out of ammo his/her guns just overheat after prolonged usage
so i think that after a decent gun battle superior equipment will prevail
well considering there hasnt been any posts here in a while i think shepard has won
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Sheaperds guns don’t fire plasma. they fire moleculer slivers of metal by using magnectic accelleration. think of them as tiny mac guns. But MC has the better armour.
the armour on the 2 are basically the same but a big advantage with shepards is the shielding, it can have 4 shields operating while chiefs can only have one
its like mc versing himself with better technology and some magic(depending on the shepard)
Shepard would, despite Master Chiefs extreamly unrealistic abilities.. Shepard would still come out on top.. If he had biotic powers, one simple lift and MC would be floating round in mid air before he knew what hit em. and we all know the strangth of decent shotgun in mass effect.. Poor green bastered wouldnt stand a chance..
In terms of who is a better character ?? not who would win in a fight.. I’d have to go with Shepard again. As much as i love chief’s character, he shows NO emotion.. like none? they try to hard to pull off the hole ‘ dirty harry ‘ image.
Shepard wins hands down, you can make him an absolute bad ass if you want or a noble hero, both work sooo wellllllll..
Shepard, absolutely no contest.
the tecnology is MUCH MUCH more advanced in mass effect. the armour is better, the guns are better and the fighters are better. Shepard easily win plus he also has biotics!
mc+commander shepard = death to covanent+geth
mc sniper has 10x zoom shepard has 8x
“mc sniper has 10x zoom shepard has 8x”\
whats the use if it can get through the shields
if it cant*
2 words M-920 Cain. The instant pwner.
Mass Effect technology is FAR beyond halo tech. Despite what people may think, chief would be less than a mercenary in mass effect due to weak tech.
Speed and luck don’t matter. One chief would be dead before he could accelerate to a fast enough speed to dodge shepards bullets. Two if luck mattered then chief could beat anyone theoretically.
Oh and uh.. Shepard is James T Kirk with a mini nuke launcher and black hole projector launcher… EAT THAT MC FANS!!
Shepard’s weapons have auto-aim at close range so even if the chief can run fast enough, when he gets up close all Shepard has to do his squeeze the trigger and the bullets will lock on to chief and eventually kill him.
okay since i know nothing about general sheperd ill lust post a fight…..
Master Chief VS Rosarch
Oh and uh.. Shepard is James T Kirk with a mini nuke launcher and black hole projector launcher… EAT THAT MC FANS!!
Quoted for be very true.
chiefs shields can take plasma pretty well why not bullets that move at the speed of light. also chiefs shields are more advanced since that can deflect projectiles and enery weapons.
Is chief restricted to unsc weapons because if he’s aloud covenant weapons that would be a big advantage
He’s only allowed standard weapons.(UNSC) But if you want an advantage, how bout the splazer?
Hey Admin, I just realized you said “yes” instead of “yet”
Just wanted you to know.
Splazer versus Collector laser (which is a laser type weapon, and is stopped by kinetic shields.. for some reason. Probably Element Zero)
Plus Shepard has a good share of heavy weapons now. The firestorm “a sticky spray that burns at approximately 1,600 degrees Celsius”, the Avalanche that’d likely freeze MC to pieces and the Cain, which is essentially a portable nuke launcher.
@MEGADOOMER – Thanks, edit made.
Jwlynas, the Collector Particle Beam Rifle is focused and directed radiation. It is not a laser. That is why Kinetic Barries can affect them. Lasers, real ones not sci-fi fictional ones that are completely differant in functionality, bypass Kinetic Barriers entirely.
Wouldn’t the Spartan laser take shepard out quick. And someone wants to argue that it would be hard aiming master chiefs a super soldier. Also it take about as long as the nuke launcher to fire.
“Wouldn’t the Spartan laser take shepard out quick. And someone wants to argue that it would be hard aiming master chiefs a super soldier. Also it take about as long as the nuke launcher to fire.”
But then Shepard doesn’t need to worry about a long aiming time with his other guns, Plus, as of Mass Effect 2, Biotics/tech abilities are his to command, seriously screwing over the chief
“Jwlynas, the Collector Particle Beam Rifle is focused and directed radiation. It is not a laser.”
Ah, fair enough. Surely that’d still mess up M’s day something fierce though?
omg im so sure i closed this ages ago.
shielding=shephard,(he can have up to 4 times shielding of mass effect quality)
weapons=shephard(infinite ammo *not literally* customisable rounds and far better range)
skill=shephards(thanks to all the genetic engineering stuff mass effect is so fond of)
computer systems=shephard (auto targeting whoops cortanas arse when it comes to a gun fight)
everything in this fight says shephard….you could give mc a covenant ship and shephard would still be able to take it down…..(stasis) and i havent even played me2 yet. god knows what kind of upgrades he has recieved
well since ME2 commander shepard has become a cybernetic super soldier.
he has cybernetic ocular implants, bone, skin, and muscle weave, all of his implants secrete med-gel allowing for rapid regeneration of flesh and bone. his skin weaves make his flesh resistant to gunfire, his muscle weave make him physically stronger about the strength of a krogan(commander shepard was able to quickly recover and lift multiple metal bulkheads with little physical strain), and his bone weave makes him highly resistant to blunt trauma.
Canon shepard is a soldier class, so he wont have any biotic powers in this match.
but thats fine because soldier is more then enough to drop MC.
1. MC’s shields wont last long against mass effect weaponry. plus soldiers can use all ammo types, which means disrutor ammo is gonna eat chief alive. (basecally emp bullets).
2. Shepards arsenal is much larger, he’s gonna bring five weapons to the fight. vindicator assualt rifle, eviserator shotgun, widow maker anti-material sniper rifle, carnifex handcannon, one of many heavy weapons, maybe the M-622 avalanche.
a. vindicator assualt rifle- 5 round burst weapon effective vs shields, armor, and barriers. trigger can be pulsed. very deadly at an range.
b. eviserator shotgun-cereburus made assualt shotgun, rapid fire, power rivaling that of the claymore shotgun(one shot one kill weapon). effective vs barriers. low ammo.
c. widow maker anti-material sniper rifle-incapable of being wielded by a human(would shatter their arms). made to plow through shielding and armor to destroy light tanks and other vehicles.
d. carnifex handcannon-ME’s magnum, lighly accurate, weak against shields, strong against armor.
e. M-622 alavanche- a cyroblast, mainly a support defense weapon, can snap freeze enemies for 15-20 seconds. makes a cloud of Bose-Einstein condensate(a mass of super-cooled subatomic particles).
this is a ROFLstomp in the favor of shepard.
Shepard for the FP award.
Yeah, Shepard with distruptor ammo and adrenaline rush. Pretty much takes mjolnir out in the first few seconds.
need more people to comment on this…need someone to defend MC or shepard cant get an FP award.
Shepard has one shield in mass effect 2. biotic powers don’t penetrate shields. Also how powerful is a bolt of plasma from a plasma rifle.
“biotic powers don’t penetrate shields”
Kinetic shields which utilize the same forces working against them. Halo shields utilize energy-state repulsive barriers.
“Also how powerful is a bolt of plasma from a plasma rifle.”
Pretty powerful, but it still has mass that can be repelled.
Hmm, as a Soildier class Shepard is canon then as of ME2 he can equip any weapon with a form of ammo like cryo, incendiary, disruptor or warp. He can also use limited biotic and tech powers, have insane reflexes that literally make him be able to react almost twice as fast as the enemies, which include mechs, while being able to regen health and shields in an insanely fast time.
And last but not least there’s the Cain. This works by accelerating a 25g mass to a velocity of 5km/s. This slug is made of a compound explosive in a matrix that de-coheres explosively on impact multiplying the destructive power of the weapon. This weapon does 10000 points worth of damage with a large area of effect, ie if Shepard manages to fire this at MC then MC is pretty much dead. And just in case he misses Shepard can carry enough ammo to take another shot.
which can take the same amount of fire as the mass effect 1 multiple bar shield, with faster recharge rates, not to mention the entire universe of ME went into a weapons overhaul everyone switched to thermal clips to increase weapon effectiveness.
the cain has tracking ability the further he is from chief when he fires it the more accurate itll be. but i wouldn use something like that against MC, the particle beam would work well, or the avalanche, maybe the rocket launcher.
@ Dark, why limit yourself, if you have a weapon of immense power why not use it? I carried it around ingame after I researched it simply because it’s nice knowing you have that power to fall back on if it gets a bit tough. For everything else you have the handcannon, a shotgun, the Avenger (yes I know the burst one does more damage but I hate burst weapons in games) or the Widow.
Nice to see you up and at ‘em again.
the cain was to impractical, 5 sec charge 2 shots just wasnt my style. main i believe that MC can avoid the cain, it makes a huge red light while charging and the slug is so massive that it tracks poorly, MC speed and reflexes should allow him to dodge it easily at the range nessecary for it to be effective. something with more ammo and better fire rate would be better.
Cheers matey, you too.
Dodge something moving at 5 km/s? Don’t be freaking ridiculous, there’s no way MC could dodge that, and it’s AoE is huge, they had to make it non friendly fire in the game mechanics simply because otherwise there wouldn’t be a single point in the game where you could fire it and survive the blast radius is so large.
holy shit…….i have missed out on so much in me2….stupid exclusives
Do you think MC should get some of the powers like a jet pack from halo reach. They are part of the halo universe, but if he can’t get them its no big deal.
I really need to know something. How does anyone know what effect mass effect weapons will have on chiefs shields. Some people say it’ll make chief explode. Also shepards shield isn’t as strong as the one in mass effect 1.
“I really need to know something. How does anyone know what effect mass effect weapons will have on chiefs shields. Some people say it’ll make chief explode. Also shepards shield isn’t as strong as the one in mass effect 1.”
because unsc weapons work fine on chiefs shields and thier workhorse gun is crap. Mass effect small arms are extremely advanced and powerful. so theres no doubt that they be hell on chief.
make chief explode, probable not they dont make people explode on mass effect.
the shields are stronger on mass effect 2 but the weapons are a lot more powerful as well to counteract the increase in shield power, and armor.
and MC only gets what he usually carries.
Make a thread of noble six against shepard. How is it that unsc weapons are so strong against chief? Its because of gameplay mechanics. Bullets in halo wouldn’t really do much to chief. He’s covered in titanium armor with a crystal layer under it to make it more powerful. Also chiefs energy shield is based off of jackals shields which make projectiles seem like nothing. If you don’t believe me read fall of reach.
I really have to say something about how people say that mass effect tech is more advanced look at the spartan laser its a laser which no one in mass effect has except for the guardian and mining. The spartan laser is more advanced because it can be held by any normal soldier in halo. Also if shepard can use the collector beam rifle which isn’t his tech then chief should have access to covenant tech which is a lot better. beam rifle to head = dead shepard.
Lone wanderers fat man against shepars cain. Fat man shoots actual nukes, but the aiming is not so good. Shepards takes a while to launch while the lone wanderer can fire many in a short amount of time.
Please make a thread for this. Im begging.
@Darkx-Don’t waste your keystrokes on him cause its obvious from his wording that he’s another retard. renesaG all your questions have already been answered and your arguments have all been defeated. Shepard is superior to the chief in all the way that counts meaning he wins.
Shepard for the FP award.
“Also if shepard can use the collector beam rifle which isn’t his tech then chief should have access to covenant tech which is a lot better.”
shepard would have access to the partilce beam because he picked it up and took it on board the normandy with him and its a selectable weapon every loadout screen. MC doesnt keep the covenant weapons he picks up. if you could prove he did it be a different story.
“How is it that unsc weapons are so strong against chief? Its because of gameplay mechanics. Bullets in halo wouldn’t really do much to chief. He’s covered in titanium armor with a crystal layer under it to make it more powerful. Also chiefs energy shield is based off of jackals shields which make projectiles seem like nothing. If you don’t believe me read fall of reach.”
but human weapons were capable of dropping his shields. and his armor has weak spots. but what im trying to tell u is that ME weapons would all be comparable to extremely high caliber weaponry. chief tanking ME assualt rifle rounds would be like saying he could tank rounds from an AMP. one widow maker shot is all it take to drop cheif, plus chiefs weapons maybe completely useless against the kinetic barriers.
but i have to say something.
go screw your self mid nite marauder you’re obviously are a mass effect fan boy. you can’t say shepard is better than chief in all ways. everything shepards done chiefs done in a bigger scale EX:
shepard blows part of virmire chief blows up halo
shepard kills 6ft krogans chief kills nine foot brutes
shepard destroys a collusus chief destroys a scarab
shepard blows up collector base chief blows up ark and halo again
shepard killed an unfinished reaper chief destroys a covenant carrier in halo 2
All of these things would require skill that shepard doesn’t have and if mid nite marauder wants to point out retards he should start with himself.
shephard for the fp award. fanboys have been fended off at every time
i believe some has forgotten their pill
If anyone would like to help me in this fight i would appreciate it. Also that quoting me that all the mass effect fan babies are doing is annoying.
ill go get you your pill right now cyborg pirate ninja jesus.
“shepard blows part of virmire chief blows up halo”
everytime MC runs destroys a halo ring he starts with a company of UNSC, and multiple vechicles. you make this sound special. all he did was got to the core push some big glowing button and get out. sure he fought some covies but they aint much without they space ships. shepard dropped in virmire with a 3 man team and 1 scout APC and plowed his way thru hundreds of geth(geth process and think at lightspeed the fact that he can kills any is impressive.) then with little back up plowed thru more geth, and tank bred krogan and destroyed the base. under constent fire from weapons that would literally shred MC.
“shepard kills 6ft krogans chief kills nine foot brutes”
oh wow brutes are bigger and a lil stronger, but do they have mass accelerator weapons? how about kinetic barriers? or biotics? do they have redundant organ and nervous systems which allow them to fight even if mortally wounded of brain dead? how about ceramic armor that can tank hypersonic slugs and 2100C of heat?yeah didnt think they had any of that.
brute armor sucks, brute weapons suck, the spiker has less velocity the a M9 berreta.
“shepard destroys a collusus chief destroys a scarab”
im noticing a pattern here everything MC blows up involves destroying a core. because he cant do it with fire power. not impressive. shepard destroys heavily shielded heavily armored geth colossi, with Lightspeed AI, learning software, and self repair funciton. with small arms fire! all deployed regularly, and easily dispatched.
“shepard blows up collector base chief blows up ark and halo again”
after fighting thru waves of collectors and destroying and incomplete reaper. collectors would rape chief collector swarms would rape chief, and there tech was not only more advance then shepards but unfamiliar to humans.
“shepard killed an unfinished reaper chief destroys a covenant carrier in halo 2″
by blowing up the core. since he cant do it with sheer small arms fire power. like shepard does, yep he destroyed that reaper with pistols, assualt rifles, snipers, and shotguns.
“All of these things would require skill that shepard doesn’t have”
lol, did you just say that really? 1 you cant prove that MC is more skilled, maybe more training but not skill. if anything Shepard has more skill seeing as most halo games save for halo wars takes place on similar places…earth halo and a covenant ship. but i know MC has been more places. shepard has proven himself capable of dealing with hundreds upon hundreds of Heavily armored, heavily shielded, more advanced enemies with nothing more then his small arms.
forget Shepard thats overkill. 1 asari commando can kill master chief.
“Also that quoting me that all the mass effect fan babies are doing is annoying.”
well we have to quote you when we are replying to your arguements.
OMG seriously this has ended commander shephard has won
everything things in shephards arsenal is vastly superior to mc
shephard has survived amubushes from troops that are so far out of mc’s league he would crap his pants before being shot to the point he is a puddle.
“forget Shepard thats overkill. 1 asari commando can kill master chief.”
even then its a little overkill…
well if the halo fans think they got some fight let them come and i shall smite thee.
i think it would be better for the commander to just get the award he so rightly(spelling) deserves, i fought off the fanboys in the begining and u and beli just raped everyone else that came later…..mc has had people defend him and they have been neutralised
ADMIN please give shepard the fp award
he needs 1 good character should definitely be in more matches.
whats the point of comparing the two anymore. you can’t get either to fight since they’re only video game characters. the only people who would care about this fight anymore are people who have no lives and can’t get a girl friend. try experincing real life for a change.
oh and the only people here are mass effect fanboys so that tells you something. goodbye for good.
“the only people who would care about this fight anymore are people who have no lives and can’t get a girl friend.”
Thank you for your input, very useful indeed.
I’m sure those of us who are married with children, engaged or happily living the manwhore lifestyle will be greatly effected by your horrid, wounding words. So wounded we’ll go right to the nearest set of committed curves and bury our faces in them.
Thanks for trying and for aiding the God of Irony by taking the time to find this website, read numerous posts and then comment on this website.
Sorry, I just love the way renesaG fails. First off he makes a few pathetic arguments, followed by some badly made comparisons then follows up with an attempted insult.
I second Shepard for the FactPile award.
I’ll third that Nomination.
i also forth that shepard wins
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